Final Fantasy XIII

[QUOTE=HisAirness3]I think with the way the game ended, there should and will be a sequel (XIII-2, 13-2). The producers/creators/directors already said they have interest in it because honestly at the end of the game, they didn't explain enough. They basically crammed it all in. I want a XIII-2......What you guys think?[/QUOTE]


My guess is they follow the new trend of downloadable expansions. Which is fine with me. The story could easily continue from where it left off... maybe add a few maps and an extra plot line... let you use your current characters, and add a couple new ones.

[QUOTE=HisAirness3]I think with the way the game ended, there should and will be a sequel (XIII-2, 13-2). The producers/creators/directors already said they have interest in it because honestly at the end of the game, they didn't explain enough. They basically crammed it all in. I want a XIII-2......What you guys think?[/QUOTE]

Please no. Let's just forget this game ever existed.

Does anyone know a source that gives the exp max for each weapon? I feel as if I am wasting resources upgrading some weapons and accessories (assessories especially as I know weapons level 1 go to 26) beyond their 'star'. Be nice to know what level the accessory goes to and how many exp pts it can handle.

[QUOTE=RapsFan]Does anyone know a source that gives the exp max for each weapon? I feel as if I am wasting resources upgrading some weapons and accessories (assessories especially as I know weapons level 1 go to 26) beyond their 'star'. Be nice to know what level the accessory goes to and how many exp pts it can handle.[/QUOTE]

[url]http://ff-13.info/category/weapons/[/url]

[QUOTE=RapsFan]Does anyone know a source that gives the exp max for each weapon? I feel as if I am wasting resources upgrading some weapons and accessories (assessories especially as I know weapons level 1 go to 26) beyond their 'star'. Be nice to know what level the accessory goes to and how many exp pts it can handle.[/QUOTE]

Vanille's Weapons - [url]http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/2315/vanilleweapons.jpg[/url]
Fang's Weapons - [url]http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/3874/fangweapons.jpg[/url]
Hope's Weapons - [url]http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/6500/hopeweapons.jpg[/url]
Lighting's Weapons - [url]http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/9157/lightningweapons.jpg[/url]
Sazh's Weapons - [url]http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/5500/sazhweapons.jpg[/url]
Snow's Weapons - [url]http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/1648/snowweapons.jpg[/url]

Awesome...thanks guys!

Do you mostly focuse your gil and components to upgrade weapons or do you also focus on accessories?

[QUOTE=RapsFan]Awesome...thanks guys!

Do you mostly focuse your gil and components to upgrade weapons or do you also focus on accessories?[/QUOTE]

Both. Some accessories are a must-have.

Like Auto-Haste. Upgrade the thing that gives you Protect, Shell, Veil and something else when you're almost dead so that it casts all those spells at the start. Then dismantle it and you'll have Sprint Shoes with Auto-Haste. Do that 3 times so you can have this on all your characters.

Then Auto-Bravery for your commando and Auto-Faith for your Ravagers/Medics/Saboteurs.

Collector Catalog is also great (more items after battles). Upgrade this and you'll get a Connoisseur Catalog (more rare items after battles). Great way to get gil quickly.

BTW I'm ****ing pissed. IMO the battle system is by far the best in the series, so when I was done upgrading my characters I thought "OK, now time for some epic battles". But nothing lasted more than 7 minutes. :rant :rant :rant WTF is that ? 7 minutes for the toughest boss in the game ? Are they serious ? :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

^^^ thanks! I haven't come across that accessory yet. I find myself having basically no gil. When I get an item that looks like I don't need, I sell it to get get for upgrades. I had an iteam that was auto-faith, but I wasn't sure how much the faith spell adds to your magic points. Whereas I had an accessory that added 100 MP.....which is better?

Also, I am fining Grand Pulse way way harder then the previous 10 chapters.

So that's where you get the sprint shoes!!!!

Quick questions to those who have gone and finished the game

1. Pearlwing Staff or Belladonna Wand? - Obviously the staff is to deal high damage but the Wand can be pretty useful against CERTAIN bosses. Not that the Wand doesn't have a high magic output too..

2. I gave Sazh Rigels so he can be my ultimate support character. I gave him the auto-bravery, strength+ items. As a ravager, would the spark/fire/strike damage be calculated based on strength or is it based on magic?

3. Same thing with Lightning - I usually pair her up with Fang, and most of the time she spends her time as a ravager. I gave her the Gladius to max up her strength. Would I be better off picking another weapon since she's usually using the element strikes in battle?

[QUOTE=gasolina]So that's where you get the sprint shoes!!!!

Quick questions to those who have gone and finished the game

1. Pearlwing Staff or Belladonna Wand? - Obviously the staff is to deal high damage but the Wand can be pretty useful against CERTAIN bosses. Not that the Wand doesn't have a high magic output too..

2. I gave Sazh Rigels so he can be my ultimate support character. I gave him the auto-bravery, strength+ items. As a ravager, would the spark/fire/strike damage be calculated based on strength or is it based on magic?

3. Same thing with Lightning - I usually pair her up with Fang, and most of the time she spends her time as a ravager. I gave her the Gladius to max up her strength. Would I be better off picking another weapon since she's usually using the element strikes in battle?[/QUOTE]


1. I went with Bella Wand. Debuffing is key.

2. Anything with "strike" in it is based on strength, although resistances on the mob matter. So, thunderstrike (based on strength) will do better against mobs weak against thunder, and worse against mobs with thunder resists. I'm not a fan of Sazh overall. His stats are more balanced like Lightning, and I prefer to have Hope as my buffer/healer/ravager.

3. Lightning is my main ravager as well. I use Lionheart because it provides Quick Stagger. The second most used option is Axis Blade, which provides some ATB recharge.


A couple items I would recommend getting for farming are the Aurora Scarf, which is easy to get; just upgrad a Whistlewind Scarf (bought in store) to star and morph. This starts fights with full ATB guage. The other item is the Sprint shoes. This starts the fight auto-haste. Best way to get this item is to farm Mission 7 (flying lighting style boss near the beginning of Gran Pulse) with a Collectors Catalog on. The boss will drop a Tetradric Crown. Upgrade the Crown to star, then dismantle and you get Hermes Shoes. Upgrade those to star, and morph, and you get the Speed shoes.

Combining these two items on each character also provides a hidden +10% ATB recharge bonus.

[QUOTE=bdreason]1. I went with Bella Wand. Debuffing is key.

2. Anything with "strike" in it is based on strength, although resistances on the mob matter. So, thunderstrike (based on strength) will do better against mobs weak against thunder, and worse against mobs with thunder resists. I'm not a fan of Sazh overall. His stats are more balanced like Lightning, and I prefer to have Hope as my buffer/healer/ravager.

3. Lightning is my main ravager as well. I use Lionheart because it provides Quick Stagger. The second most used option is Axis Blade, which provides some ATB recharge.


A couple items I would recommend getting for farming are the Aurora Scarf, which is easy to get; just upgrad a Whistlewind Scarf (bought in store) to star and morph. This starts fights with full ATB guage. The other item is the Sprint shoes. This starts the fight auto-haste. Best way to get this item is to farm Mission 7 (flying lighting style boss near the beginning of Gran Pulse) with a Collectors Catalog on. The boss will drop a Tetradric Crown. Upgrade the Crown to star, then dismantle and you get Hermes Shoes. Upgrade those to star, and morph, and you get the Speed shoes.

Combining these two items on each character also provides a hidden +10% ATB recharge bonus.[/QUOTE]

How did you afford the Collectors Catalog? It's like 100K gil right? In chapter 11, should I just roam around and do the Ceith missions which will build me up, gets lots of items/gil etc? I don't know if I screwed up along the way wasting gil, but I don't think I bought too many things that wasn't to upgrade weapons.

What was your core 3 person party? Or did you change it all the time? I feel like I have to have a Sentinel, but maybe that's only because I am not strong enough yet? I really like Haste so Sazh, but maybe that is where you are saying to get the Speed shoes instead so Sazh isn't necessary?

Early in Gran Pulse I think I used Vanille / Lightning / Sazh. I liked to heal/debuff/ravage with Vanille, use Lightning as Commando, and Sazh for buffing (haste), and ravaging. If you feel you need a sentinel you could use Snow or Fang instead of Lightning.

Don't buy the Collectors Catalog, you will loot a couple eventually. Try to complete as many of the Cieth mission as you can... at least up to 17. This will get you items + gil + xp + Chocobo (mish 14). I provided a link to a mission guide earlier in the thread.

I wasted plenty of gil early on, don't stress it. I would recommend saving your upgrades for weapons / items you know you'll keep though. I provided a weapons guide earlier in this thread.

My favorite threesome for endgame is Lightning / Fang / Hope. Lightning is my Ravager / Commando / Medic / Debuffer. Fang is my Commando / Debuffer / Sentinel. And Hope is my Buffer / Healer / Ravager.

Wow thanks for the great input.

Another thing, Strength/Magic+ items or Auto-Bravery/Faith or both?

Obviously if I go for both my last slot will be Sprint Shoes. I usually go with either a general's belt or royal armlet in the third slot

Awesome thanks.

That is my problem...figuring out what items I really need. I like a fine balance of playing and also reading up on the game. I checked out the weapon guides you posted, but it talks about stuff like the 'synthesis group' etc.....not going to lie, not a F'ing clue wha that means. :oldlol:

[QUOTE=gasolina]Wow thanks for the great input.

Another thing, Strength/Magic+ items or Auto-Bravery/Faith or both?

Obviously if I go for both my last slot will be Sprint Shoes. I usually go with either a general's belt or royal armlet in the third slot[/QUOTE]


The only auto-buff I use is Haste. The auto-buffs only last 60 seconds, and aren't worth the slot (besides haste).

After the Auroro scarf and Speed shoes, I use resistance gear. +% physical and magical resistence is the way to go IMO. Also, using +HP items (platinum/diamond bangles) is useful for characters with lower HP, especially early on.

[QUOTE=RapsFan]Awesome thanks.

That is my problem...figuring out what items I really need. I like a fine balance of playing and also reading up on the game. I checked out the weapon guides you posted, but it talks about stuff like the 'synthesis group' etc.....not going to lie, not a F'ing clue wha that means. :oldlol:[/QUOTE]


Don't worry about that stuff till later. I beat the game without knowing what that shyt is either.

And a good tip for selling items.

Anything that is +20% resist Slow/imperial/deshell/etc you can sell. Anything that is +20% resist to specific elements (fire/wind/water/etc) you should keep. The elemental resist items are nice to have for certain fights. The ailment resists I've never had to use.

BD, can you let us know what your preferred weapons are. I just picked which one gives the highest stat. Also some recommendation on the 4th crystarium?

Lighting - Lionheart (Quick Stagger)
Fang - Padorean Spear (Debuff)
Vanille - Belladona Wand (Debuff)
Hope - Othsirvani (Siphon Boost aka stagger bonus)
Snow - Umbra (Ward aka AoE damage defense)
Sazh - Antares Deluxes (Chain Bonus Boost)

As far as Crystarium goes, just focus on 2-3 fields at first. Try and get your +ATB guage and Accessory slots first. Skip stat bonuses for Abilities. Don't worry about a 4th field until after endgame, as it costs too much.

If you notice, they place the +ATB and +Accessory in the fields they want that character to be good at. Having multiple healers and ravagers is important. Make sure to have at least 3 really good healers and ravagers. Mine are Lightning, Hope, Vanille (healers) and Lightning, Hope, Sazh, Vanille (ravagers). My only Sentinels are Fang and Snow, as I only really use Sent's for specific boss fights. I choose to instead be more offensive minded (stagger quickly), and like to outheal damage as opposed to tanking damage.

These are just my opinions, remember. If you like a specific character, in a specific role... just go with it. There is no right answer.

[QUOTE=gasolina]3. Same thing with Lightning - I usually pair her up with Fang, and most of the time she spends her time as a ravager. I gave her the Gladius to max up her strength. Would I be better off picking another weapon since she's usually using the element strikes in battle?[/QUOTE]

I wouldn't pick the Gladius. Lighting is the best ravager in the game with her "Early Stagger" weapon. And Ravager is the most important role.

BTW, maybe you guys already know, but I only figured it out at the very end. Once you've staggered an enemy, keep hitting him with ravagers until his stagger percentage is at 999.9% (top right hand corner) and then unleash hell with your commandos. The higher the percentage is, the more damage he takes. It's probably explained somewhere in the game but I missed it :confusedshrug:

Anyway, you should always go with weapons with special abilities. A 200 point difference in stats is really not that big a deal. 95% of the time, what you wanna do is debuff the enemy and stagger them quickly. Two most important things right there. Once you've done that, it's pretty much over.

[QUOTE]BD, can you let us know what your preferred weapons are.[/QUOTE]

I know you didn't ask me but :

Lighting : Early Stagger. (Awesome)
Fang : No Stagger. Not as bad as it sounds, you just can't trigger the staggered status, that's it. Not a big deal. Especially if you're a commando. With this weapon and a few Strength+ items, she's a beast.
Hope : Siphon Boost. But picking the one with the highest magic stat is a good choice too since he's the best medic in the game. And in some battles, you gotta have a medic.
Snow : Improved guard. I only use Snow as a sentinel when it gets too tough. With this weapon and a few damage protections items, he's basically invincible. Then you can do your thing without worrying about anything.
Vanille : Improved Debuffing.


[QUOTE=RapsFan]I had an iteam that was auto-faith, but I wasn't sure how much the faith spell adds to your magic points. Whereas I had an accessory that added 100 MP.....which is better? [/QUOTE]

For regular battles, go with Auto-Faith. It doesn't last long but the battle will be over before it wears off.

For bosses, take Magic +100 or whatever you have instead and use a spray to get Auto-Haste, Bravery, Faith, Protect, Shell etc ... Or bring a synergist with you.

So did I waste gil/time levelling up weapons that you guys didn't list above...or did you just end up with those. The Gladius was Lightning's first sword, so I just worked on getting it better so I could survive. Now it's level 26. Did I make a mistake? Should I sell it or dismantle it once I find or have enough gil to buy the one that becomes the Lionheart? (and same for the others?). I think the only weapon I currently have that you guys have listed is Snow's.


Thanks to both of you guys for your help by the way!

[QUOTE=RapsFan]So did I waste gil/time levelling up weapons that you guys didn't list above..[/QUOTE]

No.

Actually, I leveled up the Gladius too. At first, it makes sense to have Lightning as a commando. But once you get Fang, having her as a commando is redundant.

And if you only have it at level 26, you didn't invest that much gil in it. When you're strong enough, killing those dinosaur things in Gran Pulse can give you 150,000 gil per fight. So it's no big deal.

Besides, it's not that important. You can finish the game even if you don't have the best weapons. But if you want to do all Cieth Stone missions, I'd highly recommend the Lionheart. I'm pretty sure you can't stagger the last boss of the game without it.

[QUOTE]Should I sell it or dismantle it once I find or have enough gil to buy the one that becomes the Lionheart?[/QUOTE]

Don't buy the Lionheart. You find it in a chest in the last chapter of the game.

[QUOTE=RapsFan]I checked out the weapon guides you posted, but it talks about stuff like the 'synthesis group' etc.....not going to lie, not a F'ing clue wha that means. :oldlol:[/QUOTE]

I finished the game and every single Cieth Stone missions, and I don't know what the hell you're talking about :oldlol:

Awesome. Its like there are two real games here....Chapter 1-10 and then 11+ because I find the game a lot different now with the open world, much harder battles etc.

[QUOTE=Mikaiel]

I finished the game and every single Cieth Stone missions, and I don't know what the hell you're talking about :oldlol:[/QUOTE]

Different weapons and items fall into different categories. If you equip certain combinations, you get hidden bonuses.


For example if you equip the Speed Boots and Aurora Scarf, you gain +10% ATB recharge. Combine those with Hope's Siphon Boost weapon, and you gain +15% ATB recharge.

[QUOTE=Mikaiel]Please no. Let's just forget this game ever existed.[/QUOTE]
Well no one is asking you buy their product. But the reality is, you are going to buy it anyways. :oldlol: So I'm guessing you will say Forget Versus, Final Fantasy is terrible now. And then when it comes out, you'll end up buying it?

XIII-2 please.

Thanks guys, I did a lot of retooling last night and found out that my current setup wasn't too far off. I traded the Pearlwing for a Bella wand. And made 5 spring shoes. Who do I fight to get the tiara/crown again?

I'm still in chapter 11 and realized that I don't have access to the 3 other weapons I need to switch. Light's early stagger, Hope's Siphon and Sazh's Antares.

i've never played one of these games before and don't generally like japanese role-playing games. the story and characters were ridiculous, as expected, but it was a nice change of pace.

the battle system was good and fast but there were really maybe 5 fights that were challenging (as in, had to repeat more than twice, and mostly because i didn't have the right paradigm to start) the entire game.

i kept holding off on upgrading weapons because i didn't really understand it, and ended up beating the game with lightnings original sword at level 16 and everyone else with base level weapons.

i don't really see the point in going back and doing all the missions and upgrading when there's really nothing to build towards anymore.

[QUOTE=brooks_thompson]i've never played one of these games before and don't generally like japanese role-playing games. the story and characters were ridiculous, as expected, but it was a nice change of pace.

the battle system was good and fast but there were really maybe 5 fights that were challenging (as in, had to repeat more than twice, and mostly because i didn't have the right paradigm to start) the entire game.

i kept holding off on upgrading weapons because i didn't really understand it, and ended up beating the game with lightnings original sword at level 16 and everyone else with base level weapons.

i don't really see the point in going back and doing all the missions and upgrading when there's really nothing to build towards anymore.[/QUOTE]


Sounds like you haven't fought most of the tough encounters. Beating the game doesn't mean much... most of the tough fights aren't even involved in the quest line.

Without maxed characters you won't be able to beat the hardest mobs in the game. My crew is pretty stacked, and I still get 2 shotted by super-turtles.

I cannot beat the 7th Cie'th mission....any help would be great. It's that flying guy who kills you with lightning and poison etc. I watched a YouTube video on how to beat it and the guy had 3 commandos and just used Ruin over and over. Problem is his guys has like 8000+ HP each and I have like 2700 each. Is there a particular characters eidion that will do mad damage?

Am I just too early to tackle this? What else can I do as I assume mission 8 is harder.

[QUOTE=RapsFan]I cannot beat the 7th Cie'th mission....any help would be great. It's that flying guy who kills you with lightning and poison etc. I watched a YouTube video on how to beat it and the guy had 3 commandos and just used Ruin over and over. Problem is his guys has like 8000+ HP each and I have like 2700 each. Is there a particular characters eidion that will do mad damage?

Am I just too early to tackle this? What else can I do as I assume mission 8 is harder.[/QUOTE]


7 is a tough mish.

Play as Hope, and get BarThunder up on all your characters ASAP. Then just have a Commando and Ravager go to town, while you heal with Hope, and Ravage with Hope when you get a chance. The key is having BarThunder up when he does his AoE lighting attack. You should be able to survive his other attacks.

[QUOTE=bdreason]7 is a tough mish.

Play as Hope, and get BarThunder up on all your characters ASAP. Then just have a Commando and Ravager go to town, while you heal with Hope, and Ravage with Hope when you get a chance. The key is having BarThunder up when he does his AoE lighting attack. You should be able to survive his other attacks.[/QUOTE]

So having HP in the 2000's is fine or am I too weak? I guess that guy on the video could have gone back just to create the help video, because no way 8000+ HP should be common by then right?

Finally beat it. Hope, Sazh and Lightning. Starter Syn/Syn/Medic to get all my buffs, big ones being veil, barthunder and haste, then went medic/com/com. Took a long time and I was healing and using ensu constantly but sazh and lighting finally took it down.

BD, is this mission where you said it was a good place to farm?

[QUOTE=RapsFan]Finally beat it. Hope, Sazh and Lightning. Starter Syn/Syn/Medic to get all my buffs, big ones being veil, barthunder and haste, then went medic/com/com. Took a long time and I was healing and using ensu constantly but sazh and lighting finally took it down.

BD, is this mission where you said it was a good place to farm?[/QUOTE]


This is the mission people farm for the Tetradric Crown, which you eventually turn into the Speed Boots. That's probably what the guy in the video was doing.

Don't worry about it now though. Just make a mental note, and when you get stronger, come back and farm him for the Crown.

[QUOTE=bdreason]This is the mission people farm for the Tetradric Crown, which you eventually turn into the Speed Boots. That's probably what the guy in the video was doing.

Don't worry about it now though. Just make a mental note, and when you get stronger, come back and farm him for the Crown.[/QUOTE]

I beat 8 and have the collector's catalog...is that what I need to get the Tetradric Crown?

Sorry for all the Q's...appreciate the help!

Over time, once you get certain items does it make certain characters useless? Like I use Sazh now basically because of Haste. Will Hope learn Haste making Sazh no longer needed? Or those speed boots? Do the Syn's eventually learn all the same abilities? Same for the Sab's etc?

Related question, will having two catalouges in my party increase my chance of getting a crown? I need 1 more. I already have 5 sprint shoues but dont like equipping / removing items

[QUOTE=RapsFan]I beat 8 and have the collector's catalog...is that what I need to get the Tetradric Crown?

Sorry for all the Q's...appreciate the help!

Over time, once you get certain items does it make certain characters useless? Like I use Sazh now basically because of Haste. Will Hope learn Haste making Sazh no longer needed? Or those speed boots? Do the Syn's eventually learn all the same abilities? Same for the Sab's etc?[/QUOTE]

Yes, the colletors catalog is what will increase the drop rate of the crown.

No character will ever become useless, as some will always do something better than another. Hope/Sazh will always be the bst buffers, Fang/Snow will always be the best tanks, Fang/Vanille will always be the best debuffers, etc.. Yes, eventually Hope learns Haste, so you don't have to use Sazh to buff. I use Hope as my buffer/healer.

The characters don't learn ALL the same abilities, but many abilties do overlap. The main difference I've seen is some characters learn group buffs/debuffs, while some only learn single buff/debuffs.

For example, Vanille is a great debuffer, but she doesn't learn a lot of group debuffs. On the other hand, Fang learns lots of group debuffs... which I why I use her as my go-to debuffer, typically.

[QUOTE=gasolina]Related question, will having two catalouges in my party increase my chance of getting a crown? I need 1 more. I already have 5 sprint shoues but dont like equipping / removing items[/QUOTE]


Nah, you can't stack the same catolog to improve drop rates. However, you can upgrade one of the collectors catalog into a connesiuers (sp) catalog, which increased the drop rate of "rare" items.

When I'm farming I typically carry one of each catalog on each of my 3 active characters;

Survivors Catalog - increases drop rate of Shrouds.
Collectors Catalog - increases drop rate of items.
Connosuiers Catalog - increased drop rate of "rare" items.

I finished the game and didn't get the ending.

Now farming Trapz but still getting a big giant O

Gasolina you should edit your post, because he have people visiting this thread who haven't finished it yet. If you have a question about the ending, shoot me a PM.

Also, I don't farm Trapz. Instead, I chose to farm gil in a spot towards the end. I made about 400k an hour, and bought a Trapz for 2 million. Then you can build up one final weapon (fangs or vanilles), max it out, then dismantle it for 3 traps. Rinse and repeat.

[QUOTE=bdreason]Gasolina you should edit your post, because he have people visiting this thread who haven't finished it yet. If you have a question about the ending, shoot me a PM.

Also, I don't farm Trapz. Instead, I chose to farm gil in a spot towards the end. I made about 400k an hour, and bought a Trapz for 2 million. Then you can build up one final weapon (fangs or vanilles), max it out, then dismantle it for 3 traps. Rinse and repeat.[/QUOTE]
I don't know which is harder, gettin a Trapz or getting 2 million. The way the game whores you up when selling items is just bad. 10k for scarletite? really?

What the best way to earn money? I've killed 3 Adamantoises with 2 different catalogues and I got an aegisol. At that point i hit the ps button to turn it off.