Kobe's Greatest Playoff Series

[QUOTE=TryToBeUnbias]:facepalm once again that absolutely crap to do with what OP was asking[/QUOTE]


U mad cuz Kobe can't be as good as Jordan?

you can judge someone else's character by how they talk about others.

food for thought.

now back to the main topic.

you idiots happy about ruining this thread??? :facepalm
your plan succeeded

The game Kobe scored 81 points, that game alone makes it his best playoff series of all time.

[QUOTE=laronprofit9]you can judge someone else's character by how they talk about others.[/QUOTE]

No you can't. Most of them are trolls my dude.

[QUOTE=Samurai Swoosh]Yes, it is ... clearly. I wouldn't take it over Jordan's, but its right up there with his.[/QUOTE]

Penny Hardaway's post game is a lot more efficient and diversified than kobe's.
when i think about post game, kobe's name has nothing to do there.
think about work etic, kobe's name is on all mind.

so looking at what it has been said on ISH, kobe's post game is as good as MJ's, he is more clutch, has a better mid range but is not able to reach the 47% in any year of his career...

and you won't even understand why you are pathetic

PS : not against you samurai swoosh ;-)

[QUOTE=RUCKER]The game Kobe scored 81 points, that game alone makes it his best playoff series of all time.[/QUOTE]
Yeah y not since Kobe doesn't really have any
Mind boggling performances in the playoffs.

[QUOTE=catch24]No you can't. Most of them are trolls my dude.[/QUOTE]

oh well, lol. was worth a shot.

I don't understand why some people are so insecure about Kobe bein better than MJ lol. This thread had absolutely nothing to do with MJ. It was about Kobe's best playoff series. Get over it

[QUOTE=talamo]I don't understand why some people are so insecure about Kobe bein better than MJ lol. This thread had absolutely nothing to do with MJ. It was about Kobe's best playoff series. Get over it[/QUOTE]


Jordan never had an 80+ pt. game. Jordan has never even come close to what Kobe has done in a game.

[QUOTE=talamo]I don't understand why some people are so insecure about Kobe bein better than MJ lol. This thread had absolutely nothing to do with MJ. It was about Kobe's best playoff series. Get over it[/QUOTE]
Another kobe homer mad cuz Kobe can't be like mike.

[QUOTE=asdf1990]Another kobe homer mad cuz Kobe can't be like mike.[/QUOTE]

Based on your posts, it seems like you're the only one here who is angry.

[QUOTE=indiefan24]Based on your posts, it seems like you're the only one here who is angry.[/QUOTE]
Based on ur posts It looks like u are a Kobe homer mad cuz jordan>Kobe

[QUOTE=asdf1990]Based on ur posts It looks like u are a Kobe homer mad cuz jordan>Kobe[/QUOTE]

Nah man, b/c right now im playing 2K11 as 96' Jordan against the Lakers and I'm kicking Kobe's ass.

[QUOTE=SinJackal]


If you didn't invade every Jordan thread trolling about Kobe, perhaps the reverse wouldn't happen as much.[/QUOTE]

Find 1 post where I talk about Kobe on a Jordan Thread!? Just 1. That's what I thought, you can't.

[QUOTE=G-Funk]Find 1 post where I talk about Kobe on a Jordan Thread!? Just 1. That's what I thought, you can't.[/QUOTE]

Yeah he usually likes to bring the Spurs and/or Ginobili into any thread though

[B][SIZE="4"]Typical Suspects?[/SIZE][/B]


[QUOTE=OnceInADECADE]i am not gonna hate but lebron has had a way better series then kobe sorry. n its to bad 4 the king his squad isnt good as kobe[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=opps]But...but... Kobe chokes in the playoffs :lol[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=KG5MVP]Someone post Jordan's greatest playoff series.

And has anyone noticed that Kobe greatest playoff series have none in the finals? While most of MJ's best series and games are from the finals.[/QUOTE]


[QUOTE=OldSchoolBBall]

Jordan would SHIT ON Kobe's production "today." Drop 25-30 year old Jordan in the '06-'10 NBA and he'd make it his *****. He was a clearly superior player to Kobe freaking Bryant. Get real. Trolls like you are why people hate and can't just appreciate Kobe for the tremendous player he is.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=necya]

now permit myself to laugh when someone says that kobe is a playoffs performer...[/QUOTE]




[QUOTE=Calabis]A higher scoring ceiling that has led to (3) 30 point seasons, compared to Jordans (8(9 if you round off)....yeah I can see what your getting at..:roll:

30 ppg 50%FG career to 25 ppg 46%FG career...yup that ceiling has produced worse overrall numbers and less points than Jordan's time(13 seasons/2 basically missed) with the Bulls

Kobe better 3 ball(slim margin)
Jordan better Mid Range game(slim margin)
Jordan better post game(huge margin)[/QUOTE]


[QUOTE=Big#50]
YOU got it wrong. KOBE is the biggest media hype/fraud. The media needed a Michael Jordan. They shoved Kobe down our throats, but only the morons fell for it. Kobe is not even the best player of his era.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=asdf1990]Jordans best series shits on Kobe's best by a landslide.[/QUOTE]

:oldlol: at the stupidity that this thread became just because some dumbass troll decided to add to his reputation as one of the most idiotic posters on this forum, and ruin a good thread. (Kg5mvp)
Is there ever a thread that pertains to Kobe that won't be ruined by the bitterness and insecurities of these idiots?

Seriously, this thread was made to appreciate the great performances this guy has put up over the years and we have trolls & idiots from both side of the fences, destroying it.

[QUOTE=asdf1990]Probably cuz no1 else has ever gone 6-24 in the most important game of the season. U have no comparisons.[/QUOTE]
Didn't Jordan go 5-19 or something against Sonics ?

[QUOTE=Willkill24]Didn't Jordan go 5-19 or something against Sonics ?[/QUOTE]
NO! NOooooo! Jordan NEVER went 5-19 in the finals! You're a filthy liar!

[QUOTE=tpols]NO! NOooooo! Jordan NEVER went 5-19 in the finals! You're a filthy liar![/QUOTE]
:lol

[QUOTE=Willkill24]Didn't Jordan go 5-19 or something against Sonics ?[/QUOTE]

PWNED.

[QUOTE=Willkill24]Didn't Jordan go 5-19 or something against Sonics ?[/QUOTE]

Jordan has higher fg% nice try.

It amuses me to no end that some people are so adamant about arguing Kobe Bryant's accomplishments. For hours. On an internet message board.

[QUOTE=asdf1990]Jordan has higher fg% nice try.[/QUOTE]
25% vs 26% :roll:

wow this thread went to crap pretty fast cant say i didnt see that coming. In all honesty i think coming in here and bringing jordan up when he has nothing to do with the thread is a NOOB MOVE. Kobe is not jordan and never will be but he seems to be the only player to ever get punished because of it. No matter how you slice or how much you dislike the man there are facets of the game where he is MJ like and may be even better. He hasnt had a breakout finals performance yet but that doesnt diminish what he has done on the way to 5 rings in 7 tries and if that is diminished because he isnt MJ then every other player in history should be judged the same way.

[QUOTE=InspiredLebowski]It amuses me to no end that some people are so adamant about arguing Kobe Bryant's [COLOR="Red"]and Michael Jordan's [/COLOR]accomplishments. For hours. On an internet message board.[/QUOTE]

Fixed.

Jordan stans (Loki/OldSchool/Knoe/etc) are truly the scum of the earth.

[QUOTE=BallPhunk]Fixed.[/QUOTE]

Good Try Buddy.......

Vid from Kobe's 2001 series against the Spurs:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkvpnmAk2xU[/url] (Part 1)

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCdhA41wgms[/url] (Part 2)

[QUOTE=necya]
when i think about post game, kobe's name has nothing to do there.
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Maybe you should watch his game more. I'd try to learn proper English grammar before that. Might take awhile.

[QUOTE=KenneBell]Maybe you should watch his game more. I'd try to learn proper English grammar before that. Might take awhile.[/QUOTE]

thank you, i have already watched him during the last 13 years...and have way more interesting games to watch. and you, how many penny's games do you have watched?

don't talk like it was incomprehensible...it would be great if you could correct me! it's weird cause everyone i know from overseas understand me very well...

btw, maybe you speak french as "good" as i speak english?

[QUOTE=necya]
btw, maybe you speak french as "good" as i speak english?[/QUOTE]
If this was a French board It would matter. It's not.

As for Penny being as good as Kobe in the post, I'm sorry, it's not happening. Penny was very good though.

[QUOTE=KenneBell]If this was a French board It would matter. It's not.

As for Penny being as good as Kobe in the post, I'm sorry, it's not happening. Penny was very good though.[/QUOTE]

first, answer to the whole post, then criticize someone on his non natural language is pityful...

and please correct me, it would obviously help me.

[QUOTE=Samurai Swoosh]Loki ... don't act like Kobe's post game isn't near the quality of Jordans.[/QUOTE]

It's about 85% of MJ's in terms of overall efficacy. You can ask Kobe to recreate every move MJ ever did in the post and he'd probably be able to (though maybe not as adroitly), but that's not what ABILITY is about. Jordan was significantly more intuitive in the post than Kobe imo, made quicker/better reads, established and held position better, and had just as many if not more moves.

[QUOTE=G-Funk]Nobody said that Kobe was better than MJ from the post. I just don't think theirs a huge difference if any to believe that Jordan was a superior post player than Kobe. MJ was stronger but the skills are still there to be judged, & Kobe has not shown that he sucks from the post on the contrary he's shown that he's top 3 in the league when it comes to post players. I don;t think that's overrating[/QUOTE]

Yeah, Kobe is top 3 in the league. Jordan is #1 or 2 ALL-TIME in the post for non-bigs. Big difference. Jordan was far more intuitive on the block than Kobe (who is very technically proficient, but not as intuitive), and has done numerous things down there that Kobe hasn't. On top of that, you have his better decision making and quicker reads/reactions, which factor into his post ability.

[QUOTE=OldSchoolBBall]It's about 85% of MJ's in terms of overall efficacy. You can ask Kobe to recreate every move MJ ever did in the post and he'd probably be able to (though maybe not as adroitly), but that's not what ABILITY is about. Jordan was [B]significantly[/B] more intuitive in the post than Kobe imo, made quicker/better reads, established and held position better, and had just as many if not more moves.[/QUOTE]
:roll: :roll: :roll:

He was. That's actually the biggest difference between them in the post. Sorry you find it funny. Basketball intuitiveness is very important.

No. He wasn't. You're just pulling shit our of your ass like always. :oldlol:

[QUOTE=OldSchoolBBall]He was. That's actually the biggest difference between them in the post. Sorry you find it funny. Basketball intuitiveness is very important.[/QUOTE]

Man I'd hate to talk about Jordan in this thread, and it's ruining what I said in a post earlier in this thread, but here it goes:

You can say: Kobe has a lot of the same moves Jordan does, and there are differences in where Jordan was more athletic and finished around the hoop better. Arguing Kobe having more range than Jordan, etc.. Kobe/Jordan leg-kicking on his fadeaways, both have great footwork/postgames at sg, both ultra competitive, etc.. etc...

But their approach is extremely different.

Jordan moved without the ball better than Kobe, and found his spots better than Kobe. Jordan was more decisive, and moved quickly to not allow defenders to contest him. Jordan would never allow double teams to reach him in time to contest him. Every movement, with or without the ball was quick and decisive to avoid the defense.

Kobe loves to take the defense head-on, and believes that his confidence in his own one-on-one abilities will allow him to beat the defense straight up. It's worked for him, as he has had a successful career, but this is also the main reason why he's not as efficient as Jordan. Kobe "waits" on offense too much.

Where you notice this the most is how frequently Kobe uses his face-up triple threat position jumper with a direct contest by the defender. Jordan would never shoot these shots as frequently as Kobe. Jordan would receive the ball in triple threat, and then either pump fake-drive-layup, pass out-move to better spot-shoot more open jumper. Kobe doesn't work like Jordan, and often settles for his face-up jumper too much. A lot of these happen to be the :wtf: kind of shot was that Kobe category.

The closest comparison to Kobe in terms of skill-set and approach is actually Tracy McGrady in his prime, not Michael Jordan.

Jordan had to move quicker because he didn't have Kobe's isolation ability. He had to attack before a defense sets up because he lacked iso scoring creativity and ball-handling: everything was a drive or a pull-up mid-range jumper. Kobe, on the other hand, is the best/most creative ball-handler at the SG position ever and has a unparalleled array of shots. :applause: