Re: Ricky Rubio can't score
[QUOTE=Lakas Fan Yo]I keep saying it, he will be better in the NBA than in FIBA and Euroleague. Because he will be allowed to do whatever he wants on offense and not be defended and if anyone tries it he will go to the foul line.
But the fact is that Rubio has never been a good player at the top international and European levels. In Euroleague and EuroBasket he has been barely an average player. We are seeing the same thing in the World Championship.
99% of this forum's NBA fans swear he is the "best point guard in Europe", "best player in Europe" without even ever seeing him play a game.
How many times did I tell these fools it's called NBA marketing 101 and is all BULL SHIT? Over and over and over.
They called me a liar and a troll. Now they finally see the truth.
The truth is that Rubio is an average level player in the Euroleague. I can honestly name 50 guys last season that played better than he did. But yes, in the NBA he will better, simply because he will be able run all over the floor without ever being defended. But the fact remains that all this insane hype and nonsense about him being the best point guard in Europe is literally ludicrous.
He was like the 7-9 best player on his own team last year. In the NBA he will do fine because of the difference in defense. But he's not Nash. He's not going to make players like Nash does, which is how US media hypes him.
He's more like Rondo.........he needs the right team around him. The Wolves are off to a good start with guys like Johnson, Love, Pekovic, but they need more than that for Rubio to work. If Rubio has the right team around him with the NBA rules then he will be good.[/QUOTE]
I'd say he's above average. Combine that with his age and that makes him a great talent.
You keep saying he will be good in the NBA because the NBA sucks, but the truth is he'll be good because he'll develop and he has the talent to become an excellent player.
You're kind of coming around to him becoming a good NBA player with the Rondo comparisons, yet you refuse to give him any sort of credit.
Your views on basketball and the players involved are highly negative, you always put a negative spin on everything thats positive for players/teams outside of Greece. I don't know why you keep coming to an NBA forum.
Re: Ricky Rubio can't score
[QUOTE=KG5MVP]All this guy can do is pass, he can't shoot, he can't penetrate, he can't score.
It's delicious watching Rubio completely useless in the final minutes of the game.
And there were people comparing him to Steve Nash and Pistol Pete, LOL.[/QUOTE]
Do you remember when Steve Nash first came into the league?
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And who gives a shit if Rubio becomes a superstar? What's obvious is that his basketball IQ is off the charts, and that he's one of the best game managers in the Olympics. Those things translate.
Re: Ricky Rubio can't score
[QUOTE=GiveItToBurrito]Rubio's not very quick, but he's quick enough, has great instincts, and really long arms, I think he'll be a solid enough defender. Maybe not prime Jason Kidd, but he's not getting torched like Calderon or something. His passing and court vision are great, you can't measure the effect that can have on an offense. All the points he'll create off of not just his passes but second and third ones after will really make his team better. He can score enough, it's not like he'll average ten a game. He can get to the rim in crafty ways (like a quicker Billups) and he's developing a solid enough set shot. I'd love to see him in the Princeton or really any motion offense, maybe the Wolves will trade him to the Cavs or something.[/QUOTE]
Ricky has been developing a jump shot and has been using it more and more, obviously he isn't a sharp shooter by any means but he doesn't only shoot set shots any more. Also why would the Wolves trade him? Ricky has recently been quoted as saying Minneapolis is a great city in which he would be fine living in. Ricky will be a wolf in 2011-12 pending an NBA lockout.
Re: Ricky Rubio can't score
[QUOTE=Lakas Fan Yo]Not true. Last year Cabezas handled the point at all important moments after the group stage. Rubio does not have Cabezas to save him this time. Spain will have to use Navarro at point guard in critical moments once the real games start.[/QUOTE]
It's very true and you are wrong.
Re: Ricky Rubio can't score
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tP5E8KFhmY[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afkCUiHGZHE[/url]
It's not his strenght, but he CAN score. Yesterday he played awfully (1-7), that's all. Don't your favorite players play bad sometimes? :rolleyes:
Plus, don't forget Rubio is NINETEEN. And he's the starting PG of the current Europe and World Champion. Calderon's leave killed him. Too much responsability for a teenager. He'll get more experience in a few years, though.
Re: Ricky Rubio can't score
He might be good one day, but he's definitely NOT READY now.
I don't get all of the hype... he's just "White Chocolate" from Spain.
Oooooooooh, he threw a fancy pass :rolleyes:
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[QUOTE=basketballdude]It's very true and you are wrong.[/QUOTE]
Nope.
Re: Ricky Rubio can't score
[QUOTE=jnn][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tP5E8KFhmY[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afkCUiHGZHE[/url]
It's not his strenght, but he CAN score. Yesterday he played awfully (1-7), that's all. Don't your favorite players play bad sometimes? :rolleyes:
Plus, don't forget Rubio is NINETEEN. And he's the starting PG of the current Europe and World Champion. Calderon's leave killed him. Too much responsability for a teenager. He'll get more experience in a few years, though.[/QUOTE]
That was not an "awful" game by Rubio. That was a typical, average, normal game for him. That is how he NORMALLY plays.
Re: Ricky Rubio can't score
[QUOTE=Lakas Fan Yo]That was not an "awful" game by Rubio. That was a typical, average, normal game for him. That is how he NORMALLY plays.[/QUOTE]
Nope. You won't fool me cause I'm Spanish and I've been seeing him play since he was 14 :oldlol:
Rubio likes to run, to play in transition, to steal balls... But I repeat he's 19, he's still inmature and he lacks of experience in these kind of games. Specially when things aren't going well for Spain and everybody puts a lot of pressure on him. This pressure should go to Navarro, Marc, Rudy, Felipe, Garbajosa... But it shouldn't be the kid's fault.
Re: Ricky Rubio can't score
[QUOTE=jnn]Nope. You won't fool me cause I'm Spanish and I've been seeing him play since he was 14 :oldlol:
Rubio likes to run, to play in transition, to steal balls... But I repeat he's 19, he's still inmature and he lacks of experience in these kind of games. Specially when things aren't going well for Spain and everybody puts a lot of pressure on him. This pressure should go to Navarro, Marc, Rudy, Felipe, Garbajosa... But it shouldn't be the kid's fault.[/QUOTE]
Oh so now the Spanish fan boy trolls are coming to the thread...
Re: Ricky Rubio can't score
[QUOTE=chopchop20]He might be good one day, but he's definitely NOT READY now.
I don't get all of the hype... he's just "White Chocolate" from Spain.
Oooooooooh, he threw a fancy pass :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
Nah that's not it, very narrow minded by you.
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[QUOTE=Lakas Fan Yo]Oh so now the Spanish fan boy trolls are coming to the thread...[/QUOTE]
No shit, that guy better not be liking a 19 year old talent from his own country! God damn fan boys!
Re: Ricky Rubio can't score
[quote=LA_Showtime]Do you remember when Steve Nash first came into the league?[/quote]
This.
Re: Ricky Rubio can't score
[QUOTE=ZenMaster]I'd say he's above average. Combine that with his age and that makes him a great talent.
You keep saying he will be good in the NBA because the NBA sucks, but the truth is he'll be good because he'll develop and he has the talent to become an excellent player.
You're kind of coming around to him becoming a good NBA player with the Rondo comparisons, yet you refuse to give him any sort of credit.
Your views on basketball and the players involved are highly negative, you always put a negative spin on everything thats positive for players/teams outside of Greece. I don't know why you keep coming to an NBA forum.[/QUOTE]
Is Lakers Fan Yo a Greek?
If so that explains everything. Greasy, obnoxious, buttfking sleazebag.
Re: Ricky Rubio can't score
[QUOTE=Lakas Fan Yo]Oh so now the Spanish fan boy trolls are coming to the thread...[/QUOTE]
haha so defending Rubio means that I'm a troll.. :oldlol:
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Spain vs Greece in the next round.
Lakas could die if Rubio leads Spain to the victory
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[QUOTE=lukekarts]Is Lakers Fan Yo a Greek?
If so that explains everything. Greasy, obnoxious, buttfking sleazebag.[/QUOTE]
He pretends to be Basque, which is a region of Spain. But he was banned for sheer stupidity and now is found exiled in Greece, were he is supported by a middle-high class mature greek male who owns a gym. It is not yet known how he manages to receive such favors from the Greek mature, but many theories have been made.
Re: Ricky Rubio can't score
[QUOTE=SpanishACB]He pretends to be Basque, which is a region of Spain. But he was banned for sheer stupidity and now is found exiled in Greece, were he is supported by a middle-high class mature greek male who owns a gym. It is not yet known how he manages to receive such favors from the Greek mature, but many theories have been made.[/QUOTE]
This would explain his temper...
Re: Ricky Rubio can't score
Lakas? He can't even spell Lakers write! LOL :roll: