TRADE: Wizards trade Gilbert Arenas to Magic for Rashard Lewis!

[QUOTE=chazzy]Didn't realize J Rich is scoring 19ppg on 47%, 42% from 3. Do they start him at the 2 or have him fill the Pietrus role?[/QUOTE]

They probably will want him to be the 6th man considering how crappy the bench is. Plus you don't want to bring Arenas off the bench. Dude's ego won't allow it.

I really don't get why magic swapped, they are pretty much in the same situation again, bad player with a huge contract.

how are the gun laws like in florida?

[QUOTE=Batz]We're not talking about 15 minutes. We're saying an insurance policy as good as Gortat. Will this replacement your visioning be able to play more than 15 mpg in certain important games and not be a complete liability? I doubt it.

And no one said Gortat is the key to the Magic's success. It's that he's much more important than you think. You need to get off the 15 mpg stuff and look at the big picture here.[/QUOTE]

but gortat is not good enough to come in and play big minutes consistently either.

i understand what you are saying, but in practical terms it does not make sense.

will there be a drop off? of course, but its not going to be the impact you are potentially making it out to be.

trust me. if gortat had to play 35 minutes against the celtics or lakers he's going to get rocked just like other backups would. would gortat do better? yes, but not so much better that its worth keeping him.

its all about value. you can't look at things in a vacuum like you are.

[QUOTE=asdf1990]I really don't get why magic swapped, they are pretty much in the same situation again, bad player with a huge contract.[/QUOTE]

I think Arenas/JRich/Hedo >>>>>>>> Carter/Lewis at this point in their careers.

[QUOTE][FONT="Arial Black"][SIZE="5"]Report: Magic agree to blockbuster deal[/SIZE][/FONT]
[I][U]Goodbye, Vince. Hello again, Hedo.
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The Orlando Magic, in the midst of a 16-9 start to the season, have dispatched Vince Carter and re-acquired forward Hedo Turkoglu in a six-player trade with the Phoenix Suns, according to multiple Internet reports.

[B]ESPN's Chris Broussard reported that the Magic will [U]also[/U] receive Jason Richardson and Earl Clark in exchange for Marcin Gortat, Mickael Pietrus, a 2011 first-round draft pick and cash considerations.[/B]

The deal comes on the same day as a rumor that Orlando president Otis Smith has had discussions with the Washington Wizards regarding a potential trade for guard Gilbert Arenas.

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[url]http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/Orlando-Magic-deal-Vince-Carter-six-player-trade-with-Phoenix-Suns-121810[/url]

It's official!!?!?!

They just extended JJ redick though. Why would you want a 6th man at the SG if you just extended him? Unless they start Arenas this makes no sense.
They should start Arenas actually. They need a play maker that can find Howard in the paint and create his own shot.

[QUOTE=dee-rose]They just extended JJ redick though. Why would you want a 6th man at the SG if you just extended him? Unless they start Arenas this makes no sense.
They should start Arenas actually. They need a play maker that can find Howard in the paint and create his own shot.[/QUOTE]
I think Arenas should start. He would close to useless as a bench scorer.

idk if this has been posted..
[URL="http://www.nba.com/2010/news/12/18/magic-wizards-trade-rumors/index.html"]http://www.nba.com/2010/news/12/18/magic-wizards-trade-rumors/index.html[/URL]
whoops ignore that just go to nba.com it says its now official

[QUOTE=NastaMaverick]idk if this has been posted..
[url]http://www.nba.com/2010/news/12/18/magic-wizards-trade-rumors/index.html[/url][/QUOTE]
We know about all this. We're looking for an official 'It's done' News.

[quote=Batz]We know about all this. We're looking for an official 'It's done' News.[/quote] read the rest of my post..that was the link when you click on the "its official" link on nba.com

[QUOTE=NastaMaverick]read the rest of my post..that was the link when you click on the "its official" link on nba.com[/QUOTE]
Awesome!

Updated first post. Looks like the Magic, Wizards deal is official!

Does this make the Magic better? Who starts at SF though?

So, what is the lineup going to be?

PG: Nelson
SG: Arenas
SF: Richardson
PF: Hedo
C: Dwight

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Interesting I have to say.

[QUOTE=Kurosawa0]So, what is the lineup going to be?

PG: Nelson
SG: Arenas
SF: Richardson
PF: Hedo
C: Dwight

?

Interesting I have to say.[/QUOTE]

The way Van Gundy uses his lineups, I think JRich is coming off the bench at either the 2 or the 3 to be their 6th man. Hedo goes back to his natural SF position, the same year they made the finals in 2009. Bass will start alongside Dwight.

[QUOTE=EnoughSaid]Does this make the Magic better? Who starts at SF though?[/QUOTE]
No one can be sure about how they'll be. But just going off of predictions and 2k11... If you're not a magic fan GO INTO HIBERNATION.

And Hedo will most likely start at SF.

[QUOTE=Kurosawa0]So, what is the lineup going to be?

PG: Nelson
SG: Arenas
SF: Richardson
PF: Hedo
C: Dwight

?

Interesting I have to say.[/QUOTE]
I don't know the deal with Jameer. No way can they start both Nelson and Arenas. That'll be worse than Jameer and Carter defensively.

And J-Rich will most likely be a instant bench scorer. Atleast that's what I would do.

trade is a done deal [url]http://www.nba.com/2010/news/12/18/magic-suns-trade/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpt1[/url]

OFFICIALLY

[QUOTE=Bosnian Sajo]trade is a done deal [url]http://www.nba.com/2010/news/12/18/magic-suns-trade/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpt1[/url]

OFFICIALLY[/QUOTE]
First post updated!! :applause:


Jeff if you're alive change the thread title to first posts please!

At worst I think this deal probably solidifies the Magic as the third best team in the East. I like Arenas + Hedo more than VC & Lewis, but I'm still not sold that it's enough to get them by Miami or Boston.

With Gortat out, they're going to be really dependent on Dwight staying out of foul trouble. That could be a big problem, against Miami specifically.

They may match up better against Boston though. That Christmas day game should be interesting.

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:applause:

[QUOTE=Kurosawa0]At worst I think this deal probably solidifies the Magic as the third best team in the East. I like Arenas + Hedo more than VC & Lewis, but I'm still not sold that it's enough to get them by Miami or Boston.

With Gortat out, they're going to be really dependent on Dwight staying out of foul trouble. That could be a big problem, against Miami specifically.

They may match up better against Boston though. That Christmas day game should be interesting.[/QUOTE]
Agree with everything.

Wow, I was NOT expecting this when I woke up this morning. I'd say it's an even trade for PHX/ORL. Both get stronger at positions that have sorely needed a boost, though who is going to backup Dwight?

Who still thinks they'll deal Jameer before the deadline? I see it happening at some point in January.

PG: Arenas, Nelson, Duhon, Williams
SG: J-rich, Redick, (Arenas & Q-rich)
SF: Hedo, Q-rich
PF: Bass, Anderson, (Hedo)
C: Howard, Clark, Allen

That just screams we're not done trading yet.
Jameer Nelson just became the most obvious trading chip on the planet.

Line up should be:

Arenas
Richardson
Hedo
Bass
Howard

If Magic someone can get Wallace with trading Nelson, they would be sick

I do have to say that this was a letdown in one respect; When I saw that Phoenix and Orlando had made a trade I was like [I]"Holy Shit! Orlando got Steve Nash!!??"[/I]

Isn't there a possibility to move Jameer for someone good who can play both 4 and 5? I think, Orlando has quite chance to do something like this.

Jeff if you haven't figured it out I fully covered both the trades. I think I deserve a thread title which mentions both. :rant

hmm i think this helps my arenas fantasy stock

[QUOTE=YAWN]hmm i think this helps my arenas fantasy stock[/QUOTE]
It'll go up tbh.

its WALL against the world yo

[QUOTE=JohnWall2]its WALL against the world yo[/QUOTE]
:lol :lol

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:bowdown: :bowdown:

[QUOTE=dee-rose]PG: Arenas, Nelson, Duhon, Williams
SG: J-rich, Redick, (Arenas & Q-rich)
SF: Hedo, Q-rich
PF: Bass, Anderson, (Hedo)
C: Howard, Clark, Allen

That just screams we're not done trading yet.
Jameer Nelson just became the most obvious trading chip on the planet.[/QUOTE]


If the Heat were not an In state Rival the Heat would be a perfect place for him to go..

[QUOTE=BallsOut]I think Arenas/JRich/Hedo >>>>>>>> Carter/Lewis at this point in their careers.[/QUOTE]


Maybe but they are also Losing Pietris and Gortat there two best(important Bench players)

[QUOTE=Kingwillball]Maybe but they are also Losing Pietris and Gortat there two best(important Bench players)[/QUOTE]

Redick and Bass are more important this season. Although Bass will probably start now

[QUOTE=8BeastlyXOIAD]:lol :lol

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:bowdown: :bowdown:[/QUOTE]
:D

Will Arenas and Lewis be available for selection for their new sides tonight?

brilliant move getting rid of Lewis!

wtf? the magic just traded vince to get hedo back? :roll: