Why LeBron is (maybe) the best player in the NBA

[QUOTE=Kurosawa0]Sure, but it's about what you'd rather have. If I have two players, fairly similar talent level, I'm not taking the undersized one of the two.[/QUOTE]

I think it depends on the players rather than a blanket statement. It may generally be true, but there are always exceptions. Also, as has been mentioned Wade has other factors which make any height deficiencies largely irrelevant.

A. He's stronger than every other guard at his position, and in general.
B. His arms are longer than the average person of his height
C. He's explosively quick
D. He is a great leaper
E. He's extremely crafty and agile around the basket

I could go on. Like I said, Wade may be slightly undersized for what has traditionally been heights for sgs but it just doesn't matter.

He's truly the best player in the NBA.

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

All I know is LeBron shit on Portland tonight

LeBron with the Pooland dagger.

LeBron " The Blazers Killer" James

Of course this man is.
Neega didn't wanna go fo' a consecutivo recordo of MVP awards but that 1 lil' round object that you put around da fingzzz

As I said when he hits his outside shot like that, he's just a different animal....

But regardless, one thing is true with certainty-- whoever the best player is in the NBA, he plays basketball for the Miami Heat:cheers:

44 points on 17-26 shooting, 13 rebounds, and 6 assists tonight.

[QUOTE=jlauber]44 points on 17-26 shooting, 13 rebounds, and 6 assists tonight.[/QUOTE]

dont forget also he won the game with those stats, it was not just a simple statline, he did those things in the crunch time :bowdown:

[QUOTE=pauk]dont forget also he won the game with those stats, it was not just a simple statline, he did those things in the crunch time :bowdown:[/QUOTE]

I agree 100%. I have been getting a kick out of all of the negatives that Lebron has been getting on this forum. Before the season started, he was hailed as a "Robin." Some posters said that Cleveland would still be a playoff team. And after the Heat started out 9-8, it was LEBRON that was getting ripped.

I have said it before, but I find it hard to believe that so many owners and GM's, most all far more successful and educated than the vast majority that frequent this forum, ...were being shredded here for "chasing" after LBJ the last couple of years.

Same with the critics of Dwight Howard. Everytime he "only" puts up a 15-10 game, new threads pop up about how over-rated the guy is. Here again, I suspect that if there were draft of all of the NBA players playing today, that Lebron would go #1, and Howard would be in the top-5, and perhaps as high as #2.

[QUOTE=jlauber]I agree 100%. I have been getting a kick out of all of the negatives that Lebron has been getting on this forum. Before the season started, he was hailed as a "Robin." Some posters said that Cleveland would still be a playoff team. And after the Heat started out 9-8, it was LEBRON that was getting ripped.

I have said it before, but I find it hard to believe that so many owners and GM's, most all far more successful and educated than the vast majority that frequent this forum, ...were being shredded here for "chasing" after LBJ the last couple of years.

Same with the critics of Dwight Howard. Everytime he "only" puts up a 15-10 game, new threads pop up about how over-rated the guy is. Here again, I suspect that if there were draft of all of the NBA players playing today, that Lebron would go #1, and Howard would be in the top-5, and perhaps as high as #2.[/QUOTE]

A much needed post!

Let's be real. There's no longer a (maybe) in front of this title for Lebron. Throw all the PC [COLOR="Black"]sh[/COLOR]it out the window. I can't stand his character, but he's without doubt playing the best basketball in the league right now.

[QUOTE=Killer_Instinct]Let's be real. There's no longer a (maybe) in front of this title for Lebron. Throw all the PC [COLOR="Black"]sh[/COLOR]it out the window. I can't stand his character, but he's without doubt playing the best basketball in the league right now.[/QUOTE]

I agree, but i think the gap between Lebron & Wade is not that ridicilously big though and i still think Kobe has that mojo in him (you will see it sooner or later, i hope), so there could be a bit of doubt anyways for some. Now im speaking ability wise, but as far as who is playing the best i have to give it to Lebron, its getting a bit more obvious, especially with games like tonight.

The real interesting aspect of his year is that he totally defers in the first half. He's doesn't push his total game until the third quarter, yet, he is definitely in the running for MVP.

Lebron has one good game and people are trying to get in his pants.
Chill it, its just one freaking game. Wade scored 44 points back to back like a week ago and didn't get this much treatment.

Chill out!

[QUOTE=Pointguard]The real interesting aspect of his year is that he totally defers in the first half. He's doesn't push his total game until the third quarter, yet, he is definitely in the running for MVP.[/QUOTE]

It's not that he defers to Wade in the first half. They defer to each other whenever the other one has it going. That's why both of them are in the running.

And they're getting very good at knowing when to be the one to step forward and when to step back. Tonight Wade stepped back, yet look at his line! He shot 15/22, but he was still willing to stand aside.

In fact, the only game where the two have gotten the balance wrong since they were 9-8 is the only one they lost. The Dallas game was a "Wade-game" or should have been. However, James got into foul-trouble in the first half and over-compensated in the second half by trying to do way too much....

[QUOTE=Pointguard]The real interesting aspect of his year is that he totally defers in the first half. He's doesn't push his total game until the third quarter, yet, he is definitely in the running for MVP.[/QUOTE]

He did actually the same thing in Cleveland, play a strict pointforward role in 2-3 quarters and 4th quarter meant major business. When i think about it he has destroyed alot of career high assist games last season that way where he would probably had 20+ assists by the end of the games if he didnt go always in scoring mode instead in the 4th & OT.

He is doing the same with Heat, but now he has Wade & Bosh, he is sharing every duty with them, he will always just look to do the right plays. But when a guy is on fire, its the right play to just give him the ball and get the heck out of the way until he misses at least once hehe, this time it was Lebron, a couple of games ago it was Wade and it will keep going that way, maybe we will see Bosh aswell go nuts in crunch time aswell.

But its not that he "defers", its that he plays his role and making the right plays, he plays alot of point for them, lets not forget that.

[QUOTE=jrong]It's not that he defers to Wade in the first half. They defer to each other whenever the other one has it going. That's why both of them are in the running.

And they're getting very good at knowing when to be the one to step forward and when to step back. Tonight Wade stepped back, yet look at his line! He shot 15/22, but he was still willing to stand aside.

In fact, the only game where the two have gotten the balance wrong since they were 9-8 is the only one they lost. The Dallas game was a "Wade-game" or should have been. However, James got into foul-trouble in the first half and over-compensated in the second half by trying to do way too much....[/QUOTE]

Exactly!

I agree with this^.

But id like to see them work of each other more. IMO they get it themselves seperately. They need to assist each other more often. Especially if lebron aint getting it. Easy solution. wade penetrate and shovel pass to lebron while hes got steam.

IMO they have kinda humbled themselves. But still not really willing to play off each other. Theyre coming around but still not doing near what i feel they could do if they played off each other more.

Like when one has the ball the other wont move. Everyone acts like they have to go one at a time. I want them both to attack the rim together more.

They could score more. Shit the others dont even need to do antying but play defense. lol but im sure theres whinning about that. So it sucks that theyll get held back because of that.

Maybe? lol.

He is easily the best. No one is even close. The funny thing is, a lot of people think he still can't shoot the jump shot. He can. He hits clutch 3's, clutch mid range shots, and clutch free throws. His game is off the charts good now.

He can do every on the court. Wide open shots for teammates, get off any shot he wants, and even rebound and block shots.

[QUOTE=RoseCity07]Maybe? lol.

He is easily the best. No one is even close.[/QUOTE]

No, there's a guy on the same team who's pretty damn close. There are quite a few nights when he looks better in fact.

1a lebron
1b wade

LeBron improved on his jumpshot. But he did this last year too. I hope he keeps it this time around. It went away in the playoffs.

This year it looks pretty good though. It's been automatic.

It seems like Wade is steady improving on his jumpshot too, but he mainly attacks the rim now. Hopefully he'll get his jumper back in gear. Seems ok now.

[QUOTE=Micku]LeBron improved on his jumpshot. But he did this last year too. I hope he keeps it this time around. It went away in the playoffs.

This year it looks pretty good though. It's been automatic.

It seems like Wade is steady improving on his jumpshot too, but he mainly attacks the rim now. Hopefully he'll get his jumper back in gear. Seems ok now.[/QUOTE]

Yep. Once Wade's jumpshot gets into playoff form, if LeBron continues to shoot the way he has all season, no team will take more than two games off the Heat in a series.

[QUOTE=jrong]It's not that he defers to Wade in the first half. They defer to each other whenever the other one has it going. That's why both of them are in the running.

And they're getting very good at knowing when to be the one to step forward and when to step back. Tonight Wade stepped back, yet look at his line! He shot 15/22, but he was still willing to stand aside.

In fact, the only game where the two have gotten the balance wrong since they were 9-8 is the only one they lost. The Dallas game was a "Wade-game" or should have been. However, James got into foul-trouble in the first half and over-compensated in the second half by trying to do way too much....[/QUOTE]
True Jrong.
As [B]Showtime [/B]states above there is this mental approach of seeing defensive strategies for a quarter or two and then the will and talent asserts itself in the second half. Dwade is much more likely to bring his force and energy early, which makes sense being that the defense should be on their heels the whole game. I still have Wade/Lebron at less than 40% of a max chemistry (a point where their flow gets the other easy production).

My point is that they aren't playing intuitively yet and staying in the MVP race. They have a lot to prove but you don't see a lot of ego out there. Am I right in saying that they have a delayed imprint on the game? DRose comes out in that Boston game and despite many good players in that game, I knew within the first minute, DRose was going to be the man that night. I can watch a Heat first half and have no idea whatsoever as to who is going to be the feature, and I have done this several times.

If Lebron wins the MVP I think another player should petition to be the first half of games MVP. Durant has shot 10 foul shots before Lebron is bringing it all. You really have to be good to be doing what Lebron is doing.

[QUOTE=Micku]LeBron improved on his jumpshot. But he did this last year too. I hope he keeps it this time around. It went away in the playoffs.

This year it looks pretty good though. It's been automatic.

It seems like Wade is steady improving on his jumpshot too, but he mainly attacks the rim now. Hopefully he'll get his jumper back in gear. Seems ok now.[/QUOTE]
Hey Micku,
Their jumpshot is key because teams figure its better to just zone and create clutter around the basket which will at least limit easy access for the greatest slashers in the game. Once Mike Miller figures into the plan it really is going to be hard to stop them. It could be the best basketball we ever see.

I hate the guy, but I am impressed with the way the Heat is looking right now. At the beginning I was convinced this would be Wade's team but looking at both of them now, they can really defer to one another really well. Good luck Heat fans (The real ones) :cheers:

[QUOTE=Pointguard]Hey Micku,
Their jumpshot is key because teams figure its better to just zone and create clutter around the basket which will at least limit easy access for the greatest slashers in the game. Once Mike Miller figures into the plan it really is going to be hard to stop them. It could be the best basketball we ever see.[/QUOTE]

Surprised how long it has taken Mike Miller to get back into the swing of things. That hand must be a problem.

[QUOTE=Micku]LeBron improved on his jumpshot. But he did this last year too. I hope he keeps it this time around. It went away in the playoffs.[/quote]

It didn't go away, he just ran into Boston - who make everyone look bad. LeBron was shooting the ball better than ever in the 1st round of the playoffs.

I'll take Bosh over LeBron and Wade.

[QUOTE=d.bball.guy]I'll take Bosh over LeBron and Wade.[/QUOTE]

I would, too. To clean my house. Plus, he would be less inclined to steal.

[QUOTE=pegasus]I would, too. To clean my house. Plus, he would be less inclined to steal.[/QUOTE]

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[QUOTE=pegasus]I would, too. To clean my house. Plus, he would be less inclined to steal.[/QUOTE]
:roll: :cheers: :applause:

[QUOTE=The Decision]Lebron has one good game and people are trying to get in his pants.
Chill it, its just one freaking game. Wade scored 44 points back to back like a week ago and didn't get this much treatment.

Chill out![/QUOTE]

There's a 40 point game where u know the heat will win, then there is 40 point performance where he willed his team to a victory. He has been on a tear in the second half in the past few games. Wade made big plays but lebron delivered the daggers.

[QUOTE=asdf1990]There's a 40 point game where u know the heat will win, then there is 40 point performance where he willed his team to a victory. He has been on a tear in the second half in the past few games. Wade made big plays but lebron delivered the daggers.[/QUOTE]

I hate the guy, but I gotta admit that he was impressive last night. If he could play like that for the majority of the playoffs and then win the chip as a result of it, I could actually see myself respecting him again. But then again, he would probably go out and celebrate it all summer long in a disgustingly self-indulging way.

[QUOTE=pegasus]I hate the guy, but I gotta admit that he was impressive last night. If he could play like that for the majority of the playoffs and then win the chip as a result of it, I could actually see myself respecting him again. But then again, he would probably go out and celebrate it all summer long in a disgustingly self-indulging way.[/QUOTE]

Dont hate the player, hate the game. :)

I just hope LeBron can play the way he did last night, in the playoffs. I don't have to worry about Wade when it comes to that. Wade will certainly bring his A game, esp. against the toughest opponents. But, I don't know if LeBron can do that.

[QUOTE=canefandynasty]I just hope LeBron can play the way he did last night, in the playoffs. I don't have to worry about Wade when it comes to that. Wade will certainly bring his A game, esp. against the toughest opponents. But, I don't know if LeBron can do that.[/QUOTE]

He can. But he will also have some bad games. No doubt about that. The difference is that he now has Wade and Bosh holding his back and not Mo and Jamison. We all know how great they shoot last year in playoffs when Lebron had a "bad game" or when "he quit", whatever you call it.

Wait until he loses his athleticism.

It's going to be too late for him to develop a reliable jumper or a post game.

[COLOR="White"]Or if he gets critically injured.[/COLOR]

Where does this "LeBron doesn't play well in the playoffs" myth come from? With the exception of 1 game really, in 1 series, he's played unbelievable throughout his career in the playoffs. 09 was one of the best playoff runs in NBA history.