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[QUOTE=SinJackal]lol, what is with this thread? Chalmers was the one starting shit. Griffin is supposed to act like a p[I]u[/I]ssy when someone gets in his face because he's a rookie? No.[/QUOTE]
Yet if this thread were about Kobe and I said his actions were inexcusable you'd be 100 percent behind it so STFU and don't deny it
OK, maybe Griffin over-stepped his boundaries. But what concerns me more is that LeBron/Wade(league vets and team leaders) didn't do sh*t! They didn't back their team mate up, and they didn't check Griffin. So who is worse?
[QUOTE=lefthook00]OK, maybe Griffin over-stepped his boundaries. But what concerns me more is that LeBron/Wade(league vets and team leaders) didn't do sh*t! They didn't back their team mate up, and they didn't check Griffin. So who is worse?[/QUOTE]
Griffin didn't overstep shit; when you have Heat fans saying that Griffin was not in the wrong, you know the entire argument is bogus.
Wade/James couldn't back up Chalmers because he was already hiding behind LeBron as soon as Griffin merely looked in his direction.
Chalmers get in an altercation every game where he plays over 15 minutes.......and usually comes out on the losing end
Blake Griffin should show Mario Chalmers more respect?
:facepalm
[QUOTE=Fiasco]Griffin didn't overstep shit; when you have Heat fans saying that Griffin was not in the wrong, you know the entire argument is bogus.
Wade/James couldn't back up Chalmers because he was already hiding behind LeBron as soon as Griffin merely looked in his direction.[/QUOTE]
OK then Griffin didn't over-step anything, either way it's whatevs to me, I just find it funny that they wanted NO piece of Griffin :oldlol: . I have to say that Griffin is pretty intimidating when he gets serious.
I agree, not inexcusable but it was wrong, but well Blake Griffin can dunk in exciting ways, which elevates him to sainthood on ISH. Theres 5 threads praising him on the front page right now, while Kevin Love who is playing just as well if not better has zero.
I thought griffin pulled a garnett but after watching the vid this is nothing.People wont remember this 2 weeks from now.
[QUOTE=SleepyCorpse]I agree, not inexcusable but it was wrong, but well Blake Griffin can dunk in exciting ways, which elevates him to sainthood on ISH. Theres 5 threads praising him on the front page right now, while Kevin Love who is playing just as well if not better has zero.[/QUOTE]
Being a rookie has a huge effect on that. When a rookie averages 20 ppg, it's much more significant than a 3rd year player doing something similar. Love is on a losing team, so not as many people care. Griffin's also on a losing team, but people expect that because he's a rookie.
BLAKE GOT A TECHNICAL BECAUSE HE ANGRILY WALKED TOWARDS SOMEONE. THIS IS INEXCUSABLE BECAUSE HE IS ONLY A FIRST YEAR PLAYER.
wot.
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typically we could catagorize players with less experience and athletic prowls and say yep Coach Brown always said Rooks stay on the bench and learn... next year we'll find minutes for you...
But some of these athlete's that come out of college , not doing a full 4 years are already beyond their years in BBall IQ.
Griffin sat on the bench all of last year ... I don't think he was just pickin' his nose .. he's smart , and learns quick.
In a nut shell - he is a beast and his upside is bottomline awesome.
[QUOTE=SleepyCorpse]I agree, not inexcusable but it was wrong, but well Blake Griffin can dunk in exciting ways, which elevates him to sainthood on ISH. Theres 5 threads praising him on the front page right now, while Kevin Love who is playing just as well if not better has zero.[/QUOTE]
Kevin is a blue collar no flash get the job done guy, while Blake is power and nastiness with a blue collar attitude. They are both fantastic young players, but it doesn't take much thought to see why Blake has garnered more attention.
This is a grown man's game. The hell you talking about "Rookies shouldnt come hard" **** outta here with that.
hell no. this is entertainment at the end of the day. we want to see some passion and energy. Griffin has earnt his place on the hardwood.
Chalmers shouldn't be running his mouth on someone Blake's size, he might get hurt. And, what has Chalmers done in the league that should make Griffin respect him? He was drafted one year ahead of Blake, so it's not like he's some superstar veteran.
Wow, talk about overreaction. Its not like Blake griffin cheapshot anyone, all he did was did some trash talk, which is part of the game
Do people on this thread even realize what Chalmers did?
Blake injured his back in the third quarter. Late in the 4th quarter Chalmers ran up behind Blake and threw an elbow/forearm directly into Blake's back when Blake was looking the other direction on the play where Baron got fouled and went into the crowd.
ummmm, that's a serious no no. I didn't go through this whole thread post by post but do people here know this?
From all the replays I saw, Blake was running and shoved Chalmers in the back after Baron was fouled.
Do you have a link of the replay showing this? Because most of them are the same. Not showing what transpired until the refs come in.
If you look at the video someone earlier posted:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBZBYBlsRtc[/url]
At about 0:02-0:04 at the very right hand edge of the screen, you can see Chalmers bumping into Griffin there, before the camera view changes.
As the commentator said, Blake's back was hurting previously, and for someone to just bump him, especially after some no calls, what the hell is Griffin meant to do?
It's called human emotions, 99.9% of human beings generally react in a negative or pissed off way when they're in pain, think things are going unfairly, and when shit happens to them that that don't deserve.
Pretty sure YOU (OP), myself, and hell, freaking Gandhi would react in a similiar way given the context.
Also, this seniority business is bullshit. If Griffin was a 10 year vet - no, a player with 3 years under his belt - and Chalmers was a rookie, Blake would have every right to go after him, using your logic? That's not how it works.
I personally just feel your argument is a bit overreactive, and whilst you have every right to voice your own opinion, you seem to come off very strong and defensive. Think about context too.
P.S. Had Blake been hit and just fell without doing anything, there would be like 100000 threads shitting on Griffin, and he'd lose all respect, especially being the leader of that team.
My long ass 2cents.
More people need to take a note from Andre Miller's book and knock him on the floor.
Nobody can say he's not got it coming.
lol @ all the mad heat fans
[QUOTE=trooper]If you look at the video someone earlier posted:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBZBYBlsRtc[/url]
.[/QUOTE]chalmers is just a punk.. even after blakes slam dunk he's over there yaking like he's a proven commodity or something... lol
his new knick name should be all talk
same thing last night, he's barking at jr smith after smith burys a three in his face then goes down and turns the ball over and still keeps talking
[QUOTE=gts]chalmers is just a punk.. even after blakes slam dunk he's over there yaking like he's a proven commodity or something... lol
his new knick name should be all talk
[B]same thing last night, he's barking at jr smith after smith burys a three in his face then goes down and turns the ball over and still keeps talking[/B][/QUOTE]
Yeah, I personally feel Griffin's reaction was completely justified. I mean, the guy's having back problems, and you run into him, and the ball's not even in play. I saw also the part where he was just talking when Blake was staring him down, as if he's freaking Kobe Bryant.
Bolded: didn't see the game, but hahaha he deserved it. Wish Blake posterized him on that dunk.
[QUOTE=trooper]If you look at the video someone earlier posted:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBZBYBlsRtc[/url]
At about 0:02-0:04 at the very right hand edge of the screen, you can see Chalmers bumping into Griffin there, before the camera view changes.
As the commentator said, Blake's back was hurting previously, and for someone to just bump him, especially after some no calls, what the hell is Griffin meant to do?
It's called human emotions, 99.9% of human beings generally react in a negative or pissed off way when they're in pain, think things are going unfairly, and when shit happens to them that that don't deserve.
Pretty sure YOU (OP), myself, and hell, freaking Gandhi would react in a similiar way given the context.
Also, this seniority business is bullshit. If Griffin was a 10 year vet - no, a player with 3 years under his belt - and Chalmers was a rookie, Blake would have every right to go after him, using your logic? That's not how it works.
I personally just feel your argument is a bit overreactive, and whilst you have every right to voice your own opinion, you seem to come off very strong and defensive. Think about context too.
P.S. Had Blake been hit and just fell without doing anything, there would be like 100000 threads shitting on Griffin, and he'd lose all respect, especially being the leader of that team.
My long ass 2cents.[/QUOTE]
I have made it known that my feelings are the opposite of the original poster's. There are scuffles in basketball and sometimes a player is the instigator and may be in the wrong, but I do not feel his status as a rookie plays any kind of role.
I feel this was a small, rather insignificant scuffle. Yapping, single technicals, back to basketball. However, I'd be remiss if I did not provide another clip of the incident that shows Blake Griffin giving a little forearm first. Again, I view this incident as a "non-incident". But for whatever it's worth, here's an angle that cuts out just prior to Chalmers' return shove.
Two guys bickering over a strongarm. I would have long forgotten about this were it not for this intriguing thread.
Griffin with the (slight) strong arm: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvVqOw7OhIo&feature=related[/url]
Really stupid topic. What Griffin did was not that bad. He's a young guy and heat of the moment got him to do what he did. Him being a rookie isn't really important, at least to me...
This is what I saw:
After a Miami missed shot, the Clippers rebounded the ball and were going the other way on a fast break. As Gomes started running the other way, Chalmers purposely kicked his foot out to trip Gomes (Gomes didn’t realize it was intentional, but Griffin was in perfect position and DID!). I guess by the time Griffin made it down court, he “bumped” into Chalmers to send a message and then Chalmers pushed him. Either way, Griffin has everyone’s back on this team! I'm down wit that!
PS. don't forget the Ilgauskas slap/punch foul to Griffin's face earlier in the game. You know that had to make Blake just a little testy to begin with!
[QUOTE=DaHeezy]You haven't played sports then. You would take being pushed around by a frosh the same way as a senior?
I doubt it.[/QUOTE]
Not if I was Mario Chalmers and he was Blake Griffin