[QUOTE=MaxFly]They could have turned around and gotten more for JR Smith than the 7 million Joe Smith gets them[/QUOTE]
Trading for a player so that you can trade him to some other team is one of the worst moves a GM can make.
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[QUOTE=MaxFly]They could have turned around and gotten more for JR Smith than the 7 million Joe Smith gets them[/QUOTE]
Trading for a player so that you can trade him to some other team is one of the worst moves a GM can make.
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oh baby:bowdown:
[QUOTE=The Mamba]Getting A.I. for Andre may have possibly just saved their season while Melo and J.R. are out for a combined 25 games.[/QUOTE]
I bet this had a whole lot to do with the timing.....the Nuggs probably only wanted to give up 1 pick but were pressured due to their circumstances..
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Iverson looks high as hell in that picture. :D
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SICK!!!
Marv Albert "And it's good!!!"
So is Allen Iverson expected to score 50+ a game for the next 10-15 games?
CONGRATS TO THE NBA CHAMPION DENVER NUGGETS?
"If you want to crown em then crown their ass." - Coach Dennis Green
[QUOTE=GOBB]So retrade JR Smith again? :oldlol: Overkill. You also gotta play JR Smith (after he serves his 10gm suspension) to boost his value up. Bulls gave JR Smith away for what? I dont see the Sixers benefiting much with JR Smith as an asset as I do Joe Smith who comes off the books and atleast is a respectable forward (look consider who we have, webber sits out and we got Allan Henderson).
No other teams were offering more. :confusedshrug:
I like the deal because we get 2 first round picks.[/QUOTE]
Well I think you could play JR, let him flourish in Philly, and see how important a cog he will be. If it's looking like the team would do better to trade him in the off season, that's when I think the Sixers shoud look at a trade. But as you said, this was likely the best deal the Sixers would get from Denver... However, I still think Denver cheated them somewhat...
I have a feeling we will see the old A.I. For the past few years he's been putting up great numbers, especially with the new rules, and has done so looking un-motivated and not really showing the fire he has in 2001 and back. Maybe this will rejuvinate his career, and give him that spark again. Could be scary. IMO, Andre + draft pick for A.I. is a steal for the Nuggets. Especially when you consider the circumstances.
[QUOTE=saKf]Trading for a player so that you can trade him to some other team is one of the worst moves a GM can make.[/QUOTE]
Again, I'm not talking about right away. Let him play this season, let him put up numbers, and the re-evaluate his role on the team in the off-season. More likely than not, they wouldn't trade him... (I sure wouldn't) but JR's worth as both a player and as a trade asset is more than Joe Smith affords the Sixers.
[QUOTE=PromisedLand][B]The Nuggz had something, from the street, going with JR Smith and Melo. Now you've thrown a huge wrench into the equation with Iverson. This could be a move the Nuggz regret months from now[/B]. I'm not so sure the Nuggz didn't make this move, in part, to get talk of the brawl to subdue. They can't have their franchise player looking like a thug to all of America. They had to throw a wrench into play and now everyone is talking about Iverson in a Denver uniform. It works well in the short term. We'll see how it works out long term.[/QUOTE]
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anybody thinks he'll play tomorrow against the suns? that would be a great game
and they start off 2007 playing the sixers on the 2nd, media is going to make a story out of this
If this trade clears this evening, when will Iverson play?
The Sixers didn't get robbed, which would've been the case in many other trade scenarious. I really like the draft picks for 07. I'm not too sure about Andre Miller, I've never particularly liked him, but well.
When Melo comes back and the Nuggets are healthy (or almost healthy, considering they always have some kind of health problems), their starting five is one mean machine. Here's to hoping it works out well for Denver and Iverson, I really wish the lil warrior all the best!
long term? how long? 2-3 years?
the trade was made for now. melo is the future.
[QUOTE=The Mamba]Can we get a manip of A.I. in the uni?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Heretik32]The Sixers didn't get robbed, which would've been the case in many other trade scenarious. I really like the draft picks for 07. I'm not too sure about Andre Miller, I've never particularly liked him, but well.[/QUOTE]
The two first found picks are Denver's own and Dallas'.......what's to like? I know I know, deep draft next year etc., but they're basically upgraded secound round picks especially now that Denver has Iverson.
[QUOTE=GOBB]Translation "Damn, now Utah is gonna have to fight for this division. Melo + AI? Ugh, great!"[/QUOTE]
Yeah GOBB, that has certainly been on my mind... But it is a legitamate question whether or not Melo and AI can be effective [I]TOGETHER[/I]. Another Q: Will AI and George Karl get along for more than the typical honeymoon period? Just wondering...
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JR is not signed next year. they'd have to shell out big money for JR, which is definitely questionable.
[QUOTE=cyco127]Yeah GOBB, that has certainly been on my mind... But it is a legitamate question whether or not Melo and AI can be effective [I]TOGETHER[/I]. Another Q: Will AI and George Karl get along for more than the typical honeymoon period? Just wondering...[/QUOTE]
I think they'll be fine. AI realizes that he's been given a new lease on his NBA life and I assume he'll be on his best behavior.
Well it was great timing with Melo being out. Hopefully he can get those games cut down, because him getting 15 games is excessive considering it wasn't exactly in the crowd and just 1 punch.
Its great that they did not have to trade Nene also. Next year with Martin's D and rebounding, they're really going to be sick. I don't even think their defense will be that bad. JR is going to be the guy lost in the mix though, but only if Iverson doesn't limit his scoring and take on more of an assist role. Melo's suspension really hurts the development with AI
[QUOTE=niko]JR is not signed next year. they'd have to shell out big money for JR, which is definitely questionable.[/QUOTE]
im pretty sure he is for one more year.
[QUOTE=geeWiz15]wow... AI for Andre Miller. sixer fans consider your franchise over. they couldn't even get Camby. :roll:
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You do realize that they had lost 6 straight before AI requested the trade, right?
I think the Sixers come out fine. They get a veteran pg who i think will bring out the best in their young guys. Plus they get picks and cap relief. Not bad at all.
Well they certainly will be fun to watch...
Wow!! By the time Melo gets back from his vacation, the team will already be AI's. Here's hoping that AI can do what people think he can't - fit in.
[QUOTE=Y2Gezee]Well it was great timing with Melo being out. Hopefully he can get those games cut down, because him getting 15 games is excessive considering it wasn't exactly in the crowd and just 1 punch.
Its great that they did not have to trade Nene also. Next year with Martin's D and rebounding, they're really going to be sick. I don't even think their defense will be that bad. JR is going to be the guy lost in the mix though, but only if Iverson doesn't limit his scoring and take on more of an assist role. Melo's suspension really hurts the development with AI[/QUOTE]
I think Martin will be traded in the off season... The contracts are somewhat limiting right now... 64 million with AI, Carmelo, KMart, Nene and Camby... 5 players taking up the whole cap...
If Denver stinks during the suspensions and Philly's scouting department holds their end of the bargin Allen Iverson will not be missed in the least in the City of Brotherly Love.
Da KO King is the ultimate A.I. hater... we have to establish that first, before we consider his statements.
hehe, still my guy though.
The good thing about this trade is it is still early in the season. By mid-point, A.I. will be developing chemistry with the new system and teammates.
[QUOTE]I think Martin will be traded in the off season...[/QUOTE]
:oldlol: Not happening. 2 microfractures for a player who was already falling off. and THAT contract is virtually untradeable. Denver is stuck with that one...
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[QUOTE=BFRESH44]:oldlol: Not happening. 2 microfractures for a player who was already falling off. and THAT contract is virtually untradeable. Denver is stuck with that one...[/QUOTE]
They're not going to get equal worth, but it has to happen if they're going to continue functioning...
:roll: photoshopped pix. Yall fools
Good trade. Wow, I'm glad this trade has finally happened.
Anybody know the possible 76er lineup now?
[QUOTE=MaxFly]They're not going to get equal worth, but it has to happen if they're going to continue functioning...[/QUOTE]
I understand. But The thing is [B]NO ONE [/B]is going to trade for Kenyon Martin.
He has quite possibly the worst contract in the league.
His deal is about on par with what Juwan Howards was back in the day when he signed with Bullets.
Sixers:
Andre Miller
Kyle Korver
Andre Igulodala
Chris Webber
Samuel Dalembert
Not bad...
Wow !! Nuggs made out like bandits! Congrats! Philly getting draft picks is also a plus.. awesome!
wow, thats all Philly's getting?
so when does he play, in like a week??