Great NBA basketball player footwork videos

[QUOTE=NBASTATMAN]to become a go to guy at the end of games you have to have offense that can beat great defense..[/QUOTE]
It's not just that ...

In the playoffs teams run players off the three point line.

They don't do that in the regular season, cause no one has the energy to do that for a whole season.

They run players off the 3 ball, and build a wall around the basket. So it's more difficult to get to the hoop, and shoot the easier shots LeBron is known to take.

In the playoffs as you go ... midrange is where you have to make your living. And there is only a few players left in the league with the offensive skill and IQ to understand that is where you have to make stuff happen.

[QUOTE=Samurai Swoosh]Clearly this dude doesn't understand or play ball.
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are you serious? seems like you're the one that doesnt understand or play ball if you cant see the travel in that move (although its not that obvious). His pivot foot is the left foot but after he spins he lifts up his left foot while his right foot is still on the ground.


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If he took off with both feet at the same time it would be a legal move. Now stop trying to correct someone when you clearly wrong. Same goes for that catch24 guy

[QUOTE=PistonsFan#21]:roll:

are you serious? seems like you're the one that doesnt understand or play ball if you cant see the travel in that move:

[IMG]http://nsa24.casimages.com/img/2010/10/20/101020073017274536.gif[/IMG][/QUOTE]
I explained verbatim ... meaning with words why it wasn't. Explain to me how it is a travel.

[QUOTE=Samurai Swoosh]I explained verbatim ... meaning with words why it wasn't. Explain to me how it is a travel.[/QUOTE]
watch my explanation above

i dont really excpect you to reply because you would just embarrass yourself. Or maybe you will just admit that you were wrong this time

:confusedshrug:

[QUOTE=PistonsFan#21]
If he took off with both feet at the same time it would be a legal move.[/QUOTE]
This is true, but he jumps off both feet ...

It's the way he rotates on the reverse pivot that throws the eye off.

He jumps off the pivot foot as well.

lol that kobe move on salmons is a travel. he picks up his pivot foot while keeping the other foot on the ground. how is this even arguable?

prob wasnt called because it looks like a preseason game

[QUOTE=Samurai Swoosh]This is true, but he jumps off both feet ...

It's the way he rotates on the reverse pivot that throws the eye off.

He jumps off the pivot foot as well.[/QUOTE]
no he doesnt... just admit you're wrong. If i knew how to freeze that gif just at the right moment you would see his left foot lifted while his right foot is still touching the ground.

Like i said its not an obvious travel but it is one

I'm a fan of Kobe's footwork but that's a travel.

He stablishes left foot pivot but jumps off of right foot alone. It's so quick that the refs won't call it.

[QUOTE=Fatal9][IMG]http://oi51.tinypic.com/2e1ekh3.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]

Beautiful!

I loved Shaq's footwork back in the day, too bad he didn't make a try to work on it during his career. Not that he really needed doing moves like that to score, he was dominant enough doing his basic stuff but he wouldn't have crappy players trying to take charges if he'd move like that during his later years.

[QUOTE=PistonsFan#21]no he doesnt... just admit you're wrong. If i knew how to freeze that gif just at the right moment you would see his left foot lifted while his right foot is still touching the ground.

Like i said its not an obvious travel but it is one[/QUOTE]
See if you can ... because as it stands it looks like to me that he jumps of both feet.

At least slow the video down and it would give a better perspective.

[QUOTE=Samurai Swoosh]See if you can ... because as it stands it looks like to me that he jumps of both feet.

At least slow the video down and it would give a better perspective.[/QUOTE]

Its a Travel, and if you slow the video down and still didnt see it then you should get ur eyese check son.

Also that Shaq Gif is a travel as well, not magnified as Kobes gif but Shaq did the samething.

Bottom line These days I rarely see refs call this type of travels ever since LeBron start doing the Crab Dribble which is FAR FAR obvious.




[COLOR="White"]LeBrons working on Lobster Dribble right now after he disappeared.[/COLOR]

the lebron, kobe and shaq gifs are definitely travels.

great footwork right here
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[QUOTE=Samurai Swoosh]See if you can ... because as it stands it looks like to me that he jumps of both feet.

At least slow the video down and it would give a better perspective.[/QUOTE]

Still don't see how it's a travel. Didn't move his pivot foot -- why would it matter if he jumped with it? Makes zero sense.

[QUOTE=Samurai Swoosh]The only travel in this thread is that LeBron post up from the 1st game of the season v.s. the Celtics.

I actually love threads like these because this stuff interests me more than player a > player b ... bunch of random, useless stats, without context, etc. PER, win shares ... People can be fooled into certain people here actually know what they are talking about IE Indian Guy, etc.

In THESE threads, you really get to understand people who know the game, and play the game.

:facepalm[/QUOTE]
There are plenty of travels in this thread aside from the obvious Lebron travels.

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Takes 2.5 steps before establishing his pivot

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Takes 3 steps (he lifts his pivot if you look carefully)

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Takes 2.5 steps

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Switches pivot (his right foot is actually his pivot and not his left)

[IMG]http://oi51.tinypic.com/2e1ekh3.jpg[/IMG]

Takes 2 steps then establishes pivot

[QUOTE=Floppy]
[IMG]http://nsa24.casimages.com/img/2010/10/20/101020073017274536.gif[/IMG]

Switches pivot (his right foot is actually his pivot and not his left)
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I think his left is the pivot

[QUOTE=PistonsFan#21]His pivot foot is the left foot but after he spins he lifts up his left foot while his right foot is still on the ground.[/QUOTE]
Left pivot foot, jumps off his right foot.
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Left pivot foot, jumps off his right foot.
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Righ pivot foot, jumps off his left foot.
[IMG]http://i56.tinypic.com/2nqed4z.jpg[/IMG] [img]http://nsa28.casimages.com/img/2011/06/25/110625031848786446.jpg[/img]

So all those are travels as well then. Do you have the paragraph of the NBA rule book that says a player must jump off with both feet after establishing his pivot foot? The only thing I could find was:

[QUOTE]Art. 4. After coming to a stop and establishing the pivot foot:
a. The pivot foot may be lifted, but not returned to the playing court,
before the ball is released on a pass or try for goal;[/QUOTE]

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Forward and reverse. :oldlol:

[QUOTE=SFMF]I think his left is the pivot[/QUOTE]
Nope his right foot is his pivot.

His right foot is planted when he picks up the ball then takes a step towards the baseline with his left foot making his right foot his pivot.

[QUOTE=Floppy]Nope his right foot is his pivot.

His right foot is planted when he picks up the ball then takes a step towards the baseline with his left foot making his right foot his pivot.[/QUOTE]:wtf:

Where do you see a step with his left foot towards the baseline?

[QUOTE=KenneBell][IMG]http://i56.tinypic.com/2qs1ht2.gif[/IMG][/QUOTE]

This one is not a travel but good use of triple threat.

[QUOTE=Floppy]Nope his right foot is his pivot.

His right foot is planted when he picks up the ball then takes a step towards the baseline with his left foot making his right foot his pivot.[/QUOTE]

Uh, no, its his left.

Open up your eyes you blind skunk.

[QUOTE=Phong]:wtf:

Where do you see a step with his left foot towards the baseline?[/QUOTE]
It's hard to see cause the defender is covering it but he takes a big step towards the baseline.

You're allowed to lift your pivot foot. You just can't put it back down before getting rid of the ball. Very few traveling violations in this thread.

Maybe you don't know your left from your right but he plants his left foot as he's picking up his dribble.
[img]http://nsa27.casimages.com/img/2011/06/25/110625033520883266.jpg[/img]

Then make a step with his right towards the baseline.
[img]http://nsa28.casimages.com/img/2011/06/25/110625033626927976.jpg[/img]

Then reverse spin on his left pivot and plant his right.
[img]http://nsa28.casimages.com/img/2011/06/25/110625033730846743.jpg[/img]

Thank you Phong. As I said, not a travel.

[QUOTE=Phong]Left pivot foot, jumps off his right foot.
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Left pivot foot, jumps off his right foot.
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Righ pivot foot, jumps off his left foot.
[IMG]http://i56.tinypic.com/2nqed4z.jpg[/IMG] [img]http://nsa28.casimages.com/img/2011/06/25/110625031848786446.jpg[/img]

So all those are travels as well then. [B]Do you have the paragraph of the NBA rule book that says a player must jump off with both feet after establishing his pivot foot?[/B] The only thing I could find was:[/QUOTE]

Its travels too but like i said its not blatant ones. I dont think there is a paragraph that explains this particular case word for word but if you lift your pivot foot and keep the other foot on the ground then its the same as switching pivot foot

[QUOTE=PistonsFan#21]Its travels too but like i said its not blatant ones. I dont think there is a paragraph that explains this particular case word for word but if you lift your pivot foot and keep the other foot on the ground then its the same as switching pivot foot[/QUOTE]

Where in the rule book does it say that? Lifting your pivot foot meaning on your tippie toes or off the ground? If the former, you're incorrect.

[QUOTE=PistonsFan#21]
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that's not a travel. im surprised there is so much discussion over this. :eek:

[QUOTE=cteach111]that's not a travel. im surprised there is so much discussion over this. :eek:[/QUOTE]

Exactly. I fail to see what these goofs are looking at.

[QUOTE=cteach111]that's not a travel. im surprised there is so much discussion over this. :eek:[/QUOTE]Apparently you are supposed to jump off your pivot foot even though it's not clearly specified anywhere in the rule book. :confusedshrug:

[QUOTE=Phong]Maybe you don't know your left from your right but he plants his left foot as he's picking up his dribble.
[img]http://nsa27.casimages.com/img/2011/06/25/110625033520883266.jpg[/img]

Then make a step with his right towards the baseline.
[img]http://nsa28.casimages.com/img/2011/06/25/110625033626927976.jpg[/img]

Then reverse spin on his left pivot and plant his right.
[img]http://nsa28.casimages.com/img/2011/06/25/110625033730846743.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
:lol who are you trying to fool with those pics?

He picked up the ball way earlier and even in that first pic you can tell that he already picked up the ball before his left foot was planted (yes that foot is actually still in the air).

Nice try.

I'm off to bed as these discussions tend to be pointless anyways.

[B]James Worthy[/B]


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[QUOTE=catch24]Where in the rule book does it say that? Lifting your pivot foot meaning on your tippie toes or off the ground? If the former, you're incorrect.[/QUOTE]

lifting your pivot foot as in off the ground. Obviously you're allowed to go on tippie toes

[QUOTE=PistonsFan#21]lifting your pivot foot as in off the ground. Obviously you're allowed to go on tippie toes[/QUOTE]

Right, and where in that gif did Kobe lift his pivot (left foot)?

[QUOTE=Samurai Swoosh]:facepalm[/QUOTE]

It is a travel, though. Without question. It's not part of any "two steps" like you would get with a layup attempt because he declares his left foot his pivot foot but then the left foot leaves the ground before the right foot does. I'm not saying it would be called every time, but it's clearly a travel.

[quote=Samurai Swoosh]The Jordan move ... nicely done. This is one of the few moves I have trouble with. I simply don't have the length to sell it as well as these guys. I can do it with an approaching pick to fake a defender out. But on its own its a difficult move.[/quote]

It works best in isolation when your defender is pressing up on you tight. You can use a lead foot between the defender's legs or to one side of his to get some separation, and then when he recovers to close the distance and press up again, launch right into this move and you'll usually catch them. I used to use it to great effect in my younger days when I was blazing quick. They'd be left facing the other way. :oldlol:

People, that Kobe move is CLEARLY a travel. I've been playing ball my whole life. Once you declare a pivot foot (in this case his left foot), you must make sure that the pivot foot leaves the ground last or at the same time as the other foot - never first. If it does, that counts as a step, which, once you've stopped and established a pivot foot, you can't do.

[QUOTE=OldSchoolBBall]People, that Kobe move is CLEARLY a travel. I've been playing ball my whole life. Once you declare a pivot foot (in this case his left foot), you must make sure that the pivot foot leaves the ground last or at the same time as the other foot - never first. If it does, that counts as a step, which, once you've stopped and established a pivot foot, you can't do.[/QUOTE]
I know the rule, Loki ... I'm just saying it looks to me as if the attack foot and the pivot foot were leaving the ground at the same time. I might be wrong on this one. But I thought it was just deceiving to the eye, given he's rotating as he jumps but if you think its a travel ... I can buy your opinion more so than others in here. It's not bad foot work by any means, though. The pivot moves from Kobe in that Team USA clip and the one on Wilson Chandler aren't travels, though.

[quote=OldSchoolBball]It works best in isolation when your defender is pressing up on you tight. You can use a lead foot between the defender's legs or to one side of his to get some separation, and then when he recovers to close the distance and press up again, launch right into this move and you'll usually catch them. I used to use it to great effect in my younger days when I was blazing quick. They'd be left facing the other way[/quote]
Yea, it works best for me when I use it on a pick. I fake the direction of the pick and go the opposite way. It's a slick move, though. Maybe I just need to work on it more.

Damn, now I feel like playing some ball.

:oldlol:

I actually have a patented footwork move(s) that I do that I've never seen done by anyone (I invented it on the fly one game and then realized how well it worked and just perfected it). I've described it on the forum before, but it's hard to visualize. The options out of the fake also depend on how the defender's weight is shifted on the initial move(s). I've had dozens of people howling on the sidelines when I've busted that one out as the defender is turned the completely wrong way and looking for me in a place I'm not while I'm driving in for a layup. :oldlol:

PS - yeah, it's the fact that the feet don't come up together that make it a travel. He definitely lifts his left foot first, which you can't do.