Kobe/LBJ>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>D-Whistle.
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Kobe/LBJ>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>D-Whistle.
Wade = 2nd best sg of all-time
Kobe = 4th best sg of all-time
LeBron with good footwork in the post=MJ on the Wizards....shit just doesn't look right lol
Good for him though. The leagues best player just got better.
Congrats to Lebron.
If he started working on post game in his second season ,half of the hatred wouldnt happen.
Kobe already had post game before training with Hakeem by the way.But Lebron's power forward body might help more him even if he doesnt get great skills on post.
[SIZE="5"]YOUR ALL PIECES OF TURD WHICH TURNED A GREAT THREAD ABOUT LeBRON HELPING KIDS AND TRYING TO IMPROVE HIS GAME ABOUT WHETHER KOBE WADE OR LEBRON IS THE BEST.
GO MAKE A GIANT FCKN THREAD FOR YOURSELVES YOU HATE MONGERING CRACK POTS.
I don't complement Lebron alot but, this is the first time in a long time he has shown me something good and I can't hate like you turds.
I hope Jeff bans you all
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If james does develope some strong post moves to maximize that size, the league is gonna in some serious trouble for the next 7-8 years.
Same shit every year.
There is nothing wrong with his game, its his attitude and mindset that needs work.
He plays to 75% of his ability in the Finals and the Heat could have swept.
Instead he doesnt turn up. He needs a shrink not Hakeem
MJ and Kobe their first few years in the league have better post game than Lebron right now.
[QUOTE=97 bulls]If james does develope some strong post moves to maximize that size, the league is gonna in some serious trouble for the next 7-8 years.[/QUOTE]
Lebron should have tatooed If on his sideback instead of choosen 1.All his game/life is based on "If".
Maybe now Lebron won't look awkward as all hell when he's in the post.
[QUOTE=Irish]Same shit every year.
There is nothing wrong with his game, its his attitude and mindset that needs work.
He plays to 75% of his ability in the Finals and the Heat could have swept.
Instead he doesnt turn up. He needs a shrink not Hakeem[/QUOTE]
:applause: Agreed. A post-game would definitely help space the Heat's offense. Unfortunately, the other half of LBJ's problems are between the ears.
good for him
About ****ing time, if he can develope a post game, then he can get down on the block and use his height and power to score when his jumper isn't falling and the other team clogs up his driving lanes.Plus, he's a really good passer, he can get his team easy shots if they send a doubleteam.
Mark Jackson had a very good post up game, why the **** can't LBJ?
Bron goes from a 66 win team to joining a dream team to chase a ring and fails. After such a horrible decision with a result that is laughable at best, working hard to improve his short comings is nothing commendable, and it should be expected at the very least.
[QUOTE=Theoo's Daddy][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2JoSvpGgOs[/url]
read more here.
[url]http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AhwctZt3HiK_Arie5XU43rS8vLYF?slug=ap-heat-jamesinterview[/url][/QUOTE]
Thanks LeBron....bout time u took this game serious enough...If this is true you've won me over. I look at you and see a guy that should be head and shoulders above the rest, but your lack of motivation and dedication to working on improving has made me dislike you, that along with your "i'm the ish" demeanor. Hope you really are working hard on improving the league must be very wary if this is so.
Lebron's next level is not actually the post game, but his off the ball catch and shoot.
[QUOTE=rodman91]Congrats to Lebron.
If he started working on post game in his second season ,half of the hatred wouldnt happen.
Kobe already had post game before training with Hakeem by the way.But Lebron's power forward body might help more him even if he doesnt get great skills on post.[/QUOTE]
Agreed with everything you said.
Better late then never for LeBron. I think we will see some improvement in his post game but I don't think he will ever have the footwork Kobe and Hakeem posses.
[QUOTE=Chaddai]Lebron's next level is not actually the post game, but his off the ball catch and shoot.[/QUOTE]
Funny thing is, his off ball catch and shoot game is really not that bad. The times he goes to it playing like a traditional SG, he looks pretty good. The offense usually calls for him to the primary ball handler so he never goes to it.
[QUOTE=thejumpa]Funny thing is, his off ball catch and shoot game is really not that bad. The times he goes to it playing like a traditional SG, he looks pretty good. The offense usually calls for him to the primary ball handler so he never goes to it.[/QUOTE]
This. Tired of people saying LeBron can't shoot. He has improved his jump shot so much compared to when he came into the league. Sure, he's not a brilliant shooter, but he's definitely above average. He's also great at creating his own shot and his shot selection is usually very good as well. He could be a little more consistent with his three pointers, though.
This is impressive because it's kinda vulnerable to go to Hakeem to work on footwork after a losing season.. But it wasn't a losing season, he was in the Finals. It's good for karma and placebo, because i could teach better footwork then Hakeem really. It's like these ******s catapult themselves into game and discover obvious things pretty late in their career. Like, try to step a little ****ing differently if the guard reads what you are doing. Jesus H ****ing Christ just do the best thing naturally. Like that 360 layup on a defender, that was pure relaxed and smooth basketball move.
JESUS.
If he gets better then its over!
Saw this earlier today... Good for him, he needs to work on his post game because as a 6'8" 250 freak, he will need to go to his post game, especially as he loses his speed later in his career.
Funny how the mere mention of Hakeem is enough for people to say dumb shit like:[I]"it's over for the league, LeBron's gonna destroy everything, he's gonna be the GOAT, directly top 5 with just one ring..."[/I]
People still haven't learned not to put to put the cart before the horse. :facepalm
he sounded very humble in that espn interview.
[QUOTE=SmackOrH.A.K]he sounded very humble in that espn interview.[/QUOTE]
He was. Maibe he is more focust now, lets hope!
Also nice to see him helping young kids!
[QUOTE=Phong]Funny how the mere mention of Hakeem is enough for people to say dumb shit like:[I]"it's over for the league, LeBron's gonna destroy everything, he's gonna be the GOAT, directly top 5 with just one ring..."[/I]
People still haven't learned not to put to put the cart before the horse. :facepalm[/QUOTE]
People overreact and let their optimism get the best of them. How is that so awful that you have to cry about it twice?
Any video? The one op posted doesn't work for me
[QUOTE=RRR3]This. Tired of people saying LeBron can't shoot. He has improved his jump shot so much compared to when he came into the league. Sure, he's not a brilliant shooter, but he's definitely above average. He's also great at creating his own shot and his shot selection is usually very good as well. He could be a little more consistent with his three pointers, though.[/QUOTE]
Yup. He can shoot. His outside jumper this year was better than Kobe. He just needs to improve his mid range in my opinion.
Last Season's outside jumpers % for both of em.
Kobe's long range 16-23 ft 2.2FGM 5.9 FGA 38.0%
Lebron's long range 16-23 ft 2.4FGM 5.4FGA 45.0%
Lebron needs to improve his off the ball/catch and shoot though. He can make his own jump shot, but I've noticed sometimes when he gets the ball and he's open he takes a dribble before he shoots. That tells us that his catch and shoot is weak. If Lebron had an off the ball game, I doubt his performance would be so low in the Finals this year. This finals, he'd just get the ball and hold it and let the defense load up on him. If he's working without the ball their is less pressure on defense , so he can score easier. He has to work on his mentality of the game too. He needs to know he has to get his shots too even though Wade or whatever is hot or he will get thrown of rhythm with his shots.
[QUOTE=Chaddai]Yup. He can shoot. His outside jumper this year was better than Kobe. He just needs to improve his mid range in my opinion.
Last Season's outside jumpers % for both of em.
Kobe's long range 16-23 ft 2.2FGM 5.9 FGA 38.0%
Lebron's long range 16-23 ft 2.4FGM 5.4FGA 45.0%
Lebron needs to improve his off the ball/catch and shoot though. He can make his own jump shot, but I've noticed sometimes when he gets the ball and he's open he takes a dribble before he shoots. That tells us that his catch and shoot is weak. If Lebron had an off the ball game, I doubt his performance would be so low in the Finals this year. This finals, he'd just get the ball and hold it and let the defense load up on him. If he's working without the ball their is less pressure on defense , so he can score easier. He has to work on his mentality of the game too. He needs to know he has to get his shots too even though Wade or whatever is hot or he will get thrown of rhythm with his shots.[/QUOTE]
you people are so dumb.....James got most of his jumpers off of screens or being played off...We all saw what happened to his J when constested the way Guys Like Durant, Melo and Kobe are contested on their jumpers......He still can't shoot consistently and under tough defense like those guys
[QUOTE=I.R.Beast]you people are so dumb.....James got most of his jumpers off of screens or being played off...We all saw what happened to his J when constested the way Guys Like Durant, Melo and Kobe are contested on their jumpers......He still can't shoot consistently and under tough defense like those guys[/QUOTE]
You mean like in the Chicago series?
Being a steak shooter doesn't mean he can't shoot when defense tightens up; it just means there are periods when he's very on and very off.
[QUOTE=Irish]Same shit every year.
There is nothing wrong with his game, its his attitude and mindset that needs work.
He plays to 75% of his ability in the Finals and the Heat could have swept.
Instead he doesnt turn up. [B]He needs a shrink[/B] not Hakeem[/QUOTE]
Also true.Must be blind to not see he losts his confidence so quickly when things go wrong.
Any footage of LeBron working with Hakeem?
[QUOTE=Lebron23]Any footage of LeBron working with Hakeem?[/QUOTE]
I dont think they took any. it could've been all over the net by now.
[QUOTE=Theoo's Daddy][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2JoSvpGgOs[/url]
read more here.
[url]http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AhwctZt3HiK_Arie5XU43rS8vLYF?slug=ap-heat-jamesinterview[/url][/QUOTE]
At least he went to the master.. Though I think that Mchale's footwork would be easier for Lebron to learn.. Not sure if anyone but THE DREAM COULD PULL OFF HIS FOOTWORK.. :rockon: STAY SAFE
Of course Kobe had a decent post game before 2009. He had a copy of Michael Jordan's "Hangtime" lodged pretty firmly up his ass.
Anyways, kudos to LeBron for recognizing he needed to work on this aspect of his game. If he can develop it, the rest of the league is in big trouble.
[QUOTE=ThaSwagg3r]I hope people understand that working with Hakeem doesn't automatically mean you'll be great in the post. Howard is probably the only player that has been more successful working with Hakeem.
I remember Emeka Okafor and Josh Smith worked with Hakeem, how much better are they? :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
Josh Smith's post game remarkably improved after the summer with Hakeem. He had perhaps his best season bc he stopped taking 3s and played predominantly from the post. Now when he works out of the post he is much improved than what he was several years ago. The issue with him is for some reason that is not apparent to anyone else, he prefers to linger 15-18 ft away from the basket as opposed to what he does best. Hakeem helped him out with his back to the basket game but helping Josh out with his Bball IQ is beyond Hakeem's scope of expertise.
[QUOTE=Lebron23]Any footage of LeBron working with Hakeem?[/QUOTE]
:bowdown:
"no pic or its all fake"
Why is this news? According to LeBron, he's been working on his post game for the past 5 years. Seriously, until LeBron proves it on the court no one should get excited. LeBron talking about his post game is like Jermaine O'Neal telling everyone he's going to be healthy and return to his all-star self.
LeBron and Dwight have been working on the Dream Shake since forever.
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