ESPN: Lakers looking to trade for BOTH CP3 & Dwight Howard

[QUOTE=BEAST Griffin]:roll: :roll: :roll:

The Clippers will trade the Minny 1st round pick, Chris Kaman's expiring contact, Mo Williams and Aminu for Pau Gasol and Trevor Ariza just so that Lakers can get Chris Paul???

Clippers don't even have use for Pau Gasol.

If anything the Clippers will make a direct trade with the Hornets to get Chris Paul.

Wasting all the trade assets for the Lakers benefit...RIGHT

Clippers would rather keep the Minny 1st round pick in a stacked draft than such a garbage trade.

Give me some of what you're smoking. LMFAO.[/QUOTE]

What are you talking about?
Of course if Chris Paul will in fact sign an extension with the Clippers, then they could try and trade for him; but I doubt they would land him directly without giving up Eric Gordon.

You don't think Mo Williams, Aminu, Kaman & lottery pick is worth Pau Gasol and Trevor Ariza? You have to be kidding me.
Gasol, Griffin, Ariza & Gordon would become an immediate contender. :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]I think the Lakers can get Dwight, but not CP3 aswell[/QUOTE]

as much as I desperately want one to come to the clippers, i'm starting to think whether its possible that dfish can be right... if the lakers get dwight first, i could see that attracting cp3

*shudders*

[QUOTE=rhythmic †hesis]You don't think Mo Williams, Aminu, Kaman & lottery pick is worth Pau Gasol and Trevor Ariza? You have to be kidding me.
Gasol, Griffin, Ariza & Gordon would become an immediate contender. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

if we can't get dwight, i would [i]love [/i]to get pau gasol... i'd pull the trigger on that trade too

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Bynum/Odom for Howard/Turk

Gasol/Brown/Ebanks for Paul

Paul
Bryant
Artest
Turkoglu
Howard

Make it happen Mitch :bowdown: [COLOR="White"]a guy can dream, eh?[/COLOR]

[QUOTE=Bosnian Sajo]Bynum/Odom for Howard/Turk

Gasol/Brown/Ebanks for Paul

Paul
Bryant
Artest
Turkoglu
Howard

Make it happen Mitch :bowdown: [COLOR="White"]a guy can dream, eh?[/COLOR][/QUOTE]

I dont want to Give up Odom or Gasol lol
Take our scrubs Orlando and N.O.!

[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]I dont want to Give up Odom or Gasol lol
Take our scrubs Orlando and N.O.![/QUOTE]

lol

[QUOTE=Doranku]How is collusion even remotely similar to trading? What a stupid post.

LeBron and Bosh agreeing to join forces with Wade in Miami during their free agency =/= Team management improving their team through trades[/QUOTE]

Ok I am a Lakers fan and even I know that's nitpicking. It's both the same thing essentially.

Since everyone is posting pipe dream scenarios, I guess the Knicks should offer Landry Fields for CP3 and Turiaf for Howard.

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[QUOTE=JohnnyFord]no mo williams aminu kaman and the minny pick is not worth gasol and ariza. YOU have to be kidding or your just high. why would the clippers want gasol whose over 30 when they have blake???[/QUOTE]

Am I missing something?
Gasol is a finesse player, he'll probably be playing at an All-Star level for another 4-5 years. He has won two championships playing as a center and is a terrific passer. You seriously think Kaman (probably won't re-sign with LAC anyways), Aminu, M. Williams & lottery pick is too much?

You're getting a top five PF in the league, for a role player, a shooting guard playing point guard, an expiring contract and a lottery pick.

More importantly, it gives the Clippers a dangerous trio. They will become a legit threat out west with Pau in the lineup and make a crap load of revenue from ticket sales. I seriously can't be the only person that sees this as a great trade for the Clippers.

But I guess Gasol is only great when it's convenient to bash Kobe, right?

[QUOTE=Sarcastic]Since everyone is posting pipe dream scenarios, I guess the Knicks should offer Landry Fields for CP3 and Turiaf for Howard.[/QUOTE]

Except Odom, Bynum, and Gasol are actually quality players........

[QUOTE=Bosnian Sajo]Except Odom, Bynum, and Gasol are actually quality players........[/QUOTE]

Still a pipe dream if you think you can turn that into CP3 and DH12.

Clippers wouldn't do any deal that helps the Lakers get better.

They're not going to go from trying to get CP3 or Dwight to come help them contend in the West, to handing the Lakers NBA Finals for the next 6 years.

[QUOTE=Sarcastic]Still a pipe dream if you think you can turn that into CP3 and DH12.[/QUOTE]

The Lakers received Caron Butler and Lamar Odom for Shaquille O'Neal seven years ago. You think Dwight Howard isn't worth Lamar Odom and Andrew Bynum? If he demands a trade to LA?

[QUOTE=Sarcastic]Still a pipe dream if you think you can turn that into CP3 and DH12.[/QUOTE]
They definitely have the piece to get their pick of one though. :banana:

[QUOTE=rhythmic †hesis]What are you talking about?
Of course if Chris Paul will in fact sign an extension with the Clippers, then they could try and trade for him; but I doubt they would land him directly without giving up Eric Gordon.

You don't think Mo Williams, Aminu, Kaman & lottery pick is worth Pau Gasol and Trevor Ariza? You have to be kidding me.
Gasol, Griffin, Ariza & Gordon would become an immediate contender. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

The Clippers don't need Pau Gasol. They don't need Pau Gasol to share the ball with Blake on offense. The Clippers already have more than enough scoring near the paint. And Deandre Jordan is a young, good defender who complements Blake perfectly.

Not to mention the Clippers can get a better SF than Trevor Ariza with their trade assets.

You're literally suggesting the Clippers give up their tremendous trade assets to land Pau Gasol, who's not needed, and Trevor Ariza when they could go for Chris Paul or just keep the team the way it is and trade Kaman's expirer + Mo Williams or young projects for an upgrade at SF and have a high draft pick for the stacked 2012 draft.

[QUOTE=YAWN]Clippers wouldn't do any deal that helps the Lakers get better.

They're not going to go from trying to get CP3 or Dwight to come help them contend in the West, to handing the Lakers NBA Finals for the next 6 years.[/QUOTE]

Wait, so they wouldn't try and acquire a guy like Pau Gasol because Howard and/or Paul are not interested in signing an extension with them?

I am sure if Howard & Paul came out and said they would love to play for the Clippers; I would have never created that hypothetical scenario.

[B]Clippers would be helping themselves, which would be within their control. Howard or Paul not wanting to sign an extension with the Clippers, is NOT in their control.[/B]

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[QUOTE=Sarcastic]You comparing Shaq who was beefing with Kobe and at the end of his prime to Howard who is just starting his peak period?[/QUOTE]


keep drinking the stuff in ur avatar and post sh!t which doesnt make any sense

[QUOTE=BEAST Griffin]The Clippers don't need Pau Gasol. They don't need Pau Gasol to share the ball with Blake on offense. The Clippers already have more than enough scoring near the paint. And Deandre Jordan is a young, good defender who complements Blake perfectly.

Not to mention the Clippers can get a better SF than Trevor Ariza with their trade assets.

You're literally suggesting the Clippers give up their tremendous trade assets to land Pau Gasol, who's not needed, and Trevor Ariza when they could go for Chris Paul or just keep the team the way it is and trade Kaman's expirer + Garbage for an upgrade at SF and then have a high draft pick for the stacked 2012 draft.[/QUOTE]

Ah, I don't agree at all.
Pau Gasol is a stud in this league. If you can acquire him to improve your team [B]tremendously[/B] you do it. I love how you're trying to over-value the assets the Clippers are giving up. :rolleyes:

Just two years ago, he was on everyone's top ten list. He is an efficient scorer, great rebounder, good shot blocker and a great play-maker. Most importantly he is very unselfish so I doubt he'd abrupt Griffin's development/touches. Gasol/Griffin alongside Gordon is a dangerous squad, period. I almost spit out my energy drink when I read your rebuttal about "Jordan" being a fine compliment player.

Yeah he's a nice project, but it's not like they're getting rid of him. The different in impact between Pau and Jordan is astonishing. I think many Clipper fans such as yourself would change their minds the minute they see those three on the court together. Pau and Timmy D are the ultimate team-players at the PF/C position.

But we'll agree to disagree, I can tell you despise my trade scenario.

[QUOTE=Lakers_Kobe_Fan]they are old and slow man..other than bynum everybody is over 30

I would say get some value for Pau now when he has some ....another horrible playoffs and he becomes a burden

Bynum is a knee injury waiting to happen....trade him while other gm's see potential in him[/QUOTE]

The same could be said about Greg Oden, but Bynum has at least played more games than he has. The Lakers pulled of a coup by getting Gasol in the first place. I don't see them pulling off another one by signing BOTH Howard and Paul. Eventually, they may get one of them, and like I said before, I'd prefer it be Paul. But they're certainly not going to sign both. :no:

[QUOTE=Sarcastic]You comparing Shaq who was beefing with Kobe and at the end of his prime to Howard who is just starting his peak period?[/QUOTE]

If Howard wants to leave Orlando, as I am speculating he does; then what's the difference exactly? (between the two issues)

[QUOTE=Lakers_Kobe_Fan]keep drinking the stuff in ur avatar and post sh!t which doesnt make any sense[/QUOTE]
keep trolling and being a kobe cockrider

Pau is also 31 and just played like shit last year. He is closer to a declining player than a peak player.

ESPN reporting that Clippers are trying for the double whammy like the Lakers to get both of these guys. Sources say Lakers have edge of Dwight wanting to play there... but Clippers have edge with CP3.

This would be interesting...

If this happens New York is doing this... :cry:

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[QUOTE=JohnnyFord]keep trolling and being a kobe cockrider[/QUOTE]

ok buddy...:cheers:

[QUOTE=rhythmic †hesis]Ah, I don't agree at all.
Pau Gasol is a stud in this league. If you can acquire him to improve your team [B]tremendously[/B] you do it. I love how you're trying to over-value the assets the Clippers are giving up. :rolleyes:

Just two years ago, he was on everyone's top ten list. He is an efficient scorer, great rebounder, good shot blocker and a great play-maker. Most importantly he is very unselfish so I doubt he'd abrupt Griffin's development/touches. Gasol/Griffin alongside Gordon is a dangerous squad, period. I almost spit out my energy drink when I read your rebuttal about "Jordan" being a fine compliment player.

Yeah he's a nice project, but it's not like they're getting rid of him. The different in impact between Pau and Jordan is astonishing. I think many Clipper fans such as yourself would change their minds the minute they see those three on the court together. Pau and Timmy D are the ultimate team-players at the PF/C position.

But we'll agree to disagree, I can tell you despise my trade scenario.[/QUOTE]

You also forget that Pau Gasol is already 31 years old. He's simply not worth it giving up Kaman's expiring contract + Minny 1st round pick.

And Deandre Jordan IS a fine complimentary player. He doesn't need the ball. He just defends and puts left over garbage into the basket.

Dirkules laughs as Kobe cries for help!

[QUOTE=brisbaneman]Dirkules laughs as Kobe cries for help![/QUOTE]

Kobe: 5 rings
Mavs: 1 ring

[QUOTE=Dengness9]the fact that so many people are taking this serious is truly embarrassing to me as an insane NBA obsessed fan.

There is no chance of this happening but yet idiots are gobbling up Chris Broussards BS like they always do.


As much as I love NBA rumors, I'm starting to get really sick and tired of this shit. Its not even funny reading how many Lakers fans on espn.com actually think this is happening.

Conceited is not even the word for some of these ppl.[/QUOTE]


That's what people said when the Lakers traded Kwame Brown for Pau Gasol.

While I think it's highly unlikely the Lakers land both players, I wouldn't doubt that they land at least one of them.

[QUOTE=Sarcastic]Unless he says "Lakers only", the Magic are going to shop him to the highest bidder, and there will be better deals than Bynum and Odom.[/QUOTE]

have there been better ones offered thus far?

No doubt that some other teams can put together better pieces, but most would have to include untouchable players from their roster..

Then there is also the fact that Dwight has to be willing to commit to an extension before the trade partner is willing to part with their valuable assets.

[QUOTE=bdreason]That's what people said when the Lakers traded Kwame Brown for Pau Gasol.

While I think it's highly unlikely the Lakers land both players, I wouldn't doubt that they land at least one of them.[/QUOTE]

i think 1 should be well enough...but man if they get both...its like jackpot

Yeah, Chris Broussard is definitely a reliable source :rolleyes:

let's face it: the draw to clippers is playing alongside griffin. beyond that, players will look at ownership, management and coaching. clips fans hate when you him up but the sterling affect is real and you know it.

that said, i see it being extremely difficult for lakers to get both. expect ish to be down for a couple days if it happens :lol

[QUOTE=brisbaneman]Dirkules laughs as Kobe cries for help![/QUOTE]
This makes no sense.

2004 all over again? Don't they learn?

[QUOTE=AMISTILLILL]Yeah, Chris Broussard is definitely a reliable source :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

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[QUOTE=brisbaneman]Dirkules laughs as Kobe cries for help![/QUOTE]

Huh?