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[QUOTE=gyu]The pushing he did to Andre when Andre boxed out is that legal or would that be a foul? I hate playing guys who just shoves and pushes you from behind when you have them boxed out.[/QUOTE]
All of the plays shown in the OPs videos should of been a foul on Blake.
The Morris one was the weakest of them all though, it was definitely a dumb move by both guys.
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How did the refs not call that Andre Miller foul? lol.
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[QUOTE=senelcoolidge]Griffin is a nice guy off the court. Last year he started off as too much a nice guy and got abused in the paint. He quickly learned how nasty the NBA is. So, he's no longer a nice guy. He's quite nasty on the court. He's old school, he's not there to be friends with the opposing team. There are guys always pushing in the paint. It's just that when a small guy goes in there with the big guys the little guy has no chance against the big. Griffin pushes and shoves like every other player in the league. He's not trying to hurt people. He gets hacked and hit all the time. Chalmers and the heat were sore losers and tried to get Griffin upset. It ended up back firing on them and he just when beast on them. He also learned the flopping from other great floppers like kobe, lebron, wade, etc. This is just people nit picking. Haters. When you have a lot of haters than you know you're good. He's not a bad guy.[/QUOTE]
Bingo.
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[QUOTE=devin34harris]i wanna see him push dwill tonight, so he can set him straight[/QUOTE]
I want to see that happen. I love to see an NBA PG push him when attempts a dunk in mid air. I am not even a huge fan of the Lakers, but he shouldn't have shoved Darius Morris.
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griffin getting some hatred? that surely means he's a legit superstar now
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NBA fans are so soft these days. Don't want to get fouled after the whistle? Don't try and dunk on somebody after the whistle blows.
And Blake only gives out what he receives. These are grown ass men, let them play like it.
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[QUOTE=JD_TO]I remember Andre Miller laying out MoPete when he was on the cavs[/QUOTE]
:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:
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Omg!
That Andre miller bullet shit was epic!!
Lmaoo
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[QUOTE=Lebron23]I want to see that happen. I love to see an NBA PG push him when attempts a dunk in mid air. I am not even a huge fan of the Lakers, but he shouldn't have shoved Darius Morris.[/QUOTE]
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdWF3luMGKI"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdWF3luMGKI[/URL]
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[QUOTE=colorz][URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdWF3luMGKI"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdWF3luMGKI[/URL][/QUOTE]
Harris is a dirty player. That flagrant foul probably triggered Griffin's hatred of opposing teams NBA Point Guards.
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[QUOTE=colorz][URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdWF3luMGKI"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdWF3luMGKI[/URL][/QUOTE]
ISH Retard Reactions: "Griffin shouldn't of wrapped his neck around Devin Harris' arms like that."
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[QUOTE=Fiasco]ISH Retard Reactions: "Griffin shouldn't of wrapped his neck around Devin Harris' arms like that."[/QUOTE]
:oldlol:
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little players can be really annoying at times, he's just putting them in their place. Don't mess with a big.
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[QUOTE=colorz][URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdWF3luMGKI"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdWF3luMGKI[/URL][/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Lebron23]Harris is a dirty player. That flagrant foul probably triggered Griffin's hatred of opposing teams NBA Point Guards.[/QUOTE]
Maybe you should learn about sequence of events first.
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[QUOTE=The Poet]Maybe you should learn about sequence of events first.[/QUOTE]
Maybe you should spend time watching games before you chime in. That clothesline was COMPLETELY unprovoked and Devin Harris even went out of his way to apologize to Griffin after the game and admit he was completely in the wrong. Griffin's nonstop hustle and fire gets under people's skin. Not to mention he DOES play mind games with people to annoy them.
That being said... he took more cheapshots than anybody in the NBA last year. Many people hit him airborne just to prevent dunks. It's a travesty because people aren't even going for the ball. They just want to "send a message" and lowbridge him etc. IMO.... if you can't play defense and get burned.. you take it like a man and get scored on. You don't deliver a chicken sh** foul like players did to Griffin.
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Now people are lauding Devin Harris' flagrant foul?
Says everything.
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[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_EMke5Rxlk"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_EMke5Rxlk[/URL]
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[QUOTE=BEAST Griffin]Tackling a guy because you're mad you got a little shove in the paint trying to grab boards with the big guys. Can't handle it? Don't go there.
If anything, that showed insecurity on Andre Miller's part.[/QUOTE]
lol @ your username
dre owned griffin, get over it
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Had I not watched the clip and only read your comments I would have likened this to the "Malice At the Palace." This is rediculous how much hype this has caused. If I were to put myself in Mike Brown's shoes I too would have been mad in the moment, but I bet when he watched back the video later that evening his perspective would have changed.
Basketball is a contact sport and tempers flare. If you have ever played you know that people get under your skin and you want to cheap shot them. I watched my best friend get tee'd up for running down the court and putting a shoulder into someone exactly the same way Griffen did to chalmers. Does that make him a dirt ball player?
I think this whole conversation is nothing more than a few Griffen haters making a mountain out of a mole hill.
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[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUmRKSm6Aa8&feature=related[/url]
Blake Griffin again......yet he whines for calls.
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I hate to be repeating what more people have said, but I'm sortof growing a thing against Griffin's attitude as well. He's always complaining and he gets a lot of ('superstar') calls already. I'm not saying he doesn't deserve the calls he's getting but when there's some contact he'll usually get the whistle, the same way Lebron, Wade and Kobe do, for instance.
He should just go out there and play his ass off, at times it seems to me like he's worrying about too many things that shouldn't be on his mind at that time.
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[QUOTE=Clutch]Andre Miller :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:
Griffin is a whiny bitch.
Dwyane Wade of the power forwards :lol[/QUOTE]
What did Griffin do in there that was whiny?
He pushed Miller, Miller knocked him to the floor. He stood up and took it like a man. He didn't do anything dramatic.
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[QUOTE=burnsy87]What did Griffin do in there that was whiny?
He pushed Miller, Miller knocked him to the floor. He stood up and took it like a man. He didn't do anything dramatic.[/QUOTE]
He argues about almost every call that doesn't go in his favor.
If he starts to jump around with arms raised looking for a foul then he will be a bigger version of D-Whistle :lol
Something like this: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFA5vSjvzGk[/url]
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If Griffin was in NHL, he would get roughed up every night for being a massive ****. Equal blame goes to the NBA and its coddling of star players.
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[QUOTE=Clutch]He argues about almost every call that doesn't go in his favor.
If he starts to jump around with arms raised looking for a foul then he will be a bigger version of D-Whistle :lol
Something like this: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFA5vSjvzGk[/url][/QUOTE]
KNICKS ARE BACK
Location: MSG
:rolleyes:
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[QUOTE=Kevin_Gamble]If Griffin was in NHL, he would get roughed up every night for being a massive ****. Equal blame goes to the NBA and its coddling of star players.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, he's a massive bitch. That's why he just gets back up and keeps playing after he gets cheap shotted and taken down going for a dunk.
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LMAO at this thread.
Rook tried to disrepect the Clippers by dunking after the whistle and Griffin showed him it was not how things are done.
Anyone thinking it was malicious or anywhere near the level of Bynum on Barea is straight retarded.
No doubt Griffin is a chippy player. I wouldn't say he is "dirty" in that he wants to hurt people but he def. pushes/shoves/flops/complains etc etc... every little trick to win at all costs.
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[QUOTE=Darius]LMAO at this thread.
Rook tried to disrepect the Clippers by dunking after the whistle and Griffin showed him it was not how things are done.
Anyone thinking it was malicious or anywhere near the level of Bynum on Barea is straight retarded.
No doubt Griffin is a chippy player. I wouldn't say he is "dirty" in that he wants to hurt people but he [B]def. pushes/shoves/flops/complains etc etc... every little trick to win at all costs.[/B][/QUOTE]
My gut says he won't win anything for reasons I have already listed. He has no excuses, he has a team built for him from his second year in the league. Well see his career plays out.
Guy seems like a frontrunner who can't control his emotions. When he loses control he gets sloppy and loses focus.
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[QUOTE=DuMa]
"If they're going to play after the whistle, I'm going to defend after the whistle." --Blake Griffin :bowdown:[/QUOTE]
He needs to learn how to defend before the whistle first.
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[QUOTE=Bone Machine]He needs to learn how to defend before the whistle first.[/QUOTE]
He is. Which is why his defense is looking improved this year. Still not by any means good but effective and solid in more than half the games so far this year. You expected him to be as good as prime Michael Jordan by the start of his second season?
Like I said before.. I wish people would stop the Griffin double standard. Basically he's overrated and isn't sh**. Yet people at the same time act like by his second year he's supposed to be so much greater. Which one is it!? 23, 11 and 2.5 apg to go with improved defense? That's elite for a PF and he's going to get much better.
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I know it wont happen because of suspensions, but it'd be great to see Blake not hold back and actually retaliate against players who take him out mid-air with dirty fouls, like that devin harris clothesline.
There's only a small handful of players in the NBA who'd even stand a chance against Griffin in a fight.
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[QUOTE=BGriffin's Dad]I know it wont happen because of suspensions, but it'd be great to see Blake not hold back and retaliate against players who take him out mid-air with dirty fouls, like that devin harris clothesline.
There's only a small handful of players in the NBA who'd even stand a chance against Griffin in a fight.[/QUOTE]
I said it last year. Griffin needs to just punch somebody once or delivery a VERY hard foul once in retaliation... and it will stop. Kenyon Martin told Griffin the same thing. Stand up for yourself by knocking somebody out (like he did Karl Malone) or it will continue. If Griffin just manhandles somebody once... the rest of the league will think twice.
Sure he will get a 5+ game suspension....... but it may be worth it for the long term and WOULD extend his career greatly.
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look, I'm definitely not a fan of Blake's personality, but the second and third videos had only minor contact and were borderline "shoves" at best. The shove on Chalmers warranted a throw down, but the other two are nothing.
As a Clips fan it's hard to accept that Blake is a douche, but you don't have to be a fun guy to have a beer with to be great at basketball. TNT's newest addition Shaquille O'neal can tell you all about that.
Blake is really immature for a twenty two year old, and I expect that as he matures mentally/emotionally, his game will improve as well. Hopefully his whining, shoving, and general arrogant demeanor will lessen. Competitive drive is great-- thinking you own the world is not.
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[QUOTE=FindingTim]look, I'm definitely not a fan of Blake's personality, but the second and third videos had only minor contact and were borderline "shoves" at best. The shove on Chalmers warranted a throw down, but the other two are nothing.
As a Clips fan it's hard to accept that Blake is a douche, but you don't have to be a fun guy to have a beer with to be great at basketball. TNT's newest addition Shaquille O'neal can tell you all about that combination of traits.
Blake is really immature for a twenty two year old, and I expect that as he matures mentally/emotionally, his game will improve as well. Hopefully his whining, shoving, and general arrogant demeanor will lessen. Competitive drive is great- thinking you own the world is not.[/QUOTE]
Blake definitely is cocky and comes off as a douche on the court. They aren't paid to be likable. I personally PREFER cocky, trash talking players that will do anything to win like Blake does. If he stops going after refs and costing us defensive possessions I'll be happy. Him acting like a dick or douche though doesn't mean sh** to me.