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[QUOTE=bwink23]As if Magic's team wasn't stacked.....:facepalm[/QUOTE]
BOTH teams were stacked but Larry was the leader of the Celtics and Magic was the leader of the Lakers and Magic beat Larry 2 out of 3.And they both were in their prime, not like prime Larry going off on a rookie Pippen.
Sadly, Larry's career was cut short by his bum back and it robbed us Bulls fans from watching the Bulls kick Larry's ass in the 90's, albeit an old Larry.
[QUOTE=RRR3]:roll: :facepalm[/QUOTE]
:lol owned
[QUOTE=bwink23][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5nIsDOA9nQ[/url]
Larry Bird getting some of that delicious Brad Seller and Scottie Pippen stew, YUMMY!![/QUOTE]
This video shows exactly how bird scored. Literrally every shot he took came off a curl, or screen. Every single one. And 90% of those shot were on brad sellers. Thanx for making my case for me
Larry Bird via post play.
[QUOTE=bwink23][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmiggKJirm8[/url]
Here in 1991, Pippen isn't even guarding Larry Bird...6'10" athletic Horace Grant is....
And Bird proceeds to EAT THAT LUNCH.....:oldlol:[/QUOTE]
The 3 times that Pippen and Bird did matchup...
Bird hit a jumper, Pippen late contest
Pippen gets Bird on the switch and he blows by for a bankshot bucket.
Pippen runs the break, Bird challenges and Pippen still gets the tough bucket (up to you if you want to call that a straight 1 on 1... are we playing full or half court ?)
So they both have their advantages... Bird his size and shooting... Pippen his quickness and overall defense.
I wasn't using the "athletic" arguement there, but that advantage does belong to Pippen, yes. But Bird has other advantages to beat Pippen.
[QUOTE=97 bulls]This video shows exactly how bird scored. Literrally every shot he took came off a curl, or screen. Every single one. And 90% of those shot were on brad sellers. Thanx for making my case for me[/QUOTE]
Do i have to seriously link you to EVERY ONE of the isolated incidents that didn't involve a pick or curl ?? Do i have to do that for real?? OK, i guess i got to do it with you DENYING ass.
[QUOTE=Legends66NBA7]The 3 times that Pippen and Bird did matchup...
Bird hit a jumper, Pippen late contest
Pippen gets Bird on the switch and he blows by for a bankshot bucket.
[B]Pippen runs the break, Bird challenges and Pippen still gets the tough bucket (up to you if you want to call that a straight 1 on 1... are we playing full or half court ?)[/B]
So they both have their advantages... Bird his size and shooting... Pippen his quickness and overall defense.
I wasn't using the "athletic" arguement there, but that advantage does belong to Pippen, yes. But Bird has other advantages to beat Pippen.[/QUOTE]
Apparently you missed this....
[url]http://s304.photobucket.com/albums/nn200/nbacardDOTnet/zz%20NBA%20Photo%20Gallery/y%20NBA%20etc/1%20Boston%20Celtics/Larry%20Bird/?action=view¤t=8e3d6023.gif&sort=ascending[/url]
[QUOTE=bwink23]Do i have to seriously link you to EVERY ONE of the isolated incidents that didn't involve a pick or curl ?? Do i have to do that for real?? OK, i guess i got to do it with you DENYING ass.[/QUOTE]
Lol what am I denying? You posted the video. He did a great job comming off screens and curls. But not one shot was made by him breaking a man down in a 1 on 1 setting. Not one shot.
[QUOTE=97 bulls]This video shows exactly how bird scored. Literrally every shot he took came off a curl, or screen. Every single one. And 90% of those shot were on brad sellers. Thanx for making my case for me[/QUOTE]
Yes, Larry was not an ISO player, he had a jumpshot that was hard to stop because he shot it from behind his head but he hardly ever beat anyone to the rim on ISO.
These YouTube videos are decieving because I could make a video to make it look like Larry could take anybody off the dribble by using the few times he beat someone to the hole but that wasn't his game, I watched him from the mid 80's on.He used screens, pumped faked, shot on the move or cut to the hole, he was really good off the ball and an excellent passer, but that doesn't translate on a 1v1.
Pippen would get lit up. How is this thread even multiple pages?
[QUOTE=bwink23]Apparently you missed this....
[url]http://s304.photobucket.com/albums/nn200/nbacardDOTnet/zz%20NBA%20Photo%20Gallery/y%20NBA%20etc/1%20Boston%20Celtics/Larry%20Bird/?action=view¤t=8e3d6023.gif&sort=ascending[/url][/QUOTE]
No I didnt, I saw you post that before... but what does that have to do with that clip ?
The gif on photobucket says 1988.. the clip says 1991... and two completely different plays and players at each point in time.
I was just referring to the video clip you sent.
[QUOTE=97 bulls]Lol what am I denying? You posted the video. He did a great job comming off screens and curls. But not one shot was made by him breaking a man down in a 1 on 1 setting. Not one shot.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOTJQbRWu7g[/url]
9:30 and 11:17 of the video...i suggest you go to tjhunt1976 and watch some FULL games dude....:no:
do some guys here really insinuate that Pippen might be a better offensive player, even 1on1? The only advantage he has over Bird is athletic ability. 1on1 is way more reliant on skill than it is on athleticism.
You guys act like Bird was slow and unathletic. This is not the case. He had very quick feet, hands and great instincts. Pippen wouldn't get by him easily. Bird however wouldn't even need to get by Pippen because he could shoot over him or post him up.
I doubt anyone picking Pippen here has ever played against a skilled player 1on1.
[QUOTE=97 bulls]Lol what am I denying? You posted the video. He did a great job comming off screens and curls. But not one shot was made by him breaking a man down in a 1 on 1 setting. Not one shot.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7z7g5xPdtDE[/url]
Look at the hook shot on Charles Davis at 13 minutes...What Pippen gonna do with that?? :wtf:
[QUOTE=bwink23][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOTJQbRWu7g[/url]
9:30 and 11:17 of the video...i suggest you go to tjhunt1976 and watch some FULL games dude....:no:[/QUOTE]
Lol one play he legitly posted pippen up. The other, was off a fastbreak. Still, most of his shots were off screens and curls
[QUOTE=bwink23][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7z7g5xPdtDE[/url]
Look at the hook shot on Charles Davis at 13 minutes...What Pippen gonna do with that?? :wtf:[/QUOTE]
I also saw charles davis blow right past bird.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZ9ufyjqXXY[/url]
Larry Bird goes by Pippen at 1:40
[QUOTE=Brunch@Five]do some guys here really insinuate that Pippen might be a better offensive player, even 1on1? The only advantage he has over Bird is athletic ability. 1on1 is way more reliant on skill than it is on athleticism.
You guys act like Bird was slow and unathletic. This is not the case. He had very quick feet, hands and great instincts. Pippen wouldn't get by him easily. Bird however wouldn't even need to get by Pippen because he could shoot over him or post him up.
I doubt anyone picking Pippen here has ever played against a skilled player 1on1.[/QUOTE]
Are you watching the vids bwink is posting? They're litered with birds comming off screens and picks. There's a reason the celts offense was designed this way. Cuz bird wasn't an iso player.
[QUOTE=bwink23][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7z7g5xPdtDE[/url]
Look at the hook shot on Charles Davis at 13 minutes...What Pippen gonna do with that?? :wtf:[/QUOTE]
11:30-11:40 needs to be made into a GIF, ASAP.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEGjrTWdF24[/url]
Larry Bird sticks jumper on Pippen at 5:50
I think with what you said, with jump ball, Pippen would likely win. Even in 1s and 2s the person who can get the most lay ups and the occasional stop is the one who wins 1v1. If the game was based on each player shooting jumpers from the top of the 3 point line and the first person to miss had to be on D first then Larry would have more of a chance. Who is throwing this jump ball? lol.
I've never seen a jump ball in street ball.
-Smak
97 bulls is the biggest bulls/pippen homer on this site, don't take him too seriously on these kinds of debates.
BTW I hate these types of threads, never been a 1 v 1 guy, basketball is a team sport & Bird is superior to Pippen as a player.
[QUOTE=ILLsmak][B]I think with what you said, with jump ball, Pippen would likely win[/B]. Even in 1s and 2s the person who can get the most lay ups and the occasional stop is the one who wins 1v1. If the game was based on each player shooting jumpers from the top of the 3 point line and the first person to miss had to be on D first then Larry would have more of a chance. Who is throwing this jump ball? lol.
I've never seen a jump ball in street ball.
-Smak[/QUOTE]
Bird winning a jump ball over Hakeem.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iVQc6LSGCI&t[/url] (33:30 mark)
[QUOTE=bwink23][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZ9ufyjqXXY[/url]
Larry Bird goes by Pippen at 1:40[/QUOTE]
He didn't go by pippen. It looks like paxson was on him. The camera comes in on the play too late.
It did show pippen beat bird for an easy lay-up at the 20 second mark, and then he was about to drive on him before help defense came over.
[QUOTE=97 bulls]I'm not sure bird could beat gerald green in a game of 1 on 1.[/QUOTE]
the question is .. after reading this little gem, I don't understand why anyone is arguing with this kid ?
when you're that diluted, you can't be reasoned with
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMB4yYMA3WA[/url]
Larry Bird hitting game winner over Pippen and Jordan who was going over to give Pippen MUCH NEEDED help....at 5:50...:D
[QUOTE=ILLsmak]I think with what you said, with jump ball, Pippen would likely win. Even in 1s and 2s the person who can get the most lay ups and the occasional stop is the one who wins 1v1. If the game was based on each player shooting jumpers from the top of the 3 point line and the first person to miss had to be on D first then Larry would have more of a chance. Who is throwing this jump ball? lol.
I've never seen a jump ball in street ball.
-Smak[/QUOTE]
i thought shoot for ball would be unfair:oldlol:
cant do coint toss either :confusedshrug:
[QUOTE=bwink23][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEGjrTWdF24[/url]
Larry Bird sticks jumper on Pippen at 5:50[/QUOTE]
Lol again, he uses a screen to get open. Are you watching the same thing I am? Jesus
[QUOTE=97 bulls][B]He didn't go by pippen[/B]. It looks like paxson was on him. The camera comes in on the play too late.
It did show pippen beat bird for an easy lay-up at the 20 second mark, and then he was about to drive on him before help defense came over.[/QUOTE]
Check it again Mister DENIAL...Pippen behind Bird in the lane on the drive...you got ISSUES dude LOL!!!
[QUOTE=ILLsmak]I think with what you said, with jump ball, Pippen would likely win. Even in 1s and 2s the person who can get the most lay ups and the occasional stop is the one who wins 1v1. If the game was based on each player shooting jumpers from the top of the 3 point line and the first person to miss had to be on D first then Larry would have more of a chance. Who is throwing this jump ball? lol.
I've never seen a jump ball in street ball.
-Smak[/QUOTE]
Exactly.
[QUOTE=bwink23]Check it again Mister DENIAL...Pippen behind Bird in the lane on the drive...you got ISSUES dude LOL!!![/QUOTE]
Behind bird? He's behind parrish and fouls him when bird dishes off to him. The camera comes in too late to see how the play unfolded.
[QUOTE=97 bulls]Lol again, he uses a screen to get open. Are you watching the same thing I am? Jesus[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b57iX7KKLUg[/url]
Larry Bird shooting over the top of 7'0" Brad Sellers (LONGER than Pippen), and Scottie Pippen as well...WETNESS, too easy for Larry Legend..:cheers:
[QUOTE=dude77]the question is .. after reading this little gem, I don't understand why anyone is arguing with this kid ?
when you're that diluted, you can't be reasoned with[/QUOTE]
:oldlol:
[QUOTE=1987_Lakers]97 bulls is the biggest bulls/pippen homer on this site, don't take him too seriously on these kinds of debates.
BTW I hate these types of threads, never been a 1 v 1 guy, basketball is a team sport & Bird is superior to Pippen as a player.[/QUOTE]
I think they're arguing based on who they feel is a better player.
[QUOTE=get these NETS]97 bulls
[B]no use.....lot of so called hoop fans see bird's color[/B]...not his game strengths/weaknesses
[B]so in their mind...bird could beat one of the complete defensive players of all time[/B]...and a very good offensive player in a game of one on one... even though logic says they are wrong
again....micheal cooper locked down bird in a team game.....running through screens, picks....in a no zone era...
pippen would bother bird on defense and blow past him on offense
case closed[/QUOTE]
no smart guy .. it's the exact opposite :facepalm .. his damn color is precisely why the great larry bird is being dogged in this thread .. because he's white .. therefore he must be slow and inferior :facepalm
this thread is a classic case of the 'slow white man mentality syndrome' .. 'aw he's white, he must be slow and clumsy footed, he can't do it' .. you make up any scenario involving bird and a black player and they will automatically choose the black player ..
classic example .. the poster 97 bulls saying gerald green would beat up on larry bird .. why do you think he said that ? :hammerhead:
.. what they're too stupid to see is that bird played people who were mostly all more athletic than him and he still dominated them .. one on one too .. pippen wouldn't have it so easy 'blowing by' bird .. his quickness is mistakenly being underestimated in this thread
97 bulls confirmed for most biased/delusional poster I've ever seen on an internet forum.
Gerald Green over Larry Bird in 1 on 1. :facepalm
[QUOTE=bwink23][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b57iX7KKLUg[/url]
Larry Bird shooting over the top of 7'0" Brad Sellers (LONGER than Pippen), and Scottie Pippen as well...WETNESS, too easy for Larry Legend..:cheers:[/QUOTE]
Its brad sellers you moron. He's a friggn stiff just a taller one how long did he stay in the league? I don't believe your centering your argument around brad sellers.
And once again you show a clip of bird having to be chased through a screen. Screens and curls aren't isos
[QUOTE=97 bulls]Again, these are pros. Even more hofers, even more than that all-time great hofers. You can't just give a guy like pippen open space. He's gonna make it. Especially if birds gonna give him the jumpshot. And with pippens footspeed, bird would need to give a lot of ground.
And why would pippen negate his advantage by trying to back down bird? Makes no sense.[/QUOTE]
This. An NBA player is an NBA player. They can hit jump shots like throwing a raisin in a pool when uncontested and without NBA Game defense/atmosphere. They practice that shit daily. Larry cant just back off Pippen, and neither can Pippen off Larry. They would need to play tight D. It comes to who is the best 1on1 player.
Who is?
But then again, Pippen has an advantage with his D, right.
[QUOTE=Pushxx]97 bulls confirmed for most biased/delusional poster I've ever seen on an internet forum.
Gerald Green over Larry Bird in 1 on 1. :facepalm[/QUOTE]
I said, I'm not sure bird could beat green. Don't you understand birds gonna have to play defense too.
Id give an edge to bird cuz I don't think green is much of a dribbler. And has no jumshot. He'd back off him and dare him to shoot and stay on his right hand.
They are both legends, the competitive will be even. Even the best players have lost 1-on-1 battles to much lesser competition, not that Pippen is way less than Bird. Even if they played 5 on 5 and had to guard each other I wouldn't know who to choose.