List of players over 7 foot, 230 pounds in Wilt's time

[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]more tall tails from Wilt fans

"he would block all of Bynum's shots"

sure, sure believe that
[B]50" vertical
20,000 women
beat up mountain lion
[/B]dunks freethrows
yada yada yada[/QUOTE]
We never bring that up. When yall guys start loosing arguments yall try the art of distraction and go that route. Its a desperation move and you do it all the time. Count how many times you and your boys have brought it up. Its pathetic.

[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]If he was in the league in the 60s, people would say Wilt who?[/QUOTE]


It was the same way for him in the 2000's in his prime.

[QUOTE=Pointguard]We never bring that up. When yall guys start loosing arguments yall try the art of distraction and go that route. Its a desperation move and you do it all the time. Count how many times you and your boys have brought it up. Its pathetic.[/QUOTE]


Of course....that's what children do. :cry:

[QUOTE=-23-]Don't get me wrong, he's a phenomenal athlete. I can't stand retards who claim he can FT dunk from 3 steps. You'd think one person at the time would be like "hey, this guy did something [B]I've never seen before, I should take a picture". [/B]I take all these Wilt claims with a grain of salt.[/QUOTE]

:lol And that would work for you. You aren't the sharpest knife in the drawer are you.

[QUOTE=Pointguard]We never bring that up. When yall guys start loosing arguments yall try the art of distraction and go that route. Its a desperation move and you do it all the time. Count how many times you and your boys have brought it up. Its pathetic.[/QUOTE]
It's because you guys keep bring up fairy tales
"he dunked from the freethrow line" and "he would block all of Bynum's attempts"


Mel Counts - 7'0", 230 lbs (career 6.0 RPG)
Swede Halbrook - 7'3" 235 lbs (played only 2 seasons)

that is the list, how am I "losing" anything?

[QUOTE=bwink23]Of course....that's what children do. :cry:[/QUOTE]
just stop Bryan

[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]It's because you guys keep bring up fairy tales
"he dunked from the freethrow line" and "he would block all of Bynum's attempts"


Mel Counts - 7'0", 230 lbs (career 6.0 RPG)
Swede Halbrook - 7'3" 235 lbs (played only 2 seasons)

that is the list, how am I "losing" anything?[/QUOTE]
Once again, the freethrow line reference is [B]Shown Here [/B]by one the most respected and successful guys in modern day basketball. A guy that was in basketball for 60years and will be in the HOF.

When I say loosing I mean people bringing up that its always about quality and never about height, weight or physical attributes. Its only about a combination of quality, skills and attitude.

[QUOTE=Pointguard]Once again, the freethrow line reference is [B]Shown Here [/B]by one the most respected and successful guys in modern day basketball. A guy that was in basketball for 60years and will be in the HOF.

When I say loosing I mean people bringing up that its always about quality and never about height, weight or physical attributes. Its only about a combination of quality, skills and attitude.[/QUOTE]
Sorry size matters. It just does.
Doesn't matter how skilled a great defender is if he's 3-5" shorter and 20-50 lbs lighter it's hard to contest shots effectively

btw it's losing not loosing

[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]Sorry size matters. It just does.
Doesn't matter how skilled a great defender is if [B]he's 3-5" shorter and 20-50 lbs lighter it's hard to contest shots effectively
[/B]
btw it's losing not loosing[/QUOTE]


Yet you sight Ben Wallace as "being a match" for Shaq......:no:

:facepalm children, what are you gonna do.

[QUOTE=bwink23]Yet you sight Ben Wallace as "being a match" for Shaq......:no:

:facepalm children, what are you gonna do.[/QUOTE]
look at Ben Wallace's body(no homo), that's one exception , oh and he's 240 lbs..probably even more than that

Bryan, will he ever learn?

As why I never rate Wilt over Kobe, Shaq, KAJ, Magic or Bird....and obviously Jordan.

[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]look at Ben Wallace's body(no homo), that's one exception , oh and he's 240 lbs..probably even more than that

Bryan, will he ever learn?[/QUOTE]


Wallace was giving away 80+ pounds to Shaq......:no:

That's like Wilt being guarded a 210-pound guy...

KIDS :hammerhead:

[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]Sorry size matters. It just does.
Doesn't matter how skilled a great defender is if he's 3-5" shorter and 20-50 lbs lighter it's hard to contest shots effectively

btw it's losing not loosing[/QUOTE]

8 of the last 10 DPOY awards were under 6'11. 20 of the last 27 were 6'10 and under. The multiple winners were smaller centers DH, B Wallace, Alonzo, Hakeem, Rodman. With only Deek as the only multiple 7 footer winning - a 13 to 4 disparity in favor of the smaller centers. So you're loooosin mo' ground in your argument.

[QUOTE=Pointguard]8 of the last 10 DPOY awards were under 6'11. 20 of the last 27 were 6'10 and under. The multiple winners were smaller centers DH, B Wallace, Alonzo, Hakeem, Rodman. With only Deek as the only multiple 7 footer winning - a 13 to 4 disparity in favor of the smaller centers. So you're loooosin mo' ground in your argument.[/QUOTE]


Are you saying Vlade Divac wasn't a Defensive Player of the Year?? That's CRAZY!!! :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=Pointguard]8 of the last 10 DPOY awards were under 6'11. 20 of the last 27 were 6'10 and under. The multiple winners were smaller centers DH, B Wallace, Alonzo, Hakeem, Rodman. With only Deek as the only multiple 7 footer winning - a 13 to 4 disparity in favor of the smaller centers. So you're loooosin mo' ground in your argument.[/QUOTE]
Howard - 240 lbs
Hakeem - 255 lbs
Wallace - 240 lbs
Mutombo - 245 lbs
Mourning - 240 lbs

No player in Wilt's time weighed over 235 lbs

[QUOTE=bwink23]Wallace was giving away 80+ pounds to Shaq......:no:

That's like Wilt being guarded a 210-pound guy...

KIDS :hammerhead:[/QUOTE]
Wallace is stronger than any player that played in that era

[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]Howard - 240 lbs
Hakeem - 255 lbs
Wallace - 240 lbs
Mutombo - 245 lbs
Mourning - 240 lbs

No player in Wilt's time weighed over 235 lbs[/QUOTE]


AGAIN...how is this any different than Shaquille Oneal, who had 60-80 pounds on those guys??

[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]Wallace is stronger than any player that played in that era[/QUOTE]


That means NOTHING going against Shaq....Shaq's size and strength makes Ben look like a BUG.

[QUOTE=bwink23]AGAIN...how is this any different than Shaquille Oneal, who had 60-80 pounds on those guys??[/QUOTE]
There are so many 7 footers in Shaq's era, he had a weight advantage but not a height one all the time,most teams have a 7 footer

Haven't read this thread, but in fairness there were like 8 teams back then.

8 * 12 = 96 players in the league
30 * 12 - 360 players in the league

Still, I would have expected a few more.

[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]Howard - 240 lbs
Hakeem - 255 lbs
Wallace - 240 lbs
Mutombo - 245 lbs
Mourning - 240 lbs

No player in Wilt's time weighed over 235 lbs[/QUOTE]

Didn't realize til you put it here... but 250lbs (as that is the more honest weight) is the perfect weight for DPOY. Ha, if you think your boy is going to be 245 -250 pounds, make sure you teach him sound defensive fundamentals. Lebron does have a chance.

Duece in the 60's slim was moreso the style. People didn't have access to gyms so they weren't buff and they just didn't eat much.

Seriously lets be real here Wilt fans, the 60s did not have the bigger players like they do now, or the stronger players, just admit this.

[QUOTE=Pointguard]Duece in the 60's slim was moreso the style. People didn't have access to gyms so they weren't buff and they just didn't eat much.[/QUOTE]
Most of it is natural growth, I've seen plenty of young teenagers already be big when their like 14

[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]Seriously lets be real here Wilt fans, the 60s did not have the bigger players like they do now, or the stronger players, just admit this.[/QUOTE]


Shaq in his prime was basically a bigger, modern-day Wilt Chamberlain as far as size goes....i already told you the listed heights of those players is inaccurate in today's game cuz they were measured without shoes. Bill Russell was closer to 6-11 than 6-9....

Everyone knows players today are heavier and stronger due to advancements in training and nutrition....which means if Wilt were playing today, he's be an even BIGGER monster....he'd be taking all the "supplements", eating the food, getting the rest, getting the training, getting the therapy...he would have started advanced training in high school and thru college before ever hitting the NBA.

So your partially right....players are heavier and stronger, and Wilt would have been even BETTER as well.

[QUOTE=bwink23]Shaq in his prime was basically a bigger, modern-day Wilt Chamberlain as far as size goes....i already told you the listed heights of those players is inaccurate in today's game cuz they were measured without shoes. Bill Russell was closer to 6-11 than 6-9....

Everyone knows players today are heavier and stronger due to advancements in training and nutrition....which means if Wilt were playing today, he's be an even BIGGER monster....he'd be taking all the "supplements", eating the food, getting the rest, getting the training, getting the therapy...he would have started advanced training in high school and thru college before ever hitting the NBA.

So your partially right....players are heavier and stronger, and Wilt would have been even BETTER as well.[/QUOTE]
Today, it would neutralize him, he wouldn't stand out as the big guy anymore and have an easy time.

[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow][B]Most of it is natural growth,[/B] I've seen plenty of young teenagers already be big when their like 14[/QUOTE]


Did you see the transition that players made to the weight room in the early 1990's?? Players got bigger easily. Look at Jordan, Pippen, Rodman before and after weight training, and that was in their late 20's. There's no genetic difference in humans in the 60's and now that made them incapable of putting on weight.

[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]Today, it would neutralize him, [B]he wouldn't stand out as the big guy anymore and have an easy time.[/QUOTE][/B]


You mean like Shaq did in the 2000's, requiring constant double and triple teams to contain him??? :rolleyes:

I thought it was common knowledge players were measured flat footed and their rookie weights are listed in the record books. Its like listing Kobe 6'5 1/2'' and 190 pounds or Dwight 6'9'' 240 which is his predraft workout size. Guysl ike Wayne Embry are listed literally 60 pounds short of reality in their primes. Nate Thurmond was listed as being 2 inches taller but 10 pounds lighter than Kevin Durant.

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Anyone else find that unlikely?

[QUOTE=Kblaze8855]I thought it was common knowledge players were measured flat footed and their rookie weights are listed in the record books. Its like listing Kobe 6'5 1/2'' and 190 pounds or Dwight 6'9'' 240 which is his predraft workout size. Guysl ike Wayne Embry are listed literally 60 pounds short of reality in their primes. Nate Thurmond was listed as being 2 inches taller but 10 pounds lighter than Kevin Durant.

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Anyone else find that unlikely?[/QUOTE]




Kevin Durant is way more muscular than that....:rolleyes:

[QUOTE=Kblaze8855]I thought it was common knowledge players were measured flat footed and their rookie weights are listed in the record books. Its like listing Kobe 6'5 1/2'' and 190 pounds or Dwight 6'9'' 240 which is his predraft workout size. Guysl ike Wayne Embry are listed literally 60 pounds short of reality in their primes. Nate Thurmond was listed as being 2 inches taller [B]but 10 pounds lighter than Kevin Durant.[/B]

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Anyone else find that unlikely?[/QUOTE]
Thurmond is listed at 225, Durant 215
Durant is under 200 in real life

[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]Thurmond is listed at 225, Durant 215
Durant is under 200 in real life[/QUOTE]


And you would know that, HOW??? :rolleyes:

KIDS.

[QUOTE=bwink23]And you would know that, HOW??? :rolleyes:

KIDS.[/QUOTE]
the kid is a long toothpick Bryan

[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]Thurmond is listed at 225, Durant 215
Durant is under 200 in real life[/QUOTE]


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[QUOTE=Lebron23][url]http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/kevin-durant-390/[/url][/QUOTE]
lets be honest though, does he look anywhere near 215?

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235 on all 3.

And I assure you...in 30 years....people will assume it was what the NBA listed. Which is exactly why topics like this exist. Those weights are just not reality.

[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]lets be honest though, does he look anywhere near 215?[/QUOTE]


He probably gained some weight. Durant was only an 18 yrs.old kid back in 2007.

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2007 Kevin Durant

6'9" 215 lbs

[img]http://www.officialpsds.com/images/thumbs/Kevin-Durant-psd74200.png[/img]

2012 Kevin Durant

6"10-6'10.5" 230-235 lbs

[QUOTE=SilkkTheShocker]The funny part is how some posters will defend these scrub 50s players like they were some type of Gods. Prime Bill Russell in todays league is playing for the D-league[/QUOTE]

The guy could jump out of the gym are you kidding me?:roll: :facepalm

[QUOTE=Clippersfan86]Very bad example dude. Shaq played in the greatest center era in NBA history.... the 90's and even early 00's. Hakeem, Robinson, Mutumbo, Smits, Daughtery, Wallace, Sabonis, Ewing, Zo etc were all in their prime... list goes on. The average center of the 90's would be a starting center today most likely.

Even if Wilt was only two or three inches taller than these players on average.. him outweighing them by 70+ pounds on average is a HUGE advantage.[/QUOTE]

Plus those guys were weak and not talented....except Bellamy and Russell.

Damn I am feeling old.....I watched those guys play :eek:

[QUOTE=DKLaker]Plus those guys were weak and not talented....except Bellamy and Russell.

Damn I am feeling old.....I watched those guys play :eek:[/QUOTE]
So was that era weaker?