The official jlauber and Wilt Chamberlain thread

[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]You said Russell would be Ben Wallace in today's league, and Russell won 11 rings in Wilt's era. So you tell me.

And lol @ being stronger than Ben Wallace[/QUOTE]

And CHANGED my opinion long ago. Part of it though, was the fact that I didn't see Russell play before the '64 season. In the last half of his career, he cut back his scoring and shooting. BUT, he was a FAR greater offensive player than Wallace.

As for Wallace being stronger than Wilt. I believe Wallace benched 465. There are eye-witness accounts of Chamberlain benching that at age 59. And, the internet is PLASTERED with links giving Wilt a 500 lb bench.

So, yes, Chamberlain was better at EVERY aspect of the game than Wallace, even in FT shooting. And his IMPACT at the line was even better than Bynum's. So, here again, Wilt was better at EVETY facet of the game than Bynum too. And that doesn't even include the fact that Bynum could blow up his knee while brushing his teeth.

[QUOTE=jlauber]And CHANGED my opinion long ago. Part of it though, was the fact that I didn't see Russell play before the '64 season. In the last half of his career, he cut back his scoring and shooting. BUT, he was a FAR greater offensive player than Wallace.

As for Wallace being stronger than Wilt. I believe Wallace benched 465. There are eye-witness accounts of Chamberlain benching that at age 59. And, the internet is PLASTERED with links giving Wilt a 500 lb bench.

So, yes, Chamberlain was better at EVERY aspect of the game than Wallace, even in FT shooting. And his IMPACT at the line was even better than Bynum's. So, here again, Wilt was better at EVETY facet of the game than Bynum too. And that doesn't even include the fact that Bynum could blow up his knee while brushing his teeth.[/QUOTE]
Wilt can also
jump 50" off the ground
run a 4.6 40 yard dash
dunk so hard on opponent that it crushed his toes

yes, yes we know this :oldlol::facepalm

[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]Wilt can also
jump 50" off the ground
[B]run a 4.6 40 yard dash[/B]dunk so hard on opponent that it crushed his toes

yes, yes we know this :oldlol::facepalm[/QUOTE]


Easily a 40" veritcal, and at nearly 7-2, with a 7-8 wingspan, and he was probably the highest reaching NBA player ever.

That 4.6 is interesting. None other than Hank Stram clocked him at 4.6 in a tryout for the Chiefs in the mid-60's. Wilt was 27 at the time, and weighed 290 lbs. Chamberlain, himself, claims to have run a [B]4.4[/B] which is not really that unbelieveable, considering he was around 250 lbs when he was a member of KU's 4x100 relay team at age 20.

As for the "breaking of toes"...here again, take it up with Johnny Kerr. He is the one who made that comment...NOT Wilt.

[QUOTE=jlauber]Shredded this nonsense...[/QUOTE]

So why haven't you addressed the bit on Wilt being outscored by Sam Jones...in EVERY game 7 vs Boston?

1962: Wilt scored 22 pts; Jones scores 28 pts (Wilt's 50.4 ppg season)
1965: Wilt scored 30 pts; Jones scores 37 pts
1968: Wilt scored 14 pts; Jones scores 22 pts
1969: Wilt scored 18 pts; Jones scores 24 pts (and it was his last career NBA game. :oldlol:)

Bottom line: Where was he in those game 7's?

[QUOTE=jlauber][B]Easily a 40" veritcal[/B], and at nearly 7-2, with a 7-8 wingspan, and he was probably the highest reaching NBA player ever.

That 4.6 is interesting. None other than Hank Stram clocked him at 4.6 in a tryout for the Chiefs in the mid-60's. Wilt was 27 at the time, and weighed 290 lbs. Chamberlain, himself, claims to have run a [B]4.4[/B] which is not really that unbelieveable, considering he was around 250 lbs when he was a member of KU's 4x100 relay team at age 20.

As for the "breaking of toes"...here again, take it up with Johnny Kerr. He is the one who made that comment...NOT Wilt.[/QUOTE]
His head never gets near the rim in any video and the dude is 7'2"

[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]His head never gets near the rim in any video and the dude is 7'2"[/QUOTE]

Thanks to Cavs Fan


[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EpVZS26BUs[/url]

[QUOTE=kuniva_dAMiGhTy]So why haven't you addressed the bit on Wilt being outscored by Sam Jones...in EVERY game 7 vs Boston?

1962: Wilt scored 22 pts; Jones scores 28 pts (Wilt's 50.4 ppg season)
1965: Wilt scored 30 pts; Jones scores 37 pts
1968: Wilt scored 14 pts; Jones scores 22 pts
1969: Wilt scored 18 pts; Jones scores 24 pts (and it was his last career NBA game. :oldlol:)

Bottom line: Where was he in those game 7's?[/QUOTE]
OUCH

[QUOTE=jlauber]Thanks to Cavs Fan


[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EpVZS26BUs[/url][/QUOTE]
Are...You..For real?

:oldlol:

[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]Are...You..For real?

:oldlol:[/QUOTE]

BTW, none other than TEX WINTER claims that a high school Wilt (and not yet fully grown) was taking three steps behind the FT line, and dunking the ball with a leap from behind the line. In fact, he was so stunned, that he organized the rule committee and they subsequently banned the dunking of FTs because of "freakish activity."

And both Sonny Hill, a well respected Philly sports icon, and long time Sixer trainer, Al Domenico claimed that a mid-60's Wilt touched the top of the backboard.

[QUOTE=jlauber]BTW, none other than TEX WINTER claims that a high school Wilt (and not yet fully grown) was taking three steps behind the FT line, and dunking the ball with a leap from behind the line. In fact, he was so stunned, that he organized the rule committee and they subsequently banned the dunking of FTs because of "freakish activity."

And both Sonny Hill, a well respected Philly sports icon, and long time Sixer trainer, Al Domenico claimed that a mid-60's Wilt touched the top of the backboard.[/QUOTE]
"This is completely true, I've read it in an art book"

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01GWCMGEsUw&feature=player_detailpage#t=10s[/url]

[QUOTE=jlauber]Easily a 40" veritcal, and at nearly 7-2, with a 7-8 wingspan, and he was probably the highest reaching NBA player ever.

That 4.6 is interesting. None other than Hank Stram clocked him at 4.6 in a tryout for the Chiefs in the mid-60's. Wilt was 27 at the time, and weighed 290 lbs. Chamberlain, himself, claims to have run a [B]4.4[/B] which is not really that unbelieveable, considering he was around 250 lbs when he was a member of KU's 4x100 relay team at age 20.

As for the "breaking of toes"...here again, take it up with Johnny Kerr. He is the one who made that comment...NOT Wilt.[/QUOTE]


hand timed 4.4 is more like 4.55 at the nfl combine. two very different thing. so 4.4 by 7ft 1 dude? highly unlikely. someone in NFL board calculated Usain bolt's 9.58 run and he ran 40 yard in 4.32.

i don't believe there is anybody in NBA who runs legit 4.4. i would say only guys like AI, westbrook, rose are 4.4 if they train really hard for it. i have to guess wilt would run 4.7s in today's NFL combine. and that's still plenty fast.

[QUOTE=jlauber]Thanks to Cavs Fan


[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EpVZS26BUs[/url][/QUOTE]


i've already discredited the legitimacy of that video in other thread. he hands are nowhere near 13ft.

[QUOTE=Linspired]i've already discredited the legitimacy of that video in other thread. he hands are nowhere near 13ft.[/QUOTE]
The man thinks Wilt dunked from the freethrow line..and not only that, he did it with just a couple of steps. It's no use talking logic about Wilt's mythical abilities with him.

[QUOTE=Linspired]i've already discredited the legitimacy of that video in other thread. he hands are nowhere near 13ft.[/QUOTE]

YES...it is.

I would guesstimate at about 12' 10". And without a running start, and using his off-hand.

[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]"This is completely true, I've read it in an art book"

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01GWCMGEsUw&feature=player_detailpage#t=10s[/url][/QUOTE]

I'm sorry but :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]The man thinks Wilt dunked from the freethrow line..and not only that, he did it with just a couple of steps. It's no use talking logic about Wilt's mythical abilities with him.[/QUOTE]

Take it up with TEX WINTER you moron. And, while you are at it, ask him why he went to so much trouble to legislate a ban of the dunking of FTs.

[QUOTE=Linspired]hand timed 4.4 is more like 4.55 at the nfl combine. two very different thing. so 4.4 by 7ft 1 dude? highly unlikely. someone in NFL board calculated Usain bolt's 9.58 run and[B] he ran 40 yard in 4.32[/B].

i don't believe there is anybody in NBA who runs legit 4.4. i would say only guys like AI, westbrook, rose are 4.4 if they train really hard for it. i have to guess wilt would run 4.7s in today's NFL combine. and that's still plenty fast.[/QUOTE]

Completely off-topic, but...

So Bolt is slower than perhaps 20+ NFL players who have been electronically timed in the 4.2's?

[QUOTE=jlauber]YES...they are.

I would guesstimate at about 12' 10". And without a running start, and using his off-hand.[/QUOTE]

wilt doesn't have an alien finger. his finger in that footage looks like 10 inch long

this really is not a good evidence.
[IMG]http://tinyurl.com/bp7mydz[/IMG]

no doubt wilt displayed tremendous leaping ability for a 7ft 1 man, but again he didn't come close to 13ft

[QUOTE=Linspired]wilt doesn't have an alien finger. his finger in that footage looks like 10 inch long[/QUOTE]

In any case, it is clearly an amazing leap. I watched Dwight Howard on Sport Science "break" Shaq's supposed record of 12' 5", with a running start, and on his second attempt...with a leap of 12' 6". Clearly, a younger Chamberlain (who was a part-time high-jump CHAMPION, as well as a long-jumper, triple-jumper, and sprinter), at nearly 7-2, and with a 7-8 wingspan, would have EASILY topped that "record."

[QUOTE=jlauber]Completely off-topic, but...

So Bolt is slower than perhaps 20+ NFL players who have been electronically timed in the 4.2's?[/QUOTE]

yes. in first 40 yards. bolt is 6ft 5 and he is all about top speed.

only 11 players officially ran under 4.3.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/40-yard_dash[/url]

holiday & ford are legit olympic level sprinters.

[QUOTE=Linspired]yes. in first 40 yards. bolt is 6ft 5 and he is all about top speed.

only 11 players officially ran under 4.3.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/40-yard_dash[/url]

holiday & ford are legit olympic level sprinters.[/QUOTE]

At the COMBINE. Many players have been clocked in the 4.2's in their CAREERs. Reggie Bush was timed at 4.28 while at USC. Just one of many examples.

And, I am SURE that Darrell Green, Bob Hayes, Bo Jackson, Deion, and other's would have easily been in the 4.2's.

[QUOTE=jlauber]In any case, it is clearly an amazing leap. I watched Dwight Howard on Sport Science "break" Shaq's supposed record of 12' 5", with a running start, and on his second attempt...with a leap of 12' 6". Clearly, a younger Chamberlain (who was a part-time high-jump CHAMPION, as well as a long-jumper, triple-jumper, and sprinter), at nearly 7-2, and with a 7-8 wingspan, would have EASILY topped that "record."[/QUOTE]

dwight howard also had to dunk the ball. he probably could've squeezed another inch or two if he didn't have to worry about dunking the ball. wilt is 7ft 1.06 inch tall. he is 7ft 1, not 7ft 2.

and no, james white holds the mythical record of 12ft 10 inches according to this article
[url]http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/4307/james-white-vs-a-jumping-myth[/url]

[QUOTE=Linspired]yes. in first 40 yards. bolt is 6ft 5 and he is all about top speed.

only 11 players officially ran under 4.3.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/40-yard_dash[/url]

holiday & ford are legit olympic level sprinters.[/QUOTE]

You have no idea what you are talking about. Bolt is not known for his great starts, he would not be a great 40 yard dash runner in comparison to fast NFL players. His speed in the 100m kicks in around 30-40m mark, when his long strides take over. It's not surprising at all that NFL players can run faster than him in the 40, which is all about explosiveness at the start.


Michael Jordan was timed at 4.3 in the 40 in college. That doesn't mean he would ever beat Bolt in the 100m though.

[QUOTE=Linspired]dwight howard also had to dunk the ball. he probably could've squeezed another inch or two if he didn't have to worry about dunking the ball. wilt is 7ft 1.06 inch tall. he is 7ft 1, not 7ft 2.

and no, james white holds the mythical record of 12ft 10 inches according to this article
[url]http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/4307/james-white-vs-a-jumping-myth[/url][/QUOTE]

Dwight Howard was NOT dunking the ball in that Sports Science show. He gave it everything he had and on his second attempt, with a long running start, hit 12' 6". Chamberlain was eclipsing that in that video, and with no time to react, and with going straight up (and withOUT benefit of a running start.) BTW, Chamberlain was known to have dunked a ball on a 12' foot rim.

[QUOTE=Linspired]dwight howard also had to dunk the ball. he probably could've squeezed another inch or two if he didn't have to worry about dunking the ball. wilt is 7ft 1.06 inch tall. he is 7ft 1, not 7ft 2.

and no, james white holds the mythical record of 12ft 10 inches according to this article
[url]http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/4307/james-white-vs-a-jumping-myth[/url][/QUOTE]

No, James White holds NO "mythical record" albeit, he had a higher vertical leap than just about every legitimate NBA player. We have no "official" attempts by Wilt or Russell.

[QUOTE=Sarcastic]You have no idea what you are talking about. Bolt is not known for his great starts, he would not be a great 40 yard dash runner in comparison to fast NFL players. His speed in the 100m kicks in around 30-40m mark, when his long strides take over. It's not surprising at all that NFL players can run faster than him in the 40, which is all about explosiveness at the start.


Michael Jordan was timed at 4.3 in the 40 in college. That doesn't mean he would ever beat Bolt in the 100m though.[/QUOTE]

Actually, I think that was exactly what Linspired was saying.

[QUOTE=Linspired]dwight howard also had to dunk the ball. he probably could've squeezed another inch or two if he didn't have to worry about dunking the ball. wilt is 7ft 1.06 inch tall. he is 7ft 1, not 7ft 2.

and no, james white holds the mythical record of 12ft 10 inches according to this article
[url]http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/4307/james-white-vs-a-jumping-myth[/url][/QUOTE]

Anyway...it's bedtime here at the "home", and have to get off the internet before they pull the plug. Enjoyed the discussions.

[QUOTE=jlauber]At the COMBINE. Many players have been clocked in the 4.2's in their CAREERs. Reggie Bush was timed at 4.28 while at USC. Just one of many examples.

And, I am SURE that Darrell Green, Bob Hayes, Bo Jackson, Deion, and other's would have easily been in the 4.2's.[/QUOTE]

and none of them are official. i really don't care about unofficial numbers. i'm certain those guys can run 4.3 or below, but again i've never seen them do it. there is no record of it.

and combine 40 is a totally different animal. many who runs disappointing numbers at the combine runs better at their pro day. they shave off at least .05 to .1 sec. maybe combine grass is slow, but that's the standard NFL goes by. holiday is a midget who is known for his fast start ran 4.29. a legit track dude. his best 100m was 10.01 sec. ford too. tall guys have hard time doing well in combine. that's why calvin johnson is considered a freak. his 4.33 to me is the most impressive combine 40 dash of all time.

[QUOTE=jlauber]Hakeem's TEAMMATES badly outplayed Shaq's. For all of your nonsense about how little help Hakeem had, he had SAMPSON reducing Kareem's effectiveness in the '86 WCF's, and Thorpe shooting a huge percenatge while outrebounding Hakeem himself in the '94 Finals, and then he had his TEAMMATES collectively outshooting Shaq's in FG%, 2 3pt % and by a huge point differential at the foul line, in a series in which, Shaq scored 28 ppg on, get this... .595 shooting (contrast that with Kareem shooting .457, and only .414 over the course of his last FOUR games of the '72 WCF's), as well as outrebounding, outassisting, and outblocking Hakeem in that series.
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Haha, again a pile of crap.
Shaq's teammates got outplayed by Hakeem's, yes, but why are you making such a huge deal of it? Hakeem still outplayed Shaq.

And haha, that you even mention that fact is pathetic considering the fact that Wilt's teammates in '72 outplayed Kareem's by a big margin.

And I never said that Hakeem had little help in '86, you idiot, and in '86 the Rockets faced two teams with much more talent a la the showtime Lakers and the Boston Celtics.

And wow, how retarded are you really? So you mean that Hakeem had huge help in '94 just because Thorpe averaged 9.3 points per game on 52%. And haha, is 52% a huge percentage for a guy who averages 9.3 points? Hakeem himself averaged 26.9 points on 50 FG% while he was doubled and tripled the series out. And Thorpe averaged 2 more rebounds per game, so you're really trying to point out the the massive help Hakeem had by mentioning a guy who averaged 9 points and 11 rebounds?

It's funny how you use stats, everyone but you says that Hakeem outplayed Shaq in '95. And you of all people use stats to prove it, while you spam constantly about how Kareem got killed in '72 playoffs while outscoring Wilt with 23 points per game, outassisting Wilt and while shooting FT's twice as good. You're really retarded.

[QUOTE=jlauber]
And I get sick-and-tired of those that use Shaq's absolute dominance in second half over Hakeem, in a loss, as some kind of excuse. Hakeem was hanging on for dear life.
[/QUOTE]

Second half of game 3 was garbage time, you idiot, the game was over. Shaq got his points in garbage time, I know you're a huge fan of statpadding but Shaq got outplayed in game 3.

[QUOTE=jlauber]
Of course, idiots like yourself also NEVER mention that Shaq BADLY outplayed Hakeem in their ENTIRE career H2H's, and especially in the '99 post-season. A young Shaq gets no excuse, even though YOU have used it in defense of HAKEEM (against Kareem), and then, you NEVER bring up a more PRIME Shaq just murdering Hakeem. BUT, you will point out a PRIME Kareem outscoring an OLD Wilt, playing on a surgically repaired knee in the '72 WCF's...and in series in which it was UNIVERSALLY accepted that Wilt outplayed Kareem.
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Yeah, Hakeem got outplayed in '99 season when Shaq was in his prime and Hakeem was....... 36 years old, haha. This ain't even about Shaq vs Hakeem, not even about Wilt vs Hakeem, it is you being a hypocrite and how you use stats to prove a point but go the opposite direction when it comes to stats and when it's about another player.


[QUOTE=jlauber]
This from the same CLOWN who, in all seriousness, claimed that Bynum would have dominated Wilt.

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm[/QUOTE]

Again you're mentioning Bynum vs Wilt, I have time after time made it clear for you that I was trolling you and still you're spamming about it just because you try to belittle me. It's not working, retard.

millwad, give up. You sound like an absolute fool.

[QUOTE=Raz]millwad, give up. You sound like an absolute fool.[/QUOTE]

Exactly what is wrong with what I just wrote?

You're a clown, dude, you've had your head in Jlauber's ass since you joined ISH with your new crappy account and you've followed my ass as well while trying to correct me with moral stupid lessons.

Get a life, seriously, tired of you already, you average 40 posts per day and you try to get involved in every single discussion on ISH. You even told that you were leaving the site, please do so, mr 40 posts per day. You've written 1/3 of the posts I've written in 5 years on ISH, in one month, who are you to tell anyone to leave a discussion.

[QUOTE=jlauber]No, James White holds NO "mythical record" albeit, he had a higher vertical leap than just about every legitimate NBA player. We have no "official" attempts by Wilt or Russell.[/QUOTE]

We do have video evidence of him scraping anywhere from 12'9" - 12'11", it may not be official, but in my eyes he hold the record.

[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElTzC2M34cY"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElTzC2M34cY[/URL]

[QUOTE=jlauber]No, James White holds NO "mythical record" albeit, he had a higher vertical leap than just about every legitimate NBA player. We have no "official" attempts by Wilt or Russell.[/QUOTE]

yes he does hold 'mythical record'. it's not official, but there is article written about it, and there is a pretty damn convincing video footage.

wilt could jump 20ft high but it was never recorded, so doesn't count. and that awful video analysis doesn't count. we will never know how high he got up there from that footage.

[QUOTE=Linspired]yes he does hold 'mythical record'. it's not official, but there is article written about it, and there is a pretty damn convincing video footage.

wilt could jump 20ft high but it was never recorded, so doesn't count. and that awful video analysis doesn't count. we will never know how high he got up there from that footage.[/QUOTE]

Now, you have seen Wilt's block in that one game, and in which he had no time to react, goes straight up, and tips the ball with his off-hand. Just how much higher would Wilt have reached with a full-speed running start from near half-court, and using his normal hand? (And like BOTH Howard and White...give him multiple attempts, too.)

[QUOTE=jlauber]Now, you have seen Wilt's block in that one game, and in which he had no time to react, goes straight up, and tips the ball with his off-hand. Just how much higher would Wilt have reached with a full-speed running start from near half-court, and using his normal hand? (And like BOTH Howard and White...give him multiple attempts, too.)[/QUOTE]

we don't know for sure if wilt has a better max vert than standing vert. most likely he does, but again we will never know. many NFL players have better standing vert than max vert because they trained to jump with 2 legs all the time with their massive thighs. tim tebow is a great example. instead of using 1 powerful leg, he uses 2 powerful leg. many wrestlers are also better standing vert leaper. i too am better 2 foot leaper. tyson chandler has 33.5 max vert, and 31 standing vert. that's only 2.5 inch advantage.

and that footage is just too blurry and wilt is too far from the backboard. it could easily be a camera angle trick. there are many supposed 'head over the rim' shot by bron, griffin and etc but usually it's a bad camera angle enhancements.

i have not seen 40 inch vert in any of the wilt pictures. 40 inch vert is noticeable. it's rare. i don't get that kinda vibe from wilt. IMO, wilt's max vert is anywhere from 33 - 36 inch range. that's still elite for 7ft 1 man.

[QUOTE=Linspired]we don't know for sure if wilt has a better max vert than standing vert. most likely he does, but again we will never know. many NFL players have better standing vert than max vert because they trained to jump with 2 legs all the time with their massive thighs. tim tebow is a great example. instead of using 1 powerful leg, he uses 2 powerful leg. many wrestlers are also better standing vert leaper. i too am better 2 foot leaper. tyson chandler has 33.5 max vert, and 31 standing vert. that's only 2.5 inch advantage.

and that footage is just too blurry and wilt is too far from the backboard. it could easily be a camera angle trick. there are many supposed 'head over the rim' shot by bron, griffin and etc but usually it's a bad camera angle enhancements.

i have not seen 40 inch vert in any of the wilt pictures. 40 inch vert is noticeable. it's rare. i don't get that kinda vibe from wilt. IMO, wilt's max vert is anywhere from 33 - 36 inch range. that's still elite for 7ft 1 man.[/QUOTE]

There has been too many eye-witness accounts, and even measurements (George Kiseda measured Wilt with a leap in a hospital in which Chamberlain touched the ceiling, at 42") to suggest that Wilt "only had a 33-36 vertical.)

Furthermore, one of the running jokes here was that there was no footage of a spectacular leap by Chamberlain (until CavsFan came up with that footage)...BUT, I have long maintained that Wilt seldom had to make a max effort. Was he supposed to block shots with his head or chest? Furthermore, Wilt played in some 1200 NBA games, as well as over 40 college games...and all we have is a few total hours of footage. Surely Chamberlain made MANY spectacular plays in his career...albeit, with no footage. Billy Cunningham claims to have witnessed a Wilt block, in which he blocked a shot taken from near the corner, in which Chamberlain came from the other side of the lane, and blocked it at it's apex. Wilt was called for goal-tending on the play, and his coach jumped up to complain to the ref. The ref came over and said, "We both know what we just witnessed was a physical impossibility."

[QUOTE=jlauber]There has been too many eye-witness accounts, and even measurements (George Kiseda measured Wilt with a leap in a hospital in which Chamberlain touched the ceiling, at 42") to suggest that Wilt "only had a 33-36 vertical.)

Furthermore, one of the running jokes here was that there was no footage of a spectacular leap by Chamberlain (until CavsFan came up with that footage)...BUT, I have long maintained that Wilt seldom had to make a max effort. Was he supposed to block shots with his head or chest? Furthermore, Wilt played in some 1200 NBA games, as well as over 40 college games...and all we have is a few total hours of footage. Surely Chamberlain made MANY spectacular plays in his career...albeit, with no footage. Billy Cunningham claims to have witnessed a Wilt block, in which he blocked a shot taken from near the corner, in which Chamberlain came from the other side of the lane, and blocked it at it's apex. Wilt was called for goal-tending on the play, and his coach jumped up to complain to the ref. The ref came over and said, "We both know what we just witnessed was a physical impossibility."[/QUOTE]

for sure his 6ft 6 high jump footage is nowhere near 40 inch. if he has 40 inch vert, he would be jumping 7ft 6, not 6ft 6. and that block footage really is a bad footage. i really can't make any sense out of that footage. he could be anywhere from 12ft to 12ft 8 inch. just not clear evidence of his leaping ability.

did he mildly jump all his career? maybe
leap like this is no more than 25 inch. still great for a big man with surgically repaired knee
[IMG]http://i.ebayimg.com/t/KAREEM-ABDUL-JABBAR-AUTOGRAPHED-SIGNED-BUCKS-16X20-VS-WILT-CHAMBERLAIN-LAKERS-/00/s/NDEyWDMyNQ==/$(KGrHqV,!lEE7scsZ5ZcBPJtU5UhCQ~~60_12.JPG[/IMG]

this would probably be 30-32 inch vert. impressive for a big man
[IMG]http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17idokci98sjqjpg/original.jpg[/IMG]


i haven't seen a legit 40 inch by anybody over 7ft. definitely not from wilt.

this is charles woodson and he has 36 1/2 inch vert.
[IMG]http://www.annarbor.com/assets_c/2012/05/UMFB_Woodson_97_NationalTitle-thumb-590x406-112418.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-5wszdlNDefA/T1fF_DSZemI/AAAAAAAAARM/0pDSyiDsV3Q/s1600/wtzfbcthecatch2102597.gif[/IMG]


and we can rule out 50 inch vertical for sure because 50 inch vertical looks like this. this dude is 5ft 9 vertical trainer.
[IMG]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__azJmr6urTQ/Sx7AzHVAJ-I/AAAAAAAAAAk/6Xlel4bUrO0/s320/ac_barch.jpg[/IMG]

[QUOTE=Linspired]for sure his 6ft 6 high jump footage is nowhere near 40 inch. if he has 40 inch vert, he would be jumping 7ft 6, not 6ft 6. and that block footage really is a bad footage. i really can't make any sense out of that footage. he could be anywhere from 12ft to 12ft 8 inch. just not clear evidence of his leaping ability.

did he mildly jump all his career? maybe
leap like this is no more than 25 inch. still great for a big man with surgically repaired knee
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this would probably be 30-32 inch vert. impressive for a big man
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i haven't seen a legit 40 inch by anybody over 7ft. definitely not from wilt.

this is charles woodson and he has 36 1/2 inch vert.
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I believe Shaq was measured at 36" and he was nowhere near the leaper Chamberlain was (even in Wilt's LAST season.) BTW, Chamberlain coached the Conquistadors in the '74 season, and in a practice, the ball got hung up in a guidewire. None of the players could reach it, including a young 6-11 Caldwell Jones. Chamberlain showed up late, and in a suit-and-tie. He asked what was going on, and when they replied, he said something along the lines "put your money on the floor." He took off his shoes, and to their amazement, he easily tapped the ball down. He was 37 years old at the time.

i honestly don't know why you are feeding us these stories. these stories are just stories. you can just choose to believe it or not.

and i actually don't believe everything i read. and who knows if shaq faked his standing reach? i can 'fake' my standing reach. anybody can. basically you can cheat your vertical. i really never understood this method. it's not accurate simply because you can half a$$ your standing reach. shaq's 9ft 5 reach could easily be 9ft 7 and that means his vert is 34 inch.

shaq may have a legit 36 inch vert when he was young, but that means he had better vert than blake and dwight. i do think dwight worked his vert up to 38 inch. but he entered the league with 35 1/2 inch vert.

i don't think you can say this kinda dunk is nowhere near wilt's dunk.
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wilt's
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wilt has never shown me 40 inch leap in any of his footage. shaq has never shown me 36 inch leap either. maybe they can, but i guess i'm a skeptical person.

[QUOTE=Linspired]yes he does hold 'mythical record'. it's not official, but there is article written about it, and there is a pretty damn convincing video footage.

wilt could jump 20ft high but it was never recorded, so doesn't count. and that awful video analysis doesn't count. we will never know how high he got up there from that footage.[/QUOTE]


Doug Thomas touched 13 feet -
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbVJ1IvYkaI[/url]

They set up a bell 13 feet high next to the backboard, he rang it.