[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zK8asU1kuFM[/url]
lol Kobe forgot this though!
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[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zK8asU1kuFM[/url]
lol Kobe forgot this though!
I think if Kobe took a shit on a supermarket floor his many stans (as seen in this thread) would still defend him.
[QUOTE=NASH = BEST]LOL :oldlol:
We were all mad hating on Kobe back then, he didn't even come close to Nash votes, WTF?
I'm not saying Nash shouldn't have won but geez, wasn't this the year Kobe went APE SHYT on the league? This was the 81 point game season right?
4th place? lol
Truth is he should have gotten more votes. Looking back at it now and the media really did hate on Kobe back then. Most of them sided with Shaq. We were all wrong, lol.
Anyways, I got curious and looked Smush Parker up.
This is from wiki...
Smush should be grateful he was even able to collect a check cause of Kobe.[/QUOTE]
But here it is, where you have idiotic know nothing about basketball bandwagon Lebron fans aka Lebronytes, trying to act like Parker was some top talent guy and Kobe drove him out of the NBA by blacklisting him. Anybody who truly knows basketball already knows Smush wasn't that great of a player. People trying to say otherwise, are just ret**ded haters nobody takes seriously anyways:facepalm
[QUOTE=AlphaWolf24]sounds good.....
1 more Chip and Kobe moves to the #2 or #3 for me......and the rest of the basketball community[/QUOTE]
:cheers:
[QUOTE][b]Kobe's Facebook[/b]
Leadership is responsibility.
There comes a point when one must make a decision. Are YOU willing to do what it takes to push the right buttons to elevate those around you? If the answer is YES, are you willing to push the right buttons even if it means being perceived as the villain? Here's where the true responsibility of being a leader lies. Sometimes you must prioritize the success of the team ahead of how your own image is perceived. The ability to elevate those around you is more than simply sharing the ball or making teammates feel a certain level of comfort. It's pushing them to find their inner beast, even if they end up resenting you for it at the time.
I'd rather be perceived as a winner than a good teammate. I wish they both went hand in hand all the time but that's just not reality. I have nothing in common with lazy people who blame others for their lack of success. Great things come from hard work and perseverance. No excuses.
This is my way. It might not be right for YOU but all I can do is share my thoughts. It
^ Kobe sure does have a great writing style. He should write a book. Everyone writes a book these days, but his book would actually be somewhat interesting.
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[QUOTE=D.J.]Kobe was a big time diva back then, so Smush isn't inaccurate with what he's saying. Kobe was very difficult to deal with. In regards to Smush's play, playing with Kobe made him look relevant. He got open looks because Kobe was double teamed almost the second he touched the ball, sometimes even triple teamed[B]His point production more or less doubled. He never averaged more than 6 PPG at any other point and the season after he left the Lakers was his last.[/B]. [/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.nba.com/historical/playerfile/index.html?player=smush_parker[/url]
Averaged 6.4 with the Clips in 21.5 minutes and then 5.9 in 21.1 minutes. Not to mention, more dimes as he got the ball more in his hands and less turnovers.
While Parker was not starter material, he was far from one of the worst starting point guards in the league since 2000. I mean, studs like Rick Brunson and Doug Overton have had starting roles in the league.
As far as this "feud" goes, a lot of what both are saying is stupid, but entertaining. I'd say the posts in here are much more entertaining though :oldlol:
The people defending Kobe are pathetic, smh...So all you grown men in here are ok with somebody constantly talking shit about you for no reason and you wouldn't defend yourselves...And we all know there have been much worse players in the NBA than Smush Parker..only Kobe stans would agree with him...and I'm sure the context of his comment about Smush not being able to talk to him is anytime...This is the same guy Kobe who told Kyrie Irving that he would barely be able to dribble with Kobe on him..Kyrie is one of the best ball handlers in the league and NOBODY can lock him down 1 on 1...and I saw highlights of that same game, Kyrie splitting defenders and having Kobe reaching for air...
[QUOTE=kurple]this is why i cant respect kobe.[/QUOTE]
I agree...
[QUOTE=9512]Yet another reason why athletes are getting too much special treatment.
Imagine having a co worker like Kobe in your office, never talking to you because he thinks he is too good to talk to you. Or throwing another co worker under the bus for whatever politics going on between them two.
Seriously, if he wasn't a basketball player, Kobe would be perpetually unemployed with his attitude.[/QUOTE]
Best post in the thread...
No lie, Ive read all 9 pages of this thread and 95% of the people making excuses for Kobe have Laker avatars, Laker screen names, or location California, rofl...while people on the other side of the argument, are from everywhere and fans of different teams, lol...yet we're all Jordan stans...God Kobe fans are annoying...Do any of you not see the world through purple and yellow glasses...If Kobe's attitude doesn't make you dislike him, his fans surely will..
[QUOTE=qrich][url]http://www.nba.com/historical/playerfile/index.html?player=smush_parker[/url]
Averaged 6.4 with the Clips in 21.5 minutes and then 5.9 in 21.1 minutes. Not to mention, more dimes as he got the ball more in his hands and less turnovers.[/QUOTE]
The 5.9 in 21.1 was his season average in '08. He also averaged 1.9 turnovers in that Clipper stint, which is pretty much even with his Laker averages despite playing in a good 10 fewer minutes.
[QUOTE]While Parker was not starter material, he was far from one of the worst starting point guards in the league since 2000. I mean, studs like Rick Brunson and Doug Overton have had starting roles in the league.[/QUOTE]
Numbers don't tell the whole story. Was Parker the worst player in the league? No, but he wasn't much better either. Even if Brunson and Overton didn't provide as much statistically, they at least provided veteran leadership so there were at least some intangibles they brought to the team. Smush provided nothing other than an empty 10 points, which a lot of it was because of the attention Kobe commanded. Smush was also a low IQ player who made many dumb mistakes. That's why he was out of the league just a year removed from the Lakers while Brunson and Overton both lasting around a decade or more.
[QUOTE]As far as this "feud" goes, a lot of what both are saying is stupid, but entertaining. I'd say the posts in here are much more entertaining though :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
Both made valid points, but both were also highly immature. I'd be equally frustrated if my best teammate after Lamar Odom was Smush Parker. Kobe leading that team to 45 wins was a miracle.
I just don't understand how anybody can talk about Kobe's teammates being bad and in the same breath try to compare him to MJ.....MJ had played with players would not even been in the league at that time if they weren't playing for the Bulls, Stacy King, an old Bill Cartwright, Luc Longley, Bill Wennington, Will Perdue, Randy Brown, are you guys serious with this. I mean all those comparison's should stop if we're down to making excuses about the talent level of Kobe's teams. Kobe has played on more talented teams than Jordan EVER did..Jordan WAS the talent with some Pippen and Rodman mixed in...Everyone else was a role player or probably a 12th man on most teams..
[QUOTE=Dro]Kobe has played on more talented teams than Jordan EVER did[/QUOTE]
During his second set of titles, yes. For the 3-peat, no chance. Outside of Shaq, he had Derek Fisher, an old Ron Harper, Glen Rice, Horace Grant, Slava Medvedenko, Devean George, Rick Fox.
[QUOTE=Dro]I just don't understand how anybody can talk about Kobe's teammates being bad and in the same breath try to compare him to MJ.....MJ had played with players would not even been in the league at that time if they weren't playing for the Bulls, Stacy King, an old Bill Cartwright, Luc Longley, Bill Wennington, Will Perdue, Randy Brown, are you guys serious with this. I mean all those comparison's should stop if we're down to making excuses about the talent level of Kobe's teams. Kobe has played on more talented teams than Jordan EVER did..Jordan WAS the talent with some Pippen and Rodman mixed in...Everyone else was a role player or probably a 12th man on most teams..[/QUOTE]
This thread is about Smush Parker and kobe Bryant. Smush Parker isn't in the league and he hasn't been in it since he left La.. So what is your point in this thread? You have none.. He was just as scrub a teammate as anyone Jordan ever had.
[QUOTE=Dro]The people defending Kobe are pathetic, smh...So all you grown men in here are ok with somebody constantly talking shit about you for no reason and you wouldn't defend yourselves...And we all know there have been much worse players in the NBA than Smush Parker..only Kobe stans would agree with him...and I'm sure the context of his comment about Smush not being able to talk to him is anytime...This is the same guy Kobe who told Kyrie Irving that he would barely be able to dribble with Kobe on him..Kyrie is one of the best ball handlers in the league and NOBODY can lock him down 1 on 1...and I saw highlights of that same game, Kyrie splitting defenders and having Kobe reaching for air...[/QUOTE]
:cry:
Smash Who?
[QUOTE=Dro]The people defending Kobe are pathetic, smh...So all you grown men in here are ok with somebody constantly talking shit about you for no reason and you wouldn't defend yourselves...And we all know there have been much worse players in the NBA than Smush Parker..only Kobe stans would agree with him...and I'm sure the context of his comment about Smush not being able to talk to him is anytime...This is the same guy Kobe who told Kyrie Irving that he would barely be able to dribble with Kobe on him..Kyrie is one of the best ball handlers in the league and NOBODY can lock him down 1 on 1...and I saw highlights of that same game, Kyrie splitting defenders and having Kobe reaching for air...[/QUOTE]
I would hope you aren't grouping me with them. All I said is that's who Kobe is. Never said anything about it being ethical. It's a grown man world, no room for catching feelings.
And the Kyrie thing is trash talk. Again, this is Kobe Bryant, the superstar, ultra confident athlete. Not like he's going to say "Yes, Kyrie would own me 1 on 1". I doubt I would here anything different from guys like LeBron James, Dwyane Wade, Carmelo Anthony, Kevin Garnett, etc...
[QUOTE=tpols]This thread is about Smush Parker and kobe Bryant. Smush Parker isn't in the league and he hasn't been in it since he left La.. So what is your point in this thread? You have none.. He was just as scrub a teammate as anyone Jordan ever had.[/QUOTE]
Umm...that IS the point...that Kobe's teammates aren't any worse than anyone elses so AGAIN, why is he obsessed with Smush....Are your purple and yellow glasses so thick that you can't see you're making my point? And AGAIN, why are Laker fans the ONLY ones who support Kobe with this nonsense..I guess its because EVERYONE else is a hater and they're picking on Kobe:rolleyes: Poor Kobe..:facepalm
[QUOTE=Legends66NBA7]I would hope you aren't grouping me with them. All I said is that's who Kobe is. Never said anything about it being ethical. It's a grown man world, no room for catching feelings.
[B]And the Kyrie thing is trash talk[/B]. Again, this is Kobe Bryant, the superstar, ultra confident athlete. Not like he's going to say "Yes, Kyrie would own me 1 on 1". I doubt I would here anything different from guys like LeBron James, Dwyane Wade, Carmelo Anthony, Kevin Garnett, etc...[/QUOTE]
No, I'm not grouping you with them but you can't tell me that its hard not to group all Laker fans together when seemingly 95% of the posts in every Kobe thread, they rationalize everything he does...But about the Kyrie thing, that was more than trash talk to me..I watched it multiple times and Kobe was so serious, he was taking it personal..Kyrie was responding back to him like "are you serious"? Like, he thought Kobe had to be joking for how serious was taking it...Kobe wasn't just trash talking, he's really arrogant enough to believe that Kyrie would not be able to dribble against him..You can tell by the tone of his words, and the seriousness..at no point was Kobe laughing like ha, ha, I'm just messing with you bro...He was dead serious...
[QUOTE=Dro]No, I'm not grouping you with them [B][U]but you can't tell me that its hard not to group all Laker fans together when seemingly 95% of the posts in every Kobe thread, they rationalize everything he does.[/U][/B]..But about the Kyrie thing, that was more than trash talk to me..I watched it multiple times and Kobe was so serious, he was taking it personal..Kyrie was responding back to him like "are you serious"? Like, he thought Kobe had to be joking for how serious was taking it...Kobe wasn't just trash talking, he's really arrogant enough to believe that Kyrie would not be able to dribble against him..You can tell by the tone of his words, and the seriousness..at no point was Kobe laughing like ha, ha, I'm just messing with you bro...He was dead serious...[/QUOTE]
If you're going to continue to come up in here with sock puppet accounts, at least try to say something different. The bolded, refers way more to Lebron fans than it can ever apply to Laker/Kobe fans, no matter how many times you post that. Nice try:applause:
[QUOTE=Dro]I just don't understand how anybody can talk about Kobe's teammates being bad and in the same breath try to compare him to MJ.....MJ had played with players would not even been in the league at that time if they weren't playing for the Bulls, Stacy King, an old Bill Cartwright, Luc Longley, Bill Wennington, Will Perdue, Randy Brown, are you guys serious with this. I mean all those comparison's should stop if we're down to making excuses about the talent level of Kobe's teams. Kobe has played on more talented teams than Jordan EVER did..Jordan WAS the talent with some Pippen and Rodman mixed in...Everyone else was a role player or probably a 12th man on most teams..[/QUOTE]
You're just as bad as Laker fans. While we're in agreement that Parker was better than laker fans give credit, you're nuts if you feel Kobe had better teammates than Jordan. After Shaq, id take Pippen and Rodman over any teammate Bryant has had. And Kukoc and Grant would ne high on the list too
[B]Everyone here does know Smush Trashed Kobe first.(2009)..... right?[/B]
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7adyWRtWoFM"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7adyWRtWoFM[/URL]
Its not like "out of the blue" Kobe goes off on Smush.
Personally, if I were Kobe, I would have never responded at all.
[QUOTE=Dro]No, I'm not grouping you with them but you can't tell me that its hard not to group all Laker fans together when seemingly 95% of the posts in every Kobe thread, they rationalize everything he does...But about the Kyrie thing, that was more than trash talk to me..I watched it multiple times and Kobe was so serious, he was taking it personal..Kyrie was responding back to him like "are you serious"? Like, he thought Kobe had to be joking for how serious was taking it...Kobe wasn't just trash talking, he's really arrogant enough to believe that Kyrie would not be able to dribble against him..You can tell by the tone of his words, and the seriousness..at no point was Kobe laughing like ha, ha, I'm just messing with you bro...He was dead serious...[/QUOTE]
Hmm, I'll actually to re-watch that video again... I can see where Kobe can be too arrogant, I just think that's his nature and I'm not really too surprised by it.
Oh and cool, I didn't think my previous OP was defending him, but I see what you mean (Lakers fans and all).
[QUOTE=LakersReign]If you're going to continue to come up in here with sock puppet accounts, at least try to say something different. The bolded, refers way more to Lebron fans than it can ever apply to Laker/Kobe fans, no matter how many times you post that. Nice try:applause:[/QUOTE]
What in the hell is sock puppet account:confusedshrug: Sorry I don't have 10,000 posts...I only posts when I feel like it..I have a life outside of inside hoops...sorry...Lol at you trying to separate yourself from Lebron fans...Yes they are bad and Kobe fans are equally bad...:facepalm Kobe would never need any bodyguards the way some of you hang from his *******...quick to come running to defend your idol anytime someone doesn't kiss his azz....
[QUOTE=Dro]What in the hell is sock puppet account:confusedshrug: Sorry I don't have 10,000 posts...I only posts when I feel like it..I have a life outside of inside hoops...sorry...Lol at you trying to separate yourself from Lebron fans...Yes they are bad and Kobe fans are equally bad...:facepalm Kobe would never need any bodyguards the way some of you hang from his *******...quick to come running to defend your idol anytime someone doesn't kiss his azz....[/QUOTE]
(yawn):sleeping
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?p=7857761#post7857761[/url]
[QUOTE=pauk]...and oh Lebron robbed Wade of FMVP? [B][U]No... considering my assessment its actually Wade who robbed Lebron/Miami of a Championship because he didnt want to give Lebron the greenlight he openly gave to him in 2012[/U][/B].... he turned Lebron into a sidekick in the Finals, into a true 2nd fiddle, because thats how Lebron was playing... he didnt play bad, he didnt shoot bad, he only facilitated and took few shots... like a true Scottie Pippen would do.... and thats NOT LEBRON....[/QUOTE]
Nice try:applause:
lol in all reality i think they are both right....
kobe has always had teammate problems and never really supported his team.....
smush was never really relevant - except i think he made a name for himself at rucker park or sumthing.
[QUOTE=LakersReign](yawn):sleeping
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?p=7857761#post7857761[/url]
Nice try:applause:[/QUOTE]
Still lost but whatever floats your boat:confusedshrug:
[QUOTE=Dro]Still lost but whatever floats your boat:confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
So....what you're saying is....other than your OBVIOUS blind Kobe hatred, you never had a real point here in the first place? Big surprise:rolleyes:
[QUOTE=Dro]No, I'm not grouping you with them but you can't tell me that its hard not to group all Laker fans together when seemingly 95% of the posts in every Kobe thread, they rationalize everything he does...But about the Kyrie thing, that was more than trash talk to me..I watched it multiple times and Kobe was so serious, he was taking it personal..Kyrie was responding back to him like "are you serious"? Like, he thought Kobe had to be joking for how serious was taking it...Kobe wasn't just trash talking, he's really arrogant enough to believe that Kyrie would not be able to dribble against him..You can tell by the tone of his words, and the seriousness..at no point was Kobe laughing like ha, ha, I'm just messing with you bro...He was dead serious...[/QUOTE]
1v1 is much different than 5v5.
[QUOTE=Eat Like A Bosh]Smash Who?[/QUOTE]
right, who is this guy?
[QUOTE=kingkeno]1v1 is much different than 5v5.[/QUOTE]
He was talking 1v1 but what difference does it make...Im sure Kyrie would be able to dribble...
[QUOTE=LakersReign]So....what you're saying is....other than your OBVIOUS blind Kobe hatred, you never had a real point here in the first place? Big surprise:rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
Yes, my OBVIOUS hatred for Kobe because I point out how he is an arrogant jackass...Im sure I hate all players like that, not just Kobe...So like I said, hop off his sack for a second. My first sentence in my first post is my point, that the people defending Kobe are pathetic and I explained why I felt this way...:facepalm
[QUOTE=Dro]Yes, my OBVIOUS hatred for Kobe because I point out how he is an arrogant jackass...Im sure I hate all players like that, not just Kobe...So like I said, hop off his sack for a second. My first sentence in my first post is my point, that the people defending Kobe are pathetic and I explained why I felt this way...:facepalm[/QUOTE]
Just gotta love it how, in true ret**d fashion, when you were exposed as a fraud, in my last post, your only response was "duh....I'm lost." You're not fooling anybody. GTFOH:roll: [COLOR="White"](AND...cue the bullsh*t "crazy" gimmick)[/COLOR]
Smush is uttering blasphemy. May the great gawdbe smite down the heretic with furious anger.
[QUOTE=hipballinjigga]
Kobe "told me out his own mouth that I couldn't talk to him. That my accolades under my belt weren't deserving enough for me to talk to him."
[/QUOTE]
:roll: :roll: :roll:
Love Kobe!
TMZ would never spend a second of their time talking to this b*tch Smush if Kobe didn't bring him up...I'm sure he's thanking Kobe in his mind.
[QUOTE=LakersReign]Just gotta love it how, in true ret**d fashion, when you were exposed as a fraud, in my last post, your only response was "duh....I'm lost." You're not fooling anybody. GTFOH:roll: [COLOR="White"](AND...cue the bullsh*t "crazy" gimmick)[/COLOR][/QUOTE]
Exposed as a fraud? You are as delusional as Kobe:roll: :cheers: Oh and nice rep...
[QUOTE=Dro]Exposed as a fraud? You are as delusional as Kobe:roll: :cheers: Oh and nice rep...[/QUOTE]
Bro just ignore that guy. There's no need to try and have a civiliazed conversation with him.
[QUOTE=Dro]Exposed as a fraud? You are as delusional as Kobe:roll: :cheers: Oh and nice rep...[/QUOTE]
Guess we all can't be as "normal"as you seeing some "hidden agenda"in Kobe saying flat out Smush sucked and should've never been in the NBA. Oh and by the way,read the white text in my last post. OOPS!!!! :roll:
One of the most annoying things on ISH is when people accuse someone of being an alternate account of a poster they dislike if said person says something they disagree with. The arrogance to think that not more than one person could possibly disagree with you! :lol