I love Lin but the hype is out of hand. Dude should be working on his jumpshot instead of doing GQ shoots and doing tours. :facepalm
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I love Lin but the hype is out of hand. Dude should be working on his jumpshot instead of doing GQ shoots and doing tours. :facepalm
[QUOTE=plUto or bUst]I love Lin but the hype is out of hand. Dude should be working on his jumpshot instead of doing GQ shoots and doing tours. :facepalm[/QUOTE]
just becuase one does a GQ shoot doesnt mean hes not working on his jumpshot. :facepalm
[QUOTE=plUto or bUst]I love Lin but the hype is out of hand. Dude should be working on his jumpshot instead of doing GQ shoots and doing tours. :facepalm[/QUOTE]
How dat haterade taste, brah? :D
[QUOTE=SevereUpInHere]Hardly a rant, but regardless. If he does well, good for him, it won't keep me up at night. If he stinks it up, whatever too. Our owner may suck, but he made the right call not paying $15m in the final year or Lin's contract. And I though that even before his recent performances.
Nice subject change there too, oh cool, tell me more about how the Knicks suck, the Rockets are sure to dominate this season. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
The Rockets have a bright future; unlike the knicks. And Dolan didn't make the right move with Lin--he was out-negotiated. Learn the difference.
[QUOTE=DuMa]just becuase one does a GQ shoot doesnt mean hes not working on his jumpshot. :facepalm[/QUOTE]
When was he? Before summer when he wasn't healthy enough? After the two day camp with the Knicks teammates where he left to go to the ESPY's instead of the Select Team like he was supposed to? His tour of Taiwan which was covered pillar to post where he visited different places every day? When he came back and said his knee isn't healthy enough? (It's funny, i bitched he ditched the Olympic team and was planning a trip to Taiwan, little did i know he wasn't our problem anyway.)
I'm sure Lin worked on his game, but he spent a lot of time brand building this offseason. I'm curious how this would have played in NY, because the rumbling from the Rocket fans is doubt about Lin's work ethic and toughness. Which is about 180 from what you'd expect, even if it's small rumblings.
[QUOTE=niko]When was he? Before summer when he wasn't healthy enough? After the two day camp with the Knicks teammates where he left to go to the ESPY's instead of the Select Team like he was supposed to? His tour of Taiwan which was covered pillar to post where he visited different places every day? When he came back and said his knee isn't healthy enough? (It's funny, i bitched he ditched the Olympic team and was planning a trip to Taiwan, little did i know he wasn't our problem anyway.)
I'm sure Lin worked on his game, but he spent a lot of time brand building this offseason. I'm curious how this would have played in NY, because the rumbling from the Rocket fans is doubt about Lin's work ethic and toughness. Which is about 180 from what you'd expect, even if it's small rumblings.[/QUOTE]
in the offseason, you wont really know what a player does or not until you see his resulting play in the regular season. so its stupid to judge him now for little shit like for missing Select Team practice when you dont know really if he was still healthy to play at the time. who knows what else he was doing in the offseason or what he wasnt doing. its not fair to judge him on that criteria when no one else is judged on that same criteria.
so to judge lin based on a couple preseason games is judging him unfairly at the moment.
[QUOTE=DuMa]in the offseason, you wont really know what a player does or not until you see his resulting play in the regular season. so its stupid to judge him now for little shit like for missing Select Team practice when you dont know really if he was still healthy to play at the time. who knows what else he was doing in the offseason or what he wasnt doing. its not fair to judge him on that criteria when no one else is judged on that same criteria.
so to judge lin based on a couple preseason games is judging him unfairly at the moment.[/QUOTE]
He spent a summer traveling and doing appearances. He spent weeks in Taiwan. He skipped the select team. He wasn't training hard all day every day, how could he? When?
He was training when he was travelling, plenty of videos showing that
But training and practising is not the same as playing NBA level games
[QUOTE=niko]He spent a summer traveling and doing appearances. He spent weeks in Taiwan. He skipped the select team. He wasn't training hard all day every day, how could he? When?[/QUOTE]
there is no wrong or right way to train in the offseason. however you want to judge it, theres no right or wrong way.
[QUOTE=DuMa]GQ still believes in the Lingend!
[IMG]http://blog.chron.com/ultimaterockets/files/2012/10/2cover-441x600.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
didn't know they made spandex suit pants
Haters like you will twist anything around into a negative. That's what haters do. If he had stayed in palo alto and trained non-stop, haters like you would have claimed he was a recluse and was ignoring his int'l fans, implying he's arrogant and aloof.
The problem is your hatred and jealousy of someone who is successful on a scale you can't even fathom. Yet you attach yourself to him like a leech, criticizing him to get some attention you can't get from anything you've achieved yourself, since you have no talent and have achieved nothing. :D
[QUOTE=niko]When was he? Before summer when he wasn't healthy enough? After the two day camp with the Knicks teammates where he left to go to the ESPY's instead of the Select Team like he was supposed to? His tour of Taiwan which was covered pillar to post where he visited different places every day? When he came back and said his knee isn't healthy enough? (It's funny, i bitched he ditched the Olympic team and was planning a trip to Taiwan, little did i know he wasn't our problem anyway.)
I'm sure Lin worked on his game, but he spent a lot of time brand building this offseason. I'm curious how this would have played in NY, because the rumbling from the Rocket fans is doubt about Lin's work ethic and toughness. Which is about 180 from what you'd expect, even if it's small rumblings.[/QUOTE]
Why happened to "wait and see" instead of pretending to be experts and spell doom and gloom for Lin? :confusedshrug:
Lin is such a polarized figure on this forum.:roll:
we can judge him tonight.
If he was a Knick the fact he took did the Linsanity worldwide branding tour wouldn't be seen as training. Let's be real. And don't give me "YOU ARE JUST SAYING THIS BECAUSE HE LEFT", i was saying the same thing when he left the Select team and was on the ESPY's with Tebow.
Who rehabs an injury and trains by traveling the world and doing commercials?
IMO he should have played a full season and established himself before doing the branding thing. But then again it maybe he'll be more focused this season by getting all that stuff out of the way in the offseason. We'll see how it plays out but I'm expecting Lin to establish himself as a solid point guard this season with the potential to get to all star level in a few more seasons.
Jeremy will get better.
Niko is full of hate though....
I predict Jeremy's stats to be half way through the season:
15 PPG
7 Assists
4 Rebounds
2 Steals
Then it'll drop off, as I don't think he can maintain the long season
11ppg
6 assist
3 rebounds
1 steal
I'm not hating, i'm being honest. And i was complaining when i thought he was coming back. He has too many distractions and he doesn't see a need to trim them down. Again, he spent the whole offseason traveling, and then came back to Houston and said he doesn't feel 100%. If he was the Knicks starting PG and did that i'd be annoyed.
His knee is still heaLIN
:no: we're still on this? super mario gawdmers ended linsanity way back in february
Ficking hate chalmers. Cocky mofo...he wouldn't be anything on another team, wade and bron made him. :mad:
Although I have to acknowledge his big cojones for wanting and making big shots. :applause:
i wouldnt even know about him if he had played for the Rockets all the time.
lin thinks hes derrick rose:facepalm
Lin played pretty well today, he's getting it back,
there are going to be a lot of crow eaters once the season starts :dancin
12 assists?
[QUOTE=nathanjizzle]12 assists?[/QUOTE]
6pts(3/7) 12ast 5reb 3st 1to
Just had a good all round game except for the jump shots. He just controls the flow of the game.
Had 2 shots hit, a 3 and jumper that were not counted because of a Asik moving screen.
So he could have had a double double
Most importantly they beat a playoff team with a tanking team :basketball
edit - correct line
27 mins, 7 points (3/9 fga, 0/2 ft) 12 assists, 5 rebounds, 4 steals, 1 TO (ball bounced off Asik's foot)
1 miss was a hack across the arm, with no call
[QUOTE=BlitzForce]6pts(3/7) 12ast 5reb 3st 1to
Just had a good all round game except for the jump shots. He just controls the flow of the game.
Had 2 shots hit, a 3 and jumper that were not counted because of a Asik moving screen.
So he could have had a double double
Most importantly they beat a playoff team with a tanking team :basketball[/QUOTE]
The reason or the main reasons we won were Martin who is in spectacular form and Patrrick Patterson. Lin wasnt all that good . Stop exagerrating
[QUOTE=spiegel]The reason or the main reasons we won were Martin who is in spectacular form and Patrrick Patterson. Lin wasnt all that good . Stop exagerrating[/QUOTE]
So who the da fark passed them the ball? :biggums:
:facepalm
Typical stat junkie. I suggest you start watching these games. Martins 12 first quarter points and pats second quarter along with Douglas and Delfinos 4th quarters were more instrumental. Out of Martins 12 points 1 of those assists were from lin. out of pats points only 2 or 3 at most from Lin.
Lin was 3-9 and 0-3 from the pt line.He had an airball in all of that as well. Did he play better then his first few games? by gorge he did, but he was'nt the reason or the only reason. Will he improve? Probaly he will because he cant be this bad after his showing in NY unless it was a fluke.
[QUOTE=stevieming]Jeremy will get better.
Niko is full of hate though....
I predict Jeremy's stats to be half way through the season:
15 PPG
7 Assists
4 Rebounds
2 Steals
That sounds about right.I could see him maybe even averaging 8 assists or more.
[QUOTE=spiegel]Typical stat junkie. I suggest you start watching these games. Martins 12 first quarter points and pats second quarter along with Douglas and Delfinos 4th quarters were more instrumental. Out of Martins 12 points 1 of those assists were from lin. out of pats points only 2 or 3 at most frokm Lin.[/QUOTE]
I watched most of the game. Lin made good passes, a lot of them leading to the guys being open all alone or in a good position to score
So the 4 steals and the other disruptions Lin caused doesn't help?
C'mon man, BBall is a lot more than scoring!
If Lin did not run the offence, the results would be very different.
I can see Martin jacking it up and shooting them out of the game - see Dallas game....
It's sad how people embrace something so much one minute and turn on that thing the next. Saw it big time with Griffin last year now people are turning on Lin. Not only is he a great guy it seems but a hard worker who will still be a very good PG for years to come. Without Mike D'Antoni coaching him and letting him run the team with that freedom he will probably never put up those 25, 10 type games again but he can absolutely be a nice 15/7 and 3-4 type of player and a borderline all star.
[QUOTE=BlitzForce]I watched most of the game. Lin made good passes, a lot of them leading to the guys being open all alone or in a good position to score
So the 4 steals and the other disruptions Lin caused doesn't help?
C'mon man, BBall is a lot more than scoring!
If Lin did not run the offence, the results would be very different.
I can see Martin jacking it up and shooting them out of the game - see Dallas game....[/QUOTE]
He played ok, but he wasnt the main reason the team won. His defense was alot better as was his distribution. His turnovers was low and he did a good job. However he is nowhere near what we expected he will be. Maybe as the season rolls he will get there.
[QUOTE=spiegel]He played ok, but he wasnt the main reason the team won. His defense was alot better as was his distribution. His turnovers was low and he did a good job. However he is nowhere near what we expected he will be. Maybe as the season rolls he will get there.[/QUOTE]
During the Linsanity run, he did not shoot well every game either. But he ran the offense controlled the tempo and pulled off the win with clutch plays.
[QUOTE=Clippersfan86]It's sad how people embrace something so much one minute and turn on that thing the next. Saw it big time with Griffin last year now people are turning on Lin. Not only is he a great guy it seems but a hard worker who will still be a very good PG for years to come. Without Mike D'Antoni coaching him and letting him run the team with that freedom he will probably never put up those 25, 10 type games again but he can absolutely be a nice 15/7 and 3-4 type of player and a borderline all star.[/QUOTE]
For the first time ever, I agree with you 100%
[QUOTE=Clippersfan86]It's sad how people embrace something so much one minute and turn on that thing the next. Saw it big time with Griffin last year now people are turning on Lin. Not only is he a great guy it seems but a hard worker who will still be a very good PG for years to come. Without Mike D'Antoni coaching him and letting him run the team with that freedom he will probably never put up those 25, 10 type games again but he can absolutely be a nice 15/7 and 3-4 type of player and a borderline all star.[/QUOTE]
I never bought the hype, but I like what he can bring to a team either as a starter or of the bench. I just don't like how overrated he got and besides Griffin has much more potential than Lin does.
[QUOTE=Legends66NBA7]I never bought the hype, but I like what he can bring to a team either as a starter or of the bench. I just don't like how overrated he got and besides Griffin has much more potential than Lin does.[/QUOTE]
Thing is... how can you NOT like the hype? This was a guy who came out of NOWHERE literally and tore the league apart for a decent stretch. A nerdy Asian kid who went to Harvard at that. It's a feel good story and there is no such thing as a 20 game fluke IMO. I think with the right coach, team around him he COULD potentially become an all star but worse case should be a good starter for years to come.
I think the only ones that truly overrated him were Knicks fans when they acted like he was an elite player or something but most people were just excited as hell about the streak. Ironically it's Knicks fans now who tear him up the most and act like he's garbage.
[QUOTE=Clippersfan86]Thing is... how can you NOT like the hype? This was a guy who came out of NOWHERE literally and tore the league apart for a decent stretch. A nerdy Asian kid who went to Harvard at that. It's a feel good story and there is no such thing as a 20 game fluke IMO. I think with the right coach, team around him he COULD potentially become an all star but worse case should be a good starter for years to come.
I think the only ones that truly overrated him were Knicks fans when they acted like he was an elite player or something but most people were just excited as hell about the streak. Ironically it's Knicks fans now who tear him up the most and act like he's garbage.[/QUOTE]
I agree with you about the hype. I don't think a lot of people really understand that it wasn't even about basketball; maybe 20% of it was. But the Linsanity was pushed so high because of all the stories behind it.
You got a new "Big 3" team struggling (7 games under .500) and can't seen to find their PG to run the offense. Out of nowhere, here comes some Harvard grad Asian kid who is a Jesus freak. The kid's been cut, like what, 3 times during the offseason?
Seriously, you can't write this shit. Hollywood would have NEVER thought of this. New York Times best sellers wouldn't have either. It was a really good-feel story.
Lin's highlights from today
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZ5oFtPXyck[/url]
He looked good. He needs to learn to play more where he is setting up the offense, not initiating every play on the offense. He plays like Marbury (stylewise, clearly he's not so selfish), if you are on the floor with him he will score, or you can score off his pass. If you are a post player, or a player who can iso, etc. he doesn't know how to get you the ball. If there young players become stars, he's going to have to learn to feed them the ball at times to let them create, or else you turn players into stand up shooters. Like Deron, he can do both easily.
Right now all offense is ran through Lin, which worked great on the Knicks when everyone was hurt, much less so when everyone was back. It's a progression he needs to learn but with a young Rockets team he might not be called on to do so.
:rant C'mon - HATER HATER! HE'S PERFECT!