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[QUOTE=DonDadda59]So basically you took the long way of admitting you're talking out of your ass, or more likely, copy & pasting someone else's bullshit. I asked you point blank- what is your theory on what occurred (or didn't), who specifically was involved, who benefited, and what do you have to back up these assertions.
It's really pretty simple stuff. I'm going to sleep and I fully expect you to dodge the questions, but hey maybe I'll be surprised. Have a great night, make sure the government or illuminati doesn't send some brainwashed assassin to your home to silence you (hopefully your hometown doesn't appear in any recent film releases). :cheers:[/QUOTE]
I can care less who benefits from this nor am I on some mission to over throw the government. I think those who actually think they can do that is stupid.
I think conspiracies are fun to talk about; it's just a curiosity of not knowing that I like to know. I do it for comedic value.
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[QUOTE=DonDadda59]So basically you took the long way of admitting you're talking out of your ass, or more likely, copy & pasting someone else's bullshit. I asked you point blank- what is your theory on what occurred (or didn't), who specifically was involved, who benefited, and what do you have to back up these assertions.
It's really pretty simple stuff. I'm going to sleep and I fully expect you to dodge the questions, but hey maybe I'll be surprised. Have a great night, make sure the government or illuminati doesn't send some brainwashed assassin to your home to silence you (hopefully your hometown doesn't appear in any recent film releases). :cheers:[/QUOTE]
To wish death on someone is just sad.
I don't even know what the illuminati is.
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Negative rep for wishing death on me. What an as*hole.
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In the below audio, the scanner recording at about 30:24, the police officer reports that he has a possible suspect vehicle and lists off the license plate.
The name of the man who the car belongs to is Christopher A. Rodia
There is a Christopher A. Rodia in Connecticut, born in 1969. If you google his name you will find an article from February 2012 about him stealing copper [URL="http://www.wtnh.com/dpp/news/crime/duo-caught-stealing-copper-from-construction-site#.UNSqcG9X1Xc"]here.[/URL]
At 30:20 the police officer reports the license plate of the vehicle.
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ETkrxfYoQtc"]872 YEO[/URL]
Adam Lanza's license plate:
[IMG]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/gw50d4b2f1.jpg[/IMG]
[B]Again, another anamoly; this is not Adam Lanza's mom's car. Someone is lying.[/B]
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[QUOTE=DonDadda59]So basically you took the long way of admitting you're talking out of your ass, or more likely, copy & pasting someone else's bullshit. I asked you point blank- what is your theory on what occurred (or didn't), who specifically was involved, who benefited, and what do you have to back up these assertions.
It's really pretty simple stuff. I'm going to sleep and I fully expect you to dodge the questions, but hey maybe I'll be surprised. [B]Have a great night, make sure the government or illuminati doesn't send some brainwashed assassin to your home to silence you[/B] (hopefully your hometown doesn't appear in any recent film releases). :cheers:[/QUOTE]
[I][SIZE="4"]"Who's that peeking in my window Pow!, nobody now!"[/SIZE][/I]
:roll:
Old school Goodie Mob ...
Geto Boys ... Mind Playing Tricks On Me
[I]"See every time my eyes close, I start sweating and blood starts coming out my nose ... there's somebody watching me act, but I don't know who it is so I'm watching my back"[/I]
:rockon:
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[QUOTE=Legend of Josh][I][SIZE="4"]"Who's that peeking in my window Pow!, nobody now!"[/SIZE][/I]
:roll:
Old school Goodie Mob ...
Geto Boys ... Mind Playing Tricks On Me
[I]"See every time my eyes close, I start sweating and blood starts coming out my nose ... there's somebody watching me act, but I don't know who it is so I'm watching my back"[/I]
:rockon:[/QUOTE]
Haha ..
Wish it would happen. Bring it on. Might as well since I won't ever shut up. :cheers:
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[QUOTE=IamRAMBO24]Haha ..
Wish it would happen. Bring it on. Might as well since I won't ever shut up. :cheers:[/QUOTE]
What's really crazy, is that some internet conspiracy nuts actually believe the FBI, CIA and especially Illuminati or whomever closely monitor their online life/lives and become RL paranoid "peeping out their windows" and shit like that thinking they're a target because they've "reached the masses" via the interweb. They want to believe they're infamous on some internet super hero steez.
Honestly, and sorry Dooms you're my boy but I have to use you as an example here, some of these guys honestly believe they're being watched every minute of every day, like there's some task force specially dedicated to track, monitor and catch every post, opinion, etc from them as they preach, educate and "bring to the light" opening everyone's eyes like they're some modern day hero.
:oldlol:
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[QUOTE=DonDadda59]No, conspiracy theory is a form of douchebaggery. If you were an investigative journalist, you would be in Sandy Hook right now conducting interviews with law enforcement, school officials, families, etc. Instead, you're on a message board coming off a completely clueless and insensitive dunce. What is your particular conspiracy theory exactly? From what I gather here it looks like you're trying to convince people that the massacre didn't happen and some government agency or body hired child actors to read scripts.
According to your journalistic investigation, what are the particular agencies that were involved in this hoax? I mean something like this would require a whole town, state, and the federal government's participation as well as the media, law enforcement, etc. Who benefits from this?
I mean, you have thought this through haven't you? This thread and its content aren't just the copy & pasted mental diarrhea of some internet loser, right? This is the result of a thorough and well-documented investigation, amirite?[/QUOTE]
The propensity to conspiracy theorism is a symptom of alienation. Alienation from any sense of community probably precedes alienation from the government and the media until you end up where we are, alienation from your emotions. You don't have feel anything when you seeing children crying because their classmates were murdered, you can dismiss them and in fact sneer at them for daring to make you try to feel something other than the narcotic of your own self-righteousness.
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[QUOTE=KevinNYC]The propensity to conspiracy theorism is a symptom of alienation. Alienation from any sense of community probably precedes alienation from the government and the media until you end up where we are, alienation from your emotions. You don't have feel anything when you seeing children crying because their classmates were murdered, you can dismiss them and in fact sneer at them for daring to make you try to feel something other than the narcotic of your own self-righteousness.[/QUOTE]
It's also about a fear of randomness in the world. Conspiracy theorists' greatest fear isn't a shadow government or a New World Order or Doomsday scenarios. Their greatest fear is the idea that, in the world, things happen without any discernible societal rhyme or reason.
Without being able to explain exactly why or how a tragic event occurred, they're left with the emptiness of the unknown and unpredictability of everyday life in the real world. Better to concoct these ridiculously convoluted theories, because at least it brings a sense of order to the world.
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[QUOTE=RedBlackAttack]It's also about a fear of randomness in the world. Conspiracy theorists' greatest fear isn't a shadow government or a New World Order or Doomsday scenarios. Their greatest fear is the idea that, in the world, things happen without any discernible societal rhyme or reason.
Without being able to explain exactly why or how a tragic event occurred, they're left with the emptiness of the unknown and unpredictability of everyday life in the real world. Better to concoct these ridiculously convoluted theories, because at least it brings a sense of order to the world.[/QUOTE]
There is also a brain chemistry component to it. I didn't use the word narcotic just for effect. Folks with higher levels of dopamine in the brain seem to be more susceptible to conspiracy theorism. Hunting conspiracy and noticing patterns pleases our brain the same way playing Tetris does.
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[QUOTE=KevinNYC]There is also a brain chemistry component to it. I didn't use the word narcotic just for effect. Folks with higher levels of dopamine in the brain seem to be more susceptible to conspiracy theorism. Hunting conspiracy and noticing patterns pleases our brain the same way playing Tetris does.[/QUOTE]
sounds like dunning-krueger in effect.
i think it helps to look back at history too, to see how groups of people explained things and held on to ridiculous notions for so long. i mean, a group of ignorant, self-righteous people can function similarly to an alienated individual. the dopamine can surge for everyone involved.
you might say that all of human history was filled with conspiracy theories... just that in the past they became the fabric of society and religion, and now they're relegated to the fringe of this technosociety.
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[QUOTE=IamRAMBO24]The proof is still on your side.
[B]
Where are the videos of the traumatic witnesses in the shooting.[/B] Sadly, there is only one crying scene and the guy literally had to work up a sad face before they turned on the camera.
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urrRcgB581w"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urrRcgB581w[/URL]
:lol
This whole thing stinks of fakeness.[/QUOTE]
Yeah.
It's a real shame that news cameras weren't there to capture the violence live, or that police haven't released CCTV footage (if the school had a CCTV system) so we can actually see the little kids getting mowed down in their classroom. I mean, we HAVE to clear this up, right?
Also, it's shame that news organizations didn't stuff cameras in the faces of those 6 and 7 year olds who were MOST traumatized by this event immediately after it happened.
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[QUOTE=IamRAMBO24]The proof is still on your side.
[B]
Where are the videos of the traumatic witnesses in the shooting.[/B] Sadly, there is only one crying scene and the guy literally had to work up a sad face before they turned on the camera.
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urrRcgB581w"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urrRcgB581w[/URL]
:lol
This whole thing stinks of fakeness.[/QUOTE]
Did you mean "the burden of proof is still on your side"? You're the one who is making extraordinary claims and they require extraordinary evidence (as the saying goes). So, where is the evidence? Where is the 'smoking gun'? You act like the media rushing to print the news and making mistakes is an anomaly when it isn't. If people want to be taken seriously on such matters, then they have to bring real, hardcore evidence backing up their claims. Not a bunch of made up, twisted junk where you ignore or twist reality to suit your needs. Continuing to ask for video/pictures of crying kids comes off as twisted.
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[QUOTE=gigantes]
you might say that all of human history was filled with conspiracy theories... just that in the past they became the fabric of society and religion, and now they're relegated to the fringe of this technosociety.[/QUOTE]
this is real interesting. Tales of the supernatural have evolved into conspiracy stories of shadowy mercurial secret organizations.
The reasons for constructing these stories do seem inconsistent. It's a fear of the random and need to place some deterministic narrative to connect all the arbitrary dots of the world.
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[QUOTE=heyhey]this is real interesting. Tales of the supernatural have evolved into conspiracy stories of shadowy mercurial secret organizations.
The reasons for constructing these stories do seem inconsistent. It's a fear of the random and need to place some deterministic narrative to connect all the arbitrary dots of the world.[/QUOTE]
...which goes to the heart of the human (or sentient) experience. because no matter how much we know, there's still a shitload around us that we don't know and won't ever know, so we're strongly urged to construct that narrative you mention.
just that nowadays we have the comforting platform of science to lean so heavily against. but for almost all the rest of modern human history (as much as the last 200,000 yrs or so) we had little choice but to be conspiracy theorists of a sort, and then act on those belief systems. such as making an offering at a temple to appease the grand puppeteer behind the conspiracy. either that, or live in a state of uncertainty and increased anxiety.
and prolonged anxiety leads to loss of health. so historically speaking, being a conspiracy theorist was a healthful thing to do. up to a point, obviously. i guess the key difference is where one's level of restraint lies.
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[QUOTE=heyhey]this is real interesting. Tales of the supernatural have evolved into conspiracy stories of shadowy mercurial secret organizations.
The reasons for constructing these stories do seem inconsistent. It's a fear of the random and need to place some deterministic narrative to connect all the arbitrary dots of the world.[/QUOTE]
They used to burn people for being witches. Conspiracy theories fall into that same must have an explanation for the in-explainable class.
Conspiracy nuts take a moment in time and dismiss the easy answers and weave complicated connect the dots stories then hold it out as if it's completely rational.
In this case the nuts use police radio chatter during an event as it unfolds live then expect the police to be 100% right about everything they communicate during a fluid situation.
The fact is during an event like Sandy Hook, the police the media following the police and witnesses on the scene are going to make mistakes, they're human and as we all know humans are not perfect in a crisis situation.
That's where the conspiracy folks step in to point out the human mistakes when chaos was ruling the moment but in their case they deny the errors and see them as actual devious doings by some unseen force.
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[QUOTE=daily]
That's where the conspiracy folks step in to point out the human mistakes when chaos was ruling the moment but in their case they deny the errors and see them as actual devious doings by some unseen force.[/QUOTE]
That's exactly what I did with Building 7, The Pentagon, and Flight 93.
Chaos was ruling the moment and those physical objects made some really big errors just like humans do.
But let's not go back to the fact that 9/11 was obviously inside job.
I don't know what happened at Sandy Hook, all I know is that Robbie Parker looks like the worst actor I've ever seen... His entire speech felt fake. If you can watch him speak and not feel the same then good for you...
Now excuse me, I have Cowboys game to watch.
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[QUOTE=Jackass18]Did you mean "the burden of proof is still on your side"? You're the one who is making extraordinary claims and they require extraordinary evidence (as the saying goes). So, where is the evidence? Where is the 'smoking gun'? You act like the media rushing to print the news and making mistakes is an anomaly when it isn't. If people want to be taken seriously on such matters, then they have to bring real, hardcore evidence backing up their claims. Not a bunch of made up, twisted junk where you ignore or twist reality to suit your needs. Continuing to ask for video/pictures of crying kids comes off as twisted.[/QUOTE]
The media is so f*ckin fake it is ridiculous. The burden of proof is on them. I don't know why you are asking the proof from me when I am merely asking questions based on the inconsistencies from the media.
I am not drawing any conclusions; I am merely questioning the inconsistencies:
1. Why did the first responders link Adam Lanza's mom's car to Christopher Rodia and then the media proceeded to claim it was her's when it was clearly not.
2. How come the first responders knew the shooter was Adam but then proceeded to say it was his brother .. and how did they know who it was before arriving on the scene of the crime.
3. How come all the videos of the so call "traumatized" victims seem like bad actors straight out of a stage play.
4. How come there are very little concrete evidences coming out of the case .. for example: pictures of Nancy's gun collection or evidences of logs at shooting range, information on Adam Lanza's psychological visits, bullet holes from the shooting, more information from the injured, etc.
The only information we are getting are heresay and "official" word from law enforcements and federal agents. Where are the concrete proofs ..
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I hate the term conspiracy theorists; it sounds so demeaning. Let's call it like what it truly is: [B]amateur investigative reporting.[/B]
[I][B]Investigative journalism: The field of journalism that digs deeply into the darkest unknown secrets of corporations, criminals and governments, wiping out the cobwebs and tangled lies to expose the truth. Investigative journalists are those that expose the cracks in major cases. Their reports are often termed exposs for this very reason.[/B][/I]
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After 911, people are simply more observational. Most of the information aren't from me personally, but from like minded individuals who are more vigilant after the 9/11 event.
Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.
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4 firemen shot in New York, 2 dead.......:facepalm ..:( ....will someone also link that to Sandy Hook
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[QUOTE=IamRAMBO24]
I am not drawing any conclusions; I am merely questioning the inconsistencies:
[/QUOTE]
Huh?
[QUOTE=IamRAMBO24]
There is one video and it has been proven the person was faking it. Even the President got on stage and joined in on the act.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=IamRAMBO24]
I see very little concrete proof, fake actors, and a lot of misinformation from the media.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=IamRAMBO24]this is not Adam Lanza's mom's car. Someone is lying.[/B][/QUOTE]
Whole lotta conclusions there. Burden of proof is on you, son.
Finally, let's not pretend you're an investigative journalist. You're a nobody on the internet without real access to any first hand information. It's funny how you distrust "official" reports, yet totally believe stuff that random people post on Youtube, as if one is more authentic than the other.
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