Cousins, "you want me to stay you better bring in some of my old college friends".
Kings about to make a trade for Bledsoe next.
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Cousins, "you want me to stay you better bring in some of my old college friends".
Kings about to make a trade for Bledsoe next.
[QUOTE=bdreason]Cousins, "you want me to stay you better bring in some of my old college friends".
Kings about to make a trade for Bledsoe next.[/QUOTE]
Where did he say that? The Kings made the move to cut costs. If they are going to bring in any college friend it may as well be Wall lol.
Apprently they are going to make another move theres reports involving Atlanta and maybe someone else.
What I don't get is the Kings didn't even give Robinson a chance. Why would you draft a guy at #5, not give him a chance to play, then trade him half way through his rookie season?
This trade obviously had nothing to do with trying to build a winning basketball team.
I don't think Rockets are worried about winning now. They have some nice young talent signed for the next 4-5 years, and are 1 key player away from being a perennial playoff team... which isn't easy out West.
[QUOTE=andremiller07]Where did he say that? The Kings made the move to cut costs. If they are going to bring in any college friend it may as well be Wall lol.
Apprently they are going to make another move theres reports[/QUOTE]
It was a bad joke, sry.
[B]rockets gonna be good now.......:eek: .......Lakers should have jumped on T-rob........why didn
[QUOTE=bdreason]It was a bad joke, sry.[/QUOTE]
it was a good joke :lol
This isn't a lateral move for the Rockets. The little money they saved gives them enough space to offer someone else a max contract this summer.
The Kings got the best player in the deal. If T-Rob becomes as good and steady as Patrick Patterson I'd be surprised.
So wait who's our starting PF now? I liked Robinson in college. Love that motor and that grit. You have to have that in the west.
[QUOTE=Mr Exlax]So wait who's our starting PF now? I liked Robinson in college. Love that motor and that grit. You have to have that in the west.[/QUOTE]
I assume it will be T-Rob, this season when Jason Thompson got into foul trouble early he beasted quiet a few games. He will probably be the best rebounder on the Rockets squad the guy when hes into a game literally pulled more boards than in a short amount of time than Thompson, Hayes or DMC.
T-Rob has a little bit of a butter fingers issue but he makes up for it with the speed and hustle. He at times tends to rush things but hes got way better with that as the season has gone on. His jumpshot is so-so and he will be backed down easily by bigger PF's. Elite athlete and seems like he wants to get better but never got a true chance in the Kings since JT played very solid @PF.
[QUOTE=andremiller07]I assume it will be T-Rob, this season when Jason Thompson got into foul trouble early he beasted quiet a few games. He will probably be the best rebounder on the Rockets squad the guy when hes into a game literally pulled more boards than in a short amount of time than Thompson, Hayes or DMC.
T-Rob has a little bit of a butter fingers issue but he makes up for it with the speed and hustle. He at times tends to rush things but hes got way better with that as the season has gone on. His jumpshot is so-so and he will be backed down easily by bigger PF's. Elite athlete and seems like he wants to get better but never got a true chance in the Kings since JT played very solid @PF.[/QUOTE]
Appreciate that bro. I can honestly say I haven't seen a single second of him playing this season lol.
Robinson is a much better rebounder than Patterson. Watching him in college, he's also better than Patterson at running the floor and plays with more energy overall. The reason why this trade hurts the Rockets isn't because of Patterson. It's the combination of both Patterson and Morris. They are losing a lot of production this year. But I don't think they care as they aren't expected to contend this year and with Robinson, he is a rookie and still has the potential to be better than Patterson.
I wonder how long it's gonna take for them to start printing up the Robinson jerseys. I wanna get one ASAP!
[QUOTE=andremiller07]Lmao do you actually watch Kings games or are you that dumb? IT is one of the worst passing/IQ PG's in the L and is the worst starting PG in the NBA. IT is dumber than anyone in the starting 5. Dude can't even run a pick n roll to save his life or assist anyone for a easy bucket. I love IT but to act like he has decent BB IQ is beyond idiotic.[/QUOTE]
Have you not watched Tyreke or DMC play for more than 5 minutes? Tyreke has been playing the same way since his rookie year and everyone in the league knows he's going to drive to the basket but he will still do it no matter what. Even if there are 3 guys in the paint to stop him. DMC make moronic passes that make me lose my mind ever night. Turnover after turnover just on stupid plays that a 5th grader that has learned the game wouldn't make.
[QUOTE=andremiller07]I agree, T-Rob is going to be a solid player I don't see him being a superstar but its what the Kings got in return which is a complete joke.I think the Kings mistake was actually drafting T-Rob when we had more use for Drummond/Lillard/Barnes. Its just one horrible move after another.[/QUOTE]
I don't see him as a star either although his hustle and hops remind me a Gerald Wallace the one year we had him. This deal also reminds me of giving up Gerald Wallace in the expansion draft too, stupid.
This is a rather weird trade. Shouldn't the Rockets want more established guys rather than an unproven rookie? They trade away solid rotation pieces for him? Weird. Must be for cap and next year. Not bad pick up either with T-Rob.
This is a good trade for the Rockets. I think Robinson has a much higher ceiling than Pat. TRob is a great athlete, good rebounder and finisher, also very exciting to watch. Asik and T-Rob will be a beast rebounding/hustle play combo. He could turn out to be a great player if the Rockets keep him and use him correctly.
[QUOTE=D-Rose]This is a rather weird trade. Shouldn't the Rockets want more established guys rather than an unproven rookie? They trade away solid rotation pieces for him? Weird. Must be for cap and next year. Not bad pick up either with T-Rob.[/QUOTE]
I like what they're doing. They're loading up on young talent on cheap contracts and they still have the capspace to land some veterans. I'm sure Houston is considered an attractive place since they are a young up and coming team with a solid foundation. This has to be the fastest rebuilt I've ever seen.
[B]asik, lin, harden, t-rob, parsons ........pretty damm good team......:eek:[/B]
[QUOTE=iDunk]Patrick Patterson is actually a pretty good PF. He's a starting quality PF.
I don't think T-Rob is gonna be a star in this league. Maybe a JJ Hickson type of player.
Houston slightly won this trade. But its not rapage by the Rockets.[/QUOTE]
Don't let PPat's size fool you. He's got great range, and looks really strong, but is pretty allergic to rebounds. We were all hoping that Patterson could be a great POWER forward but if anything, he's a downgraded version of Scola.
[QUOTE=tomtucker]asik, lin, harden, t-rob, parsons ........pretty damm good team......:eek:[/QUOTE]
And 4 of those players weren't even on the team last season
Although I don't like losing T-Rob he's been really overrated on this thread. I can't see him starting in the NBA on any team anytime soon. But I could be wrong.
[QUOTE=Miles and Miles]Although I don't like losing T-Rob he's been really overrated on this thread. I can't see him starting in the NBA on any team anytime soon. But I could be wrong.[/QUOTE]
Hard to overrate a guy who was considered a bust before he was drafted by most people here. Most people thought he was a late lottery pick at best.
[QUOTE=supe12sta12z]Hard to overrate a guy who was considered a bust before he was drafted by most people here. Most people thought he was a late lottery pick at best.[/QUOTE]
Well when people say he's going to be starting tomorrow for the Rockets, he's a beast, he's the best rebounder, etc, etc. THAT would all be overrating him.
[QUOTE=Miles and Miles]Well when people say he's going to be starting tomorrow for the Rockets, he's a beast, he's the best rebounder, etc, etc. THAT would all be overrating him.[/QUOTE]
No one said that. :oldlol:
[QUOTE=Miles and Miles]Well when people say he's going to be starting tomorrow for the Rockets, he's a beast, he's the best rebounder, etc, etc. THAT would all be overrating him.[/QUOTE]
Damn I haven't read that on here anywhere. Who's gonna score in the paint for us though? I guess Asik will be the #1 option down there. Can T-Rob post up?
[QUOTE=BuffaloBill]And 4 of those players weren't even on the team last season[/QUOTE]
rockets are trying to build a champion.......or what ?
[QUOTE=Miles and Miles]Well when people say he's going to be starting tomorrow for the Rockets, he's a beast, he's the best rebounder, etc, etc. THAT would all be overrating him.[/QUOTE]
The reason people are high on the trade for him is because he has a pretty good chance to fit into the Rockets system. He will be a high energy rebounder/screener who will get to run the floor more on the Rockets. Its a scenario where he can play to his strengths while having time to develop his weaknesses.
Didn't realize that the Rockets traded away all the PFs. T-Rob should actually get some playing time, maybe he will get a chance to develop. Good for him.
The best part about this trade is that the Kings only added to their 1000 guards when they should have been trying to clear the glut instead they added to it :oldlol:
[QUOTE=longtime lurker]The best part about this trade is that the Kings only added to their 1000 guards when they should have been trying to clear the glut instead they added to it :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
Positions or players on the court weren't a factor, just money.
Tyreke Evans to the Hawks for 2 first round picks (the Hawks' own pick and the Nets' pick from the Joe Johnson trade).
If Sacramento is going into destroy the roster because of salary reasons, then this at least gives the Kings some return, versus that garbage deal of yesterday.
[QUOTE=Miles and Miles]Positions or players on the court weren't a factor, just money.[/QUOTE]
I know but they took in Tony Douglas which when you consider Brooks, Thornton, Jimmer, Tyreke, Thomas and Salmons in the mix 6 players at the PG or SG position. That makes no damn sense.
[QUOTE=Jailblazers7]The reason people are high on the trade for him is because he has a pretty good chance to fit into the Rockets system. He will be a high energy rebounder/screener who will get to run the floor more on the Rockets. Its a scenario where he can play to his strengths while having time to develop his weaknesses.[/QUOTE]
he fits well in the rockets system?
they run tons of pick and rolls, with asik as the screener, and the pf spotting up, marcus morris and patrick patterson are both shooting a career high in attempts from 3. the rockets clearly out a huge emphasis in their pfs shooting 3, something robinson hasnt shown the ability to do.
so i guess the rockets think that robinson is talented enough to justify the poor fit, becasue he definitely doesnt fit the system that they are currently running.
[QUOTE=longtime lurker]I know but they took in Tony Douglas which when you consider Brooks, Thornton, Jimmer, Tyreke, Thomas and Salmons in the mix 6 players at the PG or SG position. That makes no damn sense.[/QUOTE]
Well Salmons is mostly a SF but I know your point. I am sure that Coach Smart will try to play them all too. :banghead:
[QUOTE=Jailblazers7]Patterson was clearly the leader on the UK team. He's not going to be some yes man that treats Cousins like a prodigy. Not sure it will make a difference but it certainly can't hurt.[/QUOTE]
Ppat is a stand up guy. He's pretty outspoken and isn't afraid to voice his opinion.
When Houston was going through the 7 game losing streak, he called out Harden for being too ball greedy and taking too many hero shots. He also criticised himself for not rebounding enough, which was true.
He won't pander to DMC.
[QUOTE=chips93]he fits well in the rockets system?
they run tons of pick and rolls, with asik as the screener, and the pf spotting up, marcus morris and patrick patterson are both shooting a career high in attempts from 3. the rockets clearly out a huge emphasis in their pfs shooting 3, something robinson hasnt shown the ability to do.
so i guess the rockets think that robinson is talented enough to justify the poor fit, becasue he definitely doesnt fit the system that they are currently running.[/QUOTE]
yeah but he'll be great on pick and rolls for Lin and Harden, rather than always a jump shot, Lin and Harden can actually now attempt to throw alley oop passes....
[QUOTE=stevieming]yeah but he'll be great on pick and rolls for Lin and Harden, rather than always a jump shot, Lin and Harden can actually now attempt to throw alley oop passes....[/QUOTE]
true, but the way the rockets have been playing, they have always had a shooter at the 4.
if they are gonna play asik and robinson together, either robinson will have to change his game (more jumpshots), or the rockets will have to change their offensive strategy, less spacing, less 3pt shooting, and a more traditional offense.
has t-rob done anything like this dunk over dwight, lately?
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eWHLqGzaho[/url]
[QUOTE=chips93]true, but the way the rockets have been playing, they have always had a shooter at the 4.
if they are gonna play asik and robinson together, either robinson will have to change his game (more jumpshots), or the rockets will have to change their offensive strategy, less spacing, less 3pt shooting, and a more traditional offense.[/QUOTE]
That's more a product of the players Mchale has rather than the system Houston needs (a stretch four). If Mchale truly was targeting that kind of system, Morey wouldn't have traded away Patpat and Morris at the same time. Robinson won't be asked to take those silly three pointers (I always hated Ppat taking those 3s) and we can actually have somebody roll to the basket that isn't named Omer Stone-handed Asik.
[QUOTE=chips93]he fits well in the rockets system?
they run tons of pick and rolls, with asik as the screener, and the pf spotting up, marcus morris and patrick patterson are both shooting a career high in attempts from 3. the rockets clearly out a huge emphasis in their pfs shooting 3, something robinson hasnt shown the ability to do.
so i guess the rockets think that robinson is talented enough to justify the poor fit, becasue he definitely doesnt fit the system that they are currently running.[/QUOTE]
T-Rob fits very well into the Rockets system, a large part of his major success in college was the pick n roll, the main reason other than playing time in why he struggled in the Kings was cause not a single guard can run the pick n roll. T-Rob is the perfect PF to have next to Lin or Harden, he can use his quickness on rolls to the rim and get plenty of easy buckets.