[QUOTE=BrooklynZoo]am i missing something? what does this company have to do with the case?[/QUOTE]
Nothing :lol
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[QUOTE=BrooklynZoo]am i missing something? what does this company have to do with the case?[/QUOTE]
Nothing :lol
[QUOTE=Clippersfan86]It's a woman pushing the open door button a gazillion times (thus holding the door open) while acting paranoid either from a real threat, mental illness or drugs. Really not as creepy as people are making it seem IMO.[/QUOTE]
Considering the fact that she died shortly after, I find it ultra creepy. Even if it was drugs, and/or mental illness, let alone foul play. I'm sorry but most people here don't believe in Ghosts, and find similar ideas cartoonish. actual human nature and behavior can be very creepy though. Whether it's through drugs or mental illness, watching someone with no control of themselves that ends in a pretty horrific death is VERY creepy.
That's without considering that there is a decent chance that there was foul play (not involving casper).
[QUOTE=BrooklynZoo]am i missing something? what does this company have to do with the case?[/QUOTE]
We were discussing some Illuminati bs, and there was coincidentally a company beside the hotel that had a pyramid on their website.
She is definitely not on drugs; there is no way. Her actions speak of a person scared out of her mind. There should be more tale tell signs of drug use: for example, does she have a glowstick, pacifier, and is she dancing to trance music on an ipod or anything. She's asian. That's how they party in South Cali.
I wish people would drop the angle that she died because she was having a bad trip or whatever. Now I understand that people tend to act differently when they travel to other places and it's not out of the possibility that she may have been experimenting...but from what I've heard she doesn't drink or smoke; basically a girl kept on the straight line.
[QUOTE=IamRAMBO24]She is definitely not on drugs; there is no way. Her actions speak of a person scared out of her mind. There should be more tale tell signs of drug use: [b]for example, does she have a glowstick, pacifier, and is she dancing to trance music on an ipod or anything. She's asian. That's how they party in South Cali.[/b][/QUOTE]
i can confirm that this is true
[QUOTE=PrettyCool]Considering the fact that she died shortly after, I find it ultra creepy. Even if it was drugs, and/or mental illness, let alone foul play. I'm sorry but most people here don't believe in Ghosts, and find similar ideas cartoonish. actual human nature and behavior can be very creepy though. Whether it's through drugs or mental illness, watching someone with no control of themselves that ends in a pretty horrific death is VERY creepy.
That's without considering that there is a decent chance that there was foul play (not involving casper).[/QUOTE]
Carl Jung, one of the greatest and most influential psychologists in this century, did a concrete, scientific study on ghosts, so I wouldn't exactly call it "cartoonish."
Sure we don't know much about the supernatural, but our ignorance should not exclude it altogether in intellectual thought. It is a radical idea, but not everyone can be as radical, hence why he is the best and his ideas will be studied for generations straight on forward.
As for the idea of a supernatural entity in this series of events, I would say probably not. I'm sure drugs are not involved; I'm sure someone was after her, and that she was afraid, and when people panic, they do weird things; I'm also guessing the person who murdered her happen to live at the hotel to be able to avoid the camera. Also, this person seems like a stranger, someone she has never met, for her to be "overly" cautious in approaching him.
After she left the elevator, she was dragged into a room where she was raped and drugged of something that will knock her out (a toxiological report might come back positive for barbituates) and then dumped into the water bins because the murderer had no other place to dump her due to the security, front desk, and customers in the main lobby.
Just my guess using a bit of reasoning based on the known facts so far.
[QUOTE=IamRAMBO24]Carl Jung, one of the greatest and most influential psychologists in this century, did a concrete, scientific study on ghosts, so I wouldn't exactly call it "cartoonish."
Sure we don't know much about the supernatural, but our ignorance should not exclude it altogether in intellectual thought. It is a radical idea, but not everyone can be as radical, hence why he is the best and his ideas will be studied for generations straight on forward.
As for the idea of a supernatural entity in this series of events, I would say probably not. I'm sure drugs are not involved; I'm sure someone was after her, and that she was afraid, and when people panic, they do weird things; I'm also guessing the person who murdered her happen to live at the hotel to be able to avoid the camera. Also, this person seems like a stranger, someone she has never met, for her to be "overly" cautious in approaching him.
After she left the elevator, she was dragged into a room where she was raped and drugged of something that will knock her out (a toxiological report might come back positive for barbituates) and then dumped into the water bins because the murderer had no other place to dump her due to the security, front desk, and customers in the main lobby.
Just my guess using a bit of reasoning based on the known facts so far.[/QUOTE]
It is cartoonish. I don't know much about the carl Jung experiment so I won't comment, but it doesn't surprise me. People who think they saw ghosts is a real psychological phenomenon. Mostly among morons, but that's not the point.
There are no facts, because you can not prove or disprove most supernatural things that are so out there with no basis in reality that you can't even begin to test their existence. Ghosts are in the same boat as lepracahns, and if you even think theirs a chance they exist then your a ****ing idiot.
[QUOTE=IamSofaKing]Im actually really curios to find out the cause of her death was.[/QUOTE]
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anyone notice around 1:07-1:08 of the video, her arms are suddenly straight and relaxed? (kinda like what happens when someone is possessed in the movies)
After that.. she goes kinda crazy.. talks to herself, goes back in the elevator to frantically press more buttons, etc.
Oh how deep does the rabbit hole go?
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Elisa Lam's body found floating in a 3/4 water tank.
Intagram sent from Lam days before her death...
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[QUOTE=Shade8780]Reading this thread before bed. Worst..idea..EVER! I didn't watch the elevator video, and I don't think I will be anytime soon :lol[/QUOTE]
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Picture of the elevator Elisa was in...
[IMG]http://www.mingpaotor.com/ftp/News/20130225/_240225lam03.jpg[/IMG]
roof access/15th floor button is removed
Footnote: apparantley the Hotel has about 10 really shady people living in it. ( google sex offenders in that Hotel)
some have been living there over 10 years....they would know how to stay out of the camera's and know how to access the roof/water tanks.
Most people agree she pushed all the buttons to avoid someone figuring out what floor she was staying on...(4th)
[QUOTE=AlphaWolf24]Picture of the elevator Elisa was in...
[IMG]http://www.mingpaotor.com/ftp/News/20130225/_240225lam03.jpg[/IMG]
roof access/15th floor button is removed
Footnote: apparantley the Hotel has about 10 really shady people living in it. ( google sex offenders in that Hotel)
some have been living there over 10 years....they would know how to stay out of the camera's and know how to access the roof/water tanks.
Most people agree she pushed all the buttons to avoid someone figuring out what floor she was staying on...(4th)[/QUOTE]
Where you get that picture from? Don't tell me you went in that elevator yourself. :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
AlphaWolf24, reputed ISH poster, has now gone missing after visiting the Cecil Hotel...full story at 10.:(
good recap of the story on youtube:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYFemcnJixY[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOaXm4KJli8[/url]
[QUOTE=n00bie]good recap of the story on youtube:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYFemcnJixY[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOaXm4KJli8[/url][/QUOTE]
she wrote in her blog that she hoped her mexican and italian stalkers would leave her alone :eek:
[QUOTE=TheMan]AlphaWolf24, reputed ISH poster, has now gone missing after visiting the Cecil Hotel...full story at 10.:([/QUOTE]
:lol
If that did happen...no doubt I would make the news....."we are all celebrities here at InsideHoops."
[QUOTE]Where you get that picture from? Don't tell me you went in that elevator yourself. [/QUOTE]
heck naw......
some Chinese guy is conducting his own investigation....
[QUOTE=rezznor]she wrote in her blog that she hoped her mexican and italian stalkers would leave her alone :eek:[/QUOTE]
Be careful with what you read. Not sure if the blog you saw is the same but one supposed blog a Tumblr account and an Instagram account have all been proven to be hoaxes with fabricated information. There was an actual facebook but her family emptied it out, account's still there but every post and picture have been removed
[QUOTE=AlphaWolf24]:lol
If that did happen...no doubt I would make the news....."we are all celebrities
some Chinese guy is conducting his own investigation....[/QUOTE]
Here he is. Google Chrome browser will translate for you
[url]http://tieba.baidu.com/p/2179533681?see_lz=1&pn=2[/url]
[QUOTE=PrettyCool]It is cartoonish. I don't know much about the carl Jung experiment so I won't comment, but it doesn't surprise me. People who think they saw ghosts is a real psychological phenomenon. Mostly among morons, but that's not the point.
There are no facts, because you can not prove or disprove most supernatural things that are so out there with no basis in reality that you can't even begin to test their existence. Ghosts are in the same boat as lepracahns, and if you even think theirs a chance they exist then your a ****ing idiot.[/QUOTE]
Believing in the supernatural is no different than believing in the spiritual. Heck, you can even throw in love. Do you believe in love. If you do, then it is rubbish because there are no concrete evidence of it's existence. Stop being so generic. Reality is too vast to only be obssessed with a shallow materialistic view (which has already been disproven and is consider a "delusional" way of viewing the world btw).
PrettyCool
You might think you know it all (as the name implies), but trust me, this only implies you don't know sh*t. Heed the wise advice of Socrates (which is the start of [B]TRUE LEARNING[/B] and not the memorization crap you learn in school).
"The only thing I know is that I know nothing."
People who don't act like they know it all will always strive to learn; they never say this or that cannot possibly be true; they always question. This is why they are smart.
Idiots like you think they know it all which is a fallacy in and of itself: you can't possibly know it all and even if you throw around your stupid facts and experiments, it doesn't mean sh*t because there are no absolute truths. [B]There are only temporary truths.[/B] New ideas will replace the facts and this will go on forever, so even your facts and premises cannot be absolutely true, but nothing more than subjective truths.
So don't act like you know it all; act like you don't know and start learning.
[QUOTE=daily]Here he is. Google Chrome browser will translate for you
[url]http://tieba.baidu.com/p/2179533681?see_lz=1&pn=2[/url][/QUOTE]
Interesting read! He mentioned that one of the "hold door" buttons are broken.
He also said the buttons in both the elevators are on the left hand side of the elevator.. yet Elisa Lam's video.. the buttons are on the right side? (unless google translation is giving me the wrong info from the thread).
Edit: nvm, he made a mistake. later on the thread he says the right elevator's buttons are on the right side.
[QUOTE=IamRAMBO24]PrettyCool
You might think you know it all (as the name implies), but trust me, this only implies you don't know sh*t. Heed the wise advice of Socrates (which is the start of [B]TRUE LEARNING[/B] and not the memorization crap you learn in school).
"The only thing I know is that I know nothing."
People who don't act like they know it all will always strive to learn; they never say this or that cannot possibly be true; they always question. This is why they are smart.
Idiots like you think they know it all which is a fallacy in and of itself: you can't possibly know it all and even if you throw around your stupid facts and experiments, it doesn't mean sh*t because there are no absolute truths. [B]There are only temporary truths.[/B] New ideas will replace the facts and this will go on forever, so even your facts and premises cannot be absolutely true, but nothing more than subjective truths.
So don't act like you know it all; act like you don't know and start learning.[/QUOTE]
I don't know it all. I just don't believe in the supernatural because.......you can't prove or disprove the supernatural. In other words they are so completely out there that you can't even begin to collect data. This includes deities, ghosts and midget Irishmen who wear green and put their gold behind ****ing rainbows.
Cool, you believe in ghosts. Striving to keep and open mind about ****ing ghosts is only going to make me more ignorant. Just stfu when people challenge your beliefs. Your long rambling posts aren't proving anything to me, or anybody else because non-retards are going to just dismiss your posts because they don't believe in ghosts lol.
I feel like I've earned an ISH medal after you, king of tards without self awareness, called me an idiot.
[QUOTE=AlphaWolf24]Picture of the elevator Elisa was in...
[IMG]http://www.mingpaotor.com/ftp/News/20130225/_240225lam03.jpg[/IMG]
roof access/15th floor button is removed
Footnote: apparantley the Hotel has about 10 really shady people living in it. ( google sex offenders in that Hotel)
some have been living there over 10 years....they would know how to stay out of the camera's and know how to access the roof/water tanks.
Most people agree she pushed all the buttons to avoid someone figuring out what floor she was staying on...(4th)[/QUOTE]
lol reminds me of this movie
[IMG]http://cinemaknifefight.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/1408_2007_991_poster.jpg[/IMG
creepy movie btw
[QUOTE=PrettyCool]I don't know it all. I just don't believe in the supernatural because.......you can't prove or disprove the supernatural. In other words they are so completely out there that you can't even begin to collect data. This includes deities, ghosts and midget Irishmen who wear green and put their gold behind ****ing rainbows.
Cool, you believe in ghosts. Striving to keep and open mind about ****ing ghosts is only going to make me more ignorant. Just stfu when people challenge your beliefs. Your long rambling posts aren't proving anything to me, or anybody else because non-retards are going to just dismiss your posts because they don't believe in ghosts lol.
I feel like I've earned an ISH medal after you, king of tards without self awareness, called me an idiot.[/QUOTE]
Fair enough.
The thing is I will never doubt anything as completely untrue because it will hamper my creative ability to imagine and create new truths.
If you believe you already know all there is to know based on a Scientific formula that has only been created about 50 years or so through your mediocre public education, so be it.
The act of not believing everything and always questioning in the hopes of finding deeper truths is more attractive to me. Call me a moron, but at least a moron like me can find solace in a premise he is completely satisfied with.
[QUOTE=DMV2]If this was an American girl found dead in a Canadian hotel(or any other country), the police, other govt officials and the media wouldn't suggest accidental or drug-related immediately. Murder, foul play would be the initial reports.[/QUOTE]
smartest post in this whole thread.
[quote=DMV2]
If this was an American girl found dead in a Canadian hotel(or any other country), the police, other govt officials and the media wouldn't suggest accidental or drug-related immediately. Murder, foul play would be the initial reports.[/QUOTE]
Don't be foolish, this case is being treated as a homicide as we speak. It's not official because all the facts are not out yet, but the investigative team is digging into that angle as we speak especially when one of the officers said, "She must've of been carried to the water bins because the dogs could not pick up the scent."
Race baiting is very homosexual.
[QUOTE=IamRAMBO24]Fair enough.
The thing is I will never doubt anything as completely untrue because it will hamper my creative ability to imagine and create new truths.
If you believe you already know all there is to know based on a Scientific formula that has only been created about 50 years or so through your mediocre public education, so be it.
The act of not believing everything and always questioning in the hopes of finding deeper truths is more attractive to me. Call me a moron, but at least a moron like me can find solace in a premise he is completely satisfied with.[/QUOTE]
ok lol. I'm not going to question my belief in a "scientific forumula" (do you mean the scientific process?) because some meth heads saw a girl walking down a hallway in their apartment, or some creepy things happened on a specific wing of a battle ship according to a late night special on the History channel.
rambo24 is a ****ing intelligent human being. He can imagine shit like ghosts and he calls them deeper truths.:applause: **** stupid facts and observations from stupid experiments, all you need is your imagination.
Watched the video again, and she's definitely on something. It looks like she's not coping well with whatever she's on, which reinforces my belief that she was drugged against her will.
I can imagine a situation where she's invited over for a drink, gets drugged, starts feeling strange, and attempts to return to her room.
[QUOTE=Jello]rambo24 is a ****ing intelligent human being. He can imagine shit like ghosts and he calls them deeper truths.:applause: **** stupid facts and observations from stupid experiments, all you need is your imagination.[/QUOTE]
Yup, the use of imagination is hands down the highest intellectual thought that has time and time again evolved mankind. Einstein had a dream he was running at the speed of light and based his whole conception on this idea alone; then you have Watson with the imagination of 2 snakes intertwining to create the double helix, so on and so forth, not to mention many great thinkers such as Newton, Kant, Schopenhauer, Faraday, etc. who have used their imaginations to make great strides towards the advancement of mankind.
The system you guys are using (which revolves around a mediocre public education that teaches a distorted system of truth) has yield absolutely no modern day "geniuses" in our public colleges today and in fact discourages the usage of a very valuable aspect of our intellect: [B]creativity.[/B]
I am not an educated guy; I am a philosopher, so my idea of truth and intellect is very different than your's. You see, you were [B]TOLD [/B] how to think, while I was taught to really think. Big difference.
[QUOTE=IamRAMBO24]Yup, the use of imagination is hands down the highest intellectual thought that has time and time again evolved mankind. Einstein had a dream he was running at the speed of light and based his whole conception on this idea alone; then you have Watson with the imagination of 2 snakes intertwining to create the double helix, so on and so forth, not to mention many great thinkers such as Newton, Kant, Schopenhauer, Faraday, etc. who have used their imaginations to make great strides towards the advancement of mankind.
The system you guys are using (which revolves around a mediocre public education that teaches a distorted system of truth) has yield absolutely no modern day "geniuses" in our public colleges today and in fact discourages the usage of a very valuable aspect of our intellect: [B]creativity.[/B]
I am not an educated guy; I am a philosopher, so my idea of truth and intellect is very different than your's. You see, you were [B]TOLD [/B] how to think, while I was taught to really think. Big difference.[/QUOTE]
:applause: :applause: :applause: You are the next Einstein, Watson, Schopenhauer, Faraday, etc. :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:
[QUOTE=IamRAMBO24]
I am not an educated guy; I am a philosopher, so my idea of truth and intellect is very different than your's. You see, you were [B]TOLD [/B] how to think, while I was taught to really think. Big difference.[/QUOTE]
You possess a self-insulating thought process, If anyone disagrees they simply become part of the masses beneath your level of thought, meaning for you there is no information anyone could share that could change your mind.
Have fun with this in your future, you're about to become one miserable SOB
[QUOTE=Jello]:applause: :applause: :applause: You are the next Einstein, Watson, Schopenhauer, Faraday, etc. :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:[/QUOTE]
I bet you have neither read them nor had any conception of what they really stood for.
[QUOTE=IamRAMBO24]I bet you have neither read them nor had any conception of what they really stood for.[/QUOTE]
Don't need to. I can imagine it or dream about it at night.
:lol Iamrambo24 derailed this thread so hard with his nonsense.
[QUOTE=daily]You possess a self-insulating thought process, If anyone disagrees they simply become part of the masses beneath your level of thought, meaning for you there is no information anyone could share that could change your mind.
Have fun with this in your future, you're about to become one miserable SOB[/QUOTE]
Well, at least you are catching on. Unlike these intellectual hasbeens who think they know it all, the act of questioning to me in and of itself is the process of learning.
Come up with a better idea, and my mind will change. Period. And really it is the start of digging for deeper truths and not merely regurgitating what you were told or read in a news article that will change my position, and the only way to do that is to have a curious non-restrictive mind.
As is, half of the stuff these guys are posting are sh*t I can read somewhere else or someone else said it before. It's almost like they dig for some fancy witty one liners and repeat it on here as their own. It's nothing new and they sit there and claim they are so f*ckin smart.
[QUOTE=shlver]:lol Iamrambo24 derailed this thread so hard with his nonsense.[/QUOTE]
My apologies. Carry on with Elisa Lam.
[QUOTE=Jello]Don't need to. I can imagine it or dream about it at night.[/QUOTE]
You're such a troll. It's kind of cute. *hugs*