This must be said: The Wire is overrated

[QUOTE=andgar923]I agree, it depends on the kind of show in question.

A show such as The Wire needs more realistic characters, not as bombastic, whereas The Sopranos can even benefit from it. Sure the Sopranos wants realism, but they're not trying to be what the Wire was.

Only brought it up is because some knocked the Wire and BB for having over the top characters, but they're not trying to be a documentary-ish type show a la Wire.[/QUOTE]

Fair enough, but IMO Breaking Bad has a lot more issues than just over the top characters, but I'm sure that's a topic for another thread.

So you conclude the Wire is an overrated show from watching one season in a five season series? OP is not serious about life. Sounds like just an attention whoring thread.

[QUOTE=Styles p]also the ring little story line in the wire. omar took it from marlo at a card game, the cop took it from omar then michael took it from the cop. marlo asks mike where he got it from and he said "took it from some *****" marlo thought mike took it from omar, which immediately made marlo respect mike more.[/QUOTE]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpKpMtLioUU[/url]

I finally forced myself to watch the full first two seasons of this show. Holy shit, I do not see the appeal. At least not to the level it gets exalted. The [B]only [/B]interesting characters to me are Omar and Stringer. The rest are either flat, poorly written or poorly acted. McNulty; boring. The black detectives; meh. The lesbian cop getting shot; are we supposed to feel something?

Oh, and the scene where Barksdale's nephew gets murdered in prison is some of [I]the worst[/I] acting I've ever seen. Not even kidding. I wasn't thinking, "Oh wow, a main character is getting choked out!" I was thinking, "I'm watching an actor unconvincingly pretend to get strangled."

The only thing holding this show up at all is the plot and the acting from Williams and Elba. I don't think I'll make it into season 3. Verdict confirmed: [B]overrated[/B].

Of course someone with your terrible taste dislikes this show

The show came out like 13 years ago....prolly seems a little dated now...

but it was good when it first aired

The main character was using an Android.

Doesn't surprise me blandgar dislikes the Wire :oldlol:

Overrate apple and underrate the Wire. iSheep

Sooooo Breaking BAd >>>> The Wire and Sopranos????:facepalm


breaking bad is overrated....turned that shit off after first episode

I agree with those that say Wire is great, but not [I]that[/I] great. I remember watching The Wire for the first time and being completely hooked (the 2nd season was my favourite). It was my favourite show for a long time. However, I think it was mostly because I'm from Europe and not really familiar with the environment portrayed in The Wire.

Watching the show for the second time I admit I had a hard time watching it once I knew what the plot was about. I appreciate the fact that the show gave a very good inside in the way systems work and also presented another angle on the war on drugs, but at the same time I think it was often too simplified or sometimes very cheap or just wrong. I also felt like there was a lot of stuff thrown in just to keep the level of authenticity and I thought it killed the dramatic part of the show. I feel the same way about Treme, which was done by the same people and is basically The Wire happening in New Orleans. Bringing in a lot of authentic characters and locations to cover for the lack of story or some writing that felt very cheesy to me. I get it, life is neither simple not fair. I feel many people get overwhelmed by the show like I was when I watched it for the first time and then call out people who don't like it for not being able to "understand" it, which I find funny, since I don't think the ideas the show presents are particularly difficult to understand, unless you're not educated.

I also thought some of the acting was very bad, which is understood considering the fact a lot of the people in the show are not trained actors. I thought Marlo, Snoop and Chris were all bad even though I thought the Marlo storyline was really good. Also I hated the way McNulty and Bunk were portrayed. I love Idris Elba, but he just seemed like a naive douchebag and was not convincing to me at all. I also thought there was a lot of good acting, but on average it felt nothing special.

I also thought cinematography could be better. I understand they probably didn't want to make any "nice" shots to keep the feel of the city kind of ugly and bad, but they could've done it much better. Most of it just looks pretty boring.

I also strongly disagree with the poster who suggested the comedy elements were better in The Wire than in Sopranos. I actually hated most of the humour in The Wire, most of it was extremely cheesy and very simple. Sopranos are very subtle in that aspect, but there's a lot of stuff in that's just ridiculously funny.

All in all, Sopranos and The Wire are 2 very different shows, but I think the level of acting, writing, depth and level of detail can't be compared. Sopranos are simply a better show. I don't even think The Wire is as good as Oz, Deadwood or Twin Peaks in that aspects. Fargo and True Detective also both looked nothing short of amazing so far, but it's to early to tell.

I agree with those that say Wire is great, but not [I]that[/I] great. I remember watching The Wire for the first time and being completely hooked (the 2nd season was my favourite). It was my favourite show for a long time. However, I think it was mostly because I'm from Europe and not really familiar with the environment portrayed in The Wire.

Watching the show for the second time I admit I had a hard time watching it once I knew what the plot was about. I appreciate the fact that the show gave a very good inside in the way systems work and also presented another angle on the war on drugs, but at the same time I think it was often too simplified or sometimes very cheap or just wrong. I also felt like there was a lot of stuff thrown in just to keep the level of authenticity and I thought it killed the dramatic part of the show. I feel the same way about Treme, which was done by the same people and is basically The Wire happening in New Orleans. Bringing in a lot of authentic characters and locations to cover for the lack of story or some writing that felt very cheesy to me. I get it, life is neither simple not fair. I feel many people get overwhelmed by the show like I was when I watched it for the first time and then call out people who don't like it for not being able to "understand" it, which I find funny, since I don't think the ideas the show presents are particularly difficult to understand, unless you're not educated.

I also thought some of the acting was very bad, which is understood considering the fact a lot of the people in the show are not trained actors. I thought Marlo, Snoop and Chris were all bad even though I thought the Marlo storyline was really good. Also I hated the way McNulty and Bunk were portrayed. I love Idris Elba, but he just seemed like a naive douchebag and was not convincing to me at all. I also thought there was a lot of good acting, but on average it felt nothing special.

I also thought cinematography could be better. I understand they probably didn't want to make any "nice" shots to keep the feel of the city kind of ugly and bad, but they could've done it much better. Most of it just looks pretty boring.

I also strongly disagree with the poster who suggested the comedy elements were better in The Wire than in Sopranos. I actually hated most of the humour in The Wire, most of it was extremely cheesy and very simple. Sopranos are very subtle in that aspect, but there's a lot of stuff in that's just ridiculously funny.

All in all, Sopranos and The Wire are 2 very different shows, but I think the level of acting, writing, depth and level of detail can't be compared. Sopranos are simply a better show. I don't even think The Wire is as good as Oz, Deadwood or Twin Peaks in that aspects. Fargo and True Detective also both looked nothing short of amazing so far, but it's to early to tell.

Again; overrated to a laughable degree.

This thread also: [IMG]http://i.gyazo.com/15e82017f22a3179eea0e4ca406dcfc7.png[/IMG]

Gotta agree... its not GOAT.

BrBa >>

watching some reruns it was a good show. Edris Alba, and Michael B Jordan became huge stars because of the Wire.

Only seen a couple episodes and never understood the hype. Didn't seem that much better than New York Undercover tbh.

[video=youtube;xlWQA4IdDZg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlWQA4IdDZg&t=63s[/video]

[video=youtube;qCKKFA5Srjo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCKKFA5Srjo[/video]

[video=youtube;yB4s_-BhOxg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yB4s_-BhOxg[/video]

[video=youtube;Vhm6j7Dep4I]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vhm6j7Dep4I[/video]

The wire is good. Just watched some episodes.

[QUOTE=Lebron23;14827212]The wire is good. Just watched some episodes.[/QUOTE]

:oldlol:

The Wire is one of the greatest shows ever.

This thread sucks.

stupid ass argument. GOAT show.

Still quote some of it 10 years after watching it. It's def one of my favs.

[QUOTE=Jackass18;8356609][B]So basically, you listened to other people and then raised your expectations to an unattainable level?[/B] The show wasn't the problem. I'd say your level of expectations was probably the problem. IMO, that's not the correct frame of mind to go in to watching a show (or pretty much anything for that matter). I'd say it's certainly your loss if you're going to give up on the show without giving it a real chance. Sit back, relax and try to enjoy the effing show instead of trying to nitpick stupid things like a contrarian.[/QUOTE]

Thats what overrated means, asshat :oldlol:

The Wire is a GOAT level show, and season 4 is literally one of the greatest seasons in television history, but I can see why it's not for everyone. It's very methodically paced, and seems a lot more dated than even the Sopranos, despite coming out around the same time.

I'm shocked at all the hate Breaking Bad was getting in this thread. I do agree with some of the issues regarding the believability of the writing at times, but people were playing it off like it was a 2nd tier show or something.

My issue with the Wire is it holds legitimately zero replay value for me, I could see myself maybe watching season 4 again, but I can't imagine watching the show again for a very long time. The Sopranos & Breaking Bad, in addition to being GOAT shows, have incredible replay value, especially the Sopranos.

Imo, the Wire is a GOAT tier show, but it's not as good or entertaining as the Sopranos & Breaking Bad.

[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents;14827391]The Wire is a GOAT level show, and season 4 is literally one of the greatest seasons in television history, but I can see why it's not for everyone. It's very methodically paced, and seems a lot more dated than even the Sopranos, despite coming out around the same time.

I'm shocked at all the hate Breaking Bad was getting in this thread. I do agree with some of the issues regarding the believability of the writing at times, but people were playing it off like it was a 2nd tier show or something.

My issue with the Wire is it holds legitimately zero replay value for me, I could see myself maybe watching season 4 again, but I can't imagine watching the show again for a very long time. The Sopranos & Breaking Bad, in addition to being GOAT shows, have incredible replay value, especially the Sopranos.

Imo, the Wire is a GOAT tier show, but it's not as good or entertaining as the Sopranos & Breaking Bad.[/QUOTE]

another crazy take. BB is great, and i used to have it in the 2nd tier below Sops and Wire, but after a recent re-watch I had to bump it up to the same category that only 2 other shows reside in. But to downplay it bc of replay value. LOL. it has more memorable catchphrases among the 3 GOAT shows, meme-ability, GIF-ability...SHIIIIIIIIEEEEEETTTTTT. c'mon man. Sopranos has tthe clear advantage in rewatch value among all 3, but BB isn't much better than Wire in the sense.

rant will be continued bc it's a holiday and i have nothing better to do atm.

entertainment value aside, the societal and cultural exposure alone give amazing value. i think the show should be mandatory in high schools. watch how drugs, politics, corruption all ruin our society and governmental system. anyone with an active brain will immediately want to join the libertarian party after watching that show. the government DOES NOT want to help you, neither do the police, your local drug dealer or councilman.

I have The Wire over Breaking Bad. They are both amazing, amazing shows and I would highly recommend them to anyone that hasn't seen them before... but for me it boils down to which one I would rather rewatch.

As great as Breaking Bad was to experience in real time, it's a show that's very story driven and relies heavily on suspense. Once you know how the plot unfolds and you learn the fates of all the characters, there's not as much reason to revisit it when compared to The Wire.

The Wire invites you into a living, breathing world of diverse characters and intertwining stories. It's not as plot driven as Breaking Bad but it's way more character driven. Even after the show is over you just want to go back and spend time with these people and relive their stories.

Honestly though they are both so different that it doesn't even warrant comparing them. Breaking Bad was still an amazing show that got better and better with each season, and it ended in insanely climactic fashion.

I will stand alone on this island if I have to, but it'd be nice if there were others to join me, but the following three shows have always been overrated to me:

The Wire
The Sopranos
Breaking Bad

I guess no way it gets bumped if it's that bad.