[QUOTE=gts]Hey GOBB,
I read he already is suing them. Once for something that happened in 2011, once for something that happened in 2012 and now he can add 2013. Hat Trick![/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=gts]Hey GOBB,
I read he already is suing them. Once for something that happened in 2011, once for something that happened in 2012 and now he can add 2013. Hat Trick![/QUOTE]
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There is no amount of money you could give me for me to watch my dog being shot in front of me...but I am a dog person.
It's not illegal to record the police.
Why did he get arrested in the 1st place?
[QUOTE=brandonislegend]There is no amount of money you could give me for me to watch my dog being shot in front of me...but I am a dog person.[/QUOTE]
of course not, no normal person would do this................but this case can
[QUOTE=SpurrDurr]It's not illegal to record the police.
Why did he get arrested in the 1st place?[/QUOTE]
Because he's a black guy with a Rottweiler?
Owner's fault.
[QUOTE=fiddy]Owner's fault.[/QUOTE]
This.
I feel very sorry for the dog tho...
This is why I enjoy paying taxes, to feel safe from rottweilers while there is an armed robbery behind them with a hostage. I am glad they decided to cuff someone that did nothing wrong (it is legal to record police officers in California) all while right behind them a series crime is still going on. That poor dog, RIP.
[QUOTE=brandonislegend]This is why I enjoy paying taxes, to feel safe from rottweilers while there is an armed robbery behind them with a hostage. I am glad they decided to cuff someone that did nothing wrong (it is legal to record police officers in California) all while right behind them a series crime is still going on. That poor dog, RIP.[/QUOTE]
Calm the **** down.
**** the police
[QUOTE=SpurrDurr]It's not illegal to record the police.
Why did he get arrested in the 1st place?[/QUOTE]
He was not arrested, he was detained for interfering with a fcking hostage situation. There is a SWAT truck in the background and a dozen parked police cars. They just entered that house and were trying to secure the area when this jackass rolls up blaring music. He then parks as close as possible to the crime scene, gets out and starts antagonizing cops over imaginary civil rights bullshit.
There were a dozen other people there filming the police and none of them had any problems whatsoever.He brought the entire situation upon himself.
The only pity here is for the dog who had the misfortune to have such a fcking retarded owner.
[QUOTE=kuniva_dAMiGhTy]This video tore me up. What a stupid ****ing cop.[/QUOTE]
Uhm, the photographer was the idiot.
I feel for the dog, it looked like a loyal companion but this is completely on the guy's hands. The cop didn't immediately shoot the dog, they even attempted to restrain him but he continued to be aggressive and was shot.
It wasn't a damn poodle either, it was a rotty.
The actions were justified, in my opinion.
[QUOTE=bmulls]He was not arrested, he was detained for interfering with a fcking hostage situation. There is a SWAT truck in the background and a dozen parked police cars. They just entered that house and were trying to secure the area when this jackass rolls up blaring music. He then parks as close as possible to the crime scene, gets out and starts antagonizing cops over imaginary civil rights bullshit.
There were a dozen other people there filming the police and none of them had any problems whatsoever.He brought the entire situation upon himself.
The only pity here is for the dog who had the misfortune to have such a fcking retarded owner.[/QUOTE]
The guy had a problem with them parking 4 vehicles on the road (blocking the road), guy is a moron.
[QUOTE=Bandito]he was scared the dog was going to bite him. What did you expect him to do? Wait to get bitten? I would have done the exact same thing. It's me or the dog. It was completely justified.[/QUOTE]
Why'd he keep moving towards the dog then? If you are scared a dog is going to bite you, you don't move towards it.
[QUOTE=GOBB]Cops have maced and tasered people often without WARNING. Postal workers do this do prevent, fend off dog attacks. This was a classic case of the cops STICKING it to the guy they disliked for challenging their authority. Period.
What a joke.
And when is it illegal to film cops so long as you are not preventing them from doing their duty? Cops think its illegal but its not. They got upset and reacted locking up someone for no reason then killing his dog. Hope the owner sues the f*ck out of them and gets paid. Expensive bullets idiot cops[/QUOTE]
They didn't kill the dog on purpose. The dog ATTACKED the police and they had to put him down AFTER trying to restrain the dog initially. That moron looked like he wanted to be arrested, carefully analyze the guys body language. The way he was walking towards them looked like he was ready to punch them or something.
He then locked his dog in the car, with windows wide open.
The definition of an idiot.
[QUOTE=rhythmic
dog didnbt deserve it, but owner did
[QUOTE=Phantom_Blue]I think most of us can agree that the guy sucks as an owner, but I still don't see why the dog had to be shot.
The dog did not have to die, not to mention you approach any dog like that and they're not going to react in a friendly manner. He approached it once and it reactedly negatively, then the guy goes back in to try it a second time, wtf was he thinking.[/QUOTE]
Well I think it is obvious he wasn't thinking and he needs to be punished for that. Completely uncalled for.
Generally speak I support recording the police, but there is a time and place for everything. An armed robbery situation isn't the time to go harass police officers about the lack of diversity on the force and blare your music loudly at them. If you want to make this complaint at almost any other time I would support you, but during an armed robbery situation maybe don't go over and start stuff with police officers already busy and stressed.
Now with that said it is tragic the dog had to die. But I understand why the cop did that. The dog was a threat, probably not a mortal threat, but a dog bite could have seriously wounded an officer. I put 70% of the blame on the owner, and 30% on the cop.
[QUOTE=SpurrDurr]It's not illegal to record the police.
Why did he get arrested in the 1st place?[/QUOTE]
Armed robbers barricaded themselves in their victims house
This guy drives up to them blares his radio loudly making it harder for them to hear what's going on inside the house and communicate.
Guy starts to question why there are no black cops.
I think the guy acted totally unreasonably. I don't think it was ridiculous to arrest the guy in that situation. There were lots of people recording the cops. He is the only one that got arrested, because he insisted on inserting himself into the situation.
[QUOTE=brandonislegend]Because he's a black guy with a Rottweiler?[/QUOTE]
You wouldn't have arrested him in that situation?
-your outside a victim's house where the armed robbers have barricaded themselves in the house
-random guy comes up and blasts loud music, thereby hindering your communication and ability to hear what is going on in the house.
-He walks close to you
-refuses to turn down his music and go away.
-starts to criticise you for the lack of diversity
Its a stressful situation already, and he was being an irritant on purpose in order to get attention.
People mentioning that the cops were already in a stressful situation need to realize these guys are paid to handle stressful situations. It's not the dog's fault he encountered a trigger happy piece of shit.
Cops are the sickest animals on this planet and it's sad how protected they are by society. Absolutely sickening above the law ****s
[QUOTE=daily]Never bring a Rottweiler to a gun fight.
I[B] feel sorry for the dog but his owner is an idiot[/B][/QUOTE]
That's all there is to this story, loyal dog, dumbazz owner
[QUOTE=Scholar]People mentioning that the cops were already in a stressful situation need to realize these guys are paid to handle stressful situations. It's not the dog's fault he encountered a trigger happy piece of shit.[/QUOTE]
There are two faults here. Just because the police are at fault for shooting the dog doesn't mean the owner is justified in his behaviour.
Do you know what handling a stressful situation means? It includes the category - making sure people passing by don't interject themselves into the situation because it might compromise it. Their job is as much to handle the immediate situation as it is to make sure that other people are not interfering in it. Dozens of people were filming, yet this guy drew their attention because of his behaviour.
The dog is the victim in the story, just because the guy owned the dog doesn't make him a victim too. Unless you call him a victim of his own reckless and stupid behaviour.
The cops should have never messed with the guy to begin with. THAT'S what caused the dog to get shot.
Just for clarification, here's the timeline of events:
1. Guy is on the street corner, dog on leash, recording the cops.
2. Two cops half a block up start discussing his presence.
3. They begin to walk towards him after staring at him.
4. The guy puts his dog in the car and walks toward the cops.
5. The cop motions for him to turn around, and detains him.
6. The two cops then assault the man, and the dog starts barking and gets out of the car.
7. The dog goes over to the cops and starts barking for his owner.
8. The cop reaches out for the dog, but not for the leash.
9. When the dog bucks up at the officer, he shoots him four times.
Since it is not illegal to film public servants in the commission of their duties, nor is it illegal to have a dog on a leash, the cops instigated the actions that took place, and are fully responsible for the results.
Simply put, those cops who assaulted him, arrested him, and shot his dog are all engaged in criminal acts, to which this department is doing it's very best to tap dance away from and cover up.
There were extra cops (the ones involved) why didn't they set up a perimeter?
[QUOTE=brandonislegend]The cops should have never messed with the guy to begin with. THAT'S what caused the dog to get shot.
Just for clarification, here's the timeline of events:
1. Guy is on the street corner, dog on leash, recording the cops.
2. Two cops half a block up start discussing his presence.
3. They begin to walk towards him after staring at him.
4. The guy puts his dog in the car and walks toward the cops.
5. The cop motions for him to turn around, and detains him.
6. The two cops then assault the man, and the dog starts barking and gets out of the car.
7. The dog goes over to the cops and starts barking for his owner.
8. The cop reaches out for the dog, but not for the leash.
9. When the dog bucks up at the officer, he shoots him four times.
Since it is not illegal to film public servants in the commission of their duties, nor is it illegal to have a dog on a leash, the cops instigated the actions that took place, and are fully responsible for the results.
Simply put, those cops who assaulted him, arrested him, and shot his dog are all engaged in criminal acts, to which this department is doing it's very best to tap dance away from and cover up.
There were extra cops (the ones involved) why didn't they set up a perimeter?[/QUOTE]
What about blaring his music so loud and refuse to cooperate when they told him to turn it down and not be too close to the area?
Why didn't they put a perimeter up? There was a swat team handling the situation plus how many extra cops? How hard it is to put a barricade or tape up? The irony of the whole story is they arrest him for video taping, and after all this bullshit happened they are now asking the community to send in their videos so they can see what happened... What a ****ing joke of a police department.
[QUOTE=iamgine]What about blaring his music so loud and refuse to cooperate when they told him to turn it down and not be too close to the area?[/QUOTE]Or blocking the intersection to begin with and having to be told to move the car. Then he moves the car to the curb gets out but leaves music blaring. Tells cops to "f*ck off it's my radio" when they ask him to turn it down. tells cops he's there to protect people's civil rights.
[QUOTE=brandonislegend]Why didn't they put a perimeter up? There was a swat team handling the situation plus how many extra cops? How hard it is to put a barricade or tape up? The irony of the whole story is they arrest him for video taping, and after all this bullshit happened they are now asking the community to send in their videos so they can see what happened... What a ****ing joke of a police department.[/QUOTE]
So if they didn't put up a perimeter it's okay to just waltz in with a boombox. Even after told otherwise by a policeman. :facepalm
Meh I am not saying the dog owner wasn't at fault of course he was, but most civilians are ****ing retarded, cops have more power than any regular civilian therefore should have better judgement.
They executed the dog.
[QUOTE=brandonislegend]Meh I am not saying the dog owner wasn't at fault of course he was, but most civilians are ****ing retarded, cops have more power than any regular civilian therefore should have better judgement.[/QUOTE]
I think they handled it like it should be handled. Detain the troublemaker. Kill a hostile dog.
If the dog had jumped the police, the discussion would be "why didn't the police shoot it beforehand when they see it's very hostile. What retarded cops."
[QUOTE=iamgine]I think they handled it like it should be handled. Detain the troublemaker. Kill a hostile dog.
If the dog had jumped the police, the discussion would be "why didn't the police shoot it beforehand when they see it's very hostile. What retarded cops."[/QUOTE] Or if he bit the owner while handcuffed, People forget that once a person is cuffed they are the responsibility of the PD to be kept safe.
And everyone spare me the why would the dog bite it's owner questions. Dogs are odd and can react to stress in odd ways
I still feel bad for the dog. I still think the owner is an idiot but now that I've read up on him I think he's an assh*le and an idiot, this situation was 100% provoked on his part. He just didn't get the outcome he was hoping for.
[QUOTE=daily]Or if he bit the owner while handcuffed, People forget that once a person is cuffed they are the responsibility of the PD to be kept safe.
And everyone spare me the why would the dog bite it's owner questions. Dogs are odd and can react to stress in odd ways
I still feel bad for the dog. I still think the owner is an idiot but now that I've read up on him I think he's an assh*le and an idiot, this situation was 100% provoked on his part. He just didn't get the outcome he was hoping for.[/QUOTE]
Meh I say 70% his fault 30% cops...both were morons that day.
[QUOTE=brandonislegend]Meh I say 70% his fault 30% cops...both were morons that day.[/QUOTE]
Nah just the owner
[QUOTE=brandonislegend]Meh I am not saying the dog owner wasn't at fault of course he was, but most civilians are ****ing retarded, cops have more power than any regular civilian therefore should have better judgement.
They executed the dog.[/QUOTE]
Do you know what an execution is? Did the police officer have full control of the dog? Seriously, bunch of idiots on this board.
The police officer was supposedly going for the leash? Let me ask why he was going for the leash. It's not like having a leash would effectively stop the dog, if the dog was indeed dangerous.
From the video, I see the police officer provoking the dog. Again, what makes one think that he was grabbing the leash? There's a reason why dog catchers have one of these.
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It was provocation. The dog already backed off and sniffing the ground. The cop aggressively approaches the dog with gun in hand and ready to shoot.
They were tired of the dog owner and to get him back for all his trash talking was to shoot his dog.
Both sides made mistakes. I mean the guy provoked the cops by filming them and not doing what he should be doing. He didn't even secure the dog inside his car. The cops have the right to do what they did to the guy and the killing of the dog was just the result of the carelessness of the owner.
And about the killing of the dog, it's completely justified. What would you do if a hostile dog tried to attack you and you can't just run but you have a gun? Just let it bite you? No. You shoot it for your own or other people's safety. I was just wondering why they don't have a taser to use or let the owner get his pet calmed, though. The cops hold some of the blame but it's mostly the owner's fault. Still, I feel bad for the dog, and for the cops who are now in the hot seat because the general public blame them for the killing of them dog when it was the owners fault that his pet got killed.
Did you guys watch the video?
The police shot the mans dog, not the dogs owner.
The police had no reason to even approach the man, he wasn't doing anything illegal. They illegally detained him.
Instead of killing an innocent dog I would have either simply brushed it away, uncuff the man and allow him to detain his dog, or at the most SEVERE I would have tazed the dog.
But the cops in this video are pieces of sh1t, like most cops.
Trained in combat, armed and dangerous.
-vs-
A dog.
Do you guys not see what's wrong here? A trained and armed man is afraid of a dog? They executed the dog. If the dog wanted to bite, it would have did it the first time. They don't stop in their tracks. This particular dog stopped and went sniffing. Till the officer approached it with a foreign object, unknown to the dog.