Without KG, Pierce, Allen, Would Rondo Have Become As Good?

[QUOTE=Black and White]Rondo and Howards cases are completely seperate, did Dwight miss as many games as Rondo?????[/QUOTE]

You know, if anything the point you bring up goes against your argument. Rondo can't even stay healthy, so his value decreases even more. You are saying we should give him a chance to prove himself no?

They're not completely separate. Did you conveniently forget about Howard's back injury? Sorry buddy, but you have to stay consistent, otherwise it becomes a double standard.

Applying the same logic:

If Rondo is an elite PG because of what he did 2 yrs ago, then that means Houston Dwight Howard is an elite big man, still in his prime.

Or:

Rondo is not an elite PG, he hasn't done anything the past two years for anyone of us to claim he's elite.
Dwight Howard isn't in his prime anymore, this isn't 2012. He is no longer elite.

See how I applied the same logic? So which one is it?

[QUOTE=IncarceratedBob]Kobe, Gasol,[B] LeBron[/B] in 2010

LeBron, Durant, Parker in 2012

I would rank Rondo around 4-8 in each year of playoffs but still that doesn't mean anything. He had a good squad that made deep CF runs those years. Replace him on those teams with legit stars like Tony Parker, Chris Paul, Russell Westbrook, Derrick Rose, etc then the Celtics might actually win something.

5th best player in the playoffs doesn't mean anything, but if it helps you sleep better at night then go for it. GL winning with Raon Rondo as your best player[/QUOTE]

Rondo clearly outplayed LeBron in the 2010 playoffs though that was somewhat due to LeBron disappearing after game 3. Rondo had a great series nevertheless and a great playoff run. Same thing could be said about every season from 2009 to 2012. I really don't think it is hard as you make it seem to win with Rondo as the best player. In fact they were a quarter away from doing that in 2010 against a great Lakers team. Many of the Pgs you've mentioned have not really been in that situation despite having good teams themselves.

It definitely helped.. turned Rondo into one of the best playoff performer PG since 2010.

Post CP3, D-Rose, Westbrook playoff series of

21/12/6, 54FG
24/8/4, 51FG
19/12/7, 50FG
21/11/7, 48FG


All with elite defense. Rondo's surely comparable.. hes been the best player in a series featuring Lebron James, Ray Allen, KG etc.

I'm a celtic Fan... ROndo is overrated trash.... We need to get rid of him...He's nothing without the big 3. They Made him. He was a liability on offense and his excessiv ball domination and assists whoring made our offense stagnant. He has a horrible attitude and he makes his teammates one dimensional. Ship him somewhere where he can ride to coat tails of another big 3...

[QUOTE=I.R.Beast]I'm a celtic Fan... ROndo is overrated trash.... We need to get rid of him...He's nothing without the big 3. They Made him. He was a liability on offense and his excessiv ball domination and assists whoring made our offense stagnant. He has a horrible attitude and he makes his teammates one dimensional. Ship him somewhere where he can ride to coat tails of another big 3...[/QUOTE]

It was Doc's system and personnel that made the offense stagnant.

And I don't see where he has a bad attitude. Other than salty Ray Allen, every teammate of Rondo's has called him a hard-working and sacrificial teammate. Scalabrine debunked that myth many times. He practices as hard as anybody and puts it all out on the floor for his team.

[B]Rondo has been the overall most successful point guard in the playoffs of the last 5 years.[/B]

Rondo is the best the NBA has ever seen at beating guys off the dribble. There's a reason everyone gives him 4 feet of space; he can't shoot and you can't ball pressure him. It's been that way since his Eastern HS days.

[QUOTE=tpols]It definitely helped.. turned Rondo into one of the best playoff performer PG since 2010.

Post CP3, D-Rose, Westbrook playoff series of

21/12/6, 54FG
24/8/4, 51FG
19/12/7, 50FG
21/11/7, 48FG


All with elite defense. Rondo's surely comparable.. hes been the best player in a series featuring Lebron James, Ray Allen, KG etc.[/QUOTE]

*Since 2009 actually. His series against the bulls was unreal.

YouGotServed and DMV2 are the greatest posters of all-time. :pimp:

No way. Being on the court with 3 HOF level midrange and long range shooters would make any average PG look good.


Rondo is a ball dominant PG defensive 7th man level roleplayer. I have been saying it for years. Glad others are starting to see it as well.

[QUOTE=FaceBack]Rondo is the best the NBA has ever seen at beating guys off the dribble. There's a reason everyone gives him 4 feet of space; he can't shoot and you can't ball pressure him. It's been that way since his Eastern HS days.[/QUOTE]
There's a reason he couldn't beat people off the dribble after his HOF shooter buddies left him and stopped giving him all that spacing. People give him 4 feet of space because they want him to shoot his 20% clunky jump shot.

[QUOTE=Pushxx]It was Doc's system and personnel that made the offense stagnant.

And I don't see where he has a bad attitude. Other than salty Ray Allen, every teammate of Rondo's has called him a hard-working and sacrificial teammate. Scalabrine debunked that myth many times. He practices as hard as anybody and puts it all out on the floor for his team.

[B]Rondo has been the overall most successful point guard in the playoffs of the last 5 years.[/B][/QUOTE]
Team USA coaches say he has a bad diva attitude.

He's not been the same since his injury. I hope he can get himself back together.

[QUOTE=DMV2]YouGotServed and DMV2 are the greatest posters of all-time. :pimp:[/QUOTE]

You didn't PM me about this thread bro, are you ok?

[QUOTE=BlackWhiteGreen]You didn't PM me about this thread bro, are you ok?[/QUOTE]
Didn't need to, the facts are right in front of us. Rondo sucks without the Big 3.

I just hope this will open your mind a little bit on being an unbiased fan instead of being blind homer like the rest of your fellow Celtic fans.

[QUOTE=DMV2]YouGotServed and DMV2 are the greatest posters of all-time. :pimp:[/QUOTE]

God I'm such a genius when it comes to basketball. To everyone who doubted my word: Here, hold this L, b.

The YGS stays winning

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People are really enjoying their necro bumps today. Way to go, Rondo.

[QUOTE=IncarceratedBob]He isn't that great in the first place
10 pts 10 rebounds with great defense is a nice player but thats it. sounds like a role player to me, which is what he was when he actually won something.[/QUOTE]


Try 10 pts 10 reb 10asts that was the rondo of old. And those were normal stat lines for the man.