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[QUOTE=Cool]How can you say that? When Lebron almost took off D-Wades neck they dont review it or do anything. But Kobe accidentally comes down on somebody because he is trying to draw a foul. They need to suspend both to look consistent. Cause right now they look like immature babies who dont know what the hell there doing.[/QUOTE]
Perhaps if the Heat had contacted the league about Lebron's clothesline then he would have received a suspension.
[QUOTE=wild orchid]Perhaps if the Heat had contacted the league about Lebron's clothesline then he would have received a suspension.[/QUOTE]
What does that have to do with anything? I dont get it.
I don't think kobe is trying to injure anybody by doing this. I think it's just a stupid way to try and draw a foul. This did work once you know. He did that same arm fling thing against the jazz at the end of a game and the ref was too busy looking at kobe's feet (to see if he was shooting a 3 or a 2) that he really thought kobe got fouled. If this doesn't teach kobe to stop doing it though, nothing will.
Cool, I would like your opinion on the meaning of life.
[QUOTE=LakerRaider]Cool, I would like your opinion on the meaning of life.[/QUOTE]
:wtf:
[QUOTE=LakerRaider]Cool, I would like your opinion on the meaning of life.[/QUOTE]
lol. The meaning of life is to marry a hypello!
Anyone that knows where that is from is really cool in my book.
[QUOTE]The guy sounds like he had a steaknife omelet for breakfast.[/QUOTE]:roll:
[QUOTE=Mewwem22]lol. The meaning of life is to marry a hypello!
Anyone that knows where that is from is really cool in my book.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Hypello[/url]
[QUOTE]"I haven't seen the replay, but if you ask me what I thought about the play when it happened, [B]I don't think he did it intentionally, and I don't think players should be suspended for things that happen unintentionally[/B]," Jaric told ESPN.com. "[B]I think he was trying to draw a foul, and he swung his hand out to make it look dramatic, and he hit me by accident. He apologized right after[/B]."[/QUOTE]
[url]http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2790534[/url]
Been posted once already, but this bears repeating. The guy he hit - a fellow pro basketball player and not some Internet prosecutor - [B]doesn't[/B] think Kobe meant to hit him in the face, [B]doesn't [/B]think he should be suspended, and [B]does [/B]think all Kobe was trying to do was draw a foul. I guess that's "Marko Logic" for you.
Do yall think the Kobe Raja Bell feud has anything to do with this.
[QUOTE=Laker Logic][url]http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2790534[/url]
Been posted once already, but this bears repeating. The guy he hit - a fellow pro basketball player and not some Internet prosecutor - [B]doesn't[/B] think Kobe meant to hit him in the face, [B]doesn't [/B]think he should be suspended, and [B]does [/B]think all Kobe was trying to do was draw a foul. I guess that's "Marko Logic" for you.[/QUOTE]
of course he would say these things because he does not want to sound bitter on TV but deep inside he was cursing kobe.
Thats NBA league decision the most dirty and unethical of professional sports in the USA compare to other professional league. Why?
the league hates Kobe so much, but how about those three blind mice, how come they dont get suspended and get fined any of those refs. when they fixed games. Games should be review on each game and make sure to penalized refs who fixed games... Anyways who told those referees to fixed games maybe the league itself.
and counting the other way around I havent heard the NBA suspended or penalized anyone who hit Kobe intentionally, its always Kobe who gets the hit if he retaliates. Its very unfair and unethical of the league.
in all fairness to Stern and Stu Jackson, i think Kobe deserves to be suspended for that arm motion after a block shot.. intentional or not, it's just a dangerous play, and Kobe should know better...especially since he has been suspended before for the same action..
the problem is, I think it's a natural reaction from Kobe.. it probably didn't even cross his mind that he will hit Jaric.. he just did it to draw the foul...
but please stop with this Kobe is a dirty player... if he is such a dirty player, then why Manu or Jaric both said Kobe didn't do it to intentionally.. and both time both player said that Kobe apologize for the "accidental" hit..
Konex makes a thread about Kobe and moments later he gets suspended, this dude is my favorite Laker fan by far!! [IMG]http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w5/NashIsBest/smileyrofl2.gif[/IMG]
This exactly what Phil said about the suspenision.
[QUOTE]But Jackson stands by his decision.
"I'm not in the business of reading players' minds, I'm simply evaluating the play as a basketball play," Jackson told The Associated Press. "And when you take a shot and follow through, followed by driving an arm back in an aggressive manner that strikes a defender in his face, that's what we evaluated to be a non-acceptable play."
Lakers coach Phil Jackson weighed in on the suspension and defended Bryant.
"If they're going to make a call, even if they're wrong, they'll still be consistent," Jackson said.
He added, "I think I'm going to have to put about 50 clips of Kobe shooting his shot and his arms going out like that so the judger of this deed of Kobe's sees that he does this a lot," Jackson said. [B]"It's not an unnatural basketball motion."[/B][/QUOTE]
[B][URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2790534"]http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2790534[/URL][/B]
[QUOTE=Cool]What does that have to do with anything? I dont get it.[/QUOTE]
The league does not get involved unless the opposing team files a complaint.
[QUOTE=wild orchid]The league does not get involved unless the opposing team files a complaint.[/QUOTE]
Your wrong there. Because Timberwolves didnt say nothing. Even Jaric said he was surprised about the suspension. And Manu said he called the league and said it was unintentional and Kobe didnt mean it. So I dont know were your getting this from.
[QUOTE=Cool]Your wrong there. Because Timberwolves didnt say nothing. Even Jaric said he was surprised about the suspension. And Manu said he called the league and said it was unintentional and Kobe didnt mean it. So I dont know were your getting this from.[/QUOTE]
its just the way things are now. We all can thank Ron Artest for this over active witch hunt of an NBA we have these days. Too bad for future generations.
[QUOTE=KobeMVP]Thats NBA league decision the most dirty and unethical of professional sports in the USA compare to other professional league. Why?
the league hates Kobe so much, but how about those three blind mice, how come they dont get suspended and get fined any of those refs. when they fixed games. Games should be review on each game and make sure to penalized refs who fixed games... Anyways who told those referees to fixed games maybe the league itself.
and counting the other way around I havent heard the NBA suspended or penalized anyone who hit Kobe intentionally, its always Kobe who gets the hit if he retaliates. Its very unfair and unethical of the league.[/QUOTE]
[B]I used to think like you, that the league hates kobe but I've been watching kobe closely and he is indeed a dirty player and you know what he deserve to be suspended what he's doing is dangerous, he could have easily crack the skull of Manu and JAric and ended their careers.
Having said that I know both Manu and Jaric said that kobe didn't do it intentionally but they know it was intentional they just dont want to make big deal out of it and they dont get mad they get even.[/B]
[QUOTE=KobeMVP]Thats NBA league decision the most dirty and unethical of professional sports in the USA compare to other professional league. Why?
the league hates Kobe so much, but how about those three blind mice, how come they dont get suspended and get fined any of those refs. when they fixed games. Games should be review on each game and make sure to penalized refs who fixed games... Anyways who told those referees to fixed games maybe the league itself.
and counting the other way around I havent heard the NBA suspended or penalized anyone who hit Kobe intentionally, its always Kobe who gets the hit if he retaliates. Its very unfair and unethical of the league.[/QUOTE]
Lakersground.net, there you can share you're delusional basketball opinions about why Kobe, Lord of Olympus, King of the Heavens is unjustly kept from winning a championship, scoring title, and MVP each and every season.
[QUOTE=Cool]Your wrong there. Because Timberwolves didnt say nothing. Even Jaric said he was surprised about the suspension. And Manu said he called the league and said it was unintentional and Kobe didnt mean it. So I dont know were your getting this from.[/QUOTE]
Trust me. Somebody from those organizations called the league. I am aware of what they say publicly but someone maybe a GM, asst. GM, VP, or owner called the league.
[QUOTE=icemanfan]its just the way things are now. We all can thank Ron Artest for this over active witch hunt of an NBA we have these days. Too bad for future generations.[/QUOTE]
While I don't condone the rule changes that favor perimeter players and lessen the importance of defense, I do think the game needs to clean up a little in terms of dirty antics and over-the-top flopping acts, make players focus on basketball.
[QUOTE=TMan]While I don't condone the rule changes that favor perimeter players and lessen the importance of defense, I do think the game needs to clean up a little in terms of dirty antics and over-the-top flopping acts, make players focus on basketball.[/QUOTE]
if you recall, most aging stars ended their careers shortly after they started assaulting people aka Michael Irvin, Dallas Cowboys.... any sport man... Kobe is losing not only his talent but his mind too man.... finally...
[QUOTE=wild orchid]Trust me. Somebody from those organizations called the league. I am aware of what they say publicly but someone maybe a GM, asst. GM, VP, or owner called the league.[/QUOTE]
That does not make any sense. Somebody just called to get him suspended but they flat out said they knew he wasnt doing any harm. And the Manu situation, the Spurs called the League and said Kobe did not mean to do anything. And Jaric like I said, said he knew it was unintentional. Why would people just call? That must mean they dont have anything to do. So there just callin cause there bored.
[QUOTE=Cool]That does not make any sense. Somebody just called to get him suspended but they flat out said they knew he wasnt doing any harm. And the Manu situation, the Spurs called the League and said Kobe did not mean to do anything. And Jaric like I said, said he knew it was unintentional. Why would people just call? That must mean they dont have anything to do. So there just callin cause there bored.[/QUOTE]
they called because they're tired of kobe's dirty antics, he's hurting people and that is not right.
[QUOTE=Cool]That does not make any sense. Somebody just called to get him suspended but they flat out said they knew he wasnt doing any harm. And the Manu situation, the Spurs called the League and said Kobe did not mean to do anything. And Jaric like I said, said he knew it was unintentional. Why would people just call? That must mean they dont have anything to do. So there just callin cause there bored.[/QUOTE]
We only know what Jaric and Ginobli said publicly. We do not know what they said behind closed doors. Players will not admit to initiating or co-signing on a complaint about another player. When the first incident happened Greg Anthony mentioned the league does not get involved unless they got a call from someone representing the opposing team. A couple of days later there was an article posted on this board that indicated Ginobli and Popopvich felt Kobe may have struck Ginobli on purpose. I will see if I can find it.
[QUOTE=HollaBolla]they called because they're tired of kobe's dirty antics, he's hurting people and that is not right.[/QUOTE]
Great argument. He is hurting players. :rollingeyes:. Anyways Listen to what Phil says then tell me what you think. And please keep and open mind because right now you sound like a major Kobe H@ter.
[QUOTE]But Jackson stands by his decision.
"I'm not in the business of reading players' minds, I'm simply evaluating the play as a basketball play," Jackson told The Associated Press. "And when you take a shot and follow through, followed by driving an arm back in an aggressive manner that strikes a defender in his face, that's what we evaluated to be a non-acceptable play."
Lakers coach Phil Jackson weighed in on the suspension and defended Bryant.
"If they're going to make a call, even if they're wrong, they'll still be consistent," Jackson said.
He added, "I think I'm going to have to put about 50 clips of Kobe shooting his shot and his arms going out like that so the judger of this deed of Kobe's sees that he does this a lot," Jackson said. "It's not an unnatural basketball motion."[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=wild orchid]We only know what Jaric and Ginobli said publicly. We do not know what they said behind closed doors. Players will not admit to initiating or co-signing on a complaint about another player. When the first incident happened Greg Anthony mentioned the league does not get involved unless they got a call from someone representing the opposing team. A couple of days later there was an article posted on this board that indicated Ginobli and Popopvich felt Kobe may have struck Ginobli on purpose. I will see if I can find it.[/QUOTE]
They said themselves and a report on ESPN said that the League has been reviewing the tape all day to see if it was similar to the Manu hit. And thats why they looked at it. They wanted to look like they were being consistent. Which they are not looking consistent because they never suspended Lebron for almost taking off D-Wades head. Its a bunch of BS.
[QUOTE=Leviathon1121]Lakersground.net, there you can share you're delusional basketball opinions about why Kobe, Lord of Olympus, King of the Heavens is unjustly kept from winning a championship, scoring title, and MVP each and every season.[/QUOTE]
Who's dillusional? probably you because Kobe won 3 championship ring already and scoring title as he broke records and continuing on. This is a conspiracy going on to Kobe. The nail to Jarics face and everyone else by Kobe is an statement from him that defensively player should also be aware that they are also vulnerable of being hit, even if they are in the defensive end they should defend themselves.
[QUOTE=Cool]Great argument. He is hurting players. :rollingeyes:. Anyways Listen to what Phil says then tell me what you think. And please keep and open mind because right now you sound like a major Kobe H@ter.[/QUOTE]
why is it that when u criticize kobe? ur immediately labeled a h@ter, watch the video dude, its intentional, I like kobe, all am saying is he needs to stop this dirty antics, he can seriously hurt and end somebody's career.
anyways, PJ's comments is nothing new, he suck up to his star player all the time so this statement is for kobe.
[QUOTE=HollaBolla][B]I used to think like you, that the league hates kobe but I've been watching kobe closely and he is indeed a dirty player and you know what he deserve to be suspended what he's doing is dangerous, he could have easily crack the skull of Manu and JAric and ended their careers.
Having said that I know both Manu and Jaric said that kobe didn't do it intentionally but they know it was intentional they just dont want to make big deal out of it and they dont get mad they get even.[/B][/QUOTE]
What I see on the play is that Kobe is just defending himself because the arms of Jaric can hit him hard if he did not wave it. Youll never know if somebody wants to harm you or give a flagrant foul, and because he has been hit gazillion times without even penalizing the opponent he needs to defend himself not to get hurt and be sidelined again with an injury.
[QUOTE=Cool]They said themselves and a report on ESPN said that the League has been reviewing the tape all day to see if it was similar to the Manu hit. And thats why they looked at it. They wanted to look like they were being consistent. Which they are not looking consistent because they never suspended Lebron for almost taking off D-Wades head. Its a bunch of BS.[/QUOTE]
How about reviewing consistency of referees call???? It will make a big!!!!!! difference to the league and its ethics as a professional sports.
[QUOTE=Cool]They said themselves and a report on ESPN said that the League has been reviewing the tape all day to see if it was similar to the Manu hit. And thats why they looked at it. They wanted to look like they were being consistent. Which they are not looking consistent because they never suspended Lebron for almost taking off D-Wades head. Its a bunch of BS.[/QUOTE]
They reviewed the tape after somebody called to complain. You can belive it or believe whatever you want.
[QUOTE=wild orchid]They reviewed the tape after somebody called to complain. You can belive it or believe whatever you want.[/QUOTE]
I will believe my theory and you believe yours. Because I feel this disagreement or argument, whatever you want to call it, will go nowhere.
[QUOTE=KobeMVP]What I see on the play is that Kobe is just defending himself because the arms of Jaric can hit him hard if he did not wave it. Youll never know if somebody wants to harm you or give a flagrant foul, and because he has been hit gazillion times without even penalizing the opponent he needs to defend himself not to get hurt and be sidelined again with an injury.[/QUOTE]
Translation: Do not attempt to defend Kobe Bryant in any way or you will be brutally hit upside the head as he defends himself. Take note referees that this is a defensive act to not get injured so no fouls need be called, no matter how much blood pours from the defender.
Do you actually read what you write? Amazing that anybody with any thought process at all could come up with this.
[QUOTE=Leviathon1121]Translation: Do not attempt to defend Kobe Bryant in any way or you will be brutally hit upside the head as he defends himself. Take note referees that this is a defensive act to not get injured so no fouls need be called, no matter how much blood pours from the defender.
Do you actually read what you write? Amazing that anybody with any thought process at all could come up with this.[/QUOTE]
I'm not attempting I'm doing it, just give me shot of what you've got youre not God I don't need your preaching, and I know your a die hard Kobe h a t e r. BTW do u notice something ur like the league and I'm Kobe your always pick on me plus +
Somebody is reading what I'm writing.. and that's you!!!!!!!!! The delusional one...:lol: :banana:
after the foolish decision to suspend kobe for the manu incident, the league had no choice but to suspend him for this one.
atleast theyre being consistent.
funny, the only thing the league is consistent at is suspending kobe.
[QUOTE=Dizzle-2k7]after the foolish decision to suspend kobe for the manu incident, the league had no choice but to suspend him for this one.
atleast theyre being consistent.
funny, the only thing the league is consistent at is suspending kobe.[/QUOTE]
I Agree 1,000%
your meaning to tell me kobe doesnt play dirty? how about the elbow he threw at mike miller last year? how do u kobe lovers defend that?
Jackson said he did not consult with the game referees before making his decision, relying solely on instant replay. He would not disclose whether the Spurs or Timberwolves lodged a complaint.
from the LA Times