The more I watch Lebron the more I am starting to think he's better than MJ

[QUOTE=Paul George 24]he will never as good as mj :no:[/QUOTE]

never as good, always better

[QUOTE=Teanett]he is not. he is not a better defender.
he might be a more willing passer but he is not a better passer.
and playmaker? no way. look at the 96 bulls triangle offense. perfect execution. there were games were the whole didnt have to take a single bad shot.

this media hype of lebron being this great basketball mind is disturbing. last night he passed out of a double team for the hockey assist on bosh's 3.
what is so genius about that? he made the correct play, that's it.
lebron still jacks up more bad shots than doug collins era jordan.
but just because he aint russell westbrook doenst mean he's on jordan's level of understanding the game of basketball.[/QUOTE]

you are making statements with no support...
next

[QUOTE=knicksman]no way is mj being stopped by boris diaw[/QUOTE]

hypothetical

next

[QUOTE=Teanett]so an intelligent arguement would be me coming up with stats to validate the existence of this jedi force... but that's not possible.

however, i and everybody who saw kobe and mj in their primes would feel very positive about either making the 2nd of a pair of free throw to get them to 50 points.

i cant explain why, maybe it's because we've never seen jordan average 17ppg in the finals, or seen him visibly shaking in his pants.[/QUOTE]

Jordan had his downs also
what s your point?

[QUOTE=tmacattack33]Good, I'm glad you found a way out of continuing your highly questionable argument.[/QUOTE]

it's highly questionable for you because you cant tell the difference between kobe and jordan or reggie miller and mitch richmond.

[QUOTE=livinglegend]Jordan had his downs also
what s your point?[/QUOTE]

jordan's "downs" are more like 34/6/6 on 52% in a loss not 17ppg...

[QUOTE=Teanett]jordan's "downs" are more like 34/6/6 on 52% in a loss not 17ppg...[/QUOTE]

how about his 3/18 against the Knicks

[QUOTE=livinglegend]how about his 3/18 against the Knicks[/QUOTE]

:facepalm

[QUOTE=livinglegend]how about his 3/18 against the Knicks[/QUOTE]

MJ had 21-8-11 2 TOs in a win

how bout lebron's 6/24 vs Boston....

21-5-6 7 TOs in a loss.


way worse.

[QUOTE=riseagainst]MJ had 21-8-11 2 TOs

how bout lebron's 6/24 vs Boston....

21-5-6 7 TOs[/QUOTE]

when did i say that lebron didnt have down.
Jordan had his downs, lebron also

[QUOTE=Teanett]:facepalm[/QUOTE]

how about his 5/19 and 5 turnovers in the finals

[QUOTE=Teanett]ft's are a part of the game, another part where lebron is inferior to both.[/QUOTE]

lol another part? that's pretty much the only department kobe is better than lebron.

[QUOTE=riseagainst]MJ had 21-8-11 2 TOs [B]in a win[/B]

how bout lebron's 6/24 vs Boston....

21-5-6 7 TOs in a loss.


way worse.[/QUOTE]

getting bail out by pippen s 29 points on 10-12 shooting

This seems to be said every year when Lebron is going through cupcake eastern conference opponents until he gets to the Finals and shoots his typical sub 30% from the perimeter and looks like a scared passive bitch where teams stand 5 feet from him and dare him to shoot. Then everyone gets a dose of reality and knows he will never be on Jordan's level.

[QUOTE=hitmanyr2k]This seems to be said every year when Lebron is going through cupcake eastern conference opponents until he gets to the Finals and shoots his typical sub 30% from the perimeter and looks like a scared passive bitch where teams stand 5 feet from him and dare him to shoot. Then everyone gets a dose of reality and knows he will never be on Jordan's level.[/QUOTE]

:lol
:applause:

[QUOTE=hitmanyr2k]This seems to be said every year when Lebron is going through cupcake eastern conference opponents until he gets to the Finals and shoots his typical sub 30% from the perimeter and looks like a scared passive bitch where teams stand 5 feet from him and dare him to shoot. Then everyone gets a dose of reality and knows he will never be on Jordan's level.[/QUOTE]
:applause:

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[QUOTE=hitmanyr2k]This seems to be said every year when Lebron is going through cupcake eastern conference opponents until he gets to the Finals and shoots his typical sub 30% from the perimeter and looks like a scared passive bitch where teams stand 5 feet from him and dare him to shoot. Then everyone gets a dose of reality and knows he will never be on Jordan's level.[/QUOTE]

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lol - i've never seen livinglegend so thirsty in a thread. if bron had a better fanbase he wouldn't look so bad on this board.

great game from james.

[QUOTE=diamenz]lol - i've never seen livinglegend so thirsty in a thread. if bron had a better fanbase he wouldn't look so bad on this board.

great game from james.[/QUOTE]
Hes thirsty for lebronze jizz

I have watched the NBA since the 80's and no question Lebron is the most polarizing Player since Prime Shaq and the best Player since MJ. He truly is the face of the NBA and one of the best players to ever play the game if U think about how good he was in HS all the hype and how he lived up to the Hype and in some ways surpassed it. I think Lebron need another 5 great/very good seasons with at least another 2 titles to be put in best ever conversation but as it stands now he is one of the best players I and any of U have seen play and thus why he has so many haters.

[QUOTE=Kingwillball]I have watched the NBA since the 80's and no question Lebron is the most polarizing Player since Prime Shaq and the best Player since MJ. He truly is the face of the NBA and one of the best players to ever play the game if U think about how good he was in HS all the hype and how he lived up to the Hype and in some ways surpassed it. I think Lebron need another 5 great/very good seasons with at least another 2 titles to be put in best ever conversation but as it stands now he is one of the best players I and any of U have seen play and thus why he has so many haters.[/QUOTE]
Looking at your avy...doesn't mean much coming from you :roll:

[QUOTE=20Four]Looking at your avy...doesn't mean much coming from you :roll:[/QUOTE]


the irony of this post

[QUOTE=hitmanyr2k]This seems to be said every year when Lebron is going through cupcake eastern conference opponents until he gets to the Finals and shoots his typical sub 30% from the perimeter and looks like a scared passive bitch where teams stand 5 feet from him and dare him to shoot. Then everyone gets a dose of reality and knows he will never be on Jordan's level.[/QUOTE]
:applause: :applause: :applause:

If Lebron were to truly play at his full potential 48 minutes a game. He would be the closest to posting up Wilt's stats in modern day basketball.

But that is no promise to help him win rings.

Recognizing game scenarios and situations as well as team chemistry performance.

He can and will become greater than MJ

Greater, I didn't say better.

He wasn't better than KD for most of the year, and after 8 playoff games, he's the greatest ever? :lol

I think Jordan is the 2011-2014 Chicago Bulls of players... he is ALWAYS going "Championship on the line" hard. Always. The huge difference, though, is that he had "Miami Heat" talent. He quite literally probably maxed himself out. I have never really come away from a game thinking.... Jordan left a little out there. He could have done more.

Lebron, on the other hand... He may be more talented/better than MJ, but only when/if Lebron is playing at his "Championship on the line" level. He, just like Shaq, and probably many others before him, just tends to coast all too often to be considered the GOAT.

Lebron at his best and Jordan at his best? That's incredibly close. But taking the day-to-day play, games, etc... that's Jordan, and Lebron will likely never pass him. If he has not changed his "habits" by now, he likely won't.

Jordan Mythologists/Nostalgists are a funny, insecure group.

[QUOTE=atljonesbro]Jordan Mythologists/Nostalgists are a funny, insecure group.[/QUOTE]

Most insecure fan base by far. Their favorite player is retired so all they can do now is root for other players to fail, cheer on the Bobcats, and beat off to Space Jam. LeBron is better than their favorite player ever was.

Jordan will always be greater. LeBron is lacking the killer instinct.

[QUOTE=hitmanyr2k]This seems to be said every year when Lebron is going through cupcake eastern conference opponents until he gets to the Finals and shoots his typical sub 30% from the perimeter and looks like a scared passive bitch where teams stand 5 feet from him and dare him to shoot. Then everyone gets a dose of reality and knows he will never be on Jordan's level.[/QUOTE]
:applause:

[QUOTE=Alan Ogg]Jordan will always be greater. LeBron is lacking the killer instinct.[/QUOTE]

Agreed. LeBron would never be able to get a family member killed over gambling debts.

[QUOTE=SilkkTheShocker]Agreed. LeBron would never be able to get a family member killed over gambling debts.[/QUOTE]

yeah, he got his mom f****d by a teammate for no reason.

[QUOTE=atljonesbro]Jordan Mythologists/Nostalgists are a funny, insecure group.[/QUOTE]

Why do you repeat yourself in every thread, power glove?

Reality is not "nostalgia".. :oldlol:

Peak for peak, impact wise, its a tossup, but there's pretty much no chance Lebron surpasses Jordan career wise

LeBron took garbage to 60 win seasons. Jordan couldn't even win a playoff series without Pippen :oldlol: Hell, LeBron left the Cavs and they lost 26 straight games. Jordan leaves the Bulls and they win 55 games and go to 7 games in the ECSF :oldlol:

LeBron>>>>Jordan.

Jordan stans worship the worst GM ever, owner of shit franchise, degenerate gambling clown that has a small c.ock (ask Madonna). No wonder he is always so salty :lol Wouldn't even be shocked if LeBron was better baseball player :oldlol:

[QUOTE=Teanett]yeah, he got his mom f****d by a teammate for no reason.[/QUOTE]

so you grew up assuming your mom never had sex until you were how old?

[QUOTE=hitmanyr2k]This seems to be said every year when Lebron is going through cupcake eastern conference opponents until he gets to the Finals and shoots his typical sub 30% from the perimeter and looks like a scared passive bitch where teams stand 5 feet from him and dare him to shoot. Then everyone gets a dose of reality and knows he will never be on Jordan's level.[/QUOTE]

:lol

[QUOTE=SilkkTheShocker]LeBron took garbage to 60 win seasons. Jordan couldn't even win a playoff series without Pippen :oldlol: Hell, LeBron left the Cavs and they lost 26 straight games. Jordan leaves the Bulls and they win 55 games and go to 7 games in the ECSF :oldlol:

LeBron>>>>Jordan.

Jordan stans worship the worst GM ever, owner of shit franchise, degenerate gambling clown that has a small c.ock (ask Madonna). No wonder he is always so salty :lol Wouldn't even be shocked if LeBron was better baseball player :oldlol:[/QUOTE]

If I didn't know your history here, I would have guessed that you are an MJ stan. You are obsessed with him, you even know how big/small his c0ck is, and remember it religiously.
:wtf:
:biggums:

[QUOTE=eliteballer]:lol[/QUOTE]

Both are better than Kobe, what the **** you laughing at, boy :oldlol:

[QUOTE=Derivative]I know that MJ is the GOAT, but the more I watch Lebron these days the more I think that he's a more dominant player than MJ.

Even more so when I watch Cavaliers Lebron videos, [B]especially in 2009[/B], he was godlike during those years.[/QUOTE]

That same year when he won the MVP and then went on National TV and admitted he wasn't better than Kobe. That year, yes I remember.

Makes Kobe Goat of Goats then. It's nice to see a LeStan admit his boy is inferior to Kobe - even if doing so unconsciously.