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[QUOTE=-primetime-]ok well they don't really costs $1.25 to make....that is just the cost of labor
you have to add in the cost of design (millions)
materials
shipping
ect.
I am sure it ends up to be close to $20[/QUOTE]
sorry just reread what I typed.....screw up I'll fix it.
Btw it only cost Nike $5 to make a $180 shoe
[URL="http://www-personal.umich.edu/~lormand/poli/nike/nike101-4.htm"]http://www-personal.umich.edu/~lormand/poli/nike/nike101-4.htm[/URL]
not exactly high quality.
[QUOTE=KINGofTHEcourt]No, the materials are below $5, the shipping is low since they are transported in large bulk amounts. ANd what is "etc"? Couldn't think of anything else, so you just put "etc"? It all comes out to less than $10.[/QUOTE]
lebron's money
advertising
the fu-cking janitor that cleans up the left over leather...I don't know
[QUOTE=KINGofTHEcourt]You say "all the reviews" when you posted one link dumbass. I bet I could find tons of links saying that Nike makes crap shoes too.
And stop using cars as a comparison. The price and publicity comparision doesn't work on other things. I'll use gum as an example. You could buy Stride for $1.50 or SHopRite gum for $.75. In the end, its ****ing gum. Same thing here, in the end, they're still shoes. I'd like scientific proof that Nike is any better than Starbury, not some clown with an internet connection and a blog that you found on google.[/QUOTE]
like i said earlier...find me "one dumbass review" that says Starburys are good quality....better than the Lebrons
[QUOTE=TMac&Luther]sorry just reread what I typed.....screw up I'll fix it.
Btw it only cost Nike $5 to make a $180 shoe
[URL="http://www-personal.umich.edu/~lormand/poli/nike/nike101-4.htm"]http://www-personal.umich.edu/~lormand/poli/nike/nike101-4.htm[/URL]
[B][SIZE="3"]not exactly high quality[/SIZE][/B].[/QUOTE]
but still higher quality than the Starburys...
another review
[url]http://theassociation.blogs.com/the_association/2006/08/starbury_one_re.html[/url]
[I]...the tongue of the shoes looks like it's held in by cheap medical gauze. The leather is extremely thin, which means that the sole actually slips around when you walk. And the insole almost fell out when I pulled out the paper that they stuff into the shoe so it holds its shape.[/I]
From 2002:
[QUOTE]For every pair of Nike shoes, the sum of wages workers from all the three sectors receive is less than 80 cents. Besides these three sectors, other parts required for a pair of Nike shoes include, big soles, middle soles, leather, and other half-made products. This work is sometimes contracted out to other factories. For example, in 1997, YueYuen Shoes factory's middle sole production was temporarily subcontracted to Yongxin Shoes Factory, Dingshan Management District in Houjie Town. Lifeng Trade Mark Manufacturing Company, Sanyuan Management District, Dongguan.
Leather were processed by Weida Leather Factory in Hongmei Town of Dongguan, which is appointed especially to handle leather for Nike shoes by Nike. Raw material processing is given to Jiali Shoes Material Factory, Houjie Town, Dongguan. Adding all these up, on average, Nike pays less than USD$1 for producing one pair of Nike shoes to China's worker, less than USD$1.5 for Jordan Series. [/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.chinalaborwatch.org/reports/021025nike.htm[/url]
[QUOTE=-primetime-]but still higher quality than the Starburys...[/QUOTE]
I don't care about marbury's shoes............I said Nike's are a piece of crap and its a complete joke that LeBron thinks his company holds themselves to a higher standard, when the people that makes "his" shoes are starving in another country.
[QUOTE=-primetime-]another review
[url]http://theassociation.blogs.com/the_association/2006/08/starbury_one_re.html[/url]
[I]...the tongue of the shoes looks like it's held in by cheap medical gauze. The leather is extremely thin, which means that the sole actually slips around when you walk. And the insole almost fell out when I pulled out the paper that they stuff into the shoe so it holds its shape.[/I][/QUOTE]
You are actually taking a review of a guy who says stuff like this seriously???
[i]I got the All-Black Starbury's hoping they'd look like anyone else's shoe should these sneaks become a joke. That way from a distance no one will know I have them on.[/i]
If you're embarassed by the shoes you wear, you're either an idiot or in grade 5. Either way, exactly the kind of person those Nike ads are aimed at.
[QUOTE=gts]From 2002:
[url]http://www.chinalaborwatch.org/reports/021025nike.htm[/url][/QUOTE]
got'm
people just don't want to believe they actully get ripped off that much. if you wanted to review a nike shoe and make it negative, you could do it in a heartbeat.
i've had nike shoes that my foot busted out of while playing football(from cutting). and they were maybe 3 weeks old. high quality s hit right there
what's funny is that one day I bet the Starburys will be a complete joke at a basketball court...escpecially in high schools, I bet kids will get completely flamed for wearing them...
I appreciate what Marbury is trying to do here and this is the first time I have even heard of Starbury shoes but if you guys think that his shoes are going to over throw Nike or something because they are the same quality then you are wrong...
If Nike shoes cost 5 cents to make then the Starburys cost 1 cent...
if marbury wins he will have created a shoe that actually lasts longer than one game...and it doesn't look that way...what is the piont of a poor person saving money on a shoe that falls apart after 3 games of hoops?
[QUOTE=-primetime-]what's funny is that one day I bet the Starburys will be a complete joke at a basketball court...escpecially in high schools, I bet kids will get completely flamed for wearing them...
I appreciate what Marbury is trying to do here and this is the first time I have even heard of Starbury shoes but if you guys think that his shoes are going to over throw Nike or something because they are the same quality then you are wrong...
If Nike shoes cost 5 cents to make then the Starburys cost 1 cent...
if marbury wins he will have created a shoe that actually lasts longer than one game...and it doesn't look that way...what is the piont of a poor person saving money on a shoe that falls apart after 3 games of hoops?[/QUOTE]
just give it up man. you are obviously wrong. accept it
you are obviously in high school if you are worried about that stuff up there^^^
people have more important things to worry about in real life
[QUOTE=SomeBunghole]You are actually taking a review of a guy who says stuff like this seriously???
[i]I got the All-Black Starbury's hoping they'd look like anyone else's shoe should these sneaks become a joke. That way from a distance no one will know I have them on.[/i]
If you're embarassed by the shoes you wear, you're either an idiot or in grade 5. Either way, exactly the kind of person those Nike ads are aimed at.[/QUOTE]
I could only find 2 reviews...both of them ripping the Starburys in half...I guess they need more time for people to digest...
[QUOTE=TMac&Luther]I don't care about marbury's shoes............I said Nike's are a piece of crap and its a complete joke that LeBron thinks his company holds themselves to a higher standard, when the people that makes "his" shoes are starving in another country.[/QUOTE] your right and lebron knows full well that the nikes lebron, tiger, kobe, or whoever wears are built in beaverton oregon by hand... these guys don't wear the shoes we buy...
[QUOTE=mid80sjordan]just give it up man. you are obviously wrong. accept it
you are obviously in high school if you are worried about that stuff up there^^^
people have more important things to worry about in real life[/QUOTE]
I am not worried about it...Nike and Marbury are
high schoolers and kids are what determines if a shoe fails or not...not 60 year olds
and what am I wrong about exactly?
[QUOTE=-primetime-]I am not worried about it...Nike and Marbury are
high schoolers and kids are what determines if a shoe fails or not...not 60 year olds[/QUOTE]
marbury is obviously not worried about it. what do you mean?
i dont think he's trying to take over the shoe game. :hammerhead:
[QUOTE=gts]your right and lebron knows full well that the nikes lebron, tiger, kobe, or whoever wears are built in beaverton oregon by hand... these guys don't wear the shoes we buy...[/QUOTE]
I am guessing that Lebron said it with a smile...joking around
[QUOTE=-primetime-]I am guessing that Lebron said it with a smile...joking around[/QUOTE]
you are wrong because you think the quality of lebron's shoe is exponentially higher than that of the marbury's. simply not true
[QUOTE=KINGofTHEcourt]Do you know anything about Starbury's? [B][SIZE="3"]Marbury owns Starbury you clown,[/SIZE][/B] did you not make the connection, or do you not have a functioning brain. Stephon has had no knee problems this seaspn, so that leads me to think that this website you posted is full of ****. FInd me a few more articles saying the Starbury's are low quality, and then maybe i'll consider it.[/QUOTE]
ok this is not true...starbury owns him...just took me a second to find it
[url]http://www.forbes.com/business/2006/08/17/marbury-basketball-shoes-cx_ab_0817marbury.html[/url]
"This is the highest-performance shoe that you can make for any amount. The technology is state of the art and was designed for the way that Stephon plays," said Steve & Barry's co-founder and co-CEO [B][SIZE="3"]Barry Prevor[/SIZE][/B].
ok clown?
I'd try a pair of strabury;s, i like the white ones...my problem is the closest store that carries them is 45 miles away and with the price of gas the good deal becomes not so great as the 15 dollar shoes end up costing 40 bucks ...lol
[QUOTE=mid80sjordan]you are wrong because you think the quality of lebron's shoe is exponentially higher than that of the marbury's. simply not true[/QUOTE]
I don't know about " exponentially" higher...but higher none the less
and how do you know that starburys are such high quality?
[QUOTE=-primetime-]ok this is not true...starbury owns him...just took me a second to find it
[url]http://www.forbes.com/business/2006/08/17/marbury-basketball-shoes-cx_ab_0817marbury.html[/url]
"This is the highest-performance shoe that you can make for any amount. The technology is state of the art and was designed for the way that Stephon plays," said Steve & Barry's co-founder and co-CEO [B][SIZE="3"]Barry Prevor[/SIZE][/B].
ok clown?[/QUOTE]
[B][QUOTE]Marbury teamed up with discount retailer Steve & Barry's University Sportswear, which will exclusively sell the line.[/QUOTE][/B] they are co-owners with marbury...marbury owns the shoe company and steve and barry's has the exclusive on sales...
[QUOTE=gts][B][/B] they are co-owners with marbury...ok clown?[/QUOTE]
teamed up kinda like Lebron teamed up with Nike...
ok clown?
[QUOTE=-primetime-]teamed up kinda like Lebron teamed up with Nike...
ok clown?[/QUOTE] what is so hard for you to understand, lebron is paid PAID by nike to put his name on the shoe and endorse it... Marbury is PART Owner of this enterprise... are you stupid?
[QUOTE=gts]what is so hard for you to understand, lebron is paid PAID by nike to put his name on the shoe and endorse it... Marbury is PART Owner of this enterprise... are you stupid?[/QUOTE]
no but you are...
[I]Marbury is the first celebrity [B][SIZE="3"]to sign [/SIZE][/B]with Steve & Barry's, a move that will put the retailer on the map. Already billed "the fastest growing retailer you never heard of" by Forbes, Steve & Barry's is sure to win over new fans. And other celebrities.[/I]
he may have some kind of royalty type of payment with that shoe but he owns nothing...
[QUOTE=-primetime-]I don't know about " exponentially" higher...but higher none the less
and how do you know that starburys are such high quality?[/QUOTE]
how do you not? because you look at the price tags
[QUOTE=-primetime-]no but you are...
[I]Marbury is the first celebrity [B][SIZE="3"]to sign [/SIZE][/B]with Steve & Barry's, a move that will put the retailer on the map. Already billed "the fastest growing retailer you never heard of" by Forbes, Steve & Barry's is sure to win over new fans. And other celebrities.[/I]
he may have some kind of royalty type of payment with that shoe but he owns nothing...[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]Starbury, Stephon Marbury
[QUOTE=mid80sjordan]how do you not? because you look at the price tags[/QUOTE]
and reviews...
yeah the fact that they cost $15 is a small clue that they might be lower quality...sorry
and yes I know Nikes cost .0000001 cent to make...
[QUOTE=gts]god your such a moron...[/QUOTE]
president = CEO
when did that happen?
[QUOTE=-primetime-]president = CEO
when did that happen?[/QUOTE] lol since the beginning he has always been the CEO of the company it's his, Steve and Barry's (sound like an ice cream shop) are the exclusive distributor for the company... that's how they can keep the cost down is by only selling thier shoes to one outlet...
[QUOTE=gts]lol since the beginning he has always been the CEO of the company it's his, Steve and Barry's (sound like an ice cream shop) are the exclusive distributor for the company... that's how they can keep the cost down is by only selling thier shoes to one outlet...[/QUOTE]
that article made it pretty clear that Marbury signed with Steve and Barry...not teamed up or used...
[QUOTE=-primetime-][COLOR="Red"]that is like me asking you to prove that ferrari makes a faster car than mazda[/COLOR]...can you prove it?....all the reviews say that ferrari's are faster....am I dumb for assumiong they are correct?
I never said Nike's are worth the $150 price tag....I know that they are over-priced....but I am going to assume from the price and reviews that they are better quality than the Starburys...I guess I am a fool for that?
what's funny is that you know deep down that the Nike's are better quailty...you just can't bring yourself to say it...if you had to bet your life on which shoe gives you more support, has more padding, and lasts longer you would pick the Lebron's...don't tell me otherwise[/QUOTE]
Not really considering people race cars at tracks so everyone can actually see which car is faster.
[QUOTE=-primetime-]that article made it pretty clear that Marbury signed with Steve and Barry...not teamed up or used...[/QUOTE] yes his company signed a contract with them to be the exclusive retailler of his line of shoes and clothing... they may even be share holders in the company (probably are) but it was his baby from the start
[QUOTE=-primetime-]that article made it pretty clear that Marbury signed with Steve and Barry...[COLOR="Red"]not teamed up [/COLOR]or used...[/QUOTE]
"Marbury [COLOR="Red"]teamed up [/COLOR]with discount retailer Steve & Barry's University Sportswear, which will exclusively sell the line. The [COLOR="Red"]partnership [/COLOR]is a dream team come true for both parties."
What?
[QUOTE=gts]yes his company signed a contract with them to be the exclusive retailler of his line of shoes and clothing... they may even be share holders in the company (probably are) [B]but it was his baby from the start[/B][/QUOTE]
that may be true...I don't know...but it sounds to me like it isn't his baby anymore.
neither one of us owns a copy of the contract though...
[QUOTE=Xsatyr]"Marbury [COLOR="Red"]teamed up [/COLOR]with discount retailer Steve & Barry's University Sportswear, which will exclusively sell the line. The [COLOR="Red"]partnership [/COLOR]is a dream team come true for both parties."
What?[/QUOTE]
lol...ok it did use the term "teamed up"...but they mean like "jordan teamed up with Nike"...
they go on to say that Steve and Barry signed him....not the other way around...
you guys make it seam as though Marbury highered them to distribute his shoes...
[QUOTE=Xsatyr]Not really considering people race cars at tracks so everyone can actually see which car is faster.[/QUOTE]
and once people start playing with those shoes everyday it will be the same
Wow, this thread is outta control.
LeBron values money more than trying to help people, and Starbury vice versa. Choose whether or not you are selfish and ignorant, and that's the side you're on.
:cheers:
Starbury = my new #4 favorite player, maybe #1 favorite off court.
[QUOTE=-primetime-]and once people start playing with those shoes everyday it will be the same[/QUOTE]
You do know people play with those shoes already right?
[QUOTE=tpcslj47]Wow, this thread is outta control.
LeBron values money more than trying to help people, and Starbury vice versa. Choose whether or not you are selfish and ignorant, and that's the side you're on.
:cheers:
Starbury = my new #4 favorite player, [COLOR="Red"]maybe #1 favorite off court[/COLOR].[/QUOTE]
My #1 favorite player off the court has to be Deke.
the whole piont of the ownership thing was in what Marbury said...but the truth is that just like Lebron he is under contract with that shoe and is forced to wear them for this season and the next...he is being owned by Steve and Barry.....partners or not