The 2017 off-season...Hayward, Hill, Ingles...?

[QUOTE=El Kabong]Have to look at the minutes available too. Burks gonna get enough time behind Hood, JJ and Ingles to put up 15 a game?

Favors I could understand keeping because the big man depth is thin and I doubt Lyles is ready for starting minutes, but i'd be happy with them moving him on and finding someone in free agency who fits better with Gobert on the floor.[/QUOTE]

First off I think they need to let Ingles and Johnson go. They need to build a team that can compete with GS. They sucked against GS and I just can't see paying them the big money at their age. They had great years. Love the Joe's but it is a business. With the Jazz track record I would certainly expect them to keep them though especially since Hayward and Ingles are apparently close and he appears to have a great relationship with the coach as well. They have a long history of keeping guys beyond their usefulness.

You got to try to showcase Burks and Favors if they are up for it. Better than paying teams to take them off your hands.

I think if if Favors returns to form that he will be dealt unless he starts hitting the 3 which I doubt. The best line-up will be Rudy with 4 guys that can spread the floor. I can see Bolomboy in the rotation ahead of Lyles right now

[url]http://purpleandblues.com/2017/05/17/utah-jazz-2016-17-team-awards/2/[/url]

[QUOTE]MVP

[QUOTE]Tom Westerholm: Al Horford says the Celtics

[QUOTE]Chris Forsberg: Brad Stevens on developing young talent while winning:

[url]http://purpleandblues.com/2017/05/17/utah-jazz-2016-17-player-review-of-raul-neto/[/url]

[QUOTE]Coach Ty Corbin believed Burke was the future at point guard for the Jazz.[/QUOTE]

Don't try to lay that on Ty. That's on your can't do no wrong front office as are all their lottery picks since then and it's looking pretty grim with Lyles and Exum left to show for the tanking

[QUOTE]an undersized rookie[/QUOTE]

He's an inch shorter than Mack and Hill. Wouldn't call him undersized exactly

[QUOTE]But will that be enough to earn him a roster spot on next year

[url]http://purpleandblues.com/2017/05/17/theres-a-silver-lining-to-the-boston-celtics-winning-lottery-for-the-utah-jazz/[/url]

[QUOTE]David J. Smith @davidjsmith1232
Jazz fans would be absolutely fine with this course of action for the Celtics. [url]https://twitter.com/MarkJonesESPN/status/864924860203585538[/url]

[url]http://nesn.com/2017/05/nba-insider-believes-celtics-targeting-gordon-hayward-as-no-1-option-this-summer/[/url]

[QUOTE]The C

[QUOTE]Now, Burke will enter restricted free agency and likely won

[url]http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865680213/All-NBA-selection-could-influence-Gordon-Haywards-decision.html[/url]

[QUOTE] the Jazz will have the luxury of offering him a fifth year on a new deal if he opts out. Other teams will only be able to give him four years.[/QUOTE]

He's going to want an opt out regardless. I'm guessing he opts out and signs a 2 year deal with a player option for the 2nd. Than he will be eliglble for the 35% I believe. That's assuming he signs with the Jazz of course which might not be in his best interests if winning is most important like he says. What's the difference between 132 million and 180 million really?

[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You]First off I think they need to let Ingles and Johnson go. They need to build a team that can compete with GS. They sucked against GS and I just can't see paying them the big money at their age. They had great years. Love the Joe's but it is a business. With the Jazz track record I would certainly expect them to keep them though especially since Hayward and Ingles are apparently close and he appears to have a great relationship with the coach as well. They have a long history of keeping guys beyond their usefulness.

You got to try to showcase Burks and Favors if they are up for it. Better than paying teams to take them off your hands.

I think if if Favors returns to form that he will be dealt unless he starts hitting the 3 which I doubt. The best line-up will be Rudy with 4 guys that can spread the floor. I can see Bolomboy in the rotation ahead of Lyles right now[/QUOTE]
JJ probably has decent value at the moment thanks to his performances in the playoffs and the fact he's only gonna cost a team $10 million or so. I could certainly see an also contender like LA Clippers thinking about adding him if they decide to go around again, especially since they're losing Paul Pierce and he'd mean they might not need to play guys like Felton, Rivers or Mbah a Moute as much.

[QUOTE=El Kabong]JJ probably has decent value at the moment thanks to his performances in the playoffs and the fact he's only gonna cost a team $10 million or so. I could certainly see an also contender like LA Clippers thinking about adding him if they decide to go around again, especially since they're losing Paul Pierce and he'd mean they might not need to play guys like Felton, Rivers or Mbah a Moute as much.[/QUOTE]

He's got to have value after what he did to the Clipps for sure and they wanted him in the off-season as well. If they'd had 22 million over 2 years I imagine he would have been there too! :lol

[url]http://purpleandblues.com/2017/05/18/utah-jazz-player-review-derrick-favors/[/url]

[QUOTE]The starting lineup for the Utah Jazz entering the 2016-17 season seemed to be set in stone.[/QUOTE]

Not to me. Hood seemed to make the most sense as a 6th man and still does despite his feelings on the matter

[QUOTE]Early in the season he suffered a knee injury that he never came back from. Favors even admitted that he never really felt 100 percent, even when he came back from his injury.[/QUOTE]

Was hurt in the summer!

[QUOTE]Nevertheless, despite the struggles, the Jazz are going to stand by Favors and support him, hoping for a redemption next season.[/QUOTE]

Probably until they can raise his trade value anyway

Ian Begley: One team that

[url]http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/page/nbarank-19393608/every-team-best-worst-lottery-picks[/url]

[QUOTE]Utah Jazz

Best: Deron Williams, No. 3, 2005 (KP)/Gordon Hayward, No. 9, 2010 (CF)[/QUOTE]

Could argue Deron was one of the worst with Paul available

[QUOTE]Worst: Dante Exum, No. 5, 2014 (KP)/Trey Burke, No. 9, 2013 (CF)[/QUOTE]

Kanter was picked higher

[QUOTE]While they haven't made many lottery picks (nine in 33 years), the Jazz's track record is surprisingly checkered after All-Stars Hayward and Williams[/QUOTE]

especially considering all the praise Lindsey gets and he picked neither

[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You][url]http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/page/nbarank-19393608/every-team-best-worst-lottery-picks[/url]

Could argue Deron was one of the worst with Paul available

Kanter was picked higher than Exum and Burke. None worked out for the Jazz either.

Lindsey is a mastermind?

[QUOTE]Adrian Wojnarowski: With Paul George, Gordon Hayward left off All-NBA teams, Pacers and Jazz lose chance to re-sign them to 5-year, $207M super-max contracts.

Way to go Rudy. Hayward can be the all star. You're all NBA even if you were robbed of 1st ream. :bowdown:

[QUOTE]The deadline for Tacko Fall to make his NBA decision is fast approaching and the UCF center still isn

[url]https://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba-teams-paul-george-gordon-hayward-cant-happy-183715791.html[/url]

[QUOTE]He may decide to spend his prime on a team rife with cap space and a closer view of the championship

[url]http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865680226/Ranking-the-best-NBA-players-drafted-at-No-30.html[/url]

I sure hope they get someone better than Eisley

[url]http://www.sltrib.com/sports/5306396-155/utah-jazz-rudy-gobert-named-to[/url]

[QUOTE]The 24-year-old is reportedly set to earn a bonus in his contract for making All-NBA. [/QUOTE]

They can give him a bonus for a contract that starts next season?

[url]http://www.slcdunk.com/2017/5/18/15659434/all-nba-team-2017-utah-jazz-rudy-gobert-gordon-hayward[/url]

[QUOTE]And although many have argued that the Celtics are nearing title contention, that they

[url]http://purpleandblues.com/2017/05/18/2017-utah-jazz-summer-league-schedule-officially-set/[/url]

[QUOTE]There

[url]https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/2017/05/18/gm-dennis-lindsey-focused-on-jazz-retaining-their-own/101853578/[/url]

[QUOTE]Dennis Lindsey knows significant hurdles remain before the team becomes a true contender.

His first priority is making sure the Jazz are able to retain key players.

"Player retention would be the next step," Lindsey said Thursday. "Player development. A strategic add that can complement the group where there's just a really good fit. Whether that fit is mentality, experience or skill-set."[/QUOTE]

The big thing is to know when it's time to say good bye to players. Always been a problem with the Jazz. See how Lindsey does. After what we saw against GS I can't see paying the older guys that were healthy big money. Young guys or guys that are injured is different.

[QUOTE]The Jazz rose to this moment with a patient rebuild that included allowing a young core to develop and not adding outside pieces too soon that would stunt that growth. [/QUOTE]

big mistake as we saw this year. The vets helped the young guys. Imagine that!

[QUOTE]internal growth was the biggest difference and Lindsey is banking on more of the same.[/QUOTE]

Yeah but without Hill we saw what happened against GS. Without Johnson and Ingles they don't beat the Clippers.

[QUOTE]Lindsey's not sure if he's ever seen a better offseason improvement than Hayward made last year, and that includes leaps made in the past by the likes of Hakeem Olajuwon, Tim Duncan and Clyde Drexler.[/QUOTE]

highly debatable if he made a bigger leap than Gobert. I'd say no

[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You]Way to go Rudy. Hayward can be the all star. You're all NBA even if you were robbed of 1st ream. :bowdown:[/QUOTE]
Rudy definitely got robbed of 1st team. I argue that with my friends down here that while Davis is better (debatable), Gobert had a better year and a greater impact in his team/the league. Hayward though I could see not getting an NBA team

[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You][url]https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/2017/05/18/gm-dennis-lindsey-focused-on-jazz-retaining-their-own/101853578/[/url]



The big thing is to know when it's time to say good bye to players. Always been a problem with the Jazz. See how Lindsey does. After what we saw against GS I can't see paying the older guys that were healthy big money. Young guys or guys that are injured is different.



big mistake as we saw this year. The vets helped the young guys. Imagine that!



Yeah but without Hill we saw what happened against GS. Without Johnson and Ingles they don't beat the Clippers.



highly debatable if he made a bigger leap than Gobert. I'd say no[/QUOTE]
It's going to be tough to retain everyone (obviously). I'd say Hill has to be the priority as far as non-star players go, and then Ingles. If the Jazz can dump Diaw and Burks that would certainly help as that's ~$17 million the Jazz will have extra to spend. Problem is the Jazz will have to rely on Bolomboy and Lyles more which is a lot of uncertainty.

As for who made the bigger leap, I'd say it's close, but yeah Gobert. Hayward went from fringe All-Star to All-Star whereas Gobert went from decent center to All-Star snub and DPOY type player

[QUOTE=WayOfWad3]It's going to be tough to retain everyone (obviously). I'd say Hill has to be the priority as far as non-star players go, and then Ingles. If the Jazz can dump Diaw and Burks that would certainly help as that's ~$17 million the Jazz will have extra to spend. Problem is the Jazz will have to rely on Bolomboy and Lyles more which is a lot of uncertainty.

As for who made the bigger leap, I'd say it's close, but yeah Gobert. Hayward went from fringe All-Star to All-Star whereas Gobert went from decent center to All-Star snub and DPOY type player[/QUOTE]

Got to roll the dice on Hill. He was too good in November. That Hill might have made the GS series a bit more interesting. They would have had 3 guys to go against them anyway instead of the 2 that they did. I think you have to let Ingles go unless it's to keep Hayward and/or he comes cheap somehow as a restricted FA. He didn't show up in Oakland despite being their 2nd best player against the Warriors this year and having a great year overall. You have to build a team to beat them. If he was young I could maybe see it but he's not. Joe Johnson has to go for the same reason despite the Clippers series.

Diaw actually did ok against the Warriors but I wouldn't pick up his deal. Would consider signing him to a cheaper deal to be at the end of the bench. You will have to give the other team picks to take Burks right now. I say you go into the season with him and show he can play again first.

I think Bolomboy might be able to give them some rotation minutes. He looked good the couple times he played and was great in the D-league something neither Lyles or Exum have proven. He needs to get stronger. Lyles has the talent but Kobe being his idol might be a problem it seems.

Rudy was a lot more than a decent center. He got votes for DPOTY last year. He's been the heart and soul of the team for more than 2 years now. The big difference this year was the catching and finishing and we may have seen that last year if Favors hadn't been dominating people down there.

They were one of the worst teams in the league before he emerged despite the continual talk of Hayward and Favors being all-star type players. Last year without Gobert they sucked again. The game he missed this year they sucked. They have played good without Hayward. The playoffs is the first time they showed they could compete without Gobert and they lost 2 of 3 once the Clippers adjusted and once again won without Hayward. Hayward's play in the playoffs is the only reason I think they should pay him whatever he wants. Would have been hard to swallow before that

[QUOTE=WayOfWad3]Rudy definitely got robbed of 1st team. I argue that with my friends down here that while Davis is better (debatable), Gobert had a better year and a greater impact in his team/the league. Hayward though I could see not getting an NBA team[/QUOTE]

The one game against the Jazz when Davis wouldn't go near Gobert was enough for me. If you're supposed to be one of the top players in the league you're not afraid of anyone. Rudy certainly isn't even when the guy has an advantage strength wise. Davis is soft. Him and Cousins can put up all the gaudy numbers they want. Where's the wins?

[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You]The one game against the Jazz when Davis wouldn't go near Gobert was enough for me. If you're supposed to be one of the top players in the league you're not afraid of anyone. Rudy certainly isn't even when the guy has an advantage strength wise. Davis is soft. Him and Cousins can put up all the gaudy numbers they want. Where's the wins?[/QUOTE]
Wins and the fact that the defense of both is nothing compared to Gobert. Defense is half the game, and Gobert happens to be the premiere player at that end of the floor, and he is the third most efficient offensive player in the league to boot. He should definitely cement himself as better in the minds of most next season when he improves even more so than he already has.

[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You]Got to roll the dice on Hill. He was too good in November. That Hill might have made the GS series a bit more interesting.

Diaw actually did ok against the Warriors but I wouldn't pick up his deal. Would consider signing him to a cheaper deal to be at the end of the bench. You will have to give the other team picks to take Burks right now. I say you go into the season with him and show he can play again first.

I think Bolomboy might be able to give them some rotation minutes. He looked good the couple times he played and was great in the D-league something neither Lyles or Exum have proven.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I'd do my best to keep Hill too. No other pg on the roster will do, and Exum might be better off as a 2-guard. While he was injured a lot this season, they were almost all freak injuries like getting nailed in the head every other week, never a recurring problem with any particular part outside of his toe.

I don't know if Diaw's option is team or player, gotts check that out. I'd let him go regardless though seeing as Bolomboy and Lyles both need minutes, and I really think the Jazz should try and go back to the Favors/Gobert lineup even though David Locke doesn't think it's viable anymore.

As for Burks, while it would be nice to see him play, I think if the opportunity presents itself to unload him in order to keep Ingles/Hill, I think they should go for it. Will cost more than just unloading Alec though.

Celtics seem pretty confident on getting Hayward. Will make the off-season an interesting one if he does leave.

[QUOTE=WayOfWad3]Wins and the fact that the defense of both is nothing compared to Gobert. Defense is half the game, and Gobert happens to be the premiere player at that end of the floor, and he is the third most efficient offensive player in the league to boot. He should definitely cement himself as better in the minds of most next season when he improves even more so than he already has.[/QUOTE]

Not playing for France this year for the first time since the Jazz got him. Look what just a short time off last year while France was qualifying for the olympics did for him! We'll see the face up and post game next year. :bowdown:

[QUOTE=WayOfWad3]Yeah I'd do my best to keep Hill too. No other pg on the roster will do, and Exum might be better off as a 2-guard. While he was injured a lot this season, they were almost all freak injuries like getting nailed in the head every other week, never a recurring problem with any particular part outside of his toe.

I don't know if Diaw's option is team or player, gotts check that out. I'd let him go regardless though seeing as Bolomboy and Lyles both need minutes, and I really think the Jazz should try and go back to the Favors/Gobert lineup even though David Locke doesn't think it's viable anymore.

As for Burks, while it would be nice to see him play, I think if the opportunity presents itself to unload him in order to keep Ingles/Hill, I think they should go for it. Will cost more than just unloading Alec though.[/QUOTE]

Diaw has a team option. They have until Jul 15th to decide. They should know about Hayward and Hill by then maybe Ingles. But I think you have to let him go regardless. Maybe sign him to a cheaper deal for an end of the bench role. He wasn't consistent enough to be in the rotation. They can use him as a trade piece before Jul 15 too!

I think you start the season with Favors and Gobert. Hopefully Favors shows he can play again because he could still have a ton of value with him being eligible for an extension and not just an expiring deal. If Hayward leaves they might have to stick with Favors and even sign him to an extension but Locke is probably right. We never got to see Favors at 100% all year so it's hard to say for sure though. Maybe the Warriors would have had a hard time matching up with a healthy Jazz team playing big? We don't know for sure. Diaw definitely was better than Johnson against them. Diaw plays more of a stretch four but can also bang down low.

They don't have to unload anyone to sign their guys. They can go into the season over the tax line. Just need to be under the tax line at the end of the year. Can trade guys to Philly before the break for picks if it comes down to it. Johnson, Diaw and Ingles are the guys I'm looking at to keep the payroll down(that's probably 30 million or so depending on what Ingles gets) and later on you can look at Favors, Burks and maybe others. I'd see if Burks can come back this summer. He didn't look bad to me this year and he says he wasn't close to 100%. Needs to get his leg stronger this summer. See what happens.

[QUOTE=El Kabong]Celtics seem pretty confident on getting Hayward. Will make the off-season an interesting one if he does leave.[/QUOTE]

He says winning is most important not money. If he means that it's Boston to me. They have better young talent with more on the way and more depth on their roster. They also might get Butler too! But the biggest thing to me is that they will spend whatever it takes to win titles.

It's possible that the new Legacy Trust will allow the Jazz to go into the tax since the profits of the team are supposed to go back into the team but we'll have to see how that goes. i'm not counting on things changing in Utah. The things in Utah's favor would be Gobert which is the big thing Boston is missing right now and maybe Snyder who has helped make Hayward a better player. Also Johnnie Bryant is the guy he works out with. I'd rather live here than Boston especially in the winter. Hayward is in San Diego now so I'm not sure his family would like a Boston winter.

Before the playoffs I wasn't sure I wanted him to get 30% of the max but we saw a Hayward we had never seen and you have to pay him whatever he wants and maybe even sign Ingles if he wants. Hopefully if he does stay in Utah he will leave some money on the table so they can put a team around him and Rudy and hopefully Hill.

[QUOTE]Gordon Hayward will be a free agent this summer, and buzz regarding a reunion with Brad Stevens is starting to ramp up. According to The Vertical

[url]http://www.sltrib.com/sports/5307558-155/utah-jazz-for-gm-dennis-lindsey[/url]

[QUOTE]Beyond drafting Trey Burke, Utah general manager Dennis Lindsey has made very few missteps during the last five years of what has been a meticulous rebuild. He has gathered assets, his staff has developed players, he has lured some key free agents and pulled off some shrewd trades.[/QUOTE]

Come on! He let their best player go to start the rebuild not to mention Demarre. Millsap it has been reported that they have wanted him back since. He drafted Exum and Lyles. He left 14 million and an exception on the table this year. They got lucky with Gobert. If not for that I could see them being in the same place as Orlando and he and Snyder might be looking for work and Hayward would have been traded already and the tanking would have continued. This summer he needs to show what he can do now that the money isn't unlimited anymore. Why can't we just let people prove themselves instead of claiming greatness all the time?

[QUOTE]Lindsey knows the roster he has built is capable of more. Should Hayward stay and the team remains reasonably healthy, a 55- or 60-win season could be in the cards, along with a push beyond the second round of the postseason.[/QUOTE]

How will you put a team around the big 2 now though? We saw against GS they are not really deep and they need a lot of help and it will likely have to be done cheaply

[QUOTE]He has $13 million in cap space he has to use by July 1.[/QUOTE]

He doesn't have to but it might keep me quiet anyway! If he can do something big with that at the draft it might be big for Hayward

[QUOTE]he has an ownership group in the Miller family that has given him the financial freedom to make the moves needed to keep things rolling.[/QUOTE]

Rolling as long as they don't pay tax?

[QUOTE]"We feel the quality of this team was that of a three seed. [/QUOTE]

I think they were probably a top 3 or 4 team in the league but could have been better. 13 million and an exception! Can they get better is the question? Have they peaked before they got rolling?

[QUOTE]we wanted health to supersede seeding."[/QUOTE]

Yet health killed them anyway!

[QUOTE]The Jazz have others who are entering free agency. Point guard George Hill is coming off a solid statistical season that was cut short by a nagging toe injury. Lindsey wants him back, but also knows the market may be robust for a veteran of his caliber.

"George is obviously a good fit," Lindsey said. "We want to let him rest and recover, and then we want to have open and honest conversations. George is a terrific player and a terrific guy. He's one of my pride and joys. If he gets a crazy offer somewhere else, we won't have one poor thought about him. There's also a very good chance we're each other's best option come July."[/QUOTE]

So they aren't giving George the max or the 5 years they could give him! An open and honest conversation means we want you but not that much?
Lindsey has always been known as a patient and calculating general manager. The Jazz are at a crossroad this summer. Will they emerge as an even stronger contender? Or, like ongoing construction at Vivint Smart Home Arena and the Zions Banks Basketball Center, will Lindsey have to build again?

Can't really be patient anymore. You're always going to be building

[url]http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865680311/Jazz-GM-Lindsey-talks-about-priority-of-keeping-Hayward-Hill.html[/url]

[QUOTE]

[url]http://saltcityhoops.com/hayward-watch-threats-in-the-eastern-conference/[/url]

[QUOTE]With the basketballs back on the rack and the locker stalls cleaned out, the next six and a half weeks in Utah Jazz territory will primary be about three things:

Gordon. Daniel. Hayward.[/QUOTE]

Hill is big too as we saw in the GS series. Two guys isn't enough to get it done

[QUOTE]How much do Jazz fans need to worry? Here’s a look at the threat level behind all 29 of Utah’s competitors, starting today with the Eastern Conference.[/QUOTE]

Every team! He says it's about winning and really he could demand a sign and trade for any of them if he wanted. Going to this for Hill as well? That might be more interesting

[QUOTE]It really all depends on Paul Millsap. If he walks, the Hawks will have the ability to create a max slot, but only if they make restricted free agent Tim Hardaway Jr. wait for his payday. If Millsap opts in, or if he opts out but the Hawks keep his rights, Atlanta will probably operate as an exceptions team.[/QUOTE]

Millsap is the one guy that may be an even better fit than Hill. Would love to get him back and it seems possible actually

[QUOTE]they can easily get to Hayward’s $30.3M number by offloading a role player or two.[/QUOTE]

They could do a sign and trade and the Jazz may even get something useful in return. Celts are loaded with young talent

[QUOTE]So the case could be laid out to Hayward that, when you back out all the games missed by key players, the Jazz are already ahead of the Celtics.[/QUOTE]

They are but may have peaked while the Celts aren't close and will keep spending until they are. That's the big difference that I see

[QUOTE]Why Jazz fans should be afraid: Hayward already signed a contract with Charlotte once: the 2014 max offer sheet that Utah matched. That at least adds some intrigue in that we know the Hornets once like Gordon and he liked them back.[/QUOTE]

That was about money not winning. He knew the Jazz would match

[QUOTE]And even if Hayward said yes, it’s a non-starter unless the Jazz are interested in taking salary back from the Hornets — why would they aid and abet Charlotte in stealing their own franchise star away from them?[/QUOTE]

Because Hayward says that's who he wants to play for and you possibe get something in return even if it's not much.

[QUOTE]The Cavs just don’t have a means of adding Hayward.[/QUOTE]

Love for Hayward I imagine. I'd take Love if Hayward wants to be there

[QUOTE]People forget that these dudes are human, and the opportunity for Hayward, a family man, to raise his two daughters close to his family has to be a little appealing, right?[/QUOTE]

But it's Indiana. He's living in San Diego at the moment for good reason!

[QUOTE]However, it could be argued that their three best players are all naturally wings: Giannis Antetokounmpo, Khris Middleton and Jabari Parker2. Hard to imagine where Hayward fits there, unless the Bucks just decide that with enough length and skill, they can just be a glorious, positionless, chaotic mass of arms.[/QUOTE]

Play all 4 with Maker. Could be something else actually! Parker is co ming off another knee injury too

[url]http://purpleandblues.com/2017/05/18/prospects-watch-utah-jazz-nba-draft/[/url]

[QUOTE]he

[url]http://purpleandblues.com/2017/05/18/utah-jazz-rumors-celtics-really-focused-acquiring-gordon-hayward/[/url]

[QUOTE]They also have more potential for internal growth with Rudy Gobert and youngsters Rodney Hood, Dante Exum and Trey Lyles yet to hit their peaks. [/QUOTE]

Have you looked at the Celtics young guys with 2 high lottery picks still to go and more guys stashed away? :rolleyes: