Where is Stephen Curry?

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Dmavs thinks the Warriors are head and shoulders better than their competition but not Kobe's stacked rosters? Talk about best front courts in the league :lol


Dmavs clearly doesn't have a grasp on the current landscape of the NBA. The Rockets last year were a historically great team and pushed GS to the brink

This year they have a 37ppg MVP, a HOF PG with elite decision making and defense, Capela whose better than any GS big man by a long shot (not including Dray) and lethal 3pt shooters throughout. How are the Warriors head and shoulders better? :lol

And not to mention the Sixers, Bucks, and Raps who are almost equally as stacked as the Warriors/Rockets

Guy doesn't know what he's talkign about :oldlol:

[QUOTE=warriorfan]It happens all the time. That’s been the blueprint for the best chance to shut down the warriors for almost 5 years now. Hard double Curry all the time and make the other Warriors beat you.[/QUOTE]
No it isn't and no they don't double him all the time. They usually only do it off screens sometimes. The best strategy is to switch everything like Cavs did before kd and like Houston does now. This is why curry stuggles a bit in playoffs because most teams do this come playoff time.

Curry isn't an amazing iso scorer. Teams would rarely double him if not for the thousands of screens he gets. Kerr knows curry has a hard time beating guys his size off the dribble so they're constantly trying to set screens to get curry switched on a slower big that he can take advantage of. If Draymond sets a screen you only have two options really. Switch and let your slow foward or center gaurd Steph or double and force curry to give it up for a wide open shot from a mediocre shooter. Teams would rather give draymond a wide open shot then let curry put there big on skates. That's why they double Steph sometimes.

[QUOTE=AlternativeAcc.]Dmavs thinks [/QUOTE]


yes, he does...

You don't.

[QUOTE=tpols]yes, he does...

You don't.[/QUOTE]
You're lame.

[QUOTE=AlternativeAcc.]Again... you keep citing stats... but if you actually watch the games and not just look at box scores you'll see the context of how those stats come about

Steph routinely waits until GS has a big lead AND THEN starts accumulating stats and playing with confidence. Hes a known front runner. I can't believe this isnt mainstream by now.


KD has a ton of help, I'm not disputing that. But it's not just steph. Dray and klay are arguably more important to the warriors than steph because of what they do on both ends. Dray is literally the warriors best defender, passer, and decision maker with the ball. Klay is the best at hitting shots when they need them. Curry is best at scoring when the game is out of balance in the 3rd or 4th quarter due to Durant carrying them. I say the word carrying because that's exactly how it goes down. Dray is a terrible scorer and the warriors have no depth... so while KD does have help the warriors are still flawed and rely on his shot making heavily in tightly contested games. This is just a fact. Durant is hitting tough contested jumpers all game every game and gets very little open looks.[/QUOTE]

No, I talked about Curry's shooting and what it does to opposing defenses off the ball. Klay as well.

That really doesn't show up in "stats"...at least not the ones you'll be capable of understanding.

You then essentially called me a moron and told me it is stupid to think Curry makes his teammates better.

Durant absolutely makes tough shots and I never argued he doesn't. However, if you knew anything about NBA history...playing against single coverage just isn't that hard for the all-time great offensive forces...which Durant clearly is.

Like...what were you expecting? That a 21st ranked defense with nobody that can even come close to checking KD...was going to shut him down?

I'm just confused as to what your point is...you want us to have an orgasm with you because Durant is going off against a shit defensive team against largely single coverage?

Really?

[QUOTE=Bronbron23]No it isn't and no they don't double him all the time. They usually only do it off screens sometimes. The best strategy is to switch everything like Cavs did before kd and like Houston does now. This is why curry stuggles a bit in playoffs because most teams do this come playoff time.

[B]Curry isn't an amazing iso scorer. Teams would rarely double him if not for the thousands of screens he gets.[/B] Kerr knows curry has a hard time beating guys his size off the dribble so they're constantly trying to set screens to get curry switched on a slower big that he can take advantage of. If Draymond sets a screen you only have two options really. Switch and let your slow foward or center gaurd Steph or double and force curry to give it up for a wide open shot from a mediocre shooter. Teams would rather give draymond a wide open shot then let curry put there big on skates. That's why they double Steph sometimes.[/QUOTE]

You write the bold as if screens aren't an integral part of basketball and somehow think iso scoring is all that matters.

[QUOTE=AlternativeAcc.]Another box score watcher :roll:

How many of those points came when the warriors didnt have a double digit lead?

Glad a moron like you could come in and make my point. Perfect timing. :applause:[/QUOTE]



So he didn't score 24?


And is he the only one whose points you dont account for because of a double digit lead? I mean the Clips didn't cut it to single digits all second half so does that mean none of the Warrior points counted after that?


Yea, Guess that means I'm a box score watcher.

[QUOTE=AlternativeAcc.]Dmavs thinks the Warriors are head and shoulders better than their competition but not Kobe's stacked rosters? Talk about best front courts in the league :lol


[B]Dmavs clearly doesn't have a grasp on the current landscape of the NBA. The Rockets last year were a historically great team and pushed GS to the brink [/B]

This year they have a 37ppg MVP, a HOF PG with elite decision making and defense, Capela whose better than any GS big man by a long shot (not including Dray) and lethal 3pt shooters throughout. How are the Warriors head and shoulders better? :lol

And not to mention the Sixers, Bucks, and Raps who are almost equally as stacked as the Warriors/Rockets

Guy doesn't know what he's talkign about :oldlol:[/QUOTE]

I've been arguing that the Rockets were actually as good or better than a number of teams that have won the title and clearly a historically good team since last year.

What the **** are you talking about?

You are making my points for me. If KD is as good as you claim...then, yes, the Warriors are clearly better. That is where we differ...I don't think Durant is as good as you do.

All-time great for sure, but not likely as high as where you would put him.

I'm just not sure what league you are watching if you can't admit that once Durant joined the Warriors...it was basically game-over.

You act like we should be surprised KD is destroying teams and the Warriors are winning titles. Like, again, what did you expect when one of the 25 best players of all time joins a 73 win team at his peak...while destroying the franchise (Thunder) that had the best chance to beat them in the process.

Come on now...

So far in the playoffs, Steph is at 25/7/5 on 48/51/96 shooting splits.

Has he been as dominant as we are accustomed to? No.

But it's crazy that anyone could think he's been bad. [url]https://t.co/MDTak7CVad[/url]


"Where is Stephen Curry"


:facepalm :facepalm

[QUOTE=DMAVS41]You write the bold as if screens aren't an integral part of basketball and somehow think iso scoring is all that matters.[/QUOTE]
No not all. It's part of the game and curry and the warriors take advantage better than anyone, as they should. Was just pointing out that screens are an integral part of Curry's effectiveness unlike his teammate kd who can destroy teams with or without them. When teams double kd they double him because of him. When teams double curry it's a reaction to the warriors offensive strategy of setting screens to get curry switched on to a miss match.

[QUOTE=Bronbron23]No not all. It's part of the game and curry and the warriors take advantage better than anyone, as they should. Was just pointing out that screens are an integral part of Curry's effectiveness unlike his teammate kd who can destroy teams with or without them. When teams double kd they double him because of him. When teams double curry it's a reaction to the warriors offensive strategy of setting screens to get curry switched on to a miss match.[/QUOTE]

Yes, KD is a better iso scorer.

Disagree about why teams pay so much attention to Curry...it is because he's the GOAT shooter and a great passer as well.

Allowing him to touch the ball in plus EV situations is more dangerous than it is for KD...at least that is what most teams have concluded since KD joined the Warriors.

I just don't see the point because you are just describing a difference. I'm not even sure which specific aspect is more valuable. Is KD's better iso scoring or Curry's deep ball threat off the ball / screens more valuable.

I don't know. That specific aspect I'd lean more towards Curry when championship level help is there, but on an average team...iso scoring is likely more beneficial.

I don't think it is a system thing though...you put Curry in any offensive system and he's going to generate great shots for the team consistently.

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Going back five years form 2015 to 2019 Curry is performing at his lowest in playoffs

5 year low ppg
5 year low apg
5 year high personal fouls per game
5 year high Defense rating

Its only been a round but just saying ...

[QUOTE=And1AllDay]Going back five years form 2015 to 2019 Curry is performing at his lowest in playoffs

5 year low ppg
5 year low apg
5 year high personal fouls per game
5 year high Defense rating

Its only been a round but just saying ...[/QUOTE]

Yea, it has been 6 games....not big enough sample, but at least include more of the picture;

Career high in ortg
Career high in TS%
Career high in efg%
Career high in 3pt %
2nd highest WS/48
Career high in rebounds

I mean...some of you make me laugh a lot.

[QUOTE=DMAVS41]Yea, it has been 6 games....not big enough sample, but at least include more of the picture;

Career high in ortg
Career high in TS%
Career high in efg%
Career high in 3pt %
2nd highest WS/48
Career high in rebounds

I mean...some of you make me laugh a lot.[/QUOTE]


That's not how they operate.

[QUOTE=DMAVS41]Yea, it has been 6 games....not big enough sample, but at least include more of the picture;

Career high in ortg
Career high in TS%
Career high in efg%
Career high in 3pt %
2nd highest WS/48
Career high in rebounds

I mean...some of you make me laugh a lot.[/QUOTE]

Umm...KD is why

Stephen Curry is always needing more help:

All he needs is another:

[QUOTE=SpaceJam2]Umm...KD is why

Stephen Curry is always needing more help:

All he needs is another:

[QUOTE=SpaceJam2]Umm...KD is why

Stephen Curry is always needing more help:

All he needs is another:

[QUOTE=DMAVS41]Yes, KD is a better iso scorer.

Disagree about why teams pay so much attention to Curry...it is because he's the GOAT shooter and a great passer as well.

Allowing him to touch the ball in plus EV situations is more dangerous than it is for KD...at least that is what most teams have concluded since KD joined the Warriors.

I just don't see the point because you are just describing a difference. I'm not even sure which specific aspect is more valuable. Is KD's better iso scoring or Curry's deep ball threat off the ball / screens more valuable.

I don't know. That specific aspect I'd lean more towards Curry when championship level help is there, but on an average team...iso scoring is likely more beneficial.

I don't think it is a system thing though...you put Curry in any offensive system and he's going to generate great shots for the team consistently.[/QUOTE]
I disagree with the last part. I don't curry would be effective on a team that doesn't incorporate alot of screens. I don't think he'd be as effective in hardens place in Dantoni's system. His numbers would be better because he'd have the ball alot more but he can't break guys down like harden can.

[QUOTE=Bronbron23]I disagree with the last part. I don't curry would be effective on a team that doesn't incorporate alot of screens. I don't think he'd be as effective in hardens place in Dantoni's system. His numbers would be better because he'd have the ball alot more but he can't break guys down like harden can.[/QUOTE]

Ok.

There seems to be confusion.

I am not arguing that Curry could replace any player on a team and do as good or better in that role. Of course Curry couldn't replace Harden and do as well in that system.

However, you aren't understanding why Dantoni does that system...it is because of Harden. He adapted it to fit Harden.

You act like that is how they played in Phoenix with Nash. They didn't obviously...not at all.

If Curry was on the Rockets in place of Harden they would play much more like the Suns did, but Curry would play off ball more than Nash in part because of skillset and in part because of Paul.

Also, almost every team sets a ton of screens. Again, I'm not sure what league you guys are watching. You act as if "setting screens" is some cheat or that it is specific to the Warriors...and that just isn't the case at all. And, of course, the reason the Warriors set so many "off screens" is because of the skillsets of Curry and Klay. It isn't like a system is just set in stone...coaches aren't dumb enough to get a guy like Curry and not run him off of tons of screens to cause a lot of problems for defenses.

I don't think you are understanding the order of events properly.

[QUOTE=DMAVS41]Ok.

There seems to be confusion.

I am not arguing that Curry could replace any player on a team and do as good or better in that role. Of course Curry couldn't replace Harden and do as well in that system.

However, you aren't understanding why Dantoni does that system...it is because of Harden. He adapted it to fit Harden.

You act like that is how they played in Phoenix with Nash. They didn't obviously...not at all.

If Curry was on the Rockets in place of Harden they would play much more like the Suns did, but Curry would play off ball more than Nash in part because of skillset and in part because of Paul.

Also, almost every team sets a ton of screens. Again, I'm not sure what league you guys are watching. You act as if "setting screens" is some cheat or that it is specific to the Warriors...and that just isn't the case at all. And, of course, the reason the Warriors set so many "off screens" is because of the skillsets of Curry and Klay. It isn't like a system is just set in stone...coaches aren't dumb enough to get a guy like Curry and not run him off of tons of screens to cause a lot of problems for defenses.

I don't think you are understanding the order of events properly.[/QUOTE]
Of course Dantoni would adapt his system to curry but your the one that said curry could be successful in any system. I misunderstood what you meant.

And I never said screens we're cheating. I said it's part of the game.

My point is basically that curry is limited to how good the system is. If the team can't get him open looks or get him switched on to a slow big, curry won't be as successful. This is why he gets worse come playoff time. Teams do a much better job switching and not allowing curry to get looks or a switch he wants. Teams can't do the same with kd

[QUOTE=DMAVS41]Yes, the player that left an elite roster in OKC to join a 73 win team without him...that was a proven championship team...to replace their only weak link...

That is fine...

Lets focus on the guy that was there from the jump that built the team and proved he could win a title without a MVP winner...unlike Durant.

This shit is going to be even worse than some of us thought. We now have to pretend the Warriors didn't win 67, a title, then 73, and within a couple plays of another...all without KD...in fact, beating KD with a loaded roster....

We have to pretend all that didn't happen in order to prop up the player that made the most bitch made move in sports history.

:facepalm[/QUOTE]


LOL at elite roster. The same roster that got ousted in the first round while replacing KD with another MVP candidate in PG. The same team that was better without westbrook than with him in the lineup just like in 2014. Just move on brah. If a statpadder and not a team player like lebron deserves a superteam for you for playing with role players his whole career then how much more for the best player and a team player like durant who played with a cancer throughout his career. He deserves that 73 win team for all the time wasted.

But youre the same guy who thinks lebron is a better scorer than kobe coz of FG% so im not surprised why youre a westbrook/lebron stan. Coz you dont know shit statnerd.

[QUOTE=knicksman]LOL at elite roster. The same roster that got ousted in the first round while replacing KD with another MVP candidate in PG. The same team that was better without westbrook than with him in the lineup just like in 2014. Just move on brah. If a statpadder and not a team player like lebron deserves a superteam for you for playing with role players his whole career then how much more for the best player and a team player like durant who played with a cancer throughout his career. He deserves that 73 win team for all the time wasted.

But youre the same guy who thinks lebron is a better scorer than kobe coz of FG% so im not surprised why youre a westbrook/lebron stan. Coz you dont know shit statnerd.[/QUOTE]

OKC was an elite roster ...

KD
Westbrook
Ibaka
Roberson
Adams

They had everything. Size, length, experience, defense, shooting, scoring. Get a clue :hammerhead:

[QUOTE=TheCorporation]OKC was an elite roster ...

KD
Westbrook
Ibaka
Roberson
Adams

They had everything. Size, length, experience, defense, shooting, scoring. Get a clue :hammerhead:[/QUOTE]

stick to trolling dummy

:oldlol: It's the first round against an 8 seed whose best player is a 32 year old Lou Williams. Let's see who steps up against the real teams.

Imagine watching a Warriors game and NOT understanding that Curry's mere presence on the court with the basketball in his hand doesn't create for his entire team :lol

How many people on this forum actually watch the game and understand it?

Draymond's ENTIRE career on the offensive end is credited to Curry being either:

- Trapped and STILL finding Draymond rolling to the basket and making an ally-oop pass

or

- Finding Draymond rolling off of a PnR and Dray swinging the ball to another perimeter player.

or

Completely drawing two defenders from a Draymond pick and Draymond hitting some lucky shots from the perimeter because no one respects him from that distance (see 2016 game 7)

[QUOTE=Bronbron23]Of course Dantoni would adapt his system to curry but your the one that said curry could be successful in any system. I misunderstood what you meant.

And I never said screens we're cheating. I said it's part of the game.

My point is basically that curry is limited to how good the system is.[B] If the team can't get him open looks or get him switched on to a slow big, curry won't be as successful. This is why he gets worse come playoff time. Teams do a much better job switching and not allowing curry to get looks or a switch he wants.[/B] Teams can't do the same with kd[/QUOTE]

Curry is limited by a system? No, could not disagree more, Curry is the system. He creates everything you are talking about.

Now, what I think you mean to be arguing is that Curry on a shit team would be limited in comparison to a player like Durant. I agree with that actually, but it means nothing to me as I don't really care which player would be better playing on a shit team.

Again, Curry is being under-rated...

He's averaging 27/6/6 62% TS in the playoffs over the last 5 years.

Like I keep saying...come on now

[QUOTE=knicksman]LOL at elite roster. The same roster that got ousted in the first round while replacing KD with another MVP candidate in PG. The same team that was better without westbrook than with him in the lineup just like in 2014. Just move on brah. If a statpadder and not a team player like lebron deserves a superteam for you for playing with role players his whole career then how much more for the best player and a team player like durant who played with a cancer throughout his career. He deserves that 73 win team for all the time wasted.

But youre the same guy who thinks lebron is a better scorer than kobe coz of FG% so im not surprised why youre a westbrook/lebron stan. Coz you dont know shit statnerd.[/QUOTE]

I don't know what else you call a team with an all-time great like Durant surrounded by what amounted to one of the best supporting casts in the league.

When one of the best players of all-time has really good help...it usually is an elite team...just like the Thunder were from essentially 2011 through 2016.

I think most of you started watching basketball post 2010....because I don't know what words you would use to describe the kind of teams Dirk or KG or Wade or Lebron on the Cavs... even Duncan played with at times if we can't admit Durant played with elite help from 11 through 16 on the Thunder overall.

It diminishes too many great players in history that didn't play with teams that sniffed what KD had in OKC for virtually their entire careers.

And, please don't try to rewrite history only a few years old...KD had plenty of help to beat a 73 win team. They were up 3-1 and Durant absolutely shit the bed in a closeout home game (the biggest game of his career to date)...

So don't give me that crap. If he's as good as you claim...you don't make excuses for a player of that caliber.

He had enough help...and couldn't get it done as the man. And couldn't carry the burden of being a franchise championship player.

Hopefully we get to see him in that role next year on a new team.

[QUOTE=DMAVS41]I don't know what else you call a team with an all-time great like Durant surrounded by what amounted to one of the best supporting casts in the league.

When one of the best players of all-time has really good help...it usually is an elite team...just like the Thunder were from essentially 2011 through 2016.

I think most of you started watching basketball post 2010....because I don't know what words you would use to describe the kind of teams Dirk or KG or Wade or Lebron on the Cavs... even Duncan played with at times if we can't admit Durant played with elite help from 11 through 16 on the Thunder overall.

It diminishes too many great players in history that didn't play with teams that sniffed what KD had in OKC for virtually their entire careers.

And, please don't try to rewrite history only a few years old...KD had plenty of help to beat a 73 win team. They were up 3-1 and Durant absolutely shit the bed in a closeout home game (the biggest game of his career to date)...

So don't give me that crap. If he's as good as you claim...you don't make excuses for a player of that caliber.

He had enough help...and couldn't get it done as the man. And couldn't carry the burden of being a franchise championship player.

Hopefully we get to see him in that role next year on a new team.[/QUOTE]

Curry dropped 36-8-5 with 58% from 3 (7/12) in that game 7 right on the Kevin snake Durants head

[QUOTE=And1AllDay]Curry dropped 36-8-5 with 58% from 3 (7/12) in that game 7 right on the Kevin snake Durants head[/QUOTE]

It is hilarious.

In the game 6...the Thunder were up 8 entering the 4th. They were up 5 with like 4 minutes left.

Durant was awful. Shot 41% TS with a 93 ortg in the biggest game of his career....

And yet, according to many on here, he just didn't have enough help.

So, playing a proven championship team...the GOAT regular season team...Durant plays like shit...and his team around him is still good enough to get him an 8 point lead entering the 4th and a 5 point lead with less than 5 minutes to go.

But yea...just not enough help.

How dare an all-time great like Durant be expected to play a decent game to win.

Not to mention they checked every historical box for winning a title...

To argue he didn't have enough help is absurd.

[QUOTE=DMAVS41]I don't know what else you call a team with an all-time great like Durant surrounded by what amounted to one of the best supporting casts in the league.

When one of the best players of all-time has really good help...it usually is an elite team...just like the Thunder were from essentially 2011 through 2016.

I think most of you started watching basketball post 2010....because I don't know what words you would use to describe the kind of teams Dirk or KG or Wade or Lebron on the Cavs... even Duncan played with at times if we can't admit Durant played with elite help from 11 through 16 on the Thunder overall.

It diminishes too many great players in history that didn't play with teams that sniffed what KD had in OKC for virtually their entire careers.

And, please don't try to rewrite history only a few years old...KD had plenty of help to beat a 73 win team. They were up 3-1 and Durant absolutely shit the bed in a closeout home game (the biggest game of his career to date)...

So don't give me that crap. If he's as good as you claim...you don't make excuses for a player of that caliber.

He had enough help...and couldn't get it done as the man. And couldn't carry the burden of being a franchise championship player.

Hopefully we get to see him in that role next year on a new team.[/QUOTE]

again, OKC were better with westbrook out in 2014 just like this year. Yet you think thats elite help. LOL But youre a bron stan so you think triple doubles are great. And you guys are making excuses for lebrons help in cleveland so why cant us?:confusedshrug:

In the end, the only reason why you guys hate durant coz 1 more ring and he ties lebron.

And LOL at burden as the man. Hes the man in golden state. Hes too "the man" that he even won FMVP despite force feeding curry. So LOL at not wanting the burden. And once lebron asked the help of the refs, its not anymore between teams but between all teams and Lebrons big 3 + refs. And they are the underdogs. Lebron was the top dog when he formed superteams while durant still the underdog and he destroyed them.

Why do people act like KD doesn't get overloaded and double-teamed?

What games are people watching?

[QUOTE=DMAVS41]It is hilarious.

In the game 6...the Thunder were up 8 entering the 4th. They were up 5 with like 4 minutes left.

Durant was awful. Shot 41% TS with a 93 ortg in the biggest game of his career....

And yet, according to many on here, he just didn't have enough help.

So, playing a proven championship team...the GOAT regular season team...Durant plays like shit...and his team around him is still good enough to get him an 8 point lead entering the 4th and a 5 point lead with less than 5 minutes to go.

But yea...just not enough help.

How dare an all-time great like Durant be expected to play a decent game to win.

Not to mention they checked every historical box for winning a title...

To argue he didn't have enough help is absurd.[/QUOTE]


Oh hell nah KD had a very stacked team with Russell, Ibaka, Adams, Waiters, Roberson, Kanter. That is a strong roster so the only help Durant was missing was himself :eek:

[QUOTE=knicksman]again, OKC were better with westbrook out in 2014 just like this year. Yet you think thats elite help. LOL But youre a bron stan so you think triple doubles are great. And you guys are making excuses for lebrons help in cleveland so why cant us?:confusedshrug:

In the end, the only reason why you guys hate durant coz 1 more ring and he ties lebron.

And LOL at burden as the man. Hes the man in golden state. Hes too "the man" that he even won FMVP despite force feeding curry. So LOL at not wanting the burden. And once lebron asked the help of the refs, its not anymore between teams but between all teams and Lebrons big 3 + refs. And they are the underdogs. Lebron was the top dog when he formed superteams while durant still the underdog and he destroyed them.[/QUOTE]

KD didnt make it out of second round in 2014 when he was up 2-0 against the damn Grizzlies bruh

[QUOTE=And1AllDay]KD didnt make it out of second round in 2014 when he was up 2-0 against the damn Grizzlies bruh[/QUOTE]

Stick to trolling dummy.

[QUOTE=Doranku]:oldlol: It's the first round against an 8 seed whose best player is a 32 year old Lou Williams. Let's see who steps up against the real teams.[/QUOTE]
Are you suggesting that curry will play better next series because he's going up against a better team because he played against Houston last year a d the result was pretty much identical.

[QUOTE=knicksman]again, OKC were better with westbrook out in 2014 just like this year. Yet you think thats elite help. LOL But youre a bron stan so you think triple doubles are great. And you guys are making excuses for lebrons help in cleveland so why cant us?:confusedshrug:

In the end, the only reason why you guys hate durant coz 1 more ring and he ties lebron.

And LOL at burden as the man. Hes the man in golden state. Hes too "the man" that he even won FMVP despite force feeding curry. So LOL at not wanting the burden. And once lebron asked the help of the refs, its not anymore between teams but between all teams and Lebrons big 3 + refs. And they are the underdogs. Lebron was the top dog when he formed superteams while durant still the underdog and he destroyed them.[/QUOTE]

This has nothing to do with Lebron for me. Absolutely 0. You keep bringing him up like it means something..it doesn't. You can't make a coherent argument.

He isn't "the man" in GS because that would be, again, a slap in the face to players that actually had to carry the burden of a franchise. You don't get to be called "the man" when you join a 73 win team at your peak as a player.

Again, you made the claim that Durant didn't have enough help on OKC. So I'd like to know why your expectations are so low for him.

Durant shot 41% TS in the biggest game of his career at home...and his team still had a legit lead late in the 4th.

Do you really expect him to knock off the Warriors while playing like dogshit? Funny thing...if he had made a couple clutch shots...he still could have...that was how good his team was around him.

Looking forward to another incoherent response about Lebron or how the Thunder were better without Russ.

Like when Durant got bitched out in 5 against the Grizzlies when he couldn't score efficiently after Russ got hurt?

[QUOTE=DMAVS41]This has nothing to do with Lebron for me. Absolutely 0. You keep bringing him up like it means something..it doesn't. You can't make a coherent argument.

He isn't "the man" in GS because that would be, again, a slap in the face to players that actually had to carry the burden of a franchise. You don't get to be called "the man" when you join a 73 win team at your peak as a player.

Again, you made the claim that Durant didn't have enough help on OKC. So I'd like to know why your expectations are so low for him.

Durant shot 41% TS in the biggest game of his career at home...and his team still had a legit lead late in the 4th.

Do you really expect him to knock off the Warriors while playing like dogshit? Funny thing...if he had made a couple clutch shots...he still could have...that was how good his team was around him.

Looking forward to another incoherent response about Lebron or how the Thunder were better without Russ.

Like when Durant got bitched out in 5 against the Grizzlies when he couldn't score efficiently after Russ got hurt?[/QUOTE]

After what happened in the finals? Its obvious that this league is scripted so I wouldnt be surprised if durant sold the game coz they want GSW in the finals. GSW have better ratings.

And LOL at he isnt the man. Hes the one taking over games. Hes the first option in crunch time. You really think he would join GSW if he isnt the man on the team? LOL

All OKC needed is to get rid of westbrook. Addition by substraction. Is that too much to ask? Were not asking for 2 superstars like you bron stans are.

[QUOTE=knicksman]After what happened in the finals? Its obvious that this league is scripted so I wouldnt be surprised if durant sold the game coz they want GSW in the finals. GSW have better ratings.

And LOL at he isnt the man. Hes the one taking over games. Hes the first option in crunch time. You really think he would join GSW if he isnt the man on the team? LOL

All OKC needed is to get rid of westbrook. Addition by substraction. Is that too much to ask? Were not asking for 2 superstars like you bron stans are.[/QUOTE]

If nothing else, you have to admire the persistence to troll on this shitty board for 10k+ post. I mean it's pathetic of course, but still admirable in some kind of fukked up way for the drive. This of course isn't his only account which really makes the pathetic level rise to an inordinate level. :lol

[QUOTE=knicksman]After what happened in the finals? Its obvious that this league is scripted so I wouldnt be surprised if durant sold the game coz they want GSW in the finals. GSW have better ratings.

And LOL at he isnt the man. Hes the one taking over games. Hes the first option in crunch time. You really think he would join GSW if he isnt the man on the team? LOL

All OKC needed is to get rid of westbrook. Addition by substraction. Is that too much to ask? Were not asking for 2 superstars like you bron stans are.[/QUOTE]

Wow

Please stick to trolling. PLEASE