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[URL="https://sportnewsafrica.com/afrobasket-masculin-2021-tacko-fall-et-georges-niang-avec-le-senegal/"]Senegal’s national men’s basketball team coach Boniface Ndong released on Wednesday a list of 25 players for the Afrobasket qualifiers in November, with the presence of Tacko Fall (Boston) and Georges Niang (Utah)[/URL].
– via [URL="https://sportnewsafrica.com/afrobasket-masculin-2021-tacko-fall-et-georges-niang-avec-le-senegal/"]Sport News Africa[/URL]
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[QUOTE]Twitter: [URL="https://*********.com/2020/06/11/nba-player-twitter-follows/"]Rudy Gobert (Utah Jazz) started following owner Mark Cuban[/URL].
– via [URL="https://*********.com/2020/06/11/nba-player-twitter-follows/"]*********[/URL]
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Imagine him and Donic! :cry:
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[QUOTE]Bryan Kalbrosky: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Devon Dotson had a strong workout in NYC with Utah Jazz star Donovan Mitchell and elite trainer Chris Brickley, per source. Utah needs a point guard with Mike Conley entering the final year of his deal and Dotson will get real consideration[/URL].
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/BryanKalbrosky"]Twitter BryanKalbrosky[/URL]
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They have Mitchell. Be more worried about center with Gobert and Bradley free agents
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[QUOTE]NBA 2K21: [URL="http://twitter.com/NBA2K/status/1319296076457803781"]You agree with Donovan Mitchell (88) and Rudy Gobert’s (87) #2KRatings?[/URL]
– via [URL="http://twitter.com/NBA2K/status/1319296076457803781"]Twitter[/URL]
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Mitchell ahead of Gobert? :roll:
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About six weeks after a 13-year-old boy with autism was shot by Salt Lake City Police, the city’s first responders have partnered with two prominent members of the community to improve how they are trained in interacting with people who have sensory needs. [URL="https://www.deseret.com/sports/2020/10/15/21518283/utah-jazz-joe-ingles-salt-lake-city-police-department-kulture-city-autism"]The Salt Lake City Police Department announced Thursday that it, along with the fire department and 911 dispatch, are teaming up with Utah Jazz forward Joe Ingles and his wife Renae — whose 4-year-old son, Jacob, has autism — to institute a program aimed at “instilling understanding, acceptance, and empathy in the City’s first responders toward those who have sensory needs.”[/URL]
– via [URL="https://www.deseret.com/sports/2020/10/15/21518283/utah-jazz-joe-ingles-salt-lake-city-police-department-kulture-city-autism"]Ryan McDonald @ deseret.com[/URL]
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Nothing has changed when it comes to Windler, which is at least mildly surprising after he missed his entire rookie season with a stress fracture in his lower left leg. The Cavs view him as a core piece of this rebuild and are prepared to give him a big role in 2020-21. The leaguewide view hasn’t changed either. [URL="https://www.cleveland.com/cavs/2020/10/what-is-cleveland-cavaliers-best-case-scenario-for-2020-nba-draft-hey-chris.html"]Sources say he’s the most asked-about player in talks with other teams — even though the Cavs have no interest in dealing him.[/URL] It makes sense, too, because he’s such an easy fit and playoff-caliber squads (Golden State and San Antonio) were eyeing at him at the back of the first round before the Cavs grabbed him at No. 26.
– via [URL="https://www.cleveland.com/cavs/2020/10/what-is-cleveland-cavaliers-best-case-scenario-for-2020-nba-draft-hey-chris.html"]Chris Fedor @ Cleveland Plain Dealer[/URL]
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[QUOTE]Miami’s Duncan Robinson, a fine young player, has been erased through the first two games. It reminds me of Bob Myers’ famous declaration at the 2019 Sloan Conference, wherein the Warriors team president and general manager said, [URL="https://theathletic.com/2112476/2020/10/03/nba-finals-thoughts-duncan-robinson-is-getting-subjected-to-the-bob-myers-rule/"]“The playoffs are nothing like the regular season. They are two completely different sports.” Based on this principle, the Myers Rule is as follows: A lack of versatility is playoff vulnerability[/URL]. The example Myers used was shooters. Specifically, how little they mattered once the Dynasty Warriors were through with them. “That two feet of space you had in the regular season is two inches (in the playoffs),” Myers said. “You watch how many cannot make a shot in the playoffs and shoot 42 percent in the regular season. You watch the playoffs; you’ll know who can play basketball.”
– via [URL="https://theathletic.com/2112476/2020/10/03/nba-finals-thoughts-duncan-robinson-is-getting-subjected-to-the-bob-myers-rule/"]Ethan Strauss @ The Athletic[/URL]
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The Jazz can't play big or choose not to with their two rookies that are actually PF's. But let's keep talking about Favors, draft picks and wings! :facepalm
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[URL="https://kslsports.com/442976/jazz-gobert-shares-support-for-uyghur-muslims-in-china/"]Rudy Gobert shared his support for Uyghur Muslims in China on Instagram Thursday.[/URL] The Utah Jazz center is the first big name from the NBA community to speak out against the human rights violations in China since Houston Rockets general manager Daryl Morey shared a tweeted supporting protestors in Hong Kong last October.
– via [URL="https://kslsports.com/442976/jazz-gobert-shares-support-for-uyghur-muslims-in-china/"]KSL Sports[/URL]
Gobert shared a viral post from French actor Omar Sy condemning the government in China which has been accused of detaining several hundred thousand Uyghurs and sending them to “re-education camps.” [URL="https://kslsports.com/442976/jazz-gobert-shares-support-for-uyghur-muslims-in-china/"]“Millions of Uyghur Muslims are detained and tortured in concentration camps in China,” The caption for the post read. “Not for what they do, but for who they are. It is the largest mass incarceration of the 21st century. It has to end. #FreeUyghurs.”[/URL]
– via [URL="https://kslsports.com/442976/jazz-gobert-shares-support-for-uyghur-muslims-in-china/"]KSL Sports[/URL]
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Sarah Todd: French draft prospect [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Theo Maledon said that the Utah Jazz are one of the teams that he’s spoken to[/URL].
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/NBASarah"]Twitter NBASarah[/URL]
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[url]https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/260101/Nets-Expected-To-Decline-Option-On-Garrett-Temple[/url]
He might make some sense. He's been mentioned before because he played for Snyder in the Gleague
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[url]https://saltcityhoops.com/how-a-cap-maneuver-could-drop-conleys-2020-21-price-extend-his-stay-in-utah/[/url]
[QUOTE]It’s simple: this maneuver allows them to reallocate some of Conley’s meaty 2020-21 salary figure to future years, while also keeping this new core together. The Jazz still don’t feel like they’ve gotten an earnest chance to see how good the roster they’ve built could be together. Conley struggled, then was hurt, then had to work his way back to starting, and by the time he had done all that, the new core had only a month or so together before it was Bojan Bogdanovic’s turn to miss time. They’d like more time to see how good the Gobert-Mitchell-Bogey-Conley core could be, especially with a smart rotation [URL="https://saltcityhoops.com/offseason-targets-part-i-finding-a-paint-protecting-rim-finishing-big/"]upgrade[/URL] or [URL="https://saltcityhoops.com/offseason-targets-part-ii-big-wings-who-can-defend-shoot/"]two[/URL].
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I think we have a pretty good idea how good it is offensively. Need to get better defensively though
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[URL="https://saltcityhoops.com/how-a-cap-maneuver-could-drop-conleys-2020-21-price-extend-his-stay-in-utah/#comment-99514"]November 3, 2020 at 12:40 pm[/URL]
Could we work out an extension then sign and trade him?
No doubt Conley is a great guy and a great player, but he is a lousy fit with the Jazz.
On offense, Mitchell needs to be the PG. And on D, having both guards 6’1″ or shorter is an enormous liability. The Jazz woould be much better off with a 3&D guy, 6’4″+ running with Mitchell, and we could get that at half the price of Conley.
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I think it can work. Conley needs to come off the bench. Still play him big minutes just start someone bigger. Bojan and Clarkson need to go. Need a starting PF!!!
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[QUOTE]Ryen Russillo: [URL="https://www.theringer.com/the-bill-simmons-podcast/2020/11/3/21548501/the-nbas-murky-future-with-ryen-russillo-and-best-streaming-tv-movies-with-wesley-morris"]I’ve heard Gordon Hayward does want out, but I don’t know if he’s gonna get the money. He’s not opting out of that huge number unless he knows he’s getting the deal[/URL].
– via [URL="https://www.theringer.com/the-bill-simmons-podcast/2020/11/3/21548501/the-nbas-murky-future-with-ryen-russillo-and-best-streaming-tv-movies-with-wesley-morris"]Bill Simmons, Ryen Russillo @ The Ringer[/URL]
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should have stayed where you had it good. Hayward for Bojan and pieces? Boston wouldn't want Bojan
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[QUOTE]Nets Daily: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Vincent Goodwill of Yahoo Sports recently reported as many as 10 teams have made calls to inquire about Holiday[/URL].
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/NetsDaily"]Twitter NetsDaily[/URL]
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Jazz better be one of them. Anything but Rudy and Mitchell!
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[URL]https://www.deseret.com/sports/2020/11/4/21549223/nba-draft-cliches-utah-jazz-age-one-and-done-college-basketball-skills[/URL]
[QUOTE]We’re talking about the difference between a 19-year-old and a 22-year-old. Spoiler alert, it’s not that big of difference.
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in the NBA it is though. Look at the difference between Bradley at 19 and 22. I doubt he'll improve as much by 25
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[QUOTE][URL="https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/30221719/giannis-antetokounmpo-future-all-star-trades-nba-draft-everything-else-watch-offseason"]Several rival executives have pitched the Mavs as a trade destination for Rudy Gobert,[/URL] who is eligible for a supermax. I get the thinking — a rim-running center to stabilize Dallas’ shaky defense — but I can’t get there. Devoting $65 million combined to Gobert and Porzingis when the latter needs to play a good chunk at center is not optimal.
– via [URL="https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/30221719/giannis-antetokounmpo-future-all-star-trades-nba-draft-everything-else-watch-offseason"]Zach Lowe @ ESPN[/URL]
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Makes little sense unless you trade Porzingas which I'd do in a second. He's no Rudy
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[QUOTE][URL="https://*********.com/social/tweets/"]Joe Ingles: Happy birthday to my guy @TreyLyles!! No 3 hour practice for you, take the day off[/URL]
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/Joeingles7"]Twitter Joeingles7[/URL]
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Joe! :roll:
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[url]https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/260132/Pistons-Signal-Interest-In-Taking-On-Unwanted-Contracts-Attached-To-Draft-Picks[/url]
Bojan? Ed? Joe?
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[QUOTE]Salman Ali: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Stephen Silas says the Rockets intend to play a lot less “predictable”: “In today’s NBA, you cannot just play one way.[/URL] You have to have different styles.”
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/SalmanAliNBA"]Twitter SalmanAliNBA[/URL]
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hope the Jazz figured that out as well
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Tony Jones: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]The Utah Jazz have recently worked out University of Arizona shooting guard Josh Green,[/URL] League Sources tell The Athletic….
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/Tjonesonthenba"]Twitter Tjonesonthenba[/URL]
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[url]https://www.deseret.com/sports/2020/11/5/21551158/rudy-gobert-to-the-dallas-mavericks-signing-a-nonsupermax-extension[/url]
[QUOTE]“Do the rebuilding Bucks want Gobert?,” Lowe wrote. “They would almost certainly prefer Porzingis, but that leaves Dallas figuring out how to fit Antetokounmpo and Gobert on offense — or finding a third team for him. (There’s also the small matter of whether Dallas has much Utah would want.)”
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why would anyone want Porzingas over Gobert? :facepalm
[QUOTE]“But I’m not sure how realistic they are,” Lowe wrote. “For one, Utah will need a quality starting center back or risk imploding on defense. Several teams are wary of Gobert’s next deal.”
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they are tanking without him. The defense will certainly tank as will the offense.
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[URL="https://twitter.com/AmNotEvan"]Evan Dammarell
@AmNotEvan
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·[URL="https://twitter.com/AmNotEvan/status/1324368111756365825"]18h[/URL]
According to Lowe, Larry Nance Jr.’s name has popped up in trade discussions across the league.
Get it done Jazz. Bojan for Nance etc. Who says no?
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[URL]https://www.slcdunk.com/2020/11/6/21526965/2020-nba-draft-coverage-leandro-bolmaro-fc-barcelona-basquet[/URL]
[QUOTE]He’s played only about 12 minutes a game due to the European bias towards older, more established players, and not being the game-changing talent of [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/nba/players/299925/luka-doncic"]Luka Doncic[/URL] or even [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/nba/players/297093/ricky-rubio"]Ricky Rubio[/URL], hasn’t truly had the opportunity to truly show off his abilities.[/QUOTE]
which is the way it needs to be here. Gleague until you prove yourself and earn it
[QUOTE]He probably should stay in the EuroLeague for further development, but I suppose there’s no time like now to get into the draft, when most teams can’t really take the time to do deep dives and in-person visits. He can coast off of the hype of potential, get drafted, and try to develop into an impactful player.
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draft and stash if the Jazz were smarter enough to do such things
[QUOTE]Best case, Leandro Bolmaro turns into [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/nba/players/246302/spencer-dinwiddie"]Spencer Dinwiddie[/URL], with maybe shades of his countryman Manu. That’s a player the Jazz have been clamoring for to complement [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/nba/players/285727/donovan-mitchell"]Donovan Mitchell[/URL], but getting to 75% of that level might take 3-4 years, which is a timeline that really doesn’t fit with [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/nba/players/297107/rudy-gobert"]Rudy Gobert[/URL] and co. And, worst case? I see [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/nba/players/246134/dante-exum"]Dante Exum[/URL] with less athleticism. That’s a pretty low floor. While it’s worth noting that [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/nba/players/294573/giannis-antetokounmpo"]Giannis Antetokounmpo[/URL] and [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/nba/players/296718/manu-ginobili"]Manu Ginobili[/URL] had similar (though slightly better) counting stats in the Greek 2nd League and Italian 2nd League when they were drafted, for every Giannis and Manu, there’s dozens of Dragan Benders, Dante Exums, and Darko Milicics.
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they should be able to wait as long as it takes. Patience has served them well with Bradley. Need proven vets and young prospects not one or the other
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Tony Jones: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]The Utah Jazz recently worked out Jaden McDaniels, a small forward out of The university of Washington[/URL]
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/Tjonesonthenba"]Twitter Tjonesonthenba[/URL]
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[URL]https://www.deseret.com/sports/2020/11/7/21553563/refresher-ahead-nba-draft-what-utah-jazz-are-looking-for-this-offseason[/URL]
[QUOTE]To that end, the Utah Jazz have three needs that are pretty easily defined: defensive wing depth, a backup center and a potential third playmaker/point guard.
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It's hard to take anyone serious if they haven't noticed the Jazz don't have a PF! They can't play big. You have to be versatile. The two teams with the best records last season played big. Sure they can match up with Denver. What about the other teams? :facepalm
[QUOTE]They aren’t looking for a star or to make a blockbuster move, which puts them in a pretty good spot as far as teams on the rise are concerned. They have their cornerstones and a starting unit that is reliable and capable at the highest offensive levels. They just need a little more on the bench to push them into the upper echelon of the NBA.
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what about defense? Size? Versatility? Depth?
[QUOTE]It’s a little hard to imagine the Jazz taking a center with the 23rd pick in the draft. They already have a young project of a center in Tony Bradley, and it can be very difficult to guarantee success with a youthful center. Now is not the time for more projects or waiting for a couple years on a high risk, high reward player.
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sounds like you and everyone has already given up on their youngest player and he and Gobert are both going to be free agents. They had rookies last year at every position but center. They aren't going to draft someone that will help them right away. They need to draft their next center. Point guard after that with the next in line already old in Goss
[QUOTE]There’s Miye Oni, Jarrell Brantley, Rayjon Tucker and Juwan Morgan who have all shown flashes of being able to provide what the Jazz need, but they need more time on the court during the course of the regular season in order to gel with the rest of the team. In particular, it’s possible that the Jazz look in-house to fill the reserve playmaker role with Oni, who stood out during the seeding games in Orlando.
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Those 4 should be in the mix. I think they could help the defense and they all can shoot to some degree. I think they would have beat Denver if they'd been used. It's why I don't see drafting a 2, 3 or 4 unless they have more than 2 picks
[QUOTE]With the way that Lindsey phrased the needs of the team and the shortcomings that were on display during the most recent playoffs, it is very likely that the Jazz look to add an athletic defensive wing with the 23rd pick in the 2020 draft.
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Draft a position where they already have 3 guys? The Stars aren't the concern here. The Jazz are
[QUOTE]The NBA draft is usually one of the most exciting nights on the NBA calendar, but the usual pomp and circumstance will be a little short-lived this year. The turnaround time between the draft and free agency is going to go by in the blink of an eye. With the season set to begin on Dec. 22, the Jazz can’t really afford to miss on two free agent signings like they did with Ed Davis and Jeff Green.
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Missed on Bojan too. They don't have a PF
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[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/nba-draft/2020/11/7/21524593/2020-nba-draft-coverage-precious-achiuwa-memphis[/url]
small ball 4. Next...
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[url]https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2020/8/20/21374098/nba-mock-draft-2020-lottery-order-timberwolves-warriors-bulls[/url]
a pg at least
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[url]https://www.bulletsforever.com/2020/11/8/21554097/deal-of-the-day-wizards-jazz-tony-bradley[/url]
[QUOTE]The Jazz acquired guard [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/nba/players/246165/jordan-clarkson"]Jordan Clarkson[/URL] last December to give their bench unit some scoring punch. They were undermanned in the playoffs and basically had to let Clarkson do whatever he could once in the game. Now Clarkson is an unrestricted free agent. If they lose him they’ll be on the lookout for more bench scoring help. Of course they have other needs as well and can’t just sign unlimited FAs. Enter our main man with the bubble bounce plan, [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/nba/players/326935/jerome-robinson"]Jerome Robinson[/URL].
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they didn't have to let Clarkson do that. The coach let him do it when he wouldn't let Alec Burks do it.
[QUOTE]Bradley was the 28th pick of the 2017 draft after he surprised everyone (ME!) by leaving the University of National Champions (UNC) after his freshman year. We’re not going to talk about how he could have won back-to-back titles but he left and they were ousted by Texas A+M in the second round. Why would we talk about that?
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and how much money has he made instead? How much better has he been able to get at basketball working at it everyday instead of going to class?
If Robinson can play D and they really are planning on replacing Bradley anyway maybe. Looks like Robinson's shot is improving and he passes a bit as well.
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[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/nba-draft/2020/11/8/21554486/2020-nba-draft-coverage-malachi-flynn-san-diego-state[/url]
[QUOTE]Physical: 22 years old, 6’1” with a 6’3” wingspan, 185 pounds[/QUOTE]
at least he's a pg. They wouldn't touch that length though
[QUOTE]The fit is pretty good here, and the team will eventually need a replacement for [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/nba/players/246165/jordan-clarkson"]Jordan Clarkson[/URL] (whether this season or down the road). As a team-first player, Flynn will likely understand his role at the NBA level and should perform admirably within that role. His high basketball IQ, leadership, and motor are all things that the Jazz have historically coveted in prospects.
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the length alone says he doesn't fit. Already have Wright Forman and possibly Mudiay that can replace the gunner. Need a center
[QUOTE][URL="https://www.sbnation.com/nba/players/296732/patty-mills"]Patty Mills[/URL], [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/nba/players/296924/trey-burke"]Trey Burke[/URL], [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/nba/players/282814/fred-vanvleet"]Fred VanVleet[/URL], [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/nba/players/258006/t-j-mcconnell"]T.J. McConnell[/URL] with a 3-point shot
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just what they need the 2nd coming of Trey! :roll:
[QUOTE][h=4]He's not short enough[/h]
we need to get smaller
Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/statpower"]statpower[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/nba-draft/2020/11/8/21554486/2020-nba-draft-coverage-malachi-flynn-san-diego-state#533399188"]Nov 8, 2020 | 7:58 PM[/URL]
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exactly! :lol
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[url]https://sircharlesincharge.com/2020/11/06/boston-celtics-landing-spots-gordon-hayward/2/[/url]
[QUOTE]Hayward is a player that they could go to as a potential second or third option on the offensive end, is a good enough playmaker, and still a good defender in the right system. Plus, there’s continuity on both sides of a potential reunion.
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not sure who they give up but he might be the 5th or 6th option
Great fit but the fans could never deal with it and I'm not sure who the Celts would take. Ingles, O'Neale, Davis and non guaranteed filler maybe? Not sure I'd want to give up O'Neale for a rental and Ingles was his best pal on the team
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[QUOTE]The teams were not specified, though one source said there are two Eastern Conference teams and one from the West who are interested in sign-and-trade scenarios involving Bertans. That is along with at least three teams – the Hawks, Knicks and Suns included – expected to target Bertans early in free agency using their cap room, as NBC Sports Washington previously reported. Though the teams looking at a sign-and-trade are not known, the dots could possibly be connected to those who were interested in Bertans before the trade deadline. That list included the Celtics, Lakers and Nuggets. – via Chase Hughes @ NBC Sports
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Jazz?
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Shams Charania: Sources: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]NBA Social Justice Coalition Board: Governors: Micky Arison, Steve Ballmer, Clay Bennett, Marc Lasry, Vivek Randadive.[/URL] Players: Carmelo Anthony, Avery Bradley, Sterling Brown, Donovan Mitchell, Karl-Anthony Towns. Coaches: Lloyd Pierce, Doc Rivers.
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania"]Twitter ShamsCharania[/URL]
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[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/nba-draft/2020/11/9/21554297/2020-nba-draft-coverage-immanuel-quickley-kentucky[/url]
[QUOTE]Physical: 21 years old, 6’3” with a 6’10” wingspan, 188 pounds
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another undersized shooting guard. next
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[QUOTE]Bobby Marks: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Salary cap in 2021/22 Low of $112.4M and high of $120M[/URL] Super max extension of Giannis Antetokounmpo will range from $228M to $244M
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/BobbyMarks42"]Twitter BobbyMarks42[/URL]
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I guess same super max for Rudy?
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[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;14178339][URL="https://twitter.com/AmNotEvan"]Evan Dammarell
@AmNotEvan
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·[URL="https://twitter.com/AmNotEvan/status/1324368111756365825"]18h[/URL]
According to Lowe, Larry Nance Jr.’s name has popped up in trade discussions across the league.
Get it done Jazz. Bojan for Nance etc. Who says no?[/QUOTE]
Hopefully the Jazz not only say no, but choke on their own laughter as they slam down the phone.
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Ignoring the reality that the Jazz are almost certainly just going to run it back on the hope that Bojan being healthy, Conley finally finding his footing, and everyone having a year of gelling together under their belts, they really have to face the reality that you need 2 superstars or a team where a guy like Bojan is the fourth best player to win the whole thing. For the small market Jazz, the first option isn’t in play; we don’t have one superstar, so two is a huge stretch. So they have to find a way to make the second option work.
IMO, there’s two ways to do that: one, use Conley’s expiring deal to try to get an All-Star level talent that is eating up cap on a team where that guy doesn’t fit, or trade one of Utah’s current stars in a package deal to try to get that first superstar. Since Mitchell is still on his rookie deal, he’s not the piece to trade and expect equal or better value. That leaves trading Gobert.
Ideally, the Pistons are sold on Christian Wood as their PF of the future, and so they are looking to shed Griffin’s deal ahead of next summer’s sparkling FA class. If that’s the case, maybe Griffin could be acquired for Conley and a pick or a prospect. If the Jazz could swing that, and then use exceptions to pick up another wing and another big, that would be a giant leap forward.
On Gobert, I’m sick of seeing proposed trades where we give him up for complete sh!t. Everyone seems to think he’s done in Utah and the Jazz will offload him for pennies on the dollar. And for the love of everything holy, if I see one more Gobert for Gordon Hayward article...
It is a long shot, but the Jazz should be calling the Sixers to see how badly they want out of Harris’s contract. If the situation with Simmons and Embiid truly isn’t great, and the Sixers REALLY have buyers remorse on Harris, I could see the Sixers doing Gobert, Conley, Niang, and a pick for Embiid and Harris. If the Jazz were then to target guys like Joe Harris or Bertans with the MLE (unlikely, but maybe they take a discount), the Jazz could surround Embiid with a roster of very good to elite shooters.
But all of this is for naught. Conley is a good guy and the Jazz won’t ship him out after one crazy odd year. They need to strike while the iron is hot (i.e. while Mitchell is still on his rookie deal) but they won’t.
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Re: 2020/2021? off season
[QUOTE=CakeorDeath;14181190]Ignoring the reality that the Jazz are almost certainly just going to run it back on the hope that Bojan being healthy, Conley finally finding his footing, and everyone having a year of gelling together under their belts, they really have to face the reality that you need 2 superstars or a team where a guy like Bojan is the fourth best player to win the whole thing. For the small market Jazz, the first option isn’t in play; we don’t have one superstar, so two is a huge stretch. So they have to find a way to make the second option work.
IMO, there’s two ways to do that: one, use Conley’s expiring deal to try to get an All-Star level talent that is eating up cap on a team where that guy doesn’t fit, or trade one of Utah’s current stars in a package deal to try to get that first superstar. Since Mitchell is still on his rookie deal, he’s not the piece to trade and expect equal or better value. That leaves trading Gobert.
Ideally, the Pistons are sold on Christian Wood as their PF of the future, and so they are looking to shed Griffin’s deal ahead of next summer’s sparkling FA class. If that’s the case, maybe Griffin could be acquired for Conley and a pick or a prospect. If the Jazz could swing that, and then use exceptions to pick up another wing and another big, that would be a giant leap forward.
On Gobert, I’m sick of seeing proposed trades where we give him up for complete sh!t. Everyone seems to think he’s done in Utah and the Jazz will offload him for pennies on the dollar. And for the love of everything holy, if I see one more Gobert for Gordon Hayward article...
It is a long shot, but the Jazz should be calling the Sixers to see how badly they want out of Harris’s contract. If the situation with Simmons and Embiid truly isn’t great, and the Sixers REALLY have buyers remorse on Harris, I could see the Sixers doing Gobert, Conley, Niang, and a pick for Embiid and Harris. If the Jazz were then to target guys like Joe Harris or Bertans with the MLE (unlikely, but maybe they take a discount), the Jazz could surround Embiid with a roster of very good to elite shooters.
But all of this is for naught. Conley is a good guy and the Jazz won’t ship him out after one crazy odd year. They need to strike while the iron is hot (i.e. while Mitchell is still on his rookie deal) but they won’t.[/QUOTE]
I'm sure they will bring them all back. It's the Jazz. Maybe with a new owner there is finally hope they can change though
Griffin makes a lot of sense from an offensive perspective but they need to get better on defense and he can't stay healthy
Simmons makes even less sense with Rudy than with Embiid
Bojan is the guy to move if they can get a PF that makes sense. They need a PF. You have to be able to play big as well as small. Bojan brings little to the table besides his shooting and scoring. Offense isn't their problem!
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Re: 2020/2021? off season
If the old adage is true that a rising tide lifts all boats, the recent sale of the small-market Utah Jazz benefits teams large and small across the major leagues. Another adage also applies: The rich get richer – in this case, team owners. And a pandemic that halted live sports eight months ago and roiled the industry hasn’t really affected team prices. [URL="https://theathletic.com/2183445/2020/11/06/small-market-utah-jazz-sale-expected-to-boost-value-of-nba-teams/?fbclid=IwAR2Xe5VrorBUQGI8aIVyGvgOmnWAWynXSpg2GTDvXUg6o83H6j_9SP5dC1Q"]The Jazz, along with an arena and a couple of minor-league teams, were sold for $1.6 billion in a deal expected to be approved by the league’s other owners with little debate. Those who specialize in team valuations and sales say the Jazz price falls in line with expectations and doesn’t reflect any pandemic discount[/URL].
– via [URL="https://theathletic.com/2183445/2020/11/06/small-market-utah-jazz-sale-expected-to-boost-value-of-nba-teams/?fbclid=IwAR2Xe5VrorBUQGI8aIVyGvgOmnWAWynXSpg2GTDvXUg6o83H6j_9SP5dC1Q"]Bill Shea @ The Athletic[/URL]
[URL="https://theathletic.com/2183445/2020/11/06/small-market-utah-jazz-sale-expected-to-boost-value-of-nba-teams/?fbclid=IwAR2Xe5VrorBUQGI8aIVyGvgOmnWAWynXSpg2GTDvXUg6o83H6j_9SP5dC1Q"]“I thought it was a pretty good price. I wasn’t shocked. It goes to show the resiliency and strength of the (NBA),” said Steve Greenberg,[/URL] managing director of New York City-based boutique investment bank Allen & Co. where he has advised both buyers and sellers of numerous teams.
– via [URL="https://theathletic.com/2183445/2020/11/06/small-market-utah-jazz-sale-expected-to-boost-value-of-nba-teams/?fbclid=IwAR2Xe5VrorBUQGI8aIVyGvgOmnWAWynXSpg2GTDvXUg6o83H6j_9SP5dC1Q"]Bill Shea @ The Athletic[/URL]
Michael Rapkoch, who also creates team values for buyers and sellers, agreed. [URL="https://theathletic.com/2183445/2020/11/06/small-market-utah-jazz-sale-expected-to-boost-value-of-nba-teams/?fbclid=IwAR2Xe5VrorBUQGI8aIVyGvgOmnWAWynXSpg2GTDvXUg6o83H6j_9SP5dC1Q"]“The price seems fair and doesn’t reflect a COVID-19 discount. I think this is a positive for smaller market teams, and quite the accomplishment for the NBA.[/URL] Ten years ago a lot of teams were sold for around $300 million. Now, that price has increased five-fold, despite the ups and downs of the U.S. economy,” said Rapkoch who is president of Addison, Texas-based Sports Value Consulting, LLC. “This is why we have been saying that sports is great for portfolio diversification.”
– via [URL="https://theathletic.com/2183445/2020/11/06/small-market-utah-jazz-sale-expected-to-boost-value-of-nba-teams/?fbclid=IwAR2Xe5VrorBUQGI8aIVyGvgOmnWAWynXSpg2GTDvXUg6o83H6j_9SP5dC1Q"]Bill Shea @ The Athletic[/URL]
While fans may not have much interest in a team’s sale price, they are definitely interested in how a new owner runs the team, his or her decision-making and hires. [URL="https://theathletic.com/2183445/2020/11/06/small-market-utah-jazz-sale-expected-to-boost-value-of-nba-teams/?fbclid=IwAR2Xe5VrorBUQGI8aIVyGvgOmnWAWynXSpg2GTDvXUg6o83H6j_9SP5dC1Q"]“(The price) does not affect how a Jazz fan feels about his or her team,” Greenberg said. “It’s quality of ownership and if they have the wherewithal to put on a first-class product on the court and run the franchise effectively and well. Does the owner of the team, irrespective of what they paid, have the ability, knowhow and wherewithal to make the right decisions and manage the team properly?”[/URL]
– via [URL="https://theathletic.com/2183445/2020/11/06/small-market-utah-jazz-sale-expected-to-boost-value-of-nba-teams/?fbclid=IwAR2Xe5VrorBUQGI8aIVyGvgOmnWAWynXSpg2GTDvXUg6o83H6j_9SP5dC1Q"]Bill Shea @ The Athletic[/URL]
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Re: 2020/2021? off season
[QUOTE]Rick Bonnell: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Sounds like the Pelicans are looking for a third team to facilitate a Jrue Holiday trade (where Holiday gets to a contender).[/URL] I wonder if the Hornets would make any sense for that.
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/rick_bonnell"]Twitter rick_bonnell[/URL]
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get it done!
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Re: 2020/2021? off season
[url]https://www.sltrib.com/sports/jazz/2020/11/10/analysis-nba-owners/[/url]
[QUOTE]If Mike Conley opts in to the final year of his deal (super likely), and the Jazz guarantee the salaries of Georges Niang (very likely), Miye Oni (pretty much definitely) and Nigel Williams-Goss (rather more dubious), they’ve already got roughly $118 million committed in salary. And that’s not even counting a new deal for Clarkson … or retaining the likes of intriguing young guys like Juwan Morgan or Rayjon Tucker. They’ll also owe a salary to [URL="https://www.sltrib.com/sports/jazz/2020/10/24/tribune-nba-mock-draft/"]their first-round draft pick[/URL].
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when are the guarantee dates on these guys? Niang is before the draft I believe so you probably have to keep him. I'd ideally want to keep the others except probably Goss will have to go. Those guys should be in the mix for the rotation. They can improve the defense without killing the offense. Goodbye Clarkson!
No mention of Brantley who they should sign. He should be in the mix for the rotation. Forman Wright would probably have to be on a two way deal again. You carry 6 rookies on a supposedly contending team you better plan on keeping most of them around or what was the point to begin with? Mudiay I'd welcome back in the same role. Got to think he can do better though