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[QUOTE]Azubuike ranked among the best leapers at any position in the pre-draft process having recorded an impressive 41-inch vertical leap, the fourth highest of any player measured. His 37 inch standing vertical leap was the second-highest of any player measured.


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sounds like he's an athlete. Rudy on his way out? The tank in the near future?

[QUOTE]Like most second-round pick rookies, Hughes joins the Jazz without a guaranteed contract. However, he should be a safe bet to make the roster on a low-cost rookie deal.


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the other two way I would imagine

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[h=4]As a reminder, Conley will make $34.5m this season.[/h]
And there is a significant difference between my criticisms of Conley and AdMan’s criticisms of Gobert:
Gobert is worth his contract.

Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/Kira%20Argonova"]Kira Argonova[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/2020/11/20/21587739/nba-free-agency-open-thread-2020-utah-jazz#533749569"]Nov 21, 2020 | 5:08 AM[/URL]

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Let's talk Clarkson's contract why don't we :facepalm

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[URL="https://twitter.com/ScottDKushner/status/1330140099246485506"]about 2 hours ago[/URL]
Steven Adams is a better version of the locker room fit the Pelicans were hoping to get with Derrick Favors last year. Professional who does the inglorious stuff and was beloved by his longtime organization. But Adams is much more vocal and eager to mix it up w/ opponents.
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but can he spot up from the corner?

[QUOTE][h=4]Right when I said that Nuggets got Green. We’ve got more defense now though.[/h]

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[h=4]JaMychal Green?[/h]

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[h=4]2 years $15 mill seems ridiculously cheap[/h]

Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/SKMike"]SKMike[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/2020/11/20/21587739/nba-free-agency-open-thread-2020-utah-jazz#533752924"]Nov 21, 2020 | 8:22 AM[/URL]

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Rather have the starting 4. All sorts of guys out there they could have had cheaper that fit better. George Hill you now will be traded again from OKC. Rather have him than Clarkson and you already know his fit. Jazz and their loyalty and sentiment hurts them again. They had a chance to be a special team and instead they probably got a little better. Depends on how much Favors is on the floor with Rudy and how much can get the ball out of Clarkson's hands

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[URL="https://twitter.com/BensHoops/status/1330198620428177415"]about 1 hour ago[/URL]
Seeing the De’Anthony Melton and Kris Dunn deals and you get a sense of why signing Trent Forrest makes sense for the Jazz. Elite defenders with some playmaking chops still have a spot in the NBA. Low cost gamble on a two-way deal.
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He makes sense because pg was the number 2 thing they needed in the draft and they didn't get one with the 2nd pick. Sounds like he's Rubio at a cheap price. Maybe he can even finish?

[QUOTE]Favors said he is fine with whatever role. “Whatever it is, coming off the bench, starting, I’m cool with it,” he said. “I’ve been in this league a long time. I’ve made money, I’ve played on different teams and been in different situations. At this point of my career, I just want to win. I’m super excited to be coming back to Utah. I enjoyed my time in New Orleans. I loved playing on a really good young team. But right now, I just felt like this was the situation that I needed to be in.” – via Tony Jones @ The Athletic


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20 milion reasons. I won't be cool with you starting!

[QUOTE]If the Jazz are just barely under the tax
I don’t think anything else will happen. There is no player that is worth starting the repeat for the luxury tax that is worth the BAE. Next year they are definitely paying the tax so staying under this year is very important.


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Clarkson and Favors in the corner certainly aren't worth paying tax. I like the young guys from last year. What they are missing is a starting 4

[QUOTE]Still think more can be done
Trade Tucker and Niang for a bigger Combo Guard.
Try and send to Atlanta for cap space


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No need to. They have 3 exceptions and those guys are partial and non guaranteed though Niang needs to be guaranteed soon I imagine? I like both of them so it needs to be someone worth getting.

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[URL="https://twitter.com/Lockedonsports/status/1330254404755320838"]about 54 minutes ago[/URL]
If the Utah Jazz plan on adding a PG here is what is on the market Jeff Teague Brandon Knight Matthew Dellavedova Elfrid Payton Yogi Ferrell Quinn Cook Shabazz Napier Brad Wanamaker Emmanuel Mudiay Gary Payton II Shaquille Harrison Reggie Jackson Jerian Grant Preference?

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WESTERN CONFERENCE DEPTH CHARTS Utah Jazz Depth Chart PG: Mike Conley SG: Donovan Mitchell (Jordan Clarkson, Elijah Hughes) SF: Royce O'Neale (Joe Ingles, Miye Oni) PF: Bojan Bogdanovic (Georges Niang, Jarrell Brantley) C: Rudy Gobert (Derrick Favors, Doka, Morgan)
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O'Neale is the 4.How is Hughes over Tucker? Brantley not signed yet. Morgan should be there

[QUOTE][h=4]Ah yes. I would like to see a Jazz versus ex Jazz game[/h]
Would be entertaining

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They might lose

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He'd make some sense. Can run pick and roll

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Denver, Dallas, Phoenix, Portland, Utah, Houston, Golden State. If we assume the LA teams are locks, one of these seven HAS to finish out of the top eight (even though that matters less now obviously). Pretend that everyone is healthy. Who's No. 9?
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Suns have a lot to prove still

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Nuggets pull qualifying offer on forward Torrey Craig [URL="https://t.co/ODRuM0ax2A"]sportando.basketball/en/nuggets-pul…[/URL]
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Can they get him for an exception?

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Utah Jazz mailbag: The team’s most pressing needs and when to expect extensions for Rudy Gobert and Donovan Mitchell [URL="https://t.co/DGPv5ihVYO"]deseret.com/sports/2020/11…[/URL] [URL="https://t.co/8IK5aM6lye"]pic.twitter.com/8IK5aM6lye[/URL]
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bit a starting 4 would sure be nice

[url]https://hoopshabit.com/2020/11/20/utah-jazz-implications-ed-davis-trade/[/url]

cost them picks! :facepalm

[url]https://hoopshabit.com/2020/11/20/utah-jazz-buy-sell-free-agents/[/url]

[QUOTE]Now the Jazz have to make some free-agency decisions as they have three players they have the option of resigning. These players are [URL="https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/morgaju01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&utm_source=direct&utm_medium=linker-"]Juwan Morgan[/URL], [URL="https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/mudiaem01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&utm_source=direct&utm_medium=linker-"]Emmanuel Mudiay[/URL], and [URL="https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/clarkjo01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&utm_source=direct&utm_medium=linker-"]Jordan Clarkson[/URL]. Let’s see if the Jazz should buy or sell on each of these players.


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as far as I know Morgan has a contract. Brantley and Wright Forman don't

[QUOTE]Morgan, a 6’8″, 230-pound power forward never really found himself at home in the NBA. He only played 21 games and averaged 1.7 points and 1.4 rebounds in just 6.4 minutes per game. He didn’t have a great many highlights for the season.


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He played good I thought

[QUOTE]It is fairly safe to assume that the Jazz are not going to pursue Morgan in free agency as they are looking to move up the standings. Morgan’s impact actually moves the needle backward. He is actually one of ten Jazz players to average less than 6.0 points for the season.


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they had 6 rookies who were in the gleague! He should be in the mix for the backup pf spot not that they have a starting PF

[QUOTE]The power forward position is one the Jazz need to address in the free agency period. They currently have Royce O’Neale starting and opposition teams tend to attack him rather than Gobert. Morgan, however, is not the answer.


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the bigger problem is they don't have the vesatility to play big which I guess now they do but it means Favors spotting up in the corner and them losing the great spacing they had this past season

[QUOTE]When Exum was traded, Mudiay took on the role as the only backup point guard and the Jazz improved as a team. Clarkson’s impact was huge but Mudiay simply ran the team better than Exum.


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not saying much. Exum sucks. Mudiay is better than Clarkson too as far as I'm concerned

[QUOTE]So how can the front office approach the needs at wing depth? They can give Miye Oni more opportunities and extend Georges Niang, who continues to improve on defense. That’s what they can do and what I expect them to do.


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I'm a big Niang fan but he's probably a guy that needs to be at the end of the bench and Brantley or Morgan need to play. Not sure where Oni or Tucker fit in with Clarkson back though. Gobert/Favors/O'Neale/Bojan/Ingles/Mitchell/Clarkson/Conley. That's 8 guys. Snyder played 9 last year. That leaves Niang, Morgan and Brantley for backup 4 minutes assuming Favors/O'Neale don't take all of them now and if he goes 10 deep. Brantley, Oni and Tucker fighting for what's left. What am I missing besides the starting PF that's apparently not in their playbook anymore?


[QUOTE]I know that there’s still hope among Jazz fans that the team will use the bi-annual exception to bring in another player but I don’t think the $3.6 million BAE is going to bring in a high-quality player that would surpass what the Jazz already have, and if that’s the case, then the finances just don’t make sense.


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almost anyone would surpass having no starting 4, Clarkson and Favors spotting up in the corner

[QUOTE]Adding $3.6 million to the books would put the Jazz, who will be a tax-paying team this season, more than $5 million above the luxury tax threshold. There are levels to the luxury tax and it really starts to add up.


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they could get below the tax by the trade deadline. Stupid to pay tax for a team that isn't a contender and this team is probably better than last year but not one of the best teams


[QUOTE]The league has amended the luxury tax so that it is reduced by the same percentage as lost revenue this season but even then, it’s a hefty price for a BAE-level player and I don’t see the value in it.


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There could certainly be value in it depending on who. Clarkson and Favors spotting up in the corner isn't


[QUOTE]I’d be shocked if we heard anything before the players are back in town for training camp. That’s the kind of thing that you want to get done in person. I don’t think that there is legitimate concern that Gobert won’t sign.


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Favors and the 1st round pick says otherwise

[QUOTE]There’s almost certainly going to be some negotiation on Gobert’s contract and some hope that he’ll agree to something less than the full supermax that he’s eligible for, but the Jazz want Gobert to stay and Gobert wants to stay with the Jazz.


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he'd be smart to leave. Had high hopes for the new owner but the same ol shit in Utah

[QUOTE]The Jazz are bringing back the same roster that they had in the playoffs, plus Bojan Bogdanovic, who should be ready to go when the season begins, along with Favors who makes the defense better and rounds out the bench nicely.


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not sure Bojan makes them better. Defense was their issue and Favors helps but the offense gets worse with him spotting up in the corner
[QUOTE]On top of that, I think that Mike Conley had just settled into a nice groove right as the playoffs were starting and that the familiarity will benefit him this season. The Jazz made slight tweaks, but I think they’re better for it.


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Conley was better as the 2nd option but Bojan is back. They are probably better but still nothing to get excited about

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How can anyone talk about needs and not see their 6'4" starting PF or Favors spotting up in the corner?

[QUOTE]I’ll be the first to admit that I thought the Jazz would address some wing defense through the draft or free agency, but that doesn’t mean I think they went about things in the wrong way.


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Why? Brantley, Oni and Tucker play D as well as O'Neale and Ingles. They have other needs and they weren't addressed and apparently won't be

[QUOTE]By shoring up the front court, especially defensively, the Jazz now believe that with the tools they have on the wing that they can be better.


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Shored up the front court without addressing their biggest need at the 4

[QUOTE]First of all, a late 20s draft pick is going to be a bench player this season while they develop and it’s not like the Jazz had money to go out and get a starting caliber defensive wing. But if they brought in a bench wing player, probably needing to use the full MLE to get someone worthwhile, they’d still have issues in the front court when Rudy Gobert is not on the court.


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They're still going to have problems of being too small unless Favors is spotting up in the corner and that's a whole other problem!

[QUOTE]At least this way the Jazz are guaranteed to have rim protection options available to them when they play some of the lengthier teams.


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That wasn't the problem though. The problem is they played two bigs. Rudy and his backup. Everyone else is a guard of wing. It will be the same now except maybe Favors spotting up in the corner. 1980 all over yeah! :facepalm

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The Jazz plugged holes and answered questions in free agency. What is the next most pressing need to address?

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a starting PF? A new front office? Real hard to have any confidence in thinking the Jazz have fixed their problems from last year by bringing back a gunner and a problem from two years ago

[QUOTE]The most pressing need for the Jazz is a matter of opinion and perspective. There are certainly some people that think the Jazz still need to address filling spots on the roster. But, if the Jazz are done dealing on the free-agent market, which I suspect they are, the next step is getting everybody back in Salt Lake City and getting ready for the next season, which is a multi-layered process.

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3 roster spots to fill. 3 of their own guys are free agents. Their #2 pg is a Rubio wannabe on a two way and they still have no starting 4

[QUOTE]The Jazz are banking on the value of continuity and with Clarkson and Favors coming in, I think it gives them a huge advantage over other teams that are bringing in a ton of new and different players. Part of that continuity is predicated on the belief that the development of some of the low-usage players from last season have improved over the last nine months and can step into larger roles during the regular season.


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I believe some of those guys are ready. They were ready in the Denver series but instead that thought continuing to let Clarkson gun away was a better idea.

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[URL="https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1330559384070578178"]1 minute ago[/URL]
Utah Jazz All-Star guard Donovan Mitchell has agreed to a five-year, $195M designated rookie max extension, his agents Ty Sullivan and Austin Brown of [URL="https://twitter.com/caa_sports"]@CAA Sports[/URL] tell ESPN. Story soon.
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they better hope he's ready to carry the team if Favors is going to be his starting center

[URL="https://twitter.com/andyblarsen"][IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/992277654089826304/1JxJvFlG_normal.jpg[/IMG]Andy Larsen[/URL][URL="https://twitter.com/andyblarsen"]Andy Larsen[/URL] [URL="https://twitter.com/andyblarsen"]@andyblarsen[/URL]
[URL="https://twitter.com/andyblarsen/status/1330560498811633664"]4 minutes ago[/URL]
The thing to watch on Donovan’s extension is whether or not the 5th year is a player option. That had been the only negotiating point recently.

[URL="https://twitter.com/BobbyMarks42"][IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1286477383147692032/CdWDJYyh_normal.jpg[/IMG]Bobby Marks[/URL][URL="https://twitter.com/BobbyMarks42"]Bobby Marks[/URL] [URL="https://twitter.com/BobbyMarks42"]@BobbyMarks42[/URL]
[URL="https://twitter.com/BobbyMarks42/status/1330562972662583299"]1 minute ago[/URL]
Donovan Mitchell rookie max extension Contract vs. the max he could earn 20/21 $28.1 $33.7 21/22 $30.4$36.4 22/23 $32.6 $39.1 23/24 $34.8 $41.8 24/25 $37.1 $44.5 Total $163 $195.6

[URL="https://twitter.com/Sportando"][IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1256599629359206400/RF0HsT43_normal.jpg[/IMG]Emiliano Carchia[/URL][URL="https://twitter.com/Sportando"]Emiliano Carchia[/URL] [URL="https://twitter.com/Sportando"]@Sportando[/URL]
[URL="https://twitter.com/Sportando/status/1330562496869134339"]3 minutes ago[/URL]
Donovan Mitchell to sign five-year, $163M contract extension (that could increase up to $195M) [URL="https://t.co/ljVNnEFfye"]sportando.basketball/en/donovan-mit…[/URL]

[QUOTE][URL="https://twitter.com/SynergySST"][IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1311996760995303427/y5wzj9C4_normal.jpg[/IMG]Synergy Sports Tech[/URL][URL="https://twitter.com/SynergySST"]Synergy Sports Tech[/URL] [URL="https://twitter.com/SynergySST"]@SynergySST[/URL]
[URL="https://twitter.com/SynergySST/status/1330564520696311808"]1 minute ago[/URL]
Donovan Mitchell ranked 4th in the [URL="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23NBA"]#NBA[/URL] in pick and roll scoring last season while shooting an eFG% of 64% in catch and shoot situations during the regular, but his shot-making in Utah's first round series against Denver was one of the bubble's most memorable performances: [URL="https://t.co/9mrfxOiwJQ"]pic.twitter.com/9mrfxOiwJQ[/URL]
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as for defense...Let's blame Bradley!

[QUOTE][URL="https://twitter.com/NateDuncanNBA"][IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1273079491636551680/Xeaept2X_normal.jpg[/IMG]Nate Duncan[/URL][URL="https://twitter.com/NateDuncanNBA"]Nate Duncan[/URL] [URL="https://twitter.com/NateDuncanNBA"]@NateDuncanNBA[/URL]
[URL="https://twitter.com/NateDuncanNBA/status/1330565573109944320"]1 minute ago[/URL]
Can the Hawks add an extra million to their offer sheet to Bogdan Bogdanovic so he can have the same four-year, $73 million contract as Bojan Bogdanovic?
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or at least make them close enough so the Jazz can trade for the other!

[URL="https://twitter.com/johnhollinger"][IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/3683769150/4402f4baa66031982d5b215d6dd1732f_normal.jpeg[/IMG]John Hollinger[/URL][URL="https://twitter.com/johnhollinger"]John Hollinger[/URL] [URL="https://twitter.com/johnhollinger"]@johnhollinger[/URL]
[URL="https://twitter.com/johnhollinger/status/1330564929661923336"]3 minutes ago[/URL]
The five-year max extension for Mitchell is interesting because it's not totally clear they win on the contract. More on valuations for extension candidates in the class of 2017 here: [URL="https://t.co/OzpQMdKyJv"]theathletic.com/2194510/2020/1…[/URL]

[url]https://www.deseret.com/sports/2020/11/22/21583284/donovan-mitchell-reportedly-agrees-to-maximum-contract-extension[/url]

[QUOTE]ESPN’s Adrian Wojnarowski reported Sunday morning that Mitchell and the Jazz have agreed to a five-year contract extension that guarantees Mitchell will be paid $163 million and could get up to $195 million. That extra money would come if Mitchell earns All-NBA honors in the 2020-2021 season.
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32 million for one all NBA? That's a supermax I take it?

Don't see it. If Rudy leaves they suck. If Rudy stays they still don't have a starting 4 or Favors spotting up in the corner and Clarkson gunning away

[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/nba-offseason/2020/11/22/21589931/donovan-mitchell-agrees-to-a-five-year-195-million-max-extension-utah-jazz[/url]

[QUOTE][I]Donovan Mitchell gets the star contract he deserves[/I][/QUOTE]

He doesn't deserve it! They have to pay it but he's yet to dominate for a full season

[QUOTE][URL="https://www.sbnation.com/nba/players/285727/donovan-mitchell"]Mitchell[/URL] has been a star from the moment he stepped on the court in summer league years ago when he wowed crowd with his first windmill dunks.[/QUOTE]

He hasn't though. He's been a high scorer though inefficient

[QUOTE]With this extension locked in, [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/nba/teams/utah-jazz"]Utah[/URL] has the chance to build around him for the next five years and do everything they can to take advantage of his transcendent play.


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How are they going to build around him with the contracts of Bojan, Favors and Clarkson?

[QUOTE]For his career [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/nba/players/285727/donovan-mitchell"]Donovan Mitchell[/URL] has averaged 22.7 points, 4.1 rebounds and 4.0 assists. Last season [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/nba/players/285727/donovan-mitchell"]Mitchell[/URL] had a career year averaging 24 points, 4.4 rebounds and 4.3 assists. In the bubble playoffs [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/nba/players/285727/donovan-mitchell"]Mitchell[/URL] was at an MVP level of play averaging 36 points, 5 rebounds and 4.9 assists while shooting 52% from the field and 51% from three.


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MVP level loss!

[QUOTE]The sky is the limit from here on out with Mitchell, the only question is how far can he take the [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/nba/teams/utah-jazz"]Jazz[/URL]. From day one he’s quieted the doubters and there’s no reason to believe he won’t continue his rise. [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/nba/teams/utah-jazz"]Jazz[/URL] fans are very lucky to be along for the ride.



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as far as Rudy being on the team and continuing to carry the team at both ends

[QUOTE]How will the Jazz ever afford Jordan Clarkson?

Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/Karl%20Stalone%2032"]Karl Stalone 32[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/nba-offseason/2020/11/22/21589931/donovan-mitchell-agrees-to-a-five-year-195-million-max-extension-utah-jazz#533805660"]Nov 22, 2020 | 10:32 AM[/URL]

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rich owner. Pay tax. Continue mediocrity into a 5th decade!

[h=4]to kiras credit[/h]
[QUOTE]he mentions that the jazz will be forced to let gobert walk to afford all this
and its still a possibility i guess

Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/letter%20to%20the%20Corinthians"]letter to the Corinthians[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/nba-offseason/2020/11/22/21589931/donovan-mitchell-agrees-to-a-five-year-195-million-max-extension-utah-jazz#533806194"]Nov 22, 2020 | 10:47 AM[/URL]
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hello lottery!

[url]https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/30365445/donovan-mitchell-agrees-5-year-195m-designated-rookie-max-extension-utah-jazz[/url]

[QUOTE]Utah expects to have one of the best teams in the Western Conference this season, a roster that'll include the return of forward [URL="https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4257/derrick-favors"]Derrick Favors[/URL] in free agency and the re-signing of guard [URL="https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2528426/jordan-clarkson"]Jordan Clarkson[/URL].


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I don't

[QUOTE][URL="https://twitter.com/PompeyOnSixers"][IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1316820369379127296/ANrCuQgt_normal.jpg[/IMG]Keith Pompey[/URL][URL="https://twitter.com/PompeyOnSixers"]Keith Pompey[/URL] [URL="https://twitter.com/PompeyOnSixers"]@PompeyOnSixers[/URL]
[URL="https://twitter.com/PompeyOnSixers/status/1330625987944570880"]4 minutes ago[/URL]
The league source confirmed the Sixers traded Zhaire Smith to Detroit for Pistons center Tony Bradley.
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Not looking like playing time there. Looked like Detroit there was a chance anyway. Too bad

[URL="https://twitter.com/BobbyMarks42"][IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1286477383147692032/CdWDJYyh_normal.jpg[/IMG]Bobby Marks[/URL][URL="https://twitter.com/BobbyMarks42"]Bobby Marks[/URL] [URL="https://twitter.com/BobbyMarks42"]@BobbyMarks42[/URL]
[URL="https://twitter.com/BobbyMarks42/status/1330631136863776770"]1 minute ago[/URL]
The Jayson Tatum and Donovan Mitchell contracts ($195M) would be the largest rookie extension in league history if either player earns All-NBA. Ben Simmons $177.2M is currently no. 1

[QUOTE][URL="https://twitter.com/NateDuncanNBA"][IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1273079491636551680/Xeaept2X_normal.jpg[/IMG]Nate Duncan[/URL][URL="https://twitter.com/NateDuncanNBA"]Nate Duncan[/URL] [URL="https://twitter.com/NateDuncanNBA"]@NateDuncanNBA[/URL]
[URL="https://twitter.com/NateDuncanNBA/status/1330638835940659200"]about 1 hour ago[/URL]
Mitchell and Tatum getting player options is bad news long-term for bad teams seeking to retain drafted players. Trend since AD (e.g. Lillard, Towns, Booker) had been away from those in Designated Rookie Extensions.
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Here he comes NY! :(

[QUOTE][h=1]What led to Donovan Mitchell, Utah Jazz agreeing to maximum contract extension for All-Star guard[/h]


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really? :facepalm

[QUOTE]The designated rookie max deal has escalators that could bring Mitchell’s five-year total to $195.6 million. That extra money would come if Mitchell earns All-NBA honors in the 2020-21 season, the last year of his rookie-scale contract, in which he’ll be paid $5.2 million.


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that might be a bad thing. He might play more selfishly trying to put up numbers. Can he get the ball from Clarkson though?

[QUOTE]When Mitchell burst onto the NBA scene as a rookie in 2017 after being selected 13th overall in that year’s draft, it was clear as day that the Jazz had found the face of the franchise they had been looking for.


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:roll:

[QUOTE]As Mitchell’s growth on the court continued, he was cemented in the minds of the Jazz brass as the cornerstone of the team moving forward, and it became a foregone conclusion that the young star would end up with a max contract.

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You need to leave Rudy, It's ridiculous

[QUOTE]Though the Jazz didn’t need any more evidence that they had a superstar in Mitchell, the guard was selected to his first All-Star team in 2020, stepped deeper into his role as the vocal leader of the Jazz and dazzled during the playoffs.


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superstar, cornerstone, face of franchise! :lol

Knicks assistant coach Johnnie Bryant never became the magnet for Jazz superstar Donovan Mitchell, as the franchise had hoped. The 35-year-old Bryant was known as a solid player-development coach in his six years in Utah. But [URL="https://nypost.com/2020/11/22/knicks-plan-of-luring-donovan-mitchell-doesnt-work/"]a chief reason why he was wooed by the Knicks away from Utah to serve on Tom Thibodeau’s staff was to be a lure for Mitchell,[/URL] sources said.
– via [URL="https://nypost.com/2020/11/22/knicks-plan-of-luring-donovan-mitchell-doesnt-work/"]Marc Berman @ New York Post[/URL]

[URL]https://hoopshabit.com/2020/11/21/jordan-clarkson-re-signing-utah-jazz/[/URL]

[QUOTE][B]What the Jordan Clarkson re-signing means to the Utah Jazz[/B]

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besides the other 4 guys standing around watching Clarkson go 1 on 5?

[QUOTE][B]With the re-signing of Jordan Clarkson, the Utah Jazz have bought back their core from last season, giving them a good shot at a deep playoff run.[/B]



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Good shot? They still have no PF or Favors spotting up in the corner. Lack versatility, size D...

[QUOTE]The only player that Clarkson cost the Jazz was Dante Exum. While Exum was a terrific ball-handler, he was not a good shooter. In fact, he struggled to get any consistent playing time during his time with the franchise.


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several picks

[QUOTE]Where Clarkson is an upgrade over Exum is that his shooting required a defender to respect him, so that they can’t cheat off his to help on the likes of Donovan Mitchell, Bojan Bogdanovic, Mike Conley, or Joe Ingles. This allows them to provide a more efficient offense for the Jazz.


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where is he not an upgrade over Exum? Exum sucked! But so does Clarkson

[QUOTE]Clarkson averaged the third-highest points per game on the Jazz squad last season. He was only behind Mitchell and Bogdanovic who both averaged more than 20 points per game. This was a big reason the Jazz needed to re-sign him.


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Big reason they shouldn't have. Conley and Gobert need to be scoring more than him. They do it within the framework of the offense

[QUOTE]Traditionally the Jazz have always had trouble scoring, preferring to rely on their defense so they can score more than their opposition, With Clarkson on the team, this is changing. They averaged 111.3 points per game which was good enough for 18th in the NBA last season.


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Had more to do with Conley, Bojan and spacing around their bigs but hey give the guy playing 25 minutes the credit!

[QUOTE]Last season was the most efficient shooting by the Jazz from the floor since the 2008-09 season. It was the best that they had shot from deep ever. This was made possible by the Jazz having four players average 15 points per game or more.


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Was made possible by having 4 guys spacing the floor around a rim running threat

[QUOTE]With the shortened break between seasons, it is going to be incredibly important for any team hoping to compete in the playoffs that they are able to hit the ground running. Having early chemistry could impact whether you get home court-seeding in the playoffs.


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Who cares? The Jazz might tank so they don't have to face certain teams that they can't match up with because they still don't have a starting 4!

[URL="https://twitter.com/MikeVorkunov"][IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1246065175158878211/vSHqy9UJ_normal.jpg[/IMG][QUOTE]Mike Vorkunov[/URL][URL="https://twitter.com/MikeVorkunov"]Mike Vorkunov[/URL] [URL="https://twitter.com/MikeVorkunov"]@MikeVorkunov[/URL]
[URL="https://twitter.com/MikeVorkunov/status/1330905833807503363"]about 37 minutes ago[/URL]
Sometimes free agency can be a MacGuffin. It’s not actually about who a team signs but about how the front office works and acts and the choices it makes. That can be much more telling about the future than just the players they did or did not sign. [URL="https://t.co/9zuTx5oZOO"]theathletic.com/2214718/2020/1…[/URL]
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yep. Hard to get too excited about the Jazz future with the long term deals they have :cry:

[QUOTE]Hayward and BB are similar players, play the same position, and both hit FA entering their age 30 seasons. And while peak Hayward is probably better than peak BB…that peak was 4 years and a surgery ago. They were quite similar players, with BB being slightly better, the 2 years heading into free agency. Yet somehow Hayward gets nearly twice as much much (4yrs $73.1m vs 4yrs $128m). Insane!!!

Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/l3uddyh011y"]l3uddyh011y[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/2020/11/20/21587739/nba-free-agency-open-thread-2020-utah-jazz#533833172"]Nov 23, 2020 | 9:40 AM[/URL]
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I assume BB is Bojan. He's no where near the player Hayward is. Better shooter. Maybe better scorer. Hayward is much better at everything else

[URL="https://twitter.com/ChrisBHaynes"][IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1211113570303299584/86i1lS51_normal.jpg[/IMG]Chris Haynes[/URL][URL="https://twitter.com/ChrisBHaynes"]Chris Haynes[/URL] [URL="https://twitter.com/ChrisBHaynes"]@ChrisBHaynes[/URL]
[URL="https://twitter.com/ChrisBHaynes/status/1330934642984189953"]about 53 minutes ago[/URL]
Two serviceable point guards who are starting to pick up traction in the free agent market: Emmanuel Mudiay and Yogi Ferrell.

[url]https://twitter.com/E_Woodyard/status/1330922256307019781[/url]

those are much better than the original ones

[URL="https://twitter.com/Ky_Carlin"][IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1067598861403856897/2rWHBdye_normal.jpg[/IMG]Ky Carlin[/URL][QUOTE][URL="https://twitter.com/Ky_Carlin"]Ky Carlin[/URL] [URL="https://twitter.com/Ky_Carlin"]@Ky_Carlin[/URL]
[URL="https://twitter.com/Ky_Carlin/status/1330958946597793799"]about 8 minutes ago[/URL]
The Zhaire Smith-Tony Bradley trade is now official. Bradley will wear number 11 in Philadelphia. [URL="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Sixers"]#Sixers[/URL]
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guess he'll play when Embiid is load managing. Not the best spot for the kid