Tell me what makes Kobe Bryant better than Bradley Beal or Devin Booker

Kobe would be more efficient today. Whether you think the league is tougher or easier now is irrelevant, because his efficiency would increase a lot simply because he’d be replacing all those long twos with 3s. I know he wasn’t an elite 3pt shooter but even a mediocre 3pt shooter is more efficient than a very good long two shooter.

op still at it? wow

Kobe's impact metrics blow these 2 away. Nevermind the superior scoring skills and defense. Dumb thread :oldlol:

Tell me...




TELL ME.



Nada.

Zilch.

[QUOTE=ArbitraryWater;14365047]Tell me...




TELL ME.



Nada.

Zilch.[/QUOTE]

Mitchell just got outplayed by Terrance Mann and blew a 25-point 3rd quarter lead.

Booker can ball but he's not there yet.

not reading any of this. OP is an idiot

[QUOTE=ImKobe;14365185]Mitchell just got outplayed by Terrance Mann and blew a 25-point 3rd quarter lead.

Booker can ball but he's not there yet.[/QUOTE]

And Kobe got outplayed by Austin Croshere in the finals.

No one cares about your blown anecdotes.

Mitchell is a better scorer in the playoffs than Kobe and you cant do anything about it.

OP who else do you think is on Kobe's level?

Dame
Mitchell
Tatum
Trae
Morant

[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents;14365198]OP who else do you think is on Kobe's level?

Dame
Mitchell
Tatum
Trae
Morant[/QUOTE]
Colin Sexton

[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents;14365198]OP who else do you think is on Kobe's level?

Dame
Mitchell
Tatum
Trae
Morant[/QUOTE]

Booker, Beal, Mitchell.

Those 3. Bar none.

Dame only the last couple years but not close overall.

But these 3 are getting off to a better start than Kobe did

[QUOTE=ArbitraryWater;14365203]Booker, Beal, Mitchell.

Those 3. Bar none.

Dame only the last couple years but not close overall.

But these 3 are getting off to a better start than Kobe did[/QUOTE]
Dame is quite a bit better than everyone on that list besides Kobe wtf.

[QUOTE=RRR3;14365206]Dame is quite a bit better than everyone on that list besides Kobe wtf.[/QUOTE]

Right now, but he has no claim all time.

Of course Book/etc dont have yet either, but they're on pace to do the same things Kobe did if not better, for their entire careers.

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Booker's been atrocious since Game 1, not sure if this is the right time to bump this thread :lol

[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents;14374219]Booker's been atrocious since Game 1, not sure if this is the right time to bump this thread :lol[/QUOTE]

Yeah Kobe never had series‘ like this :lol

Book is playing with a broken nose and face mask too lol

[QUOTE=rawimpact;14341301]Lebron got his ass handed to him for the 2nd year out of 3 out west

And this guys got Kobe on his mind

Losing it...[/QUOTE]

Size and clearly defense

[QUOTE=ArbitraryWater;14374352]Yeah Kobe never had series‘ like this :lol

Book is playing with a broken nose and face mask too lol[/QUOTE]

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Kobe got better with the mask.

Wade broke his nose in the ASG, and Kobe beat the Heatles' ass when they met soon after.

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OP by far the smartest poster on here and it‘s not even close.

This thread is a bit refreshing. At first I thought Op suffered a serious head injury lately or something. Turns out he was always retarded.

Beal is not remotely comparable to Kobe or even Booker. He really isn't a difference maker in terms of actually winning games, just good at putting up stats and getting paid.

I’ll give you Booker for now since he’s scoring like a god, but Bradley Beal? Nah :lol You can’t actually believe that. That’s a 3ball/tpols take.

[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents;14772252]I’ll give you Booker for now since he’s scoring like a god, but Bradley Beal? Nah :lol You can’t actually believe that. That’s a 3ball/tpols take.[/QUOTE]

Beal wouldn‘t have the run Book is having right now, but basically questions like these reveal which people can critically think and which can‘t.


No one made much of a difference between Beal and Booker in 2021. In fact Beal was regarded as better by many.

The only difference is their situation.

Some can believe. Others need to „see it to believe it“. Sure, agreeing with Booker is easy now. Its undeniable.

But what difference is there in the games of Beal and Booker? Not much. Just like there isn‘t much for Kobe.

Beal could be plugged into these Phoenix teams and have similar results and Booker would be on Washington and you, SouBeachTalents, would be sitting here saying „sure I give you Beal, but Booker? :lol“


Some people have it. Others dont.


I have it. I have the foresight and the boldness to say it.

[QUOTE=tontoz;14772251]Beal is not remotely comparable to Kobe or even Booker. He really isn't a difference maker in terms of actually winning games, just good at putting up stats and getting paid.[/QUOTE]

And you‘d be saying the same for Booker if the 2 switched teams.



IQ is an interesting thing.

[QUOTE=ArbitraryWater;14772246]OP by far the smartest poster on here and it‘s not even close.[/QUOTE]

Well no other poster would bump this thread after making it. That isn't a good thing but it is unique.

[QUOTE=ArbitraryWater;14772282]Beal wouldn‘t have the run Book is having right now, but basically questions like these reveal which people can critically think and which can‘t.


No one made much of a difference between Beal and Booker in 2021. In fact Beal was regarded as better by many.

The only difference is their situation.

Some can believe. Others need to „see it to believe it“. Sure, agreeing with Booker is easy now. Its undeniable.

But what difference is there in the games of Beal and Booker? Not much. Just like there isn‘t much for Kobe.

Beal could be plugged into these Phoenix teams and have similar results and Booker would be on Washington and you, SouBeachTalents, would be sitting here saying „sure I give you Beal, but Booker? :lol“


Some people have it. Others dont.


I have it. I have the foresight and the boldness to say it.[/QUOTE]
I'll give you credit, you made a bold statement about Booker that you can actually back up right now. But I repeat, Bradley Beal is not even in the vicinity of Kobe. You'd be basing that solely off the fact he scored 30 ppg a couple of times on losing teams. The man is in the heart of his prime and has recorded 5 losing seasons in a row, you can't possibly believe prime Kobe isn't doing better than that :lol

And yeah, I wouldn't have really given much thought to a Booker/Beal comparison 2 years ago, but even by Bookers first playoff series he already played better than Beal ever did in the playoffs. Now? The comparison is laughable.

You can boast about your Booker call, but you were dead wrong about Beal.

[QUOTE=ArbitraryWater;14772284]And you‘d be saying the same for Booker if the 2 switched teams.



IQ is an interesting thing.[/QUOTE]

:roll:

If ignorance is bliss you.must be a happy guy.

Booker was dropping 22 ppg in his second season at age 20.

Beal didn't even average over 18 ppg until year 5 :oldlol: in spite of playing big minutes from day 1 on bad teams that fed him as many touches as he could handle. The last two years he's averaged 23 ppg in what is supposed to be his prime.

Wizards fans were overwhelmingly against resigning Beal. There is a reason for that.

His defense is lackadaisical most of the time, embarrassingly so at times. When he missed the all Star game one year, which is the norm for him, and the next few weeks were the Beal revenge tour. He would just ignore his teammates and the play calls to chuck away as if that would show the coaches made a mistake not picking him. In reality it showed they made the right decision.

[QUOTE=red1;14348098][B]defense size athleticism ability to make tough shots competitive nature. he had a full SEASON where he put up 35 ppg[/B].



prime kobe would easily be the best guard in the league right now and you would laugh at that comparison. especially beal.[/QUOTE]

that's why




kobe was an elite man defender and had the willpower to drop 35 for a season



that puts him clearly above booker. we wont even touch a comparison to any other guard in the league.



booker might come close to the scoring but he isnt the best man defender in the league. thats what kobe was.

if you saw that 06 scoring streak that kobe was on - guaranteed that you'd be a fan OP


thats where all the kobe fanboys came from



that godly 06 scoring streak was the greatest show in sports

[QUOTE=MrFonzworth;14341665]OP got his shit pushed in at school and consulted ISH for help because he has no friends irl:roll:[/QUOTE]

Truth hurts

I've always thought Kobe was overrated and used to get in arguments about it all the time. People here used to compare him to Jordan and later LeBron but fortunately that nonsense has died down.

But comparing Kobe to Booker and especially Beal is just trolling.

[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents;14772295]I'll give you credit, you made a bold statement about Booker that you can actually back up right now. But I repeat, Bradley Beal is not even in the vicinity of Kobe. You'd be basing that solely off the fact he scored 30 ppg a couple of times on losing teams. The man is in the heart of his prime and has recorded 5 losing seasons in a row, you can't possibly believe prime Kobe isn't doing better than that :lol

And yeah, I wouldn't have really given much thought to a Booker/Beal comparison 2 years ago, but even by Bookers first playoff series he already played better than Beal ever did in the playoffs. Now? The comparison is laughable.

You can boast about your Booker call, but you were dead wrong about Beal.[/QUOTE]

2 years ago Beal had a better scoring season than Kobe ever had. And its not even close. The last 2 years hes been injured and in and out the ineup.

Hes still that same payer. If he was healthy which he will be again, on a better squad, he would be doing more Kobe-ish things.

Same for laVine by the way.

There just isnt much more that Kobe gives a team than what those guys do.

[QUOTE=tontoz;14772317]I've always thought Kobe was overrated and used to get in arguments about it all the time. People here used to compare him to Jordan and later LeBron but fortunately that nonsense has died down.

But comparing Kobe to Booker and especially Beal is just trolling.[/QUOTE]

Booker is having the GOAT scoring run and this dumbass thinks comparing him to Kobe is trolling :oldlol:

[QUOTE=red1;14772311]that's why




kobe was an elite man defender and had the willpower to drop 35 for a season



that puts him clearly above booker. we wont even touch a comparison to any other guard in the league.



booker might come close to the scoring [B]but he isnt the best man defender in the league. thats what kobe was.[/B][/QUOTE]
Bro c'mon, no he was not :lol

[QUOTE=MrFonzworth;14341665]OP got his shit pushed in at school and consulted ISH for help because he has no friends irl:roll:[/QUOTE]

He snitched too, IIRC

[QUOTE=WhiteKyrie;14772327]He snitched too, IIRC[/QUOTE]

and he went to the nurses office to get an ice pack

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[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents;14772322]Bro c'mon, no he was not :lol[/QUOTE]

the gap between kobe and booker and beal's defense is so big that compared to them he is practically the best defender in the league


kobe was an elite perimeter defender and booker and beal are not

[QUOTE=ArbitraryWater;14772320][B]2 years ago Beal had a better scoring season than Kobe ever had.[/B] And its not even close. The last 2 years hes been injured and in and out the ineup.

Hes still that same payer. If he was healthy which he will be again, on a better squad, he would be doing more Kobe-ish things.

Same for laVine by the way.

There just isnt much more that Kobe gives a team than what those guys do.[/QUOTE]
What are you basing the bolded off of, efficiency? I'm way too lazy to do the research, but I bet Kobe's efficiency in '03/'06/'07 relative to era was at worst comparable to Beal's.

And as ridiculous as Beal is, Zach LaVine is straight up 3ball level shit posting. I'd like to see you construct an argument where LaVine is comparable to Kobe.

I think Kobe is one of the most overrated players in league history, but you legitimately don't even seem to think he was an ATG.

[QUOTE=red1;14772330]the gap between kobe and booker and beal's defense is so big that compared to them he is practically the best defender in the league


kobe was an elite perimeter defender and booker and beal are not[/QUOTE]


kobe notoriousy stopped giving af on defense after 02 or so

Phil Jackson said so himself

by 2010 he was absolutey maiing it in

his 2013 defense is probably the worst perimeter defense in history

[QUOTE=ArbitraryWater;14772321]Booker is having the GOAT scoring run and this dumbass things comparing him to Kobe is trolling :oldlol:[/QUOTE]


You made this thread in 2021 dumbass :oldlol:

And booker's scoring run, while epic no doubt, is 9 games long. Two words: sample size

It was a lot tougher to score in Kobe's era. He has two scoring titles averaging 31+ and 5 playoff runs averaging 30+.

I always found him hard to watch at times because he forced up so many long, contested jumpers. However his career TS is only slightly worse than booker's in a much tougher era on much higher volume.

I think you have a drinking problem.







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