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“I always go back to (John) Stockton and (Karl) Malone,” coach Gregg Popovich said. “Jerry (Sloan) ran the same play for 20 years, they just ran it really well, and that’s what we want to do. We want to play defense a certain way, offense very simply, but still taking advantage of everybody’s abilities. [URL="https://theathletic.com/2705863/2021/07/13/team-usa-basketball-olympics-argentina/?source=rss"]“It was better,” Popovich also said. “Bit by bit, every day I hope.”[/URL]
– via [URL="https://theathletic.com/2705863/2021/07/13/team-usa-basketball-olympics-argentina/?source=rss"]Joe Vardon @ The Athletic[/URL]
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Re: 2021 Off-Season. Another short one
[URL]https://kslsports.com/463285/utah-jazz-draft-prospect-jaden-springer/[/URL]
sounds like a possibility. Need more of a 1 though I'd say
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[QUOTE]While the 30th pick in the draft is not the spot you think about for picking an All-Star-caliber player, it is a spot where you can get a serviceable and skilled role player who is ready to make an impact right away.
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not unless he went to Duke
[QUOTE]There are some things that are going to be very black and white for the Jazz this offseason. [URL="https://www.deseret.com/2021/7/9/22568084/utah-jazz-insiders-newsletter-why-need-mike-conley-nba-draft"]Re-signing Conley is an easy decision[/URL] and if the Jazz can make a deal there, they will. Other decisions though, won’t be so easy for the Jazz.
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it's not easy because of his injuries and the price but hard to imagine them getting better without him
[QUOTE][URL="https://www.deseret.com/2019/10/20/20922667/georges-niangs-nba-journey"]Georges Niang[/URL] is a free agent. Niang has been a good player but he wasn’t very helpful during the playoffs. Has he done enough to stay on this roster? [URL="https://www.deseret.com/sports/2020/12/14/22174188/georges-niang-and-miye-oni-making-strides-on-the-defensive-end-for-the-utah-jazz-preseason"]Miye Oni[/URL] seems like he could be a reliable defender if he could limit his fouls, but he also needs to develop a more reliable shot.
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Niang at the right price. He played D anyway as did Oni. They will get better. Clarkson, Favors and Hughes are the first guys to look at. Get rid of them and than depending on what the roster looks like after that you make other choices
[QUOTE]What about players like [URL="https://www.deseret.com/sports/2020/11/25/21718627/derrick-favors-utah-jazz-nba-trade-free-agency-new-orleans-pelicans-return-feels-like-home"]Derrick Favors[/URL] and [URL="https://www.deseret.com/sports/2021/1/8/22220611/joe-ingles-ironman-streak-snapped-after-more-than-5-years"]Joe Ingles[/URL]? Those could potentially be players that the Jazz would be willing to deal if it meant getting some younger players who offer more versatility to the roster. That’s definitely not what a lot of Jazz fans want to hear, but if it means that this team can get over that second-round hump in the postseason, it would be worth it.
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doubt they go anywhere. Ingles probably due for an extension if anything
[QUOTE]Finally, there is the vast amount of developing players or nonrotational players that the Jazz need to decide what to do with. Do they want to put their faith in [URL="https://www.deseret.com/sports/2020/8/22/21396275/how-rookie-juwan-morgan-went-from-undrafted-free-agent-to-playoff-contributor-for-the-utah-jazz"]Juwan Morgan[/URL] as a small-ball five, or cut ties? Do they want to give [URL="https://www.deseret.com/2021/4/14/22383642/despite-limited-opportunities-utah-jazz-two-way-player-jarrell-brantley-okc-thunder-nba-defense"]Jarrell Brantley[/URL] a minimum contract, or let him go elsewhere to continue his NBA career?
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they need to elsewhere since the coach won't play them. They can play
[QUOTE]The Jazz are at a point where they can’t afford to use so many roster spots on empty players like Matt Thomas and Ersan Ilyasova, or players that might amount to something in three, four or five years. If they decide to keep some of their low-minute players, they need to figure out a way to get them meaningful minutes through the regular season so that they are able to help when needed in the playoffs.
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Ersan was one of their best players and should have been on the floor. Thomas might have helped too. Who knows? This is all on the coach who remains
[QUOTE]The Jazz’s needs are clear. The team needs depth at the wing position, it needs a versatile front court and it needs a backup point guard. The mechanisms for the Jazz to acquire players are clear. They can draft, use the taxpayer mid-level exception, sign players to minimum contracts or make deals with other teams.
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the needs have been clear and yet there is still no PF that Snyder will play. They have a backup pg
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Re: 2021 Off-Season. Another short one
[url]https://www.deseret.com/2021/7/13/22565729/utah-jazz-face-hard-questions-heading-into-draft-free-agency-derrick-favors-joe-ingles-mike-conley[/url]
[QUOTE][B]Why good is not good enough: Jazz face hard questions heading into draft, free agency[/B]
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we'll see. If Clarjson, Favors and Highes remain it's the same old Jazz regardless of new GM and owner. Same coach already and he may be the biggest problem
[QUOTE]Much has been proven about this Jazz team. The group that is shepherded by [URL="https://www.deseret.com/sports/2020/11/22/21583284/donovan-mitchell-reportedly-agrees-to-maximum-contract-extension"]Donovan Mitchell [/URL]and [URL="https://www.deseret.com/sports/2020/12/20/22191422/rudy-gobert-utah-jazz-quin-snyder-donovan-mitchell-contract-extension-nba-news"]Rudy Gobert[/URL] is good enough to be nearly unstoppable in the regular season, they have the top-end talent to lead a team. But first- and second-round playoff losses aren’t going to cut it anymore.
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apparently they are since the coach who wouldn't try anything remains
[QUOTE]The Jazz’s biggest problems during the playoffs were lack of depth and lack of versatility.
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actually we don't know that since the coach wouldn't try anyone else
[QUOTE]The Jazz are hamstrung by only being able to play one type of basketball — a traditional five-man lineup. When faced with small-ball lineups or opponents that can play five-out with a shooting big, it’s no secret the Jazz don’t fare very well.
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Ersan, Morgan, Brabtley, Forrest, Thomas...
[QUOTE]Gobert is an exceptional center and has been honored as the [URL="https://www.deseret.com/2021/6/9/22527073/utah-jazz-center-rudy-gobert-wins-third-nba-defensive-player-of-the-year-award"]Defensive Player of the Year three times[/URL], including last season. Saying that the Jazz need a small-ball five, or a way to make their rotation more versatile, is not meant to take away from what Gobert can do. It is, however, a way for the Jazz to humble themselves and admit their shortcomings.
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need a starting PF that can protect the rim if Gobert has to cover the perimeter and play center if he goes to the bench. Need a coach that will play him first though
[QUOTE]The Jazz also have a depth problem. The team patted itself on the back many times throughout the regular season when a bench player would have a big scoring night for the team and credited depth as a strength, but the truth is that the Jazz’s rotation rarely went further than nine players. That means there were eight roster spots taken up by players who rarely played meaningful minutes, or didn’t play meaningful minutes at all.
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that's on Snyder
[QUOTE]Without a reliable backup point guard, the injuries to Conley and Mitchell were amplified. Without more versatile wing defenders, the Jazz were overpowered from the perimeter and had to make tough choices on coverages. And finally, without a small-ball five, the Jazz’s front court was targeted and worn ragged in switches that were advantageous for the Clippers.
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Ingles is fine as a backup. Needed a 3rd guy and Forrest can't shoot. Mitchell and Clarkson don't defend and COTY doesn't care
[QUOTE]Meanwhile, Los Angeles fielded multiple lineups, had options beyond nine players and were able to advance to the Western Conference finals because they had options and depth.
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again they had a coach that tried everything vs a coach that tried nothing
[QUOTE]When [URL="https://www.deseret.com/2021/6/16/22536598/kawhi-leonard-injury-update-leonard-reportedly-expected-to-miss-game-5-utah-jazz-la-clippers-nba"]Kawhi Leonard went out with an injury[/URL], Terance Mann stepped into the starting lineup. The Clippers had Reggie Jackson and Rajon Rondo and Patrick Beverley to rotate through depending who would be better against the matchup. They also had Ivica Zubac for a traditional center, DeMarcus Cousins who could stretch the floor a little, and Nicolas Batum and Marcus Morris to play small ball. The Clippers also had their stars and role players who could shoot and defend.
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is Mann better than Ersan. Morgan, Brantley, Forrest and Thomas? Certainly take any of them over Cousins
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[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/nba-draft/2021/7/14/22566365/2021-nba-draft-coverage-chris-duarte-oregon[/url]
[QUOTE]Wingspan: 6’ 7”[/QUOTE]
not what the Wizard liked
[QUOTE]As a momentum-shifting playmaker in Dana Altman’s 2-3 zone defense, Duarte was excellent. He’s less effective in man concepts, particularly in isolation and at the point of attack. He’s susceptible to a quick first step and allows dribble penetration. He tends to ball watch, overplays passing lanes, and can be overly aggressive on closeouts. These defensive habits often put him out of position, forcing his teammates to scramble, rotate, and recover.
Duarte struggles as a playmaker and was a bit of a turnover machine in college. His assist-to-turnover ratio of 1.16:1 is well below average for a guard, and he often telegraphed his passes to the corner. Duarte struggles to deliver accurate passes in a few key areas for guards - the pass to the big out of pick and roll, the “skip” pass to the far corner, and the lob.
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not what they need
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Re: 2021 Off-Season. Another short one
[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/nba-draft/2021/7/13/22567140/utah-jazz-2021-nba-draft-jt-thor-auburn[/url]
[QUOTE]Age (on draft day): 18.88
School: Auburn
Height (w/out shoes): 6’8.5”
Height (w/shoes): 6’9.25”
Wingspan: 7’3.25”
Standing Reach: 9’2”
Weight: 203 lbs
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Wizard like length
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Re: 2021 Off-Season. Another short one
[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/7/13/22574202/2021-utah-jazz-post-mortem-the-perils-of-being-very-good-not-great-nba-offseason-trade-draft[/url]
[QUOTE]We’ve seen a similar story unfold over the past three years in the playoffs: Last year in the bubble we saw the Jazz give up a 3-1 lead to the Nuggets, who then went on to get rocked in 5 by the eventual champion Lakers; the year before we saw the Jazz lose in 5 to the Rockets, who would go on to lead a competitive series against the Warriors until they lost the series clincher with Kevin Durant out with an injury. And on and on it goes. In each of those series, our regular-season defensive strength surrounding Rudy Gobert ended up becoming a liability. And in each of those series, we lacked star power to go punch for punch. In short— we just weren’t good enough.
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What we've saw the past two years is a coach unwilling to try anything new. 3 years ago their offense sucled
[QUOTE]The quickest way to get better—get already good players to come play for you. The Jazz have demonstrated a small amount of success in luring mid-level free agents to Salt Lake City, however, Utah has not—and will likely not for the foreseeable future be a free agent destination—although I’d be ecstatic for my Silicon Slopes bros to prove me wrong. Whereas we’ve experienced moderate success with signing Bojan Bogdanovic or Jordan Clarkson to favorable deals, the Jazz have never in history been able to sign an All-NBA talent. For goodness’ sake, [URL="https://clutchpoints.com/5-best-free-agent-signings-utah-jazz-history/"]a list of the best five Jazz FA signings[/URL] is topped by Carlos Boozer and Mehmet Okur!
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the fact that you think those are favorable deals says it all
[QUOTE]Hill and Conley were and have been great Jazz-men, however, they also led us to the aforementioned playoff exits and disappointments.
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they led? :facepalm
[QUOTE]The point is that bottoming out in the draft in subsequent years benefits teams—especially those in smaller markets—in three distinct ways: (1) the potential of landing a superstar, (2) getting talented upward-trending players on a discount relative to their value, and (3) building a team with players on roughly the same schedule developmentally.
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unfortunately Gobert emerged and ruined the grand plan not that the Wizard had much success drafting high
[QUOTE]Maybe the departure of Dennis Lindsey solves some of those problems facing the Jazz—it probably doesn’t. The tradeable asset chest is wanting—ironically again because we’ve been too good to have good young players to trade or desirable future draft picks. Our only hope is that we somehow nail the 30th pick or get a steal in free agency.
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maybe Snyder will play his bench guys since he's not trying to get the GM fired anymore?
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[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/nba-draft/2021/7/12/22560156/2021-nba-draft-coverage-trendon-watford[/url]
[QUOTE]Height: 6’ 7.5”
Weight 237 lbs
Wingspan: 7’ 2.25”
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got the length
need a 1
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[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/nba-draft/2021/7/12/22561347/2021-nba-draft-coverage-trey-murphy-iii[/url]
[QUOTE]Physical: 21 years old (turns 22 next June), 6’9” with a 7’0” wingspan and 8’9.5” standing reach, 206 pounds at the combine[/QUOTE]
not elite wingspan
need a 1
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[URL="https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2945899-nba-league-insiders-expect-a-flurry-of-sign-and-trades-this-summer"]Brooklyn has maintained an interest in Tucker dating back to the Nets’ James Harden trade talks. Miami also discussed adding Tucker in variations of the Heat’s negotiations for Victor Oladipo, sources said.[/URL] Add the Lakers, Warriors, Nuggets and Jazz as teams that could vie for Tucker’s services too. Minnesota, led of course by former Rockets executive Gersson Rosas, has coveted Tucker dating back to the 2020 draft, sources said, and the Wolves have continued searching for front court improvements.
– via [URL="https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2945899-nba-league-insiders-expect-a-flurry-of-sign-and-trades-this-summer"]Jake Fischer @ Bleacher Report[/URL]
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[QUOTE] [URL="https://sportando.basketball/en/virtus-bologna-reportedly-in-advanced-talks-with-ekpe-udoh/"]Virtus Bologna is in advanced talks with Ekpe Udoh[/URL] as reported by the Bologna’s newspaper this morning. The Italian Champions would have passed Partizan and Zeljko Obradovic in the race to the Nigerian big man and the agreement would be close.
– via [URL="https://sportando.basketball/en/virtus-bologna-reportedly-in-advanced-talks-with-ekpe-udoh/"]Sportando[/URL]
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He'd be better than Favors
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[url]https://www.ksl.com/article/50204520/patrick-kinahan-stereotypes-continue-to-hover-over-jazz[/url]
[QUOTE]"The fact that they put on a happy face for him, but their true feelings come out when African Americans come there to play is what I think is the issue and the problem that will ultimately let him say, 'You know what, I'm done here. Thank you, get me out of here.'"
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see ya!
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[url]https://kslsports.com/463410/utah-jazz-nba-draft-prospect-jt-thor/[/url]
[QUOTE]Where the Jazz proved to have a lack of versatile two-way players, Thor is the type of player that could provide added defensive coverage alongside Rudy Gobert while still complimenting the team’s offense as a potential floor spacer.
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it's what they need but don't expect it from a rookie
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Re: 2021 Off-Season. Another short one
[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/the-downbeat-latest-jazz-news/2021/7/14/22577228/joe-ingles-jordan-clarkson-utah-jazz-bench-6th-man-problem[/url]
[QUOTE]He improved even more with extra time in Quin Snyder’s system, to the tune of a career best 18.4 points per game and the 2021 6th Man of the Year Award. When he’s on, there’s almost nothing you can do to stop him.
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let him stop himself most nights
[QUOTE]But should Joe Ingles and Jordan Clarkson really be coming off the same bench?
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no. Clarkson needs to go. Put Bojan on the bench
[QUOTE] So, the team can’t shoot when Clarkson and Ingles share the floor, we can’t defend when Clarkson and Mitchell share the floor (based on slcdunk article earlier this year) and our team +/- is absolutely terrible for some reason [URL="https://www.nba.com/stats/lineups/traditional/?Season=2020-21&SeasonType=Playoffs&TeamID=1610612762&GroupQuantity=2&CF=GROUP_NAME*E*J.%20Clarkson&sort=PLUS_MINUS&dir=1"]when Clarkson and O’Neale share the floor[/URL]. That’s a problem for Quinn that I don’t envy. Not a lot of lineups left.
Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/ThatFilthyApe"]ThatFilthyApe[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/the-downbeat-latest-jazz-news/2021/7/14/22577228/joe-ingles-jordan-clarkson-utah-jazz-bench-6th-man-problem#542438251"]Jul 14, 2021 | 1:36 PM[/URL]
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bye bye Clarkson is what that says
[QUOTE]I remember how bad our bench used to be. Part of the problem was Bradley’s defense though. Maybe Clarkson would be more efficient if he wasn’t forced to be the focus on offense all the time. The other reason it might make sense to move Clarkson – his stock is super high right now. You know other GMs will be asking about him.
I don’t think I would make such a big change for next year, but if we could swap Clarkson for a guy who can break down a defense [I]and pass the ball sometimes[/I], maybe it would make sense.
Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/Big_B"]Big_B[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/the-downbeat-latest-jazz-news/2021/7/14/22577228/joe-ingles-jordan-clarkson-utah-jazz-bench-6th-man-problem#542438438"]Jul 14, 2021 | 1:42 PM[/URL]
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a lot of the reasons the bench was bad. Bradley was hardly the sole blame.
[QUOTE] [INDENT]. . .we reeeaaaally need someone who could create his own shot because we have too many unathletic guys who can’t create their own shot without running a system.[/INDENT]So, why not just run the system?
Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/Kira%20Argonova"]Kira Argonova[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/the-downbeat-latest-jazz-news/2021/7/14/22577228/joe-ingles-jordan-clarkson-utah-jazz-bench-6th-man-problem#542439990"]Jul 14, 2021 | 2:34 PM[/URL]
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exactly
[QUOTE][h=4]When they ran the system, the system worked well.[/h] The problem was players wanting to be a hero and not running the system.
The issue with being low on the shot clock and having to get a shot off is real, but much rarer than fans seem to think. Usually, when the Jazz are forced to take a last-second shot, it’s because DM or Clarkson got the ball with eight seconds left and then dribbled for seven seconds before being "forced" to take a last-second shot. It is very rare that they get the ball with only a couple of seconds left.
Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/Kira%20Argonova"]Kira Argonova[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/the-downbeat-latest-jazz-news/2021/7/14/22577228/joe-ingles-jordan-clarkson-utah-jazz-bench-6th-man-problem#542453666"]Jul 15, 2021 | 7:35 AM[/URL]
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yep
[QUOTE] I have strongly argued in the past that trading for Love would be insane, but the math just changed dramatically. Instead of having to pay him $30m/year, he would come at a tiny fraction of the cost.
He’d have to be a center now because he is too slow to guard the perimeter. What about bringing him in as a backup to Rudy? The most we could offer would be the luxury MLE (I think $5.9m). We also have the BAE ($2.3m?) or vet’s minimum.
He wouldn’t protect the paint like Favors, but he can shoot.
Would he accept that role and salary to be on a contender? Would we want him? What would we do with Favs?
Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/Kira%20Argonova"]Kira Argonova[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/the-downbeat-latest-jazz-news/2021/7/14/22577228/joe-ingles-jordan-clarkson-utah-jazz-bench-6th-man-problem#542440917"]Jul 14, 2021 | 3:09 PM[/URL]
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not the ideal fit
[QUOTE][h=4]IF we were going to change our backup center, we want a great defender, not a great shooter.[/h] If defense is a weakness, why bring in Love? Nice to have a big name player I guess, but I don’t think he provides more than Ersan, does he? Ersan at least hustles on D, and has a shot at guarding 4s. If we need a center because of foul trouble or injuries, give Dok a try.
Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/Big_B"]Big_B[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/the-downbeat-latest-jazz-news/2021/7/14/22577228/joe-ingles-jordan-clarkson-utah-jazz-bench-6th-man-problem#542442616"]Jul 14, 2021 | 4:26 PM[/URL]
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Need a starting 4 that can play 5. Dok wasn't ready
[QUOTE]I’m not even sure Kuzma would make UTA a better team but he could easily play PF, allowing Bojan to play SF, O’Neale SG, and DM PG, which are more natural positions for each player.
Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/Palmetto%20Bug"]Palmetto Bug[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/the-downbeat-latest-jazz-news/2021/7/14/22577228/joe-ingles-jordan-clarkson-utah-jazz-bench-6th-man-problem#542442276"]Jul 14, 2021 | 4:09 PM[/URL]
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:facepalm
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[url]https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/who-said-small-ball-is-the-only-way-to-win-a-title/?addata=espn:nba:teams[/url]
[QUOTE]At the same time, the Suns found [URL="https://www.nba.com/stats/team/1610612756/lineups-traditional/?Season=2020-21&SeasonType=Playoffs&sort=PLUS_MINUS&dir=1&PerMode=Totals&DateFrom=07%2F11%2F2021"]their most successful lineup[/URL] in Game 3 without a center on the floor. Early in the third quarter, Cam Johnson replaced Ayton, and the Suns [URL="https://www.nba.com/game/phx-vs-mil-0042000403/play-by-play"]cut 10 points off Milwaukee’s lead over the following minutes[/URL]. But the Bucks were also small at the time, and when Bobby Portis and Lopez rejoined the game, the Bucks pushed their lead back to double digits, forcing the Suns to use Frank Kaminsky as a backup center rather than continue their small-ball experiment. Phoenix, like Milwaukee, has been best when big.
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it's what COTY should have been trying with Ersan/Morgan/Brantley the past two seasons
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Re: 2021 Off-Season. Another short one
Jake Fischer: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]The Dallas Mavericks are targeting Fenerbahce head coach Igor Kokoskov to join Jason Kidd’s coaching staff, per league sources. Kokoskov won EuroBasket 2017 with Luka Doncic as the Slovenian national team head coach[/URL].
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/JakeLFischer"]Twitter JakeLFischer[/URL]
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Re: 2021 Off-Season. Another short one
Collyn Taylor: South Carolina guard [URL="http://twitter.com/collyntaylor/status/1415650625883344897"]AJ Lawson will work out today for the Orlando Magic[/URL]. He’s already worked out for Cleveland, Boston, Utah, Atlanta, Charlotte, Sacramento and San Antonio.
– via [URL="http://twitter.com/collyntaylor/status/1415650625883344897"]Twitter[/URL]
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Re: 2021 Off-Season. Another short one
Tony Jones: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]One potential draft name that I’m hearing for the Jazz (this does not mean the Jazz will draft him, just that the Jazz like him) Joel Ayayi[/URL]
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/Tjonesonthenba"]Twitter Tjonesonthenba[/URL]
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Re: 2021 Off-Season. Another short one
[url]https://kslsports.com/463498/utah-jazz-nba-draft-prospect-sharife-cooper/[/url]
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First and foremost, at 6’0 and 160 lbs, he may simply be too small to compete full time in the NBA. There aren’t many players with that physical profile that succeed in the league, and Cooper could be the next causality in a long time of super talented undersized players.
Along those lines, all the concerns that come with undersized players showed up during Cooper’s 12 games at Auburn. Due to his size, he was an ineffective defender from both an effort and effectiveness standpoint. Bigger guards will easily bully him at the next level, even if he puts in more effort than he did in college.
[INDENT] Slow-motion look at Sharife Cooper’s shooting mechanics. [URL="https://t.co/ce2X6Q3MGD"]pic.twitter.com/ce2X6Q3MGD[/URL]
— Mike Schmitz (@Mike_Schmitz) [URL="https://twitter.com/Mike_Schmitz/status/1408913219305959424?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw"]June 26, 2021[/URL]
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Furthermore, his inefficiency as a shooter both finishing at the rim and from the three-point line are a red flag. Despite scoring more than 20 points per game, he had some of the poorest shooting percentages in college basketball.
Shooting below 40 percent from the floor and 23 percent are shockingly low, and scoring in the NBA won’t get easier against bigger defenders with a deeper three-point line.
There is some hope that this shot could improve with an overhaul to his flat-footed jumper and with more spacing in the NBA, but neither is a guarantee and without better efficiency, it will be hard for him to earn a spot on in a rotation.
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Re: 2021 Off-Season. Another short one
[url]https://kslsports.com/463436/unrivaled-utah-jazz-need-to-go-big-this-offseason-to-acquire-a-superstar/[/url]
[QUOTE]Getting either of those two would be tough due to the contract and amount of money they would eat up for the salary cap and beyond into the luxury tax. Landing either Simmons or Lillard would be better than paying that penalty for Conley. No offense to Mike Conley, but those other two would be a bigger boon and make the Jazz a heavy favorite to win the NBA title next year.
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Simmons makes no sense unless Rudy is being moved. Lillard doesn't make much sense either unless Mitchell is being moved!
[QUOTE]“The thing that’s interesting now is that Ben Simmons name is being discussed about getting Damian Lillard out of Portland. Damian Lillard doesn’t want to go play in Philadelphia,” Kirry said. “He said that the Lakers and Utah place that would interest him. Why can’t the Jazz jump on that? What would the Jazz have to give up to be able to get Damian Lillard here? Paying a luxury tax for Mike Conley seems like a Fool’s error compared to what you could be trying to get with Damian Lillard. Come into town now.
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Conley plays D and can play off the ball. Lillard is a better version of Mitchell
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Re: 2021 Off-Season. Another short one
[url]https://kslsports.com/463481/utah-jazz-mock-nba-draft-round-up-2-0/[/url]
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Re: 2021 Off-Season. Another short one
[url]https://www.deseret.com/2021/7/15/22575696/utah-jazz-what-does-kawhi-leonard-injury-mean-for-jazz-nba-draft-free-agency[/url]
[QUOTE]Batum would give the Jazz a great small-ball five option who can stretch the floor and knock down shots reliably. Would the Jazz be willing to use part or all of the taxpayer mid-level exception on Batum if it comes to it?
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had that option this year and COTY refused to play any of the 3 options
[QUOTE]Gobert has offensive limitations, there’s no secret there. But the Jazz still have the best rim protector in the game and that makes him incredibly valuable. You don’t want to go giving up one of the pieces that makes this team great, just to see how something else would work.
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the piece that makes them even good. Without him it's lottery time again
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Re: 2021 Off-Season. Another short one
[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/nba-draft/2021/7/15/22570770/2021-nba-draft-coverage-jeremiah-robinson-earl-villanova[/url]
[QUOTE]Height: 6’ 7.75”
Weight 242 lbs
Wingspan: 6’ 9.75”
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non Wizard length
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Re: 2021 Off-Season. Another short one
[QUOTE]Height W/O Shoes: 6’7.25”
Height W/ Shoes: 6’8.5”
Weight 206.4 lbs.
Wingspan: 7’0.25”
PTS: 9.3
RBS: 6.2
BLK: 1.0
[h=1][B]NBA fit[/B][/h] As a 6’8” player with long arms and elite jumping ability, Greg Brown’s natural position seems to be the 4, but he might be able to slot in as a small-ball 5[/QUOTE]
not great length for a 4 or 5
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Re: 2021 Off-Season. Another short one
[url]https://kslsports.com/463531/what-would-a-damian-lillard-trade-look-like/[/url]
[QUOTE]The Jazz would have two potential avenues for acquiring Lillard, starting with a sign and trade with Mike Conley. Depending on Conley’s next contract, the Jazz could send the veteran guard along with one of the team’s top rotation players not named Rudy Gobert or Donovan Mitchell, plus whatever young players the Blazers wanted, with as many as three future first-round draft picks through the year 2027.
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Mitchell would be the only way to get him. Get it done!
[QUOTE]That would give Portland a win-now option in Conley coming off his first All-Star appearance, an above-average role player in any one of the Jazz additional pieces, and reasonable draft capital down the line.
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Doubt Portland wants to win if they trade him. Tank
[QUOTE]If the Jazz were deadset on acquiring Lillard at all costs, they could create a deal centered around Gobert and future picks. However, Gobert was arguably the Jazz best player during the regular season and led the roster to the best record in the NBA while Lillard’s Blazers finished sixth in the overall standings.
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there's no argument. Conley was their 2nd best player. He's not an ideal fit with Lillard but either is Mitchell
[QUOTE]Without Gobert on the roster, the Jazz would have a roster heavily weighted towards the backcourt with no real options to balance it out with a lack of future draft picks. There’s a significant risk that both rosters would be worse in a Lillard for Gobert trade.
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Portland would still be good with Gobert and McCollum and whoever they got for Nurkic. Jazz would suck
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Re: 2021 Off-Season. Another short one
[url]https://www.deseret.com/2021/7/16/22579289/utah-jazz-insiders-first-two-days-nba-free-agency-draft-mike-conley[/url]
[QUOTE]They can certainly find some length and wing depth on the free agent market and sign players to minimum contracts without having to trade away their rotational players, but they might choose to trade away someone like Joe Ingles in order to add a player or two who are younger and bring more versatility.
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doubt Ingles is going anywhere. Clarkson/Favors/Hughes
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Re: 2021 Off-Season. Another short one
[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/nba-draft/2021/7/16/22578481/2021-nba-draft-coverage-tre-mann-utah-jazz-prospect-university-of-florida[/url]
[QUOTE]Standing at 6’ 4.25” tall and a 6’ 4.00” wingspan, many were disappointed with his frame. Florida listed the guard at 6’ 5.00” and to have a negative length score left many disappointed.
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non Wizard approved wingspan
[QUOTE]Furthermore, with Mike Conley’s free agency, Joe Ingles’ advancing age, and an unimpressive Trent Forrest experiment, the Jazz need a more long-term, inexpensive option at the PG spot.
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Forrest was impressive other than his shot
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Re: 2021 Off-Season. Another short one
[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/nba-draft/2021/7/16/22566388/2021-nba-draft-coverage-joel-ayayi-gonzaga[/url]
[QUOTE]Physical: 21 years old (turns 22 next March), 6’5” with a 6’7.5” wingspan and 8’5” standing reach, 180 pounds
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average wingspan
[QUOTE]Watching film of Joel, the biggest thing I noticed was his excellent decision making off of dribble hand offs, in transition, and in the pick and roll, which are all attributes that Quin Snyder prizes heavily in his ball-handlers. I seem him as a mix of Jordan Clarkson and Joe Ingles without as much of either’s ball-handling or fluid shot-making form, with more rebounding capability. While a lot of his threes came off of post-ups in college, something he will rarely see in Utah, his movement without the ball is great, so that transition would likely be an easy one for him. His game reminds me of a more skilled-passing Josh Hart or Donte DiVincenzo, with slightly less athleticism than either, or a better rebounding, poorer shooting Desmond Bane. With the Jazz not picking Bane last draft and kicking themselves for it, Joel Ayayi may be the closest similar player in this draft, while offering a younger successor to Joe Ingles and Jordan Clarkson. Plus, his transition to Utah would be greatly aided by his compatriot, Rudy Gobert, and Gonzaga legend, John Stockton. Though Ayayi is currently a weaker defender than all of the aforementioned players (other than maybe Jordan Clarkson), nabbing an immediate contributor with weaknesses that the Jazz’s style of play can help to cover up would not be a bad move, whether that’s at the 30th pick or trading down a bit.
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needed a center. Bane isn't one :facepalm
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Re: 2021 Off-Season. Another short one
[url]https://thejnotes.com/2021/07/18/utah-jazz-nba-draft-outlook-2-possible/[/url]
[QUOTE]Without trading up at the July 29 NBA Draft, the Utah Jazz brass isn’t likely to land a game-changer. Still, picking at No. 30 overall, [URL="https://thejnotes.com/"]the Jazzmen[/URL] have a shot at snagging an instant addition to the rotation.
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highly unlikely if you've been paying attention especially the past two years
[QUOTE]A few needs stand out, namely a lockdown perimeter defender plus a big who could sub in for Rudy Gobert to mix things up as a skilled post scorer. Fortunately, several fellas fitting one of those descriptions might be available at the end of the first round.
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now they need a post scorer! :lol
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Re: 2021 Off-Season. Another short one
[url]https://thejnotes.com/2021/07/18/utah-jazz-2-things-cannot-afford-lose/3/[/url]
[QUOTE]Indeed, instead of the organization concocting an unnecessary overhaul, Quin Snyder and his players could own their past, vowing together not to allow history to repeat itself.
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good luck with that. That doesn't fix the problems they have with the head coach and most of the team not playing D and two guys that don't share the ball
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Re: 2021 Off-Season. Another short one
Orazio Cauchi: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Virtus Bologna officially announced that Ekpe Udoh has signed a two-year deal with the club.[/URL] Udoh recently played in China.
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/paxer89"]Twitter paxer89[/URL]
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Re: 2021 Off-Season. Another short one
Dylan Hernandez: [URL="http://twitter.com/dylanohernandez/status/1416662076362149888"]Japan’s basketball team upset Rudy Gobert and France in something called the SoftBank Cup. Rui Hachimura with 19 points in 29 minutes for Japan,[/URL] which will share a first-round group at the Olympics with Spain, Slovenia and Argentina.
– via [URL="http://twitter.com/dylanohernandez/status/1416662076362149888"]Twitter[/URL]
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Re: 2021 Off-Season. Another short one
[QUOTE] However, sources suggested that [URL="https://www.actionnetwork.com/nba/nba-free-agency-draft-rumors-bulls-big-spenders"]Bojan Bogdanovic and Joe Ingles were also bandied about as available if the Jazz could get a significant upgrade,[/URL] which would be a major shakeup for the team, especially with Mike Conley headed to unrestricted free agency this summer.
– via [URL="https://www.actionnetwork.com/nba/nba-free-agency-draft-rumors-bulls-big-spenders"]Matt Moore @ Action Network[/URL]
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Clarkson makes the most sense to me. Someone might even be dumb enough to want the 6yh man of the year too!
[QUOTE] Multiple league sources indicated this week that the Jazz were open to trade discussions. [URL="https://www.actionnetwork.com/nba/nba-free-agency-draft-rumors-bulls-big-spenders"]The consensus is that Derrick Favors is not only available, but Utah is eager to move him to clear his roughly $20 million in remaining salary[/URL] (including a $10 million player option for 2022-23).
– via [URL="https://www.actionnetwork.com/nba/nba-free-agency-draft-rumors-bulls-big-spenders"]Matt Moore @ Action Network[/URL]
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Good luck with that one. What will you have to throw in to that deal to make it happen? The fact that they blamed everything on Bradley and thought Favors was the answer to begin with says everything about this organization
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Re: 2021 Off-Season. Another short one
[url]https://kslsports.com/463707/utah-jazz-nba-draft-prospect-jared-butler/[/url]
[QUOTE][B]Weaknesses: [/B]Butler lacks elite length, standing 6’3 with just a 6’4 wingspan. While his shorter arms seem to give him better control on his dribble and a more compact shooting motion, he may struggle to finish near the rim in the NBA.
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non Wizard length
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Re: 2021 Off-Season. Another short one
[url]https://kslsports.com/463689/utah-jazz-nba-draft-prospects-ayo-dosunmu/[/url]
[QUOTE][B]Strengths: [/B]Dosunmu’s physical profile is what initially jumps off the page standing 6’5 in shoes with a strong 6’10 wingspan. In a league that continues to trend towards positional versatility on both ends of the floor, Dosunmu has the type of length that could fill a variety of roles in the NBA.
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Wizard length
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Re: 2021 Off-Season. Another short one
[url]https://kslsports.com/463678/making-sense-of-latest-jazz-rumors/[/url]
[QUOTE]In the report, Moore wrote that the Jazz are anxious to move Derrick Favors just one year after signing him to a three-year, nearly $30 million contract. Favors, who turned 30 just last week has considerable wear on his tires after joining the NBA as a 19-year-old.
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Should be obvious. Clarkson and Hughes too
[QUOTE]First, on a simple cost to production ratio, moving Favors makes the most sense for the Jazz if they are looking to cut salary. Outside of a few strong performances in the first round of the playoffs, Favors looked like a replacement-level reserve for most of the season.
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and you could have paid Bradley for that and got the starting PF they desperately need
[QUOTE]As it turned out, Gobert played 71 of the team’s 72 games and signed a contract extension with the Jazz in December, limiting Favors value.
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Gobert healthy. Big surprise! :facepalm
[QUOTE]With the number of high-priced deals already on the Jazz books, young players on cheap contracts should be a premium for the team, and the best way to acquire those players is through the draft. Would the Jazz be willing to give up another draft pick, knowing they likely won’t have their first-round pick next season to get out of Favors deal?
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more young players that COTY won't play?
[QUOTE]If Conley leaves, the Jazz would be hard-pressed to find a better point guard option than Ingles in the draft or free agency. Ingles has proven throughout his career, including in the Jazz latest playoff run that he’s more than capable of playing starting minutes on a good playoff team.
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regardless of Conley who they getting better than Ingles coming off his best season?
[QUOTE]Similarly, Bogdanovic proved to be a viable second scoring option for the Jazz when they were playing without either Conley or Mitchell in the last two seasons. The Croatian was nearly an all-star two seasons ago as Conley struggled to find his footing with the Jazz. This past season he showed his ability to handle a huge scoring load when Conley and Mitchell missed games late in the schedule.
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nearly an all star? :lol
[QUOTE]Ultimately, the only major move the Jazz could pursue from Moore’s report before they have a better understanding of Conley’s future would be attempting to trade Favors on draft night. Otherwise, Conley remains the team’s ultimate domino in their offseason plans.
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Clarkson. Move Bojan to 6th man role
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Re: 2021 Off-Season. Another short one
[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/nba-draft/2021/7/20/22575002/2021-nba-draft-coverage-quentin-grimes-houston-kansas[/url]
[QUOTE]Physical: 21 years old (turns 22 next May), 6’5” with a 6’8” wingspan and 8’5” standing reach, 205 pounds
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non Wizard approved wingspan
[QUOTE]…but could he contribute right away?
Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/l3uddyh011y"]l3uddyh011y[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/nba-draft/2021/7/20/22575002/2021-nba-draft-coverage-quentin-grimes-houston-kansas#542621082"]Jul 20, 2021 | 8:59 AM[/URL]
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did he go to Duke?
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Re: 2021 Off-Season. Another short one
[QUOTE] Ben Anderson: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]The @Utah Jazz have promoted Marquis Newman to Director of Pro Personnel, filling the position left empty by Dave Fredman last month[/URL]. #takenote kslsports.com/463768/jazz-pr…
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/BensHoops"]Twitter BensHoops[/URL]
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Hadn't even heard about Fredman. He still with them? Been around since New Orleans I think
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Re: 2021 Off-Season. Another short one
[url]https://kslsports.com/463778/utah-jazz-nba-draft-prospects-joshua-primo/[/url]
[QUOTE]Primo is the youngest player in the draft, not turning 19 until Christmas Eve. Despite his youth, the Alabama product stands 6’5 while weighing 190 lbs and sporting a 6’9 wingspan.
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Wizard might approve
[QUOTE]Furthermore, Primo never had more than three assists in any game as a freshman. With his ability to space the floor, the guard should have had games where he moved the ball around the perimeter to other shooters or attacked closeouts leading to easy baskets for his bigs and accidentally recorded four or more assists in any one game.
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assists aren't as plentiful in college
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Re: 2021 Off-Season. Another short one
On Thursday, the Jazz will hold an important pre-draft workout, league sources tell The Athletic. [URL="https://theathletic.com/2722078/2021/07/22/jazz-set-to-get-close-look-at-key-draft-prospects-as-part-of-important-offseason/"]The participants, according to sources, will include Quentin Grimes, a 6-foot-5 guard out of Houston, David Duke, a 6-5 point guard from Providence, and Matt Mitchell,[/URL] a 6-6 small forward from San Diego State.
– via [URL="https://theathletic.com/2722078/2021/07/22/jazz-set-to-get-close-look-at-key-draft-prospects-as-part-of-important-offseason/"]Tony Jones @ The Athletic[/URL]
[URL="https://*********.com/storyline/draft-workouts/"] [/URL] [URL="https://theathletic.com/2722078/2021/07/22/jazz-set-to-get-close-look-at-key-draft-prospects-as-part-of-important-offseason/"]Grimes is someone the Jazz like at No. 30. Mitchell, according to sources, has had more than 10 workouts and is a riser up the boards who could find himself selected in the second round.[/URL] With the rise of P.J. Tucker types throughout the league, Mitchell’s two-way skill set as an undersized power forward could land him a role in the league. Duke is an older prospect as well, was one of the best point guards in the Big East, and someone who has nice size and athleticism for a point guard.
– via [URL="https://theathletic.com/2722078/2021/07/22/jazz-set-to-get-close-look-at-key-draft-prospects-as-part-of-important-offseason/"]Tony Jones @ The Athletic[/URL]
The workout is important because the Jazz have wanted to get a close look at Grimes. [URL="https://theathletic.com/2722078/2021/07/22/jazz-set-to-get-close-look-at-key-draft-prospects-as-part-of-important-offseason/"]Other candidates at No. 30 for the Jazz, according to sources, include Bones Hyland of VCU, Ayo Dosunmu from Illinois, Miles McBride out of West Virginia, Herb Jones from Alabama, Joel Ayayi from Gonzaga, Josh Primo from Alabama and Jared Butler from Baylor[/URL].
– via [URL="https://theathletic.com/2722078/2021/07/22/jazz-set-to-get-close-look-at-key-draft-prospects-as-part-of-important-offseason/"]Tony Jones @ The Athletic[/URL]