[QUOTE=kawhileonard2;14844128]Maybe top 10[/QUOTE]
Not even top 75. Stop listening to the media lol
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[QUOTE=kawhileonard2;14844128]Maybe top 10[/QUOTE]
Not even top 75. Stop listening to the media lol
[QUOTE=k0kakw0rld;14844136]Not even top 75. Stop listening to the media lol[/QUOTE]
Way too early to tell, he is raw both in skills, physicality and mentally.
Shouldn't be playing in the NBA yet imo, would have greatly benefited from 2 years of college with a strength coach.
Dude WILL be great.
How healthy he can stay and how great are the questions.
Its odd.
Clearly very talented in terms of the athletic traits. But being that big, and playing the way he does, it almost takes away from some of the more effective things he can do.
I think the biggest upside for a guy like him to bring to any team is the defensive side. Able to rotate, track and stay on anyone and disrupt shots, etc.
I just don't see it from the offensive side of things. He will be good/great on that end, but some of his talents actually make it hard to place him and how he should play on the offensive side.
[QUOTE=plowking;14845056]Its odd.
Clearly very talented in terms of the athletic traits. But being that big, and playing the way he does, it almost takes away from some of the more effective things he can do.
I think the biggest upside for a guy like him to bring to any team is the defensive side. Able to rotate, track and stay on anyone and disrupt shots, etc.
I just don't see it from the offensive side of things. He will be good/great on that end, but some of his talents actually make it hard to place him and how he should play on the offensive side.[/QUOTE]
An extra 30-40 pounds will make a huge difference. We'll see him add that weight over the next 3-5 years. He'll also need to shift his mentality and embrace the center position and all its responsibilities. Things like setting proper screens, finishing plays in the paint, rebounding, boxing out, etc.
Even now he plays best at the five and with an actual PG in Tre Jones.
He's just too big to be floating around on the perimeter. Needs to take advantage of his incredible size by playing in the paint more. Hopefully he understands that and evolves beyond a fetish for Kevin Durant.
Biggest question right now that kblaze mentioned in another thread is his rebounding.
It's really not a question. He's very good in traffic on the boards. His on/off numbers suggest the team gains control of the ball far more with him than without him when a shot goes up and it is easy to see with the eye test as well.
Eliteballer was right about something basketball related wow.
[IMG]https://i.pinimg.com/474x/9b/c7/87/9bc787078fdbd1b9df8661c1021c7747.jpg[/IMG]
[QUOTE=Im Still Ballin;14845058]An extra [b]30-40 pounds[/b] will make a huge difference. [b]We'll see him add that weight over the next 3-5 years.[/b] He'll also need to shift his mentality and embrace the center position and all its responsibilities. Things like setting proper screens, finishing plays in the paint, rebounding, boxing out, etc.
Even now he plays best at the five and with an actual PG in Tre Jones.
He's just too big to be floating around on the perimeter. Needs to take advantage of his incredible size by playing in the paint more. Hopefully he understands that and evolves beyond a fetish for Kevin Durant.[/QUOTE]
You're fukkin' high, chico
everyone saw this coming.
that first person video of him draining threes and showing how low the rim is at his height - it was laughable.
basketball is literally easy for him
He definitely will surpass Lebron so he will be borderline top 10 all time.
[QUOTE=Carbine;14846070]It's really not a question. He's very good in traffic on the boards. His on/off numbers suggest the team gains control of the ball far more with him than without him when a shot goes up and it is easy to see with the eye test as well.[/QUOTE]
Traffic is one thing with his length and athleticism. Doing it when things slow down to a halfcourt bump n grind where leverage, agility strength, center of gravity, quickness off the jump, and timing all factor heavily.
It's why guys like Rodman and Barkley were the greatest rebounders and not Shawn Bradley or Yao.
[QUOTE=Im Still Ballin;14845058]An extra 30-40 pounds will make a huge difference. [/QUOTE]
He needs to talk to Giannis and get his nigerian hookup with the roids.
No joke either.
If he does bulk up with roids like Giannis did, then it will make a huge difference.
Porzingis never roided and while he got much stronger, he is still too light to play the post.
[Video=youtube;-K8MbCYEs9s]youtube;[url]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-K8MbCYEs9s[/url][/video]
This guy has a lot of potential but it seems he's far from being invulnerable.
Welcome to the NBA moment.
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEIroBJ78p8[/url]
Not even close to going that full tilt yet
This dude has so many qualities that its kind of hard to decide which centers or players he needs to watch to learn how to play like them. He has a little bit of everything. Lets go Wemby!
Good player.
I like to watch.
[QUOTE=WhiteKyrie;14871760]Not even close to going that full tilt yet[/QUOTE]
Terrified already :roll:
His GOAT odds are like lottery odds.
There are 6 million more likely outcomes, from worse Porzingis to better Porzingis.
Another entire range of worse injured 7’3” Durant to better Durant.
But better than Mike with 6+ titles and 6 FMVP ? And fear in his opponents ?
I can hardly see it even if we let Vic do all the steroids he wants.
[QUOTE=BarberSchool;14872027]His GOAT odds are like lottery odds.
There are 6 million more likely outcomes, from worse Porzingis to better Porzingis.
Another entire range of worse injured 7’3” Durant to better Durant.
But better than Mike with 6+ titles and 6 FMVP ? And fear in his opponents ?
I can hardly see it even if we let Vic do all the steroids he wants.[/QUOTE]
He's not Zingis though.
Not a good shooter and much better at running and driving.
I'd say he projects more as Giannis, but probably needs some roids.
He should watch Tim Duncan. He can be a REAL Center versión of Tim Duncan.
[QUOTE=Round Mound;14872046]He should watch Tim Duncan. He can be a REAL Center versión of Tim Duncan.[/QUOTE]
If he can combine Tim Duncan’s defensive footwork and defensive positioning, and continue to evolve his offensive repertoire on some bully Durant and Giannis …. Vic can be something truly truly special all time. Top 5. But the odds he will be able to do all that are very low.
But GOAT ? Man … that’s tall as fu@k odds.
I can’t see any killer in him.
I can def see intelligence tho.
Been great this game. Gonna be amazing to eventually see him on a team gunning for a championship.
33/16/7/7 blocks without stat padding (unlike Luka) :applause:
Not dismissing his potential or anything but spurs this season might end up having a worse record tho than last year. I wonder what changed.
[QUOTE=Axe;14893032]Not dismissing his potential or anything but spurs this season might end up having a worse record tho than last year. I wonder what changed.[/QUOTE]
Pop sabotaging the team (hopefully) for a high pick. Seriously they're abysmally coached. Also Zack Collins got a lot worse and they played a huge chunk of the year with no point guard (which no team does).
[QUOTE=SATAN;14893014]33/16/7/7 blocks without stat padding (unlike Luka) :applause:[/QUOTE]
As he gets more comfortable with his floor spots and becomes the main focus of the offense, it might be a short time before we start seeing stat lines like this from Victor on a nightly basis.
[video]https://www.youtube.com/shorts/WUVYMZMiq6g[/video]
You got the Spurs G-leaguers seemingly going out of their way to avoid giving Wemby the ball. Gotta earn those next contracts afterall....
According to Cleaning The Glass, San Antonio has a 113.0 defensive rating with Victor Wembanyama on the court. When he's off the court, that drops 11.5 points per possession to a 124.5 defensive rating. That's like going from the 7th defense to the 30th!
There were several times when Luka got into the lane last night and noped out of what would have likely been a shot due to Wemby being there. He's on the books for 3.5 blocks per, but the amount of shots that either aren't taken or altered to a degree that greatly reduces their conversion chances can't be understated.
When it comes to upside, there's NO QUESTION he's the TRUEST thing to a unicorn we have ever seen. His ULTIMATE UPSIDE would be like a 7'4 version of KD and Giannis INTO ONE PACKAGE! The final piece would be adding sick postwork like a Dream or Duncan on top of it. Sampson deserves MAJOR CREDIT for the shit he was doing at 7'4 back in the day. So I see Sampson in his game too. But he's not as good as Joker or Embid yet. Two of the top 5-6 best centers ever peak-prime wise. If you consider him a PF eventually you still got Giannis in the way. Who peak-prime wise is the best PF of all time in my opinion. SO ONCE he can eclipse those guys peak prime wise, THEN when gotta see IF he can come close to matching their accolades.
He is incredible
40/20/7/1/1 with 12 seconds left in OT.
(Brunson has 61 points btw)
My boy will save the league
He will also overtake LeFraud faily quickly without having to push any narrative or collude....it will all be evident on court.
Fairly easy to see Wemby as the best player of his era when we fast forward 15 years. The other best Under 25 players are Ja, Zion, Panchero and Haliburton. Chet too.
Not a terribly tough group to rise above.
[QUOTE=Carbine;14895540]Fairly easy to see Wemby as the best player of his era when we fast forward 15 years. The other best Under 25 players are Ja, Zion, Panchero and Haliburton. Chet too.
Not a terribly tough group to rise above.[/QUOTE]
Ja will fizzle out, can't imagine him having the longevity with his reckless play style.
Luka is still very young, I can see Wemby & Luka battle it out for best in the league 3-4 years from now.
[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;14895543]Ja will fizzle out, can't imagine him having the longevity with his reckless play style.
Luka is still very young, I can see Wemby & Luka battle it out for best in the league 3-4 years from now.[/QUOTE]
Wemby will obliterate Luka's impact if he reaches his potential.