ESPN Insider Accuses LeBron James Of Using Performance Enhancers

This isn't something new

Crazy its confirmed like this. Is lebron barred from the hall of fame now or do we not care about that for basketball

[QUOTE=Soundwave;14746644]Even when LeBron was on the Heat, I remember there was lots of discussion on this board and other boards that LeBron at times seemed to not be himself and just seemed "off" and not as explosive athletically for random stretches, which looking back at it now seems like a tell tale sign of cycling on/off PEDs.

I would guess as the years have gone on and the PEDs have evolved, he's probably gotten his cycle/stack down to a science so that the dips are minimal if he is using.[/QUOTE]

I remember this as well. He was really slow and plodding … quickness and burst wise in 2011. Couldn’t get by defenders at all off the dribble or triple threat without picks.

Then of course the weird random super dramatic weight loss to start the 2014 - 2015 season, before he came back to Cleveland. Which just happened to coincide with a new drug testing policy from the players union. He looked meager athletically all of a sudden in the first several weeks of the season. Couldn’t dunk and was jagging layups. Then in January takes a random two week vacay to Miami and comes back and is automatically super explosive athletically again.

It’s not coincidence.

I think where there is smoke, there is fire. And yes the drugs have probably got better and more sophisticated with time. His body and for all intents and purposes minimal regression athletically from 2015 - Now, makes it more than obvious he’s got to be on something.

[QUOTE=FKAri;14742857]Modern PEDs focus more on recovery and endurance as opposed to peak performance. This wasn't the cast a few decades ago.



As an ESPN insider, I have some sway with them. I just sent this to ESPN.[/QUOTE]

What did ESPN say?

[QUOTE=WhiteKyrie;14749731]I remember this as well. He was really slow and plodding … quickness and burst wise in 2011. Couldn’t get by defenders at all off the dribble or triple threat without picks.

Then of course the weird random super dramatic weight loss to start the 2014 - 2015 season, before he came back to Cleveland. Which just happened to coincide with a new drug testing policy from the players union. He looked meager athletically all of a sudden in the first several weeks of the season. Couldn’t dunk and was jagging layups. Then in January takes a random two week vacay to Miami and comes back and is automatically super explosive athletically again.

It’s not coincidence.

I think where there is smoke, there is fire. And yes the drugs have probably got better and more sophisticated with time. His body and for all intents and purposes minimal regression athletically from 2015 - Now, makes it more than obvious he’s got to be on something.[/QUOTE]

Quite mysterious indeed.

[QUOTE]Here's the story behind the 2-week break that turned LeBron James' season around
[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]LeBron was going to play, and LeBron just decided, 'I'm not gonna play.' Like, at the last minute, he told them, 'I'm not playing.' Didn't even come out to the bench, just sat in the back, didn't come out."

Windhorst says the Cavaliers' brass was stunned.

"[James] had sort of just like waved a bit of a white flag there. He just didn't feel like playing. He had never done that ever before. He had always just played through it. And so it was after that game, [the Cavaliers] said, 'Alright, take your two weeks off,' because he had reached a very low point." [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]James returned from his two-week break in Miami on January 13 to play the Phoenix Suns. The Cavs lost that game, pushing them to 19-20, but James had his best game of the season to that point, totalling 33 points, 7 rebounds, and 5 assists.

Since that game, that Cavs have gone 29-7, while James has averaged 24.5 points, 48.5% shooting, six rebounds, and seven assists per game.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]Nobody is quite sure why James' two-week break turned around his season. He does seem healthier and more explosive. If it was just fatigue and simple aches that he was dealing with, then two weeks may have been enough to revitalize him.[/QUOTE]

[url]https://www.businessinsider.com/lebron-james-2-week-break-turned-his-season-around-2015-4[/url]

[QUOTE=eliteballer;14755822]Quite mysterious indeed.









[url]https://www.businessinsider.com/lebron-james-2-week-break-turned-his-season-around-2015-4[/url][/QUOTE]

Oh I know, I remember it quite well. Visibly he looked like he aged well 10 years from June 2014 during the Finals.

And this coincided with weight loss under the guise of a random try hard experiment diet (right before the season?!) with the new drug testing policy.

Is pathetic athletically and looks to have very visibly regressed, and then two weeks in Miami suddenly and shockingly and came back looking like an entirely different player. Back to his normal.

And it’s been that way ever since. Minimal regression athletically until the past 2 seasons where if you know what you’re watching or seen him his entire career, it’s quite visible even if minimal overall.

He looked like shit in 2011 with a testing policy going on that season as we. Out of any NBA superstar ever, with the exception of the very obvious 2003 and 2005 weight gains from Kobe, never has their been seasons more obvious a megastar was visibly on something.

[QUOTE=WhiteKyrie;14756022]Oh I know, I remember it quite well. Visibly he looked like he aged well 10 years from June 2014 during the Finals.

And this coincided with weight loss under the guise of a random try hard experiment diet (right before the season?!) with the new drug testing policy.

Is pathetic athletically and looks to have very visibly regressed, and then two weeks in Miami suddenly and shockingly and came back looking like an entirely different player. Back to his normal.

And it’s been that way ever since. Minimal regression athletically until the past 2 seasons where if you know what you’re watching or seen him his entire career, it’s quite visible even if minimal overall.

He looked like shit in 2011 with a testing policy going on that season as we. Out of any NBA superstar ever, with the exception of the very obvious 2003 and 2005 weight gains from Kobe, never has their been seasons more obvious a megastar was visibly on something.[/QUOTE]

He said he was on some paleo diet eating a bunch of fish and that was the reason he lost tons of muscle mass and always looked drained.

:roll: :roll:

[QUOTE=WhiteKyrie;14756022]Oh I know, I remember it quite well. Visibly he looked like he aged well 10 years from June 2014 during the Finals.

And this coincided with weight loss under the guise of a random try hard experiment diet (right before the season?!) with the new drug testing policy.

Is pathetic athletically and looks to have very visibly regressed, and then two weeks in Miami suddenly and shockingly and came back looking like an entirely different player. Back to his normal.

And it’s been that way ever since. Minimal regression athletically until the past 2 seasons where if you know what you’re watching or seen him his entire career, it’s quite visible even if minimal overall.

He looked like shit in 2011 with a testing policy going on that season as we. Out of any NBA superstar ever, with the exception of the very obvious 2003 and 2005 weight gains from Kobe, never has their been seasons more obvious a megastar was visibly on something.[/QUOTE]

How does LeBron look now on 2023 coming back from an injury just 3 games ago?

:lebronamazed:

[QUOTE=Soundwave;14746644]Even when LeBron was on the Heat, I remember there was lots of discussion on this board and other boards that LeBron at times seemed to not be himself and just seemed "off" and not as explosive athletically for random stretches, which looking back at it now seems like a tell tale sign of cycling on/off PEDs.

I would guess as the years have gone on and the PEDs have evolved, he's probably gotten his cycle/stack down to a science so that the dips are minimal if he is using.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WhiteKyrie;14749731]I remember this as well. He was really slow and plodding … quickness and burst wise in 2011. Couldn’t get by defenders at all off the dribble or triple threat without picks.

Then of course the weird random super dramatic weight loss to start the 2014 - 2015 season, before he came back to Cleveland. Which just happened to coincide with a new drug testing policy from the players union. He looked meager athletically all of a sudden in the first several weeks of the season. Couldn’t dunk and was jagging layups. Then in January takes a random two week vacay to Miami and comes back and is automatically super explosive athletically again.

It’s not coincidence.

I think where there is smoke, there is fire. And yes the drugs have probably got better and more sophisticated with time. His body and for all intents and purposes minimal regression athletically from 2015 - Now, makes it more than obvious he’s got to be on something.[/QUOTE]

I think this is the wrong perspective. A lot of these issues aren't due to a lack of explosiveness or quickness. It's due to a lack of stamina. That's where EPO comes in.

How about those roids?

Get those roids ready for game 6 LeBron

:lebronamazed:

[QUOTE=VictorMosquito;14749692]Crazy its confirmed like this. Is lebron barred from the hall of fame now or do we not care about that for basketball[/QUOTE]

It’s also crazy sports media or just news in general is not covering this big discovery. You would think a budding journalist could benefit from such a controversial fact coming to light and exposing a league that has allowed it and may have even tried to sweep it under the rug.

Wouldn’t be surprised if lebron fakes an injury during elimination game

I find it hilarious a lot of the Kobe and Jordan fans think their heroes weren't on it as well.

82 games + another 20 for playoffs - back to back to back, and you think these guys are doing it without some illegal substances? What is the incentive? Oh nothing... Just a couple hundred million dollars.

All your fav athletes are on something.

Kobe is rolling in his grave

[QUOTE=plowking;14765127]I find it hilarious a lot of the Kobe and [B]Jordan fans think their heroes weren't on it [/B]as well.

82 games + another 20 for playoffs - back to back to back, and you think these guys are doing it without some illegal substances? What is the incentive? Oh nothing... Just a couple hundred million dollars.

All your fav athletes are on something.[/QUOTE]

I don't know about Kobe....but MJ is the basketball equivalent to Barry Bonds. He has so many signs of longterm drug use...between his f'd up eyes, roid belly, and loss of hair (when he gained muscle).

Was there any follow-up to this?

Where's Chael's 60 Minutes interview over this?

No follow up by media on this story?

[QUOTE=John8204;14765132]I don't know about Kobe....but MJ is the basketball equivalent to Barry Bonds. He has so many signs of longterm drug use...between his f'd up eyes, roid belly, and loss of hair (when he gained muscle).[/QUOTE]
"roid belly" lmao. MJ's not gonna have roid belly(GH gut) dummy. That's not how it works. There's no signs MJ was on anything other than the Tim Grover connection which is about as flimsy as LeBron's connection.

Kobe on the other hand had ritalin show up in his toxicology report. And this guy was known to sleep less than 5 hours on the regular. Pretty much a smoking gun.

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When your stomach has abs and descends further out than your chest...that is a roid gut.

[QUOTE=plowking;14765127]I find it hilarious a lot of the Kobe and Jordan fans think their heroes weren't on it as well.

82 games + another 20 for playoffs - back to back to back, and you think these guys are doing it without some illegal substances? What is the incentive? Oh nothing... Just a couple hundred million dollars.

All your fav athletes are on something.[/QUOTE]

LeBron being on peds according to the ESPN insider is the only proof currently available.

Dude looks f*cking massive tonight.

[QUOTE=eliteballer;14765545]Dude looks f*cking massive tonight.[/QUOTE]

Roid rage?

Is LeBron not using peds in these playoffs? Maybe the ESPN insider scared the roids into hiding

I don't get why we care so much if a guy takes substances to make himself stronger. Isn't that the whole goal of sports? Did anybody have a problem with Arnold and all those body builders taking a million roids and becoming champions?

Lebron is obviously on a high level cocktail but that's life. When it comes to cheating the sport of basketball I think the refs and how they're told to call games and favor certain players is far more nefarious and cheating of the game of basketball.

I honestly wish there were no free throws. Just a foul limit and obviously ejection if you perform some crazy assault. Guys would still have to make sure not to foul so they don't foul out, but it would just be check ball. Every bucket scored from the field.

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When your stomach has abs and descends further out than your chest...that is a roid gut.[/QUOTE]

That's about the weakest case for a roid gut I've ever seen.

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That's a roid gut.

[QUOTE=tpols;14766516]

That's a roid gut.[/QUOTE]

In a bodybuilder sure...but not all drug users use roids for bulk.

This is also what a steroid user looks like

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If it were just the gut than I would say...Jordan's clean
- bald before he 25
- notorious for mood swings
- ties to a steroid user
- played in the unregulated era...where everyone was on drugs then left the sport during the baseball trials and returned when basketball wasn't going to be investigated like baseball.
-currently has yellow eyes a sign of liver damage common in steroid users

Lebron looked pretty skinny in his shirtless lockerroom interview after game 7

[QUOTE=John8204;14766539]In a bodybuilder sure...but not all drug users use roids for bulk.

This is also what a steroid user looks like

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If it were just the gut than I would say...Jordan's clean
- bald before he 25
- notorious for mood swings
- ties to a steroid user
- played in the unregulated era...where everyone was on drugs then left the sport during the baseball trials and returned when basketball wasn't going to be investigated like baseball.
-currently has yellow eyes a sign of liver damage common in steroid users[/QUOTE]

All of those things can occur from heavy alcohol use. And Michael was a known drinker and gambler. If anything he handicapped himself with that stuff and still became the GOAT.

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So deranged and desperate to deflect:oldlol:

[QUOTE=tpols;14766542]All of those things can occur from heavy alcohol use. And Michael was a known drinker and gambler. If anything he handicapped himself with that stuff and still became the GOAT.[/QUOTE]

Very true but that brings us to the second point...Michael's character. Michael Jordan is a womanizer, gambler, who had shady friends and business dealings. He was notorious for having a temper and took a swing at Steve Kerr. Now after geting his brains battered in by Mahorn, Laimbeer, Salley and all those Pistons is it out of the question that Michael wouldn't try and get an edge.

I think the difference between Lebron and MJ was Lebron used his money to hire a biochemist and push the line as hard as he could without going over it. Jordan I believe got off cheating whenever he could because that's in his character.

Is LeBron using peds for game 2?

[QUOTE=eliteballer;14767097]So [B]deranged[/B] and desperate to deflect:oldlol:[/QUOTE]

Might want to take a look through the thread and see who the deranged and desperate one is with the amount of posts replying to himself.

Hint - its you.

The timing of ESPN insider news break of LeBron using peds seems to coincide with the time LeBron stats fell off a cliff.

Coincidence??

Is LeBron using peds for game 4?

[QUOTE=Soundwave;14742820]I don't think MJ really did, I think he just adjusted his game (clear as day) as he got older to rely more on conserving energy and not dunking as much and utilizing post jumpers. If he was abusing effective PEDs, that probably shouldn't have been necessary.

I'm not as sure about Kobe.

If a player is basically playing the same exact style into their mid-late 30s as they were 10 years prior ... that's probably a red flag for PED usage.[/QUOTE]

didn't kobe go to germany for some treatment that wasn't approved in america? i forgot the details

If Lebron does, he's on the worst gear i've ever seen. Dude is the most gassed player out of everyone in the playoffs rn.

He should give Curry a call, never seen someone run around for the whole game every single time and never get tired.

Did LeBron get drug tested after game 6? Or is it too risky for the image of the NBA this point?