Trump announces 25% tariff on all imported cars and car parts

[QUOTE=warriorfan;14990100]How is making fun of someone for eating beans racist lmao.

You are weird.[/QUOTE]

Huh, Americans eat a lot of beans too, they don't call Boston Beantown for nothing and last I checked, Boston isn't a city where Mexican Americans make up a sizable portion of the populace. Texas white boys love themselves some Chili Beans too. Beaner is just a dumb slur, like making fun of Americans for eating hamburger, like you're a hamburgerer, it's goofy. Same as tacos, you whiteys love wolfing it down. Same applies to black people and fried chicken, something wrong with you if you don't like fried chicken, it's basically a staple in a gang of cultures. And who doesn't love watermelons too :facepalm Making fun of an ethnicity for what they eat always seemed low IQ to me, especially if it's enjoyed by other cultures, I love rice, making fun of Asians for liking what I like is retarded :lol

[QUOTE=RRR3;14990119]Funny thing is he once (correctly) called highwhey out for being racist but he doesn't see the irony in him doing the same shit. But then again he is basically an evil version of Badger from Breaking Bad.[/QUOTE]

TBH, I'm not racist but when a Chinese dope like BigKobeFan attacks my ethnicity, I fight fire with fire to light his ass up. I shut him up in a thread calling him the epitome of worthlessness, A Chinaman who is lacking in dick size but to compensate for that in high IQ, he's retarded lol, he didn't touch that one haha

[QUOTE=TheMan;14990129]TBH, I'm not racist but when a Chinese dope like BigKobeFan attacks my ethnicity, I fight fire with fire to light his ass up. I shut his up in a thread calling him the epitome of worthlessness, A Chinaman who is lacking in dick size but to compensate for that in high IQ, he's retarded lol, he didn't touch that one haha[/QUOTE]
Responding to racism with racism is in fact racist, dawg. You don't fight the enemy with their own evil tactics. Telling yourself it's not racist might make you able to sleep at night, but it's the same shit they're doing.

[QUOTE=RRR3;14990130]Responding to racism with racism is in fact racist, dawg. You don't fight the enemy with their own evil tactics. Telling yourself it's not racist might make you able to sleep at night, but it's the same shit they're doing.[/QUOTE]

It's the internet, I troll right back. Being a racist irl matters, not what you say in a dying message board. I have never insulted a person by their race in person because I'm not built like that. I have never attacked your heritage even when we have had our beefs in the past, and that's because you don't attack mine, see?

[QUOTE=Off the Court;14990086]yeah now it just goes to LGBT or race. Most of them have now taken their masks off and are now making full blown racist threads. They are what we thought they were.


MAGA posters: "wetback this, wetback that, beaner this, beaner that"

Also MAGA posters: "Democrats are the racist ones!"[/QUOTE]
Aka goalpost moving.

[QUOTE=RRR3;14990130]Responding to racism with racism is in fact racist, dawg. You don't fight the enemy with their own evil tactics. Telling yourself it's not racist might make you able to sleep at night, but it's the same shit they're doing.[/QUOTE]

shut the hell up, k1ke.

[QUOTE=diamenz;14990155]shut the hell up, k1ke.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Phoenix;14989796][url]https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/stellantis-lays-off-hundreds-of-workers-in-us-over-trump-tariffs-reports/ar-AA1CeGHI?ocid=msedgntp&pc=ACTS&cvid=a943d6bb09c14a0985659477ba0ed51a&ei=32[/url]

[I]"Stellantis has said it is temporarily laying off 900 workers across five U.S. facilities following the announcement of sweeping tariffs from President Donald Trump, Reuters reported.

In a statement to Newsweek, Stellantis wrote: "As a result of pausing production at several of Stellantis' Canadian and Mexican plants, there will be temporary layoffs at the Warren Stamping and Sterling Stamping plants (Michigan) as well as the Indiana Transmission Plant, Kokomo Transmission Plant and Kokomo Casting Plant (Indiana)."

Newsweek reached out to the U.S. Treasury for comment via email.
Why It Matters

Trump announced plans to impose higher tariff rates on dozens of countries that run trade surpluses with the United States on Wednesday, which he called "Liberation Day." While Trump has argued that these tariffs are necessary to restore U.S. manufacturing, economists have warned that companies will pass off the prices to American consumers, resulting in higher prices."[/I][/QUOTE]

They'll start making those parts again when the production is moved back to the US.

[QUOTE]Stellantis has committed to reopening its shuttered Belvidere Assembly plant in Illinois to build an all-new mid-size pickup truck in 2027 and return approximately 1,500 union-represented jobs, the United Auto Workers announced in a press release Wednesday.

Stellantis also announced plans to build the next generation Dodge Durango SUV at its Detroit Assembly Complex in Michigan, which was previously canceled, according to the UAW.

In the letter to employees, Elkann also announced the company’s other plans. They include investments in additional technologies for Jeep Wrangler and Jeep Gladiator production at its Toledo Assembly Complex, as well as components critical to production at its Toledo Machining Plant. Stellantis also plans to invest in its Kokomo, Indiana facilities to produce the GMET4 EVO engine for future models.
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[QUOTE=ZenMaster;14990200]They'll start making those parts again when the production is moved back to the US.[/QUOTE]

:roll:

[QUOTE=TheMan;14990202]:roll:[/QUOTE]

Because the cars aren't be produced in Mexico or Canada they won't need transmissions? :oldlol:

[QUOTE=Overdrive;14990072]Sorry, but it's obvious. Any Dem president tanking the economy like Trump would get roasted by you guys. So it's either partizan thinking or my claim.[/QUOTE]

It's barely 100 days into his term. Go look when my criticism started on how your boy Biden was doing shit. Sure as hell wasn't after just 100 days.

[QUOTE=Hey Yo;14990211]It's barely 100 days into his term. Go look when my criticism started on how your boy Biden was doing shit. Sure as hell wasn't after just 100 days.[/QUOTE]

Biden isn't my boy. He's just a tad less right leaning than Trump and he was criticized before he was even inaugurated.

[QUOTE=ZenMaster;14990204]Because the cars aren't be produced in Mexico or Canada they won't need transmissions? :oldlol:[/QUOTE]


Yeah if you want industry to come back, the government needs to help out also but this dumbass one does the opposite, they cut the CHIPs Act that was supposed to help manufacturers come to America:roll:

It's hilarious you think Trump is using tariffs to encourage manufacturers to the US, it's for nefarious reasons, pick one of several theories out there.

There hasn't been one example in history of limiting trade and trying to become self-sufficient being good for a Country. The most recent 1:1 example of what's going on right now is literally Hitler's Germany.

[QUOTE]Autarky:
The Nazi government implemented a policy of "Autarky," aiming to make Germany self-sufficient by producing all the goods it needed, reducing reliance on imports.

Limited Trade Partners:
The Nazi government favored trade with countries within their sphere of influence, signing bilateral trade agreements with countries in Southern and South-Eastern Europe.

Economic Dependence:
The goal was to use economic and political power to make these countries dependent on Germany, with Germany drawing raw materials from the region in exchange for German manufactured goods.

Trade with Specific Countries:
Germany also maintained productive trade relationships with countries like Spain, Switzerland, and Sweden for specific resources and services.

[B]Cartels and Monopolies:
German businesses were encouraged to form cartels, monopolies, and oligopolies, whose interests were then protected by the state.
[/B]
Rationing of Consumer Goods:
Reduced foreign trade led to rationing of consumer goods like poultry, fruit, and clothing for many Germans.

Economic Strain:
The German economy became strained as it tried to meet its import demands, leading to shortages and a decline in quality of goods.

Focus on Rearmament:
Hitler dictated that shortages should hit normal Germans instead of hindering the rearmament effort. [/QUOTE]Source is AI, but this is all common knowledge out of any middle school history book.

Hitler gave the big govt contracts to his buddies at Mercedes Benz and Hugo Boss. That is NOT a free market, and definitely NOT fair competition. The bolded part is so "writing on the wall" it isn't even funny. That's literally Musk, Bezos and Zuck right now.

Their economy was somewhat sustainable due to literal labor camps(we're building one in Guantanamo, don't worry) and it still caused economic strain.

[QUOTE=j3lademaster;14990338]There hasn't been one example in history of limiting trade and trying to become self-sufficient being good for a Country. The most recent 1:1 example of what's going on right now is literally Hitler's Germany.

Source is AI, but this is all common knowledge out of any middle school history book.

Hitler gave the big govt contracts to his buddies at Mercedes Benz and Hugo Boss. That is NOT a free market, and definitely NOT fair competition. The bolded part is so "writing on the wall" it isn't even funny. That's literally Musk, Bezos and Zuck right now.

Their economy was somewhat sustainable due to literal labor camps(we're building one in Guantanamo, don't worry) and it still caused economic strain.[/QUOTE]
Everyone who is paying attention sees the parallels to Nazi Germany, but try telling that to MAGA and they just rage and fill their diapers

[QUOTE=RRR3;14990339]Everyone who is paying attention sees the parallels to Nazi Germany, but try telling that to MAGA and they just rage and fill their diapers[/QUOTE]

If we exterminate losers like yourself I'm fine with it.

[QUOTE=AlternativeAcc.;14990344]If we exterminate losers like yourself I'm fine with it.[/QUOTE]

Lol, how was that Super Bowl for ya? Decided to finally show your mug around these parts, eh? :oldlol:

Effing coward

[QUOTE=TheMan;14990328]Yeah if you want industry to come back, the government needs to help out also but this dumbass one does the opposite, they cut the CHIPs Act that was supposed to help manufacturers come to America:roll:

It's hilarious you think Trump is using tariffs to encourage manufacturers to the US, it's for nefarious reasons, pick one of several theories out there.[/QUOTE]

Yes if you start production in the US you don't have to pay any tariffs, how nefarious. And lol no I'm not going to pick one of your crazy conspiracy theories :oldlol:

[QUOTE=ZenMaster;14990406]Yes if you start production in the US you don't have to pay any tariffs, how nefarious. And lol no I'm not going to pick one of your crazy conspiracy theories :oldlol:[/QUOTE]

Dummy, if you want to encourage businesses to bring back jobs to the US, you offer loan guarantees, grants, tax benefits etc. You don't cut programs like the CHIPs Act :oldlol: Trump is offering none of that...this is just to consolidate power, this idiot is talking openly about a third term, never mind it's wholly unconstitutional. Wake up.

Thankfully people are waking up, his approvals are tanking and I predicted his approvals would be in the 30s by 2028, he's well on his way towards that. If he does try to stay in power, his corpse will be dragged out of the White House, the vast majority of us don't want a dictator.

[QUOTE=ZenMaster;14990406]Yes if you start production in the US you don't have to pay any tariffs, how nefarious. And lol no I'm not going to pick one of your crazy conspiracy theories :oldlol:[/QUOTE]

It's too late for that, especially by just raising and introducing tariffs. If production was brought back to the US labour would still be more expensive than overseas so a hike in prices will happen no matter what.

You could argue that atleast american workers get wages, but you can be sure they'll be bargained as low as possible. In the end it benefits a small group of people that are already at the top of the companies trying to shift production back to the US. I wonder if there are historic examples of that happening.

[QUOTE=TheMan;14990414]Dummy, if you want to encourage businesses to bring back jobs to the US, you offer loan guarantees, grants, tax benefits etc. You don't cut programs like the CHIPs Act :oldlol: Trump is offering none of that...this is just to consolidate power, this idiot is talking openly about a third term, never mind it's wholly unconstitutional. Wake up.

Thankfully people are waking up, his approvals are tanking and I predicted his approvals would be in the 30s by 2028, he's well on his way towards that. If he does try to stay in power, his corpse will be dragged out of the White House, the vast majority of us don't want a dictator.[/QUOTE]

They've been encouraged in the past and still did what they could to move production of US cars away from the US, so now they'll just be forced to move production back instead.

Do tell me more about how business who profit billions of dollars per year needs more tax benefits and loan guarantees lol. They get the benefit of NOT paying 25% tariff on their Mexican import product, should be all the incentive they need.

You guys are all over the place, oh he's consolidating power, he's actually a nazi, he's actually working with Putin on taking over the world, he's in the pocket of Musk who's the real President, Musk is actually working with Putin, he's just there to to enrich his friends, he's stupid and has no idea what he's doing, he's going to try and take over the world as a dictator, he'll start WWIII on purpose, he's tanking the economy on purpose etc.

You've reached such a peak level with this, that you're now telling me to "just pick your own conspiracy" and go with it :oldlol: :oldlol:

[QUOTE=Overdrive;14990415]It's too late for that, especially by just raising and introducing tariffs. If production was brought back to the US labour would still be more expensive than overseas so a hike in prices will happen no matter what.

You could argue that atleast american workers get wages, but you can be sure they'll be bargained as low as possible. In the end it benefits a small group of people that are already at the top of the companies trying to shift production back to the US. I wonder if there are historic examples of that happening.[/QUOTE]

Too late for what? The world isn't ending tomorrow or next year you know.. It's funny with people like you, where there's just no solution. They ship over cars made in Europe to the US, but not the other way. You can certainly change the rules so it can either be done both ways, or so the brands will have local production on both continents.


We'll see where potential price hikes ends up at, e.g Ford is already offering it's "From America, For America" deal where customers get discounts at same level as employees until June 3. I have strong doubts you'll just see a general price hike of 25% from one day to the other as it might lead to any of these manufacturers losing maybe 50% of their sales, and the real profit for automakers isn't on the individual sale itself, but to sell a lot of cars so they can service them for years after.
Plenty of cars made in the US that manufacturers profit from, some cars are even made both in the US and Mexico, without the Mexican model being cheaper.

[QUOTE]This Ford Motor Company: From America, For America program is a testament to our commitment to assembling where we sell. It's a way for us to give back to the communities that have supported us for generations.

Ford is proud to employ more U.S. hourly autoworkers than any other automaker. When you buy a Ford vehicle, you're not just getting a capable vehicle; you're investing in American jobs and American communities.

And we believe in American ingenuity and the enduring spirit of the American driver.

Rob Kaffl is Ford director, U.S. sales and dealer relations.[/QUOTE]

[URL="https://www.fromtheroad.ford.com/us/en/articles/2025/a-handshake-deal-for-america-ford-employee-pricing-for-everyone#:~:text=We%20call%20it%20Ford%20Motor,will%20impact%20their%20daily%20lives."]https://www.fromtheroad.ford.com/us/en/articles/2025/a-handshake-deal-for-america-ford-employee-pricing-for-everyone#:~:text=We%20call%20it%20Ford%20Motor,will%20impact%20their%20daily%20lives.[/URL]

[QUOTE=TheMan;14990414]Dummy, if you want to encourage businesses to bring back jobs to the US, you offer loan guarantees, grants, tax benefits etc. You don't cut programs like the CHIPs Act :oldlol: Trump is offering none of that...this is just to consolidate power, this idiot is talking openly about a third term, never mind it's wholly unconstitutional. Wake up.

Thankfully people are waking up, his approvals are tanking and I predicted his approvals would be in the 30s by 2028, he's well on his way towards that. If he does try to stay in power, his corpse will be dragged out of the White House, the vast majority of us don't want a dictator.[/QUOTE]

This clown now wants more tax breaks for the rich

[QUOTE=TheMan;14990414]Dummy, if you want to encourage businesses to bring back jobs to the US, you offer loan guarantees, grants, tax benefits etc. You don't cut programs like the CHIPs Act :oldlol: Trump is offering none of that...this is just to consolidate power, this idiot is talking openly about a third term, never mind it's wholly unconstitutional. Wake up.

Thankfully people are waking up, his approvals are tanking and I predicted his approvals would be in the 30s by 2028, he's well on his way towards that. If he does try to stay in power, his corpse will be dragged out of the White House, the vast majority of us don't want a dictator.[/QUOTE]

TDS has you melting down after midnight on a Saturday

:roll:

Elon Musk is now starting to speak out against the tariffs.

[url]https://www.thedailybeast.com/elon-musk-melts-down-at-trumps-tariff-guru-peter-navarro-as-feud-goes-public/[/url]



I knew it would only be a matter of time before the oligarchs finally stood up to Trump. Trillions wiped from their wealth, and a market drop comparable to covid will do it. It is going to be interesting to see Trump's ego feud with them.

I think the one positive here, is that if Trump does in fact completely burn the world's economy to the ground. It will finally unite us all together, and MAGA will be reduced to a small group of extremists.

Pelosi wanting the same as Trump, so why is it different now??

[video=youtube_share;sBF73bCYg5A]https://youtu.be/sBF73bCYg5A?si=sKp9CLAo9WDQ-1LT[/video]

[QUOTE=ZenMaster;14990418]Too late for what? The world isn't ending tomorrow or next year you know.. It's funny with people like you, where there's just no solution. They ship over cars made in Europe to the US, but not the other way. You can certainly change the rules so it can either be done both ways, or so the brands will have local production on both continents.


We'll see where potential price hikes ends up at, e.g Ford is already offering it's "From America, For America" deal where customers get discounts at same level as employees until June 3. I have strong doubts you'll just see a general price hike of 25% from one day to the other as it might lead to any of these manufacturers losing maybe 50% of their sales, and the real profit for automakers isn't on the individual sale itself, but to sell a lot of cars so they can service them for years after.
Plenty of cars made in the US that manufacturers profit from, some cars are even made both in the US and Mexico, without the Mexican model being cheaper.



[URL="https://www.fromtheroad.ford.com/us/en/articles/2025/a-handshake-deal-for-america-ford-employee-pricing-for-everyone#:~:text=We%20call%20it%20Ford%20Motor,will%20impact%20their%20daily%20lives."]https://www.fromtheroad.ford.com/us/en/articles/2025/a-handshake-deal-for-america-ford-employee-pricing-for-everyone#:~:text=We%20call%20it%20Ford%20Motor,will%20impact%20their%20daily%20lives.[/URL][/QUOTE]

Assemble is the magic word. The discounts are on pretariff models.
Give it a few months of tariffs and we'll see.

[QUOTE=Bill Gates;14990452]I think the one positive here, is that if Trump does in fact completely burn the world's economy to the ground. It will finally unite us all together, and MAGA will be reduced to a small group of extremists.[/QUOTE]

Funny how Trump does the "great reset" the maga heads and conspiracy nuts are so afraid of and even cheer for it.

[QUOTE=Overdrive;14990506]Funny how Trump does the "great reset" the maga heads and conspiracy nuts are so afraid of and even cheer for it.[/QUOTE]

You are a european ****** who depends on the US for defense that subsidizes all of your social programs.

Cringe.

[QUOTE=BigKobeFan;14990425]This clown now wants more tax breaks for the rich[/QUOTE]

This is a capitalist nation, numbnuts. Rich people own the companies that hire workers. If you really want them to come back to America, you're gonna have to help them out, not all rich people have unlimited resources like Musk you knuckledragger.

I thought you wanted manufacturing jobs to come back? You gotta offer incentives, tariffs alone won't do it. But then again that's not Trump's real motive for his trade war...

[QUOTE=warriorfan;14990514]You are a european ****** who depends on the US for defense that subsidizes all of your social programs.

Cringe.[/QUOTE]

You wish you lived in Europe so you wouldn't live in a cardboard box smoking crack to cope with your pity existence.

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[QUOTE=Bill Gates;14990450]Elon Musk is now starting to speak out against the tariffs.

[url]https://www.thedailybeast.com/elon-musk-melts-down-at-trumps-tariff-guru-peter-navarro-as-feud-goes-public/[/url]



I knew it would only be a matter of time before the oligarchs finally stood up to Trump. Trillions wiped from their wealth, and a market drop comparable to covid will do it. It is going to be interesting to see Trump's ego feud with them.[/QUOTE]

0% or very low tariffs both ways with the EU would be sweet.

[QUOTE=Overdrive;14990503]Assemble is the magic word. The discounts are on pretariff models.
Give it a few months of tariffs and we'll see.[/QUOTE]

Let's see in a few years, I'm pretty confident that if automakers could raise prices by 25% from one day to the other without crashing their sales, cars would already be 25% more expensive.
Right now it feels similar to discussion around illegal immigration, which dems spent years explaining that you juuuust couldn't fix it other than by doing it like it was done so before. In fact, it was Trump's fault that it wasn't fixed because he was blocking a bill and you juuuust couldn't fix illegal immigration without this bill made by the legacy politicians.

[QUOTE=TheMan;14990693]This is a capitalist nation, numbnuts. Rich people own the companies that hire workers. If you really want them to come back to America, you're gonna have to help them out, not all rich people have unlimited resources like Musk you knuckledragger.

I thought you wanted manufacturing jobs to come back? You gotta offer incentives, tariffs alone won't do it. But then again that's not Trump's real motive for his trade war...[/QUOTE]

It's a ruthless but strong negotiation tactic to flip the tables and provide this level of pressure on the other part. This way when you start negotiations, you're more likely to hit the minimum of what your counterpart would accept because you're leveraging them down.
Setting up these blanket tariffs hit both other countries and US corps nearshoring and offshoring, other countries are now coming to the negotiation table wanting to make a deal, while US corps are forced to look at bringing production home.

[QUOTE=Overdrive;14990731]You wish you lived in Europe so you wouldn't live in a cardboard box smoking crack to cope with your pity existence.[/QUOTE]

No one wants to live in europe and beg america to protect them so they can have shitty healthcare for cheap :roll:

[QUOTE=TheMan;14990693]This is a capitalist nation, numbnuts. Rich people own the companies that hire workers. If you really want them to come back to America, you're gonna have to help them out, not all rich people have unlimited resources like Musk you knuckledragger.

I thought you wanted manufacturing jobs to come back? You gotta offer incentives, tariffs alone won't do it. But then again that's not Trump's real motive for his trade war...[/QUOTE]

Tax the rich, Tax the rich. Now this clown wants to give tax breaks.

[QUOTE=TeflonDonTrump;14990830]Tax the rich, Tax the rich. Now this clown wants to give tax breaks.[/QUOTE]

less taxes, less taxes. now this clown wants to implement a massive tax through tariffs.

you could go back and forth all day with this petty shit. wtf does making juvenile statements like this accomplish?

[QUOTE=diamenz;14990846]less taxes, less taxes. now this clown wants to implement a massive tax through tariffs.

you could go back and forth all day with this petty shit. wtf does making juvenile statements like this accomplish?[/QUOTE]

This is about the hypocrisy of TacoMan. Any way to undermine trump. Its not about tariffs.

[QUOTE=TheMan;14990129]TBH, I'm not racist but when a Chinese dope like BigKobeFan attacks my ethnicity, I fight fire with fire to light his ass up. I shut him up in a thread calling him the epitome of worthlessness, A Chinaman who is lacking in dick size but to compensate for that in high IQ, he's retarded lol, he didn't touch that one haha[/QUOTE]

The only thing you lit up is the shopping cart for your Tacos.

[QUOTE=ArbitraryWater;14990742][IMG]https://i.gyazo.com/9fbb7f3e1f312142c768e10dc9156a2a.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]

Let's see what happens?

By then it will be too late.