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[QUOTE=Baller234;15026086]Mike Tyson is also good friends with Trump you genius. :oldlol:
We get it, everyone is racist.[/QUOTE]
Black people and get this…Hispanics voted for Trump. What are you trying to say exactly idiot? Cari Champion grandmom who loved during a time of segregation. Witnessed overt racism voted for Trump. She eventually said she made a terrible mistake in hindsight. But yeah what’s your point again?
[QUOTE=GOBB;15026095]Black people and get this…Hispanics voted for Trump. What are you trying to say exactly idiot? Cari Champion grandmom who loved during a time of segregation. Witnessed overt racism voted for Trump. She eventually said she made a terrible mistake in hindsight. But yeah what’s your point again?[/QUOTE]
Cari Champion? :oldlol:
Cari Champion is a dumb woke bimbo and you would know that if you ever heard her speak for more than 10 seconds. I'm betting the apple doesn't fall far from the tree when it comes to her grandmother. I don't even know why you would cite something so arbitrary.
You insinuated that being friends and/or a supporter of Trump equated to being an evil racist. Obviously that's not true because we both know there are countless black figures who claim to be his friend and have nothing but positive things to say about him. Herschel Walker was practically family and would take his kids on vacation with him.
Here is Jesse Jackson praising Trump for helping minority communities:
[url]https://x.com/bamajayt/status/1823780338767691881[/url]
^ Either Trump isn't racist or this is the single most offensive moment in black history and every person in that room needs to be tarred and feathered for cheering on Donald the Klansman.
So I mention Cari champion grandmother and you took time to bash her? Do you even know what you’re replying too at this point or nah? Hulk Hogan aligning himself with Donald Trump is very telling when you factor in his racist tirade that you want to protect due to “privacy”. How hard is this comprehend? Herschel Walker is a well known sellout. Nice name drop there bud.
[I] United States v. Fred C. Trump, Donald Trump, and Trump Management, Inc.[/I]
Trump was sued in the 70’s for housing discrimination. Hahaha
Why won't you acknowledge the video I shared of Jesse Jackson and the other black political leaders praising Trump?
Cari Champion is the definition of a DEI hire. If she wasn't pretty and didn't have nice legs, she would have never gotten through the door. Not sure what type of self respecting man would ever look to her guidance for anything.
Black people who actually know Trump, unlike Cari, say they are friends and that he's not a racist. Does their word mean nothing? You would rather the word of some dumb bimbo hoe who's never even met the man???
If Trump was so racist, why was Jesse Jackson giving him praise? Why were all the so called "not racist" democrats so cozy with him? How come no one called him a racist until he ran for president?
And if racism is such sticking point for so many of you, how come nothing to say about Joe Biden eulogizing a former KKK grand wizard (Robert Byrd) and referring to him as a great friend and mentor?
[QUOTE=Baller234;15026142]Why won't you acknowledge the video I shared of Jesse Jackson and the other black political leaders praising Trump?
Cari Champion is the definition of a DEI hire. If she wasn't pretty and didn't have nice legs, she would have never gotten through the door. Not sure what type of self respecting man would ever look to her guidance for anything.
Black people who actually know Trump, unlike Cari, say they are friends and that he's not a racist. Does their word mean nothing? You would rather the word of some dumb bimbo hoe who's never even met the man???
If Trump was so racist, why was Jesse Jackson giving him praise? Why were all the so called "not racist" democrats so cozy with him? How come no one called him a racist until he ran for president?
And if racism is such sticking point for so many of you, how come nothing to say about Joe Biden eulogizing a former KKK grand wizard (Robert Byrd) and referring to him as a great friend and mentor?[/QUOTE]
1. You want me to acknowledge everything you post but not do the same in return? Sorry bud it doesn’t work that way. Plenty of things you selectively ignore. So I’m retuning the favor.
2. You have an issue with Cari I don’t. She’s intelligent and articulate. And well versed in matters. You are choosing to bash her instead of acknowledge the example I used. Her grandmom who lived during a time where whites told her if she could drink from a water fountain, if she could eat in a diner voted for Trump recently. Soon after she admitted her error in doing so. Point is there were blacks and Hispanics who voted for Trump. Some are regretting their decision after the fact. But this is the bed they made al they must lay in it. As ICE deports their familiar members.
3. Hulk hogan is a goner brother. Some loved him some disliked him. That’s the way of the world.
[QUOTE=GOBB;15026179]1. You want me to acknowledge everything you post but not do the same in return? Sorry bud it doesn’t work that way. Plenty of things you selectively ignore. So I’m retuning the favor.
2. You have an issue with Cari I don’t.[B][SIZE=4] She’s intelligent and articulate. And well versed in matters.[/SIZE][/B] You are choosing to bash her instead of acknowledge the example I used. Her grandmom who lived during a time where whites told her if she could drink from a water fountain, if she could eat in a diner voted for Trump recently. Soon after she admitted her error in doing so. Point is there were blacks and Hispanics who voted for Trump. Some are regretting their decision after the fact. But this is the bed they made al they must lay in it. As ICE deports their familiar members.
3. Hulk hogan is a goner brother. Some loved him some disliked him. That’s the way of the world.[/QUOTE]
:oldlol:
You only know who Cari Champion is because she's black and pretty. That's the only reason ESPN hired her for First Take and that's the only reason she broke onto the public scene. It wasn't for her intelligence.
Since then she's been handed multiple shows and podcasts and none of them were even remotely successful. There is not a single Cari Champion "take" that has ever gone viral. People are only interested in her when she's showing off her body. Outside of that, 99% of her output is basic bitch takes and black grievance culture that you could get from countless others.
[QUOTE=Baller234;15026212]:oldlol:
You only know who Cari Champion is because she's black and pretty. That's the only reason ESPN hired her for First Take and that's the only reason she broke onto the public scene. It wasn't for her intelligence.
Since then she's been handed multiple shows and podcasts and none of them were even remotely successful. There is not a single Cari Champion "take" that has ever gone viral. People are only interested in her when she's showing off her body. Outside of that, 99% of her output is basic bitch takes and black grievance culture that you could get from countless others.[/QUOTE]
You only know Mike Tyson from boxing. Not from his hulk hogan isn’t racist take. And what he thinks a racist is.
Kind of how you sound right now. Stop making this about Acari Champion and whether you like her or not. You made it clear first post on her you’re not a fan. I get it. lol
[QUOTE=GOBB;15026222]You only know Mike Tyson from boxing. Not from his hulk hogan isn’t racist take. And what he thinks a racist is.
Kind of how you sound right now. Stop making this about Acari Champion and whether you like her or not. You made it clear first post on her you’re not a fan. I get it. lol[/QUOTE]
I brought up Tyson because he knows Trump personally and considers him a friend.
His point about Hogan was poignant though. We all say and think terrible shit. Tyson himself admitted that he's said awful things about white people that could be perceived as racist. It doesn't matter. I'm white and I don't give a shit. I already know that every black person is talking shit amongst themselves.
Black people, unlike whites, are openly encouraged in public society to date within their own race. It's not even taboo. You could be watching a basketball game on NBA TV and see a commercial for a black only dating app. When black couples post pictures of themselves on IG, they include #blacklove in the caption.
So even if you wanted to give Hogan's venting the worst possible interpretation, that he doesn't want his daughter dating a black guy under any circumstance, I don't see why this should even be a problem when both sides are guilty of it. But in reality that wasn't even what Hogan was saying so it's a moot point to begin with. If you actually listen to the audio you can hear he has a joking tone. More importantly he says flat out on the tape that he's always willing to make an exception if they're a good person.
It's just that blacks, and wokesters in general, have become so hyper sensitized to anything having to do with race that they stop thinking rationally. And now it's caused so many people to outright dance on a man's grave, a guy who some of them might have even looked up to at one point. Because as we know racism is the most gravest sin of them all. Meanwhile these same people turned George Floyd into a saint.
One day I hope you all see the error in your ways.
Tyson doesn’t even get into politics. He votes for Trump because he considers him a friend. Tyson doesn’t care about anything Trump does not says that impacts society. If you actually watch his interview in full he all but says I only care about me and my family. So why does Tyson not care about what’s said about how Trump is labeled? Because Tyson doesn’t care about the impact on other Americans in society. But most importantly Trump once upon a time defended Mike Tyson during his rape case. Tyson is never going to forget that which is why he really is a Trump supporter and doesn’t care if he’s racist towards others. If he does things that impact the lower class etc etc
Now the true reason behind Trump defending Mike wasn’t because he’s some great guy that loves black people. It was because Mike Tyson got accused of rape when he was boxings biggest cash cow and guess where some of those money fights were? Trump casino in Atlantic City. But hey maybe he watched Tyson’s kids which is why Tyson considers Trump a friend.
What you missed in the video is when he was asked at the end “so you don’t label someone a racist if they have a moment like that. It’s not the be all end all”. To which Tyson replies “I don’t know they could be a racist”. Hahahaha and you conveniently leave this part of Tyson interview out? First we just pretend his example of what a racist is isnt an outdated extreme one. Second he flat out says he doesn’t know if the person who thinks the stuff he said isn’t a racist they could be.
Tyson being the source of any backing is hilarious. He’s matured and grown over the years no question. But he literally said a person could be a racist for thinking racist stuff. Which is what hulk hogan did. You can’t keep trying to spin it. The best you can say is “I don’t think hulk hogan is a racist. And what he said was highly ignorant. I think he sincerely apologized and changed his way of thinking towards the blacks he referred too.”.
That’s all you can say bud.
Booker T said the same thing as Tyson.
GOBB you need to hang the hate up homie. Its not a good look bro, keeping it real mayne.
[QUOTE=Baller234;15026360]
It's just that blacks, and wokesters in general, have become so hyper sensitized to anything having to do with race that they stop thinking rationally.[/QUOTE]
this.
@GOBB
Tyson saying "he could be racist" is valid as well. He put that in there at the end because he's smart enough to realize that no one can know for sure what's really in a man's heart.
The point being that saying something racist doesn't automatically make you a racist. It could, it could not. Tyson himself admits to saying racist shit, it doesn't mean it's reflective of who he really is. You judge someone by their actions. I highly doubt Mike Tyson is a racist that hates white people.
This is a conversation if you can have if you're a grown man.
If someone makes racist comments it is fair for others to deduct that they are racist. That is an act of racism. If they did that but aren't really racist? It's on them.
Also, Mike Tyson, Booker T, Hulk Hogan, etc? Intellectually speaking all these people are complete morons. These are not people who have opinions worth valuing.
[QUOTE=Bill Gates;15026445]If someone makes racist comments it is fair for others to deduct that they are racist. That is an act of racism. If they did that but aren't really racist? It's on them.[/QUOTE]
Not if we live in a society with double standards.
"white men can't jump".... is that a racist comment?
"black men can't swim" ..... is that a racist comment?
Muhammad Ali was pro segregation... he did not want his children to procreate with the white race.
A white man says that and he's a racist.
Double Standards all over the place.
[QUOTE=Doomsday Dallas;15026455]Not if we live in a society with double standards.
"white men can't jump".... is that a racist comment?
"black men can't swim" ..... is that a racist comment?
Muhammad Ali was pro segregation... he did not want his children to procreate with the white race.
A white man says that and he's a racist.
Double Standards all over the place.[/QUOTE]
The top two are harmless in comparison to Hulk's comments. The Muhammad Ali stuff is very racist though yes.
Double Standards are going to be found in everything. You could probably find them at home with who does chores and who doesn't. It isn't a legit reason to declare anything right or wrong. If you go out and murder a black man, you can not point to OJ Simpson and say "double standard!"
[QUOTE=Bill Gates;15026460]The top two are harmless in comparison to Hulk's comments. [B]The Muhammad Ali stuff is very racist though yes.[/B]
Double Standards are going to be found in everything. You could probably find them at home with who does chores and who doesn't. It isn't a legit reason to declare anything right or wrong. If you go out and murder a black man, you can not point to OJ Simpson and say "double standard!"[/QUOTE]
So are you telling me that one of the most revered and idolized athletes in history was also an evil racist?
I thought your side was against racism. Why hasn't anyone mentioned this? Why is Ali continued to be celebrated?
This has become a default for society when defending someone's wrong doings. To look for a way to find hypocrisy or double standards somewhere else in the past. People on every end of the political spectrum is guilty of this. But it's a garbage way to justify anything. Hulk made some outrageous comments that offended a lot of people, and those comments ended up sticking with him for his entire life. They were a black-eye on him as a human being. Maybe Ali should have been demonized, IDK. But his situation is completely separate. Also, life is unfair.
Any of you who think you have a chance at being anything upstanding in life should stray from making racist comments on the internet. It simply is not worth the pointless debate.
So the moral of the story is that Bill Gates is perfectly fine being a hypocrite and applying double standards in society.
Bill Gates does not want the races treated equally.
[QUOTE=Baller234;15026465]So the moral of the story is that Bill Gates is perfectly fine being a hypocrite and applying double standards in society.
Bill Gates does not want the races treated equally.[/QUOTE]
If that is the moral of this debate to you, well then you're pretty damn dumb lol
[QUOTE=Bill Gates;15026466]If that is the moral of this debate to you, well then you're pretty damn dumb lol[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bill Gates;15026460]The top two are harmless in comparison to Hulk's comments. The Muhammad Ali stuff is very racist though yes.
[B][SIZE=4]Double Standards are going to be found in everything.[/SIZE][/B] You could probably find them at home with who does chores and who doesn't. [B][SIZE=4]It isn't a legit reason to declare anything right or wrong.[/SIZE][/B] If you go out and murder a black man, you can not point to OJ Simpson and say "double standard!"[/QUOTE]
It's not right or wrong to have double standards.
This is what you said.
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[QUOTE=Baller234;15026469]It's not right or wrong to have double standards.
This is what you said.[/QUOTE]
It isn't a "REASON" to declare anything right or wrong.
As in, because "person X" got away with saying racist crap (Ali for example), doesn't mean that Hulk's comments were okay.
[video=youtube_share;zq7rgl3VyLU]https://youtu.be/zq7rgl3VyLU[/video]
[QUOTE=Bill Gates;15026473]It isn't a "REASON" to declare anything right or wrong.
As in, because "person X" got away with saying racist crap (Ali for example), doesn't mean that Hulk's comments were okay.[/QUOTE]
But clearly people think Ali's racism is okay because I've never ever heard anyone condemn him for it. I've only ever see him celebrated.
So if they're both racist, why isn't the treatment the same?
[QUOTE=Doomsday Dallas;15026476][video=youtube_share;zq7rgl3VyLU]https://youtu.be/zq7rgl3VyLU[/video][/QUOTE]
Wow, I have never seen this. That says a lot. I've never even seen this talked about.
By GOBB's and Bill Gates standards, this should be enough to condemn Ali as a vile racist.
[QUOTE=Baller234;15026477]But clearly people think Ali's racism is okay because I've never ever heard anyone condemn him for it. I've only ever see him celebrated.
So if they're both racist, why isn't the treatment the same?[/QUOTE]
People generally don't know about Ali's racist comments, but his racism was excused because he was a black man living in the civil rights era.
Lots of celebs have gotten away with saying racist crap. That doesn't excuse Hulk. I mean, because Ali got away with it we are now to excuse everyone else going forward to prevent a double standard? no
Life is unfair snowflake.
FWIW, I do not think Ali's comments would fly at all in 2025.
[QUOTE=tpols;15026439]Booker T said the same thing as Tyson.
GOBB you need to hang the hate up homie. Its not a good look bro, keeping it real mayne.[/QUOTE]
Shake you’re this dense to ignore when Tyson was asked if that makes a person racist or not (what hulk hogan said). And he clearly says “I don’t know”. lol I think you dudes just post for a quick dopamine hit. Don’t care if you make sense or not.
I do chuckle at how white males cry over double standards and “if you can say whites can’t jump then I should be able to call you the n words!”. It’s not fair. Even though this country is ran by white men. The privilege you have to still want more. The audacity. “Not fair”. Makes me wonder if hulk hogan influenced you in more ways than we know lol But I digress
It's become the defacto way of debating. Oh someone I like did something wrong? Let me scour over all of mankind's history to find an example of a double standard so I can cry foul!
[QUOTE=GOBB;15026486]I do chuckle at how white males cry over double standards and “if you can say whites can’t jump then I should be able to call you the n words!”. It’s not fair. Even though this country is ran by white men. The privilege you have to still want more. The audacity. “Not fair”. Makes me wonder if hulk hogan influenced you in more ways than we know lol But I digress[/QUOTE]
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I'm sorry GOBB, but it looks like your victim card has expired.
[QUOTE=Bill Gates;15026480]People generally don't know about Ali's racist comments, but his racism was excused because he was a black man living in the civil rights era.
Lots of celebs have gotten away with saying racist crap. That doesn't excuse Hulk. I mean, because Ali got away with it we are now to excuse everyone else going forward to prevent a double standard? no
Life is unfair snowflake.[/QUOTE]
So then I was right. You're perfectly fine with others applying unfair double standards.
Why did you deny it when I called you out?
[QUOTE=GOBB;15026486]I do chuckle at how white males cry over double standards and “if you can say whites can’t jump then I should be able to call you the n words!”. It’s not fair. Even though this country is ran by white men. The privilege you have to still want more. The audacity. “Not fair”. Makes me wonder if hulk hogan influenced you in more ways than we know lol But I digress[/QUOTE]
Wow, you're folding like an emotional bitch now.
[QUOTE=Bill Gates;15026489]It's become the defacto way of debating. Oh someone I like did something wrong? Let me scour over all of mankind's history to find an example of a double standard so I can cry foul![/QUOTE]
No you retard, the point is that we all have an obligation to hold other men to equal standards.
The fact that white people can say something "racist" and be forever demonized, while black people can say whatever the hell they want without having to worry... is evidence of an unfair double standard. Either you call it out or you condone it.
Clearly you condone it. Like you said... "life isn't fair."
You're really nothing but a giant lying hypocrite. :oldlol:
3tard is likely the forum's biggest retard but Bill Gates has to be the biggest liar.
Lies about having a fake wife and kids, lies about what he believes, denies facts when you call him out on it.
Most if not all of the board libs are dishonest and argue in bad faith but Bill Gates is the most shameless of them.
FOUR posts in a row by bawler :roll:
[QUOTE=Doomsday Dallas;15026492][img]https://makerworld.bblmw.com/makerworld/model/US83c29f79c96941/design/2024-09-19_55c6516056ede.jpg[/img]
I'm sorry GOBB, but it looks like your victim card has expired.[/QUOTE]
I’m a victim for calling out white men crying about not being able to say the n word and why a double standard exists? Lol ok
[QUOTE=Baller234;15026503]Wow, you're folding like an emotional bitch now.[/QUOTE]
This reply reeks of someone being emotional. Remember your replies in here are about how emotional you became because some called Hulk Hogan your idol a racist instead of offering condolences and praising his legacy in wrestling. You admitted as such in this thread. Whole time I said I couldn’t care less about whether hogan was or wasn’t racist. So tread carefully with the emptional bitch stuff when you qualify for such a label based on your replies here bud. I’m just saying…
What is funny is that Doomsday is actually the one playing the victim card in here and crying foul.
Baller: "THERE IS A DOUBLE STANDARD SEE!!!!!!"
me: yes, but Hulk was still a racist
Baller; "LIAR!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU'RE A RACIST!!!!!!!!!!"