Chuck Schumer:
[I]the longer it stays shutdown, the better it is for us[/I]
Not sure who the "us" is but it clearly shows he's putting politics over the people.
[url]https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5547212-democrats-blamed-for-shutdown/[/url]
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Chuck Schumer:
[I]the longer it stays shutdown, the better it is for us[/I]
Not sure who the "us" is but it clearly shows he's putting politics over the people.
[url]https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5547212-democrats-blamed-for-shutdown/[/url]
It doesn't matter if illegals are voting or they aren't, having and presenting a voter ID should be the standard for all 50 states.
Anyone advocating otherwise is extremely suspect.
Yes, Illegal Aliens Get Medicaid and ObamaCare—Protecting That is Why Democrats Shut Down the Government
October 16, 2025
[url]https://thefga.org/blog/yes-illegal-aliens-get-medicaid-and-obamacare-protecting-that-is-why-democrats-shut-down-the-government/[/url]
[QUOTE=bladefd;15037588]He and Zen are morons who have no idea what it takes it takes to register to vote.
I had to provide more than one piece of evidence to register. I provided my photo ID and ss number. [B]Both can verify citizenship upon access on system[/B], so either would work. When I voted, I had to sign to match the signature I registered with. There's no same-day registration in my state AFAIK. If someone registered without ID, they are required to provide copy of one of the following to verify name/address in the system:
NJ drivers license or non-driver ID
U.S. passport
Military or government ID
Bank statement
Utility bill
Paycheck or government check
Any government document showing your name and address
Can an illegal person get these things? Perhaps theoretically can open a bank account for bank statement or own/rent a house in their official name for utility bill or paycheck.
Lets say someone did get that non-photo ID. Are large numbers going to risk felony charges? On the voter registration form, they would have to lie about being US citizen. While being illegal and potential to get thrown out of the country, mind you. They risk instant deportation, prison, and may permanently prohibit them from getting green card or citizenship in the future if there's a pathway. Illegals typically stay far away from any such risks. They are going to risk everything for a vote?
Lets say they lied there too. Next, the county runs a check of your name across DMV, SS, and jury duty databases to verify that you are in one of the systems. If you aren't, county flags you for further checks, which you likely won't pass.
It would take someone insane to attempt all this for a single vote.[/QUOTE]
I didn't say anything about the 2020 election, that was you and RMWG. If many millions are deported over the next few years you're going to need a miracle in the future by turning republicans into democrats. The Biden admin were giving them SSNs and those illegal immigrants would have received amnesty and turned into voting citizens had dems remained in power. Hell, RMWG even thought 500.000 Venezuelans had already been so, referring to them as legal citizens earlier in this very thread.
That being said, can you prove the bolded in your statement, that if an illegal tries to vote in NJ, election officials will reject them because they're notified as it happens?
And if that's true, wouldn't you agree that it's a great safe guard when the election officials can see if the person voting isn't a citizen so they can stop it?
[QUOTE=ZenMaster;15037767]I didn't say anything about the 2020 election, that was you and RMWG.[/QUOTE]And Trump, who is the reason why this is being discussed. You can go back to your bullshitting, just wanted to point that out.
I forgot who said it but it's so true.
It was something along the lines of... "the fundamental rule of being a lefty is pretending to not understand things".
[QUOTE=Baller234;15037778]I forgot who said it but it's so true.
It was something along the lines of... "the fundamental rule of being a lefty is pretending to not understand things".[/QUOTE]
Real Men Love Illegals isn't pretending... he's just a retard with TDS.
[QUOTE=Baller234;15037778]I forgot who said it but it's so true.
It was something along the lines of... [B]"the fundamental rule of being a lefty is pretending to not understand things"[/B].[/QUOTE]
Seems like you'd make natural allies with them then.
[QUOTE=ZenMaster;15037767]Hell, RMWG even thought 500.000 Venezuelans had already been so, referring to them as legal citizens earlier in this very thread.[/QUOTE]I hadn't bothered to read this far when I replied before but it should be pointed out that this lying asshole is lying again. I didn't say they were legal citizens I said that they were here legally and they were until Trump had their protected status revoked so that he could declare them to be illegal. You're too shameless with the bullshitting.
[QUOTE=ZenMaster;15037767]I didn't say anything about the 2020 election, that was you and RMWG. If many millions are deported over the next few years you're going to need a miracle in the future by turning republicans into democrats. The Biden admin were giving them SSNs and those illegal immigrants would have received amnesty and turned into voting citizens had dems remained in power. Hell, RMWG even thought 500.000 Venezuelans had already been so, referring to them as legal citizens earlier in this very thread.
That being said, can you prove the bolded in your statement, that if an illegal tries to vote in NJ, election officials will reject them because they're notified as it happens?
And if that's true, wouldn't you agree that it's a great safe guard when the election officials can see if the person voting isn't a citizen so they can stop it?[/QUOTE]
There was no pathway to citizenship for those illegals to become US citizens. Even if you get an SS number, you won't show up as an US citizen in the system when the county runs a check on your name when you register to vote.
Does amnesty give them path to citizenship? Perhaps you know something I don't. Link me to a source, and I will admit to being wrong if amnesty would have led illegals to become citizens.
The county maintains a voter database.
[QUOTE]Statewide database: New Jersey keeps a central database of all registered voters. You can use the state's online portal to check your status at any time.
County-level oversight: Each county's election office—often the Board of Elections or the Commissioner of Registration—is responsible for the day-to-day management of voter records within its jurisdiction. This includes:
-Processing new registrations.
-Updating voter information, such as name or address changes.
-Verifying eligibility and removing ineligible voters from the rolls.[/QUOTE]
When you go to register, the county automatically runs your name in their databases. If someone isn't found in any database, they are flagged. The election office runs manual checks on the flagged people. I don't know exactly what happens if the office can't verify someone through any database. I don't know how every state does it.
[QUOTE=Baller234;15037778]I forgot who said it but it's so true.
It was something along the lines of... "the fundamental rule of being a lefty is pretending to not understand things".[/QUOTE]
Fits like a glove. You have to be extremely intellectually dishonest to prop up a lot of their talking points.
[QUOTE=warriorfan;15037840]Fits like a glove. You have to be extremely intellectually dishonest to prop up a lot of their talking points.[/QUOTE]
Look at how HIGHwhey ignores crime and laughs at people when they point to life real life examples of people being killed.
All because he feels obligated to cosplay as a woke revolutionary.
[QUOTE=Baller234;15037898]Look at how HIGHwhey ignores crime and laughs at people when they point to life real life examples of people being killed.
All because he feels obligated to cosplay as a woke revolutionary.[/QUOTE]
Well highwhey isn’t being intellectually dishonest he’s actually that stupid legitimately.
[QUOTE=Hey Yo;15037616]Chuck Schumer:
[I]the longer it stays shutdown, the better it is for us[/I]
Not sure who the "us" is [b]but it clearly shows he's putting politics over the people. [/b]
[url]https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5547212-democrats-blamed-for-shutdown/[/url][/QUOTE]
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Republicans hate government so shutting it down is their wet dream.
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[url]https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5547212-democrats-blamed-for-shutdown/[/url]
Chuck Schumer:
[I]the longer it stays shutdown, the better it is for us[/I]
[url]https://thefga.org/blog/yes-illegal-aliens-get-medicaid-and-obamacare-protecting-that-is-why-democrats-shut-down-the-government/[/url]
[QUOTE=Hey Yo;15037978][url]https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5547212-democrats-blamed-for-shutdown/[/url]
Chuck Schumer:
[I]the longer it stays shutdown, the better it is for us[/I]
[url]https://thefga.org/blog/yes-illegal-aliens-get-medicaid-and-obamacare-protecting-that-is-why-democrats-shut-down-the-government/[/url][/QUOTE]
FGA - lol.
A) emergency room medical care was ruled on by the Supreme Court ages ago.
B) it is against the law for illegal immigrants to get Medicaid.
[i]Federal law restrictions: The Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Act (PRWORA) of 1996 prohibits undocumented immigrants from accessing most federal public benefits, including Medicare and Medicaid, except for some emergency services.
Proof of eligibility: To enroll in Medicare, individuals must prove their U.S. citizenship or qualified legal residency. Undocumented immigrants, by definition, cannot satisfy this requirement.[/i]
Notice you didn’t comment on what I posted.
Neither paying the troops, or protecting pedos.
Chuck Schumer:
[I]the longer it stays shutdown, the better it is for us[/I]
That's ^^^^^ why the troops aren't getting paid, chico.... politics (your boys) over the people.
[QUOTE=Hey Yo;15038110]Chuck Schumer:
[I]the longer it stays shutdown, the better it is for us[/I]
That's ^^^^^ why the troops aren't getting paid, chico.... politics (your boys) over the people.[/QUOTE]
No zeppo, as it says they’ve introduced a bill to pay the troops. Your people hate the military.
21st day of the shutdown, it's been voted down 11x now and Schumer still claiming this is a good thing for the Dems.
[QUOTE=Hey Yo;15038416]21st day of the shutdown, it's been voted down 11x now and Schumer still claiming this is a good thing for the Dems.[/QUOTE]
[i] "In my opinion, I hear the Democrats are gonna be blamed, I hear Republicans are gonna be blamed, I actually think the president would be blamed," he said. "If there is a shutdown ... I think it would be a tremendously negative mark on the president of the United States. He's the one that has to get people together." - Donald Trump[/i]
[QUOTE=Chick Stern;15038530][i] "In my opinion, I hear the Democrats are gonna be blamed, I hear Republicans are gonna be blamed, I actually think the president would be blamed," he said. "If there is a shutdown ... I think it would be a tremendously negative mark on the president of the United States. He's the one that has to get people together." - Donald Trump[/i][/QUOTE]
[video]https://www.youtube.com/shorts/EfPSg3h6HXw[/video]
Trump's people are together on this. Only 5 Dems needed to vote yes, but Schumer's instructed his people to vote no.
Schumer was the deciding yes vote back in March cause he said it's what's good for the people. Now he's doing the opposite cause he thinks that's what's good for his political future, not caring about the people.
Chuck first and the people last is why the Democrat shutdown continues to move forward.
[QUOTE=Off the Court;15038533][video]https://www.youtube.com/shorts/EfPSg3h6HXw[/video][/QUOTE]
2011 lol
[QUOTE=Hey Yo;15038537]2011 lol[/QUOTE]
What difference does that make?
"I think it would be a tremendously negative mark on the president of the United States. He's the one that has to get people together."
"Needs to get people together"
Says the GOAT DIVIDER. :oldlol:
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[QUOTE=Hey Yo;15038110]Chuck Schumer:
[I]the longer it stays shutdown, the better it is for us[/I]
That's ^^^^^ why the troops aren't getting paid, chico.... politics (your boys) over the people.[/QUOTE]
Troops are getting paid. Go look it up. It's from DoD's r+d funds
Democrat Whip Rep. Katherine Clark: "Shutdowns are terrible. Of course there will be families that are going to suffer. [b]We take that responsibility seriously, but it is one of the few leverage times we have."[/b]
[url]https://x.com/greg_price11/status/1981030242513809641?s=19[/url]
A high-ranking Democrat appears to have admitted an inconvenient truth about the government shutdown that has officially entered its fourth week.
Massachusetts Representative Katherine Clark, who is the Minority Whip of the United States House of Representatives, admitted that she views families struggling during the shutdown as 'leverage' for her party to use in political games.
'Shutdowns are terrible. And of course there will be families that are going to suffer. We take that responsibility very seriously, but it is one of the few leverage times we have,' Clark said.
Wisconsin Republican Congressman Derrick Van Orden wrote on X, 'This is exactly what Chuck Schumer meant when he said, "Every day gets better for us."'
[url]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15216457/Top-Dem-admits-shutdown-leverage.html[/url]
Senate just voted down to pay essential federal workers and military.
[QUOTE=Hey Yo;15038990]Democrat Whip Rep. Katherine Clark: "Shutdowns are terrible. Of course there will be families that are going to suffer. We take that responsibility seriously, but it is one of the few leverage times we have."
[url]https://x.com/greg_price11/status/1981030242513809641?s=19[/url]
A high-ranking Democrat appears to have admitted an inconvenient truth about the government shutdown that has officially entered its fourth week.
[B]Massachusetts Representative Katherine Clark, who is the Minority Whip of the United States House of Representatives, admitted that she views families struggling during the shutdown as 'leverage' for her party to use in political games.[/B]
'Shutdowns are terrible. And of course there will be families that are going to suffer. We take that responsibility very seriously, but it is one of the few leverage times we have,' Clark said.
Wisconsin Republican Congressman Derrick Van Orden wrote on X, 'This is exactly what Chuck Schumer meant when he said, "Every day gets better for us."'
[url]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15216457/Top-Dem-admits-shutdown-leverage.html[/url][/QUOTE]
What's the alternative? Allow everyone's annual insurance premiums to increase by 118%? Do you support that after historic taxcuts that Republicans rushed quickly through and 150 billion for ICE (among others but these were the two big things in the Big & Beautiful bill)?
Should Government shutdows trigger an election. If both sudes are equally confident that the other side will be blamed or their policy is popular than take it to the people
[QUOTE=MMM;15039209]Should Government shutdows trigger an election. If both sudes are equally confident that the other side will be blamed or their policy is popular than take it to the people[/QUOTE]
It would result in a blue wave across the line :oldlol:
[QUOTE=MMM;15039209]Should Government shutdows trigger an election. If both sudes are equally confident that the other side will be blamed or their policy is popular than take it to the people[/QUOTE]
LOL - we had an election [B]less than a year ago[/B] - it's not like Trump didn't campaign on many of the things he's done.
[QUOTE=rmt;15039247]LOL - we had an election [B]less than a year ago[/B] - it's not like Trump didn't campaign on many of the things he's done.[/QUOTE]
He should have been given a bigger mandate. An election would either led to 1 side compromising or getting punished at the polla but either way the govermwnt would function better
[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green;15037792]I hadn't bothered to read this far when I replied before but it should be pointed out that this lying asshole is lying again. I didn't say they were legal citizens I said that they were here legally and they were until Trump had their protected status revoked so that he could declare them to be illegal. You're too shameless with the bullshitting.[/QUOTE]
It's called Temporary Protected Status and the Biden admin misused this to get as many illegals into the country as possible. You could argue that people should go to jail for this, but better to just focus on getting the illegal immigrants out of the country.
[QUOTE=bladefd;15037835]There was no pathway to citizenship for those illegals to become US citizens. Even if you get an SS number, you won't show up as an US citizen in the system when the county runs a check on your name when you register to vote.
Does amnesty give them path to citizenship? Perhaps you know something I don't. Link me to a source, and I will admit to being wrong if amnesty would have led illegals to become citizens.[/QUOTE]
If dems would've still been in charge, I'm sure that along with uniparty repubs they would've found numerous ways to provide pathways to citizenship. Much of the reasoning to provide citizenship is the same as currently used to say they shouldn't be deported(been here long time, part of the community, good for the country etc) and they had already started this in 2024:
[QUOTE]President Joe Biden on Tuesday announced a new effort to provide a path to citizenship to hundreds of thousands of immigrants in the U.S. illegally who are married to U.S. citizens, an election-year move that contrasts sharply with Republican rival Donald Trump's plan for mass deportations.[/QUOTE]
[URL="https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden-offers-path-citizenship-spouses-us-citizens-election-year-gambit-2024-06-18/"]https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden-offers-path-citizenship-spouses-us-citizens-election-year-gambit-2024-06-18/[/URL]
[QUOTE]The county maintains a voter database.
When you go to register, the county automatically runs your name in their databases. If someone isn't found in any database, they are flagged. The election office runs manual checks on the flagged people. I don't know exactly what happens if the office can't verify someone through any database. I don't know how every state does it.[/QUOTE]
In Minnesota you're automatically registered if you have a drivers license, and all residents in the state can get a drivers license. These are both new laws made in 2024. So now when you go to vote you just have to show your drivers license and then if there's discrepancy with your address, maybe a name change that wasn't updated, or if you're an illegal immigrant, you get a document to sign stating that you're a citizen residing in Minnesota, but you aren't actually prevented from voting which doesn't make sense.
[QUOTE=ZenMaster;15039594]
If dems would've still been in charge, I'm sure that along with uniparty repubs they would've found numerous ways to provide pathways to citizenship. Much of the reasoning to provide citizenship is the same as currently used to say they shouldn't be deported(been here long time, part of the community, good for the country etc) and they had already started this in 2024:
[URL="https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden-offers-path-citizenship-spouses-us-citizens-election-year-gambit-2024-06-18/"]https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden-offers-path-citizenship-spouses-us-citizens-election-year-gambit-2024-06-18/[/URL]
In Minnesota you're automatically registered if you have a drivers license, and all residents in the state can get a drivers license. These are both new laws made in 2024. So now when you go to vote you just have to show your drivers license and then if there's discrepancy with your address, maybe a name change that wasn't updated, or if you're an illegal immigrant, you get a document to sign stating that you're a citizen residing in Minnesota, but you aren't actually prevented from voting which doesn't make sense.[/QUOTE]
Democrats have been in charge plenty of times. Do you think the party just started yesterday? They had plenty of opportunities to push through a pathway to citizenship, but they knew it wouldn't get through.
As for the second, if an illegal is married to an US citizen, why is it wrong to allow that individual to become citizen? My cousin married my cousin-in-law from Japan (citizen of Japan), and she became an US citizen in a year. Why should it be different for illegals? It should only be illegal if it's a money-based marriage. I believe such cases are looked into if suspected, especially if they aren't living together.
I'm not sure about Minnesota or other states. I haven't looked into every state to see what all of their requirements are. Perhaps someone else here has or perhaps there's an in-depth article that looks into all 50 states? Still, that doesn't prove that massive national voting fraud happens every election. It shouldn't be that difficult for the US government to prove on a state-by-state basis. Trump tried hard in 2020, but he & his lawyers got laughed out of courts for lack of evidence.
I'm unsure what you're even arguing at this point. Is it possible in some states for an illegal to find a way to vote? Probably yes. Now, the next question is: has it been proven? No. Without proving that's it's a widespread phenomena with hard evidence, what difference does any of it make? Trump cried election fraud in 2016 after he beat Hillary and created a committee to investigate (wasn't Pence in charge?). That got nowhere. He cried in 2020 while he was president and spent tens of millions, only for Rudy and company to get laughed out for lack of evidence. He cried again after winning in 2024. Three times, and he won two of those elections. It sounds to me like the boy who cried wolf. And you sound like the boogie man.
It took this assclown 10 days to reply that a bunch of people the government told were hear legally are actually here illegally, just that the government was breaking the law. Fortunately for him there is no law against being full of shit but I am going to declare that 10-day wait makes your bullshit officially·stale.
[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green;15039623]It took this assclown 10 days to reply that a bunch of people the government told were hear legally are actually here illegally, just that the government was breaking the law. Fortunately for him there is no law against being full of shit but I am going to declare that 10-day wait makes your bullshit officially·stale.[/QUOTE]
Whatever BS reason they came up with in 2023 to give all those Venezuelans and Haitians that Temporary Protected Status no longer applies and so they have to go back home.
[QUOTE=bladefd;15039617]Democrats have been in charge plenty of times. Do you think the party just started yesterday? They had plenty of opportunities to push through a pathway to citizenship, but they knew it wouldn't get through.[/QUOTE]
Doesn't matter how you try to deflect, they introduced a new pathway to citizenship just last year. Here's Chuck Schumer laying it out clearly that all illegal immigrants should get citizenship.
[video=youtube_share;grwnbk6lxdo]https://youtu.be/grwnbk6lxdo[/video]
[QUOTE]As for the second, if an illegal is married to an US citizen, why is it wrong to allow that individual to become citizen? My cousin married my cousin-in-law from Japan (citizen of Japan), and she became an US citizen in a year. Why should it be different for illegals? It should only be illegal if it's a money-based marriage. I believe such cases are looked into if suspected, especially if they aren't living together.[/QUOTE]
A blanket rule like that would open up for all kinds of human trafficking and fraud. Also, you shouldn't be rewarded for breaking the law for 10 years just because you got married.
[QUOTE]I'm unsure what you're even arguing at this point.[/QUOTE]
I was saying that the Democrat party is in demise due to plummeting birth rates and all those illegal immigrants who will be deported instead of counting towards seats in congress and potentially as future voters.
[QUOTE]Whatever BS reason they came up with in 2023 to give all those Venezuelans and Haitians that Temporary Protected Status no longer applies and so they have to go back home.[/QUOTE]
I tried to explain to Real Men Loves Illegals that things change when new administration's take over. He saw examples like stopping the building of the border wall and when the keystone pipeline construction was stopped by Biden. He had no problems.
Now the shoe is on the other foot and he's crying like a bitch. If ya don't like it, don't let the border door hit ya in the ass. Go join Rosie O'Donnell wherever TF she went to live with her TDS.