Age trends: The average age of NCAA players has been increasing. For example, the average age of a Sweet 16 starter was 20.8 in 2019 and climbed to 21.6 in 2025.
A full year. Wonder why?:facepalm
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Age trends: The average age of NCAA players has been increasing. For example, the average age of a Sweet 16 starter was 20.8 in 2019 and climbed to 21.6 in 2025.
A full year. Wonder why?:facepalm
[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;15038054]Already posted it. If you arent going to pay attention why should i bother schooling you?[/QUOTE]
Covid? Lol being older doesn't matter if you suck.
The players good enough to get drafted were older in 2007 than they were this year.
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For the 2024-2025 season, the average NCAA men's basketball player is approximately 3 to 4 years older than Kevin Durant was during his freshman year in 2006–2007.
The average age of NCAA men's basketball players has been steadily rising due to rule changes.
In the 2023–2024 season, the average age was about 21.3 years old, and it has since risen even further.
For the 2024–2025 season, the average age of a player is projected to be between 21 and 22 years old.
This contrasts sharply with Durant's era, when most elite freshmen like him were already declaring for the NBA draft after just one year of college.
[QUOTE=tontoz;15038056]Covid? Lol being older doesn't matter if you suck.
The players good enough to get drafted were older in 2007 than they were this year.
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That is a handful of players as you say. Most college players arent drafted. Some of the best ones. You can be great in college in nor be drafted. Wgich is why ace agaonst kd, sengun, wemby etc. Means more than against ncaa players
[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;15038058].
This contrasts sharply with Durant's era, when most elite freshmen like him were already declaring for the NBA draft after just one year of college.[/QUOTE]
:roll:
There were 8 freshmen in the draft that year compared to 14 this year.
The extra year due to covid applies to all players, most of whom suck anyway. That isn't making the NCAA more competitive.
[QUOTE=tontoz;15038060]:roll:
There were 8 freshmen in the draft that year compared to 14 this year.
The extra year due to covid applies to all players, most of whom suck anyway. That isn't making the NCAA more competitive.[/QUOTE]
Older players are better. Not sure how you can argue otherwise. Oh yeah ish :cheers:
[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;15038065]Older players are better. Not sure how you can argue otherwise. Oh yeah ish :cheers:[/QUOTE]
There were only 5 upper class men in the first round this year compared to 13 in 2007. The best players stayed in school longer back then.
Being older doesn't matter if you are a scrub which most players are . The average age metric includes guys who don't even play.
[QUOTE=tontoz;15038066]There were only 5 upper class men in the first round this year compared to 13 in 2007.
Being older doesn't matter if you are a scrub which most players are . The average age metric includes guys who don't even play.[/QUOTE]
I know. Superstars, scrubs and prjects. No in betweens!
1 freshman in top 10 players last season. Why? Experience maybe?:facepalm
[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;15038069]I know. Superstars, scrubs and prjects. No in betweens!
1 freshman in top 10 players last season. Why? Experience maybe?:facepalm[/QUOTE]
Huh? There were 4 freshmen drafted in the top 10 last year in addition to the teenagers playing overseas or on ignite.
The only upper classman in the top 10 was Edey.
[QUOTE=tontoz;15038074]Huh? There were 4 freshmen drafted in the top 10 last year in addition to the teenagers playing overseas or on ignite.
The only upper classman in the top 10 was Edey.[/QUOTE]
You seem to be confused by best college players and best nba prospects. 1 freshman was all american. Lower upside the older you get. Younger more upside. More bust potential. Projects like you say.
[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;15038078]You seem to be confused by best college players and best nba prospects. 1 freshman was all american. Lower upside the older you get. Younger more upside. More bust potential. Projects like you say.[/QUOTE]
And the best prospects declare for the draft earlier now than they did 20 years ago, making the college game weaker.
We will probably never see a comp for Horford/Noah, junior teammates going top 10.
We drafted a one and done player at 24 last year who will probably be our best player this year. He would surely dominate in college if he stayed.
[QUOTE=tontoz;15038079]And the best prospects declare for the draft earlier now than they did 20 years ago, making the college game weaker.
We will probably never see a comp for Horford/Noah, junior teammates going top 10.
We drafted a one and done player at 24 last year who will probably be our best player this year. He would surely dominate in college if he stayed.[/QUOTE]
Noah horford were exceptions not the rule.
[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;15038080]Noah horford were exceptions not the rule.[/QUOTE]
There were 13 upper classmen in the first round in 2007. Only 5 last year. I think I see a trend.
But a 5th year senior riding the bench makes the NCAA tougher now, right? :lol
[QUOTE=tontoz;15038081]There were 13 upper classmen in the first round in 2007. Only 5 last year. I think I see a trend.
But a 5th year senior riding the bench makes the NCAA tougher now, right? :lol[/QUOTE]
3 graduate senior all americans. Players 1 year older than just 6 years earlier. Best players transferring to best conferences. More players withdrawing from draft to return to school.
[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;15038082]3 graduate senior all americans. Players 1 year older than just 6 years earlier. Best players transferring to best conferences. More players withdrawing from draft to return to school.[/QUOTE]
Just out of curiosity I looked at the 2006 draft. There were only 2 freshmen in the entire first round. that would never happen in this era.
And yet players were younger
[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;15038087]And yet players were younger[/QUOTE]
Right, the 5th year senior on the bench makes the competition so much tougher.
:roll:
Of course they are on the bench because freshman are better than 5th year seniors :roll:
[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;15038089]Of course they are on the bench because freshman are better than 5th year seniors :roll:[/QUOTE]
There are over 5000 players in division 1 basketball, the vast majority of whom are irrelevant to evaluating NBA prospects.
They guys who actually are NBA prospects are far more likely to declare for the draft after one year now than they were 20 years ago.
[QUOTE=tontoz;15038090]There are over 5000 players in division 1 basketball, the vast majority of whom are irrelevant to evaluating NBA prospects.
They guys who actually are NBA prospects are far more likely to declare for the draft after one year now than they were 20 years ago.[/QUOTE]
Didnt know we were evaluating nba prospects. Thought you were arguing that college basketball isnt better today with much older players
[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;15038092]Didnt know we were evaluating nba prospects. Thought you were arguing that college basketball isnt better today with much older players[/QUOTE]
This is a NBA forum and we are evaluating NBA prospects. You are trying to argue that players being slightly older somehow makes the league tougher for Ace than it was for Durant. You were the one who started all this nonsense.
I say that the ages of thousands of NCAA players are irrelevant because they didn't even play against Ace and if they did they wouldn't be able to defend him regardless of how old they are.
The best players, who might have a chance against him, are more likely to turn pro now than they were 20 years ago.
[QUOTE=tontoz;15038095]This is a NBA forum and we are evaluating NBA prospects. You are trying to argue that players being slightly older somehow makes the league tougher for Ace than it was for Durant. You were the one who started all this nonsense.
I say that the ages of thousands of NCAA players are irrelevant because they didn't even play against Ace and if they did they wouldn't be able to defend him regardless of how old they are.
The best players, who might have a chance against him, are more likely to turn pro now than they were 20 years ago.[/QUOTE]
Not slightly older. A year older in the last 6. That is a lot at that age . Someone must have defended him. Rutgers wasnt good despite him and harper. Maybe because they were only freshman playing against older players?
A lot of the best defenders in college arent nba players. Have to be able to sgoot too
[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;15038096]Not slightly older. A year older in the last 6. That is a lot at that age . Someone must have defended him. Rutgers wasnt good despite him and harper. Maybe because they were only freshman playing against older players?[/QUOTE]
You are acting like that is something new. That has never changed. That is why Calipari struggled at UK with all his one and done players.Getting an extra year due to covid isn't going to make a hill of beans difference when guarding NBA players.
How was Tre Johnson able to lead the toughest conference in scoring if it was so tough?
Alabama was a strong defensive team with plenty of upper class men but that didn't stop Harper from shredding them.
Rutgers struggled because the rest of the team just wasn't any good.
Rutgers lost to Kennesaw State.
[QUOTE=GOBB;15038101]Rutgers lost to Kennesaw State.[/QUOTE]
Should have played some 5th year seniors
[QUOTE=GOBB;15038101]Rutgers lost to Kennesaw State.[/QUOTE]
Ace was 6-17 that game with 1 rebound, no assists and 3 turnovers. Not exactly a Mt Rushmore game.
Does ncaa pre season mean as little as nba pre season? Im sure the tankers were pating attention
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You have to watch a guy for a few games to actually get a read on him. I haven't watched AJ much but when I did I wasn't that impressed. Maybe it's because he's gotta so much hype and my expectations were too high.
I think his jumper is a question mark. He is aggressive taking it to the rim and likes to bully guys but I wonder what he will do when that doesn't work.
Ace really had 3 different seasons at Rutgers. His first third of the season was bad, to the point that I didn't even have him top 5. The middle third he was very good. Then the last third he was bad again. People tended to see what they wanted to see with him. Whatever their take was prior to the season they looked for things to back that up.
I will see plenty of aj. Scored from 3 levels last night.
Jazz probably need the pg at kansas actually though but they will be at all of ajs home games for sure!
Peterson is better than AJ. I just saw more jump out at me when I watched them play. AJ and Ace pairing Im skeptical how that works. Only because neither to me have shown much of a playmaking skillset. Do they need that to coexist? Maybe not but I think so.
Peterson at least has better playmaking ability than both. I’d need to see how he runs a team for a season in college if I’m comfortable with him being my guy at PG. Maxey plays PG but he’s so much better when he’s not due to his scoring ability. Not comparing Maxey = Peterson btw. Just what I see Peterson excelling at in the NBA.
He’s my guy I’ll be tracking all season. AJ I guess by default. He’s definitely NBA ready from a physical standpoint.
We shall see if hes a playmaker. One of the looks they went to last night was him with 4 shooters around him. They plan on giving him the opportunity
Based on what I've seen I have Peterson on his own tier. Next tier is AJ, Boozer, Ament and Brown. After that who knows.
Next McGrady
Do you think he'd be able to lift the jazz out of playoff drought someday, eh louie?
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[QUOTE=Axe;15038285]Do you think he'd be able to lift the jazz out of playoff drought someday, eh louie?
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Looks like somebody got triggered into a bitch fit again. :lol
Stinky biatch over there stomping his merman tail. :roll:
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Sarah Todd: Ace Bailey, who was listed as questionable (illness), has been upgraded and will make his debut tonight when the Jazz play the Clippers
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Had the flu
Was KD your basketball idol growing up? Ace Bailey: Yeah, for sure. I watched a lot of his game. I mean, my game is his game low-key. I mean, it hit me a moment—like one of my teammates was like, “Bro, y’all just did the same move.” He did the little spin fade—not the spin fade, but the spin on the little spin jump shot creation. I came down and did the same thing. It was just like, “Bro,” I didn’t even realize. It’s crazy.
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And—and I’m curious with you like, in your NBA, what are your sort of your motivations as a rookie? What do you want to accomplish this season? Ace Bailey: I mean, of course Rookie of the Year. I mean, that’s the main goal for all of us rookies is just try to win that. So that’s a big goal of mine. I mean, I want to be an All-Star, for sure. I mean, just got to keep putting in the work. Want to make defensive team—show the defense been working. Um, also just become a better teammate, be—open up to learning a lot more.
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