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hornets kinda choked under the pressure tonight.. they are young and it's gonna happen, happened in the last 6 games of the season too when the conference championship was on the line... mavs showed alot of poise, came in and got the job done, it's a whole new series now
[QUOTE=MarloStanfield]The Hornets also looked like they lacked the same amount of energy they played with in games 1 and 2.[/QUOTE]
They will play much better in game 4!
[QUOTE=ACCBaller1403]Dude, the Mavs didn't say anything about Paul's grandfather. Julius Hodge from NC State when Paul was in college said something and Chris Paul knocked him in the jewels for it. Quit getting all hot and bothered over the Mavs when you have no idea what happened.[/QUOTE]
yeah my fault about that.Thats why i put the question mark.
[QUOTE=MarloStanfield]The Hornets also looked like they lacked the same amount of energy they played with in games 1 and 2.[/QUOTE]
This was another test for them. They haven't won a game in Dallas this season (or the past 10 years for that matter, but those were different times), and you have to remember this was their first road playoff game. I'm not trying to make excuses, but I think this team will come out Sunday with better execution.
Imagine if Deron Williams was on the Mavs. Paul wouldn't even record a basket or an assist for the rest of his career in Dallas.
WOW....the Mavs grew some b@lls.
Good for them!
[QUOTE=Silverbullit]Dallas fans count on Dirk going 32/19/6 in game 4 again :D[/QUOTE]
LOL they barkley won when dirk went that.The hornets were still in the gm with Paul and West playing like ****.West miss like 10 wide open jumpers when he is normally alwats make that shot.
[QUOTE=Showtime]This was another test for them. They haven't won a game in Dallas this season (or the past 10 years for that matter, but those were different times), and you have to remember this was their first road playoff game. I'm not trying to make excuses, but I think this team will come out Sunday with better execution.
Imagine if Deron Williams was on the Mavs. Paul wouldn't even record a basket or an assist for the rest of his career in Dallas.[/QUOTE]
??????LOL u are on some crack.
[QUOTE=Silverbullit]Dallas fans count on Dirk going 32/19/6 in game 4 again :D[/QUOTE]
I find it hilarious how Dirk balls in NO and everyone says "I don't care what his stats are, he's a pansy and they lost". Then he balls and they get the win at home and all I see is "the Mavs are in trouble and Dirk only had 19 boards because the Hornets didn't get good position...they won't win because they're all pansies." He gets 0 props no matter what he does. He's having a terrific series and the hate is insane.
The main difference between the two previous games and this game was different defensive adjustments and Jet showed up to play. Dirk's been doing his thing all series and noone recognizes or cares to recognize.
And about Dirk falling on the jumpshot...I have seen Lebron, Wade, Nash, Melo, Ginobli, Parker, and Kobe pull the same move. Call it a flop because it is, but don't act like Dirk is the only one in the NBA that does it.
12/01 Mavs +6 in fouls
12/14 Hornets +2 in fouls
2/20 Mavs +1 in fouls
4/16 Hornets +4 in fouls
Game 1 Hornets +2 in fouls
Game 2 Mavs +3 in fouls
Game 3 Hornets +11 in fouls
[QUOTE=macatak911]12/01 Mavs +6 in fouls
12/14 Hornets +2 in fouls
2/20 Mavs +1 in fouls
4/16 Hornets +4 in fouls
Game 1 Hornets +2 in fouls
Game 2 Mavs +3 in fouls
Game 3 Hornets +11 in fouls[/QUOTE]
Oh I get it...it's the ref's fault. So the same thing that everyone bashes the Mavs for gets used against them...
Can't say that makes much sense.
[QUOTE=ACCBaller1403]I find it hilarious how Dirk balls in NO and everyone says "I don't care what his stats are, he's a pansy and they lost". Then he balls and they get the win at home and all I see is "the Mavs are in trouble and Dirk only had 19 boards because the Hornets didn't get good position...they won't win because they're all pansies." He gets 0 props no matter what he does. He's having a terrific series and the hate is insane.
The main difference between the two previous games and this game was different defensive adjustments and Jet showed up to play. Dirk's been doing his thing all series and noone recognizes or cares to recognize.
And about Dirk falling on the jumpshot...I have seen Lebron, Wade, Nash, Melo, Ginobli, Parker, and Kobe pull the same move. Call it a flop because it is, but don't act like Dirk is the only one in the NBA that does it.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=ACCBaller1403]Oh I get it...it's the ref's fault. So the same thing that everyone bashes the Mavs for gets used against them...
Can't say that makes much sense.[/QUOTE]
Do you honestly believe the refs called the game the SAME WAY on BOTH ENDS of the court?
[QUOTE=macatak911]Do you honestly believe the refs called the game the SAME WAY on BOTH ENDS of the court?[/QUOTE]
please. stop crying about the refs. Mavs fans have never been allowed to do this.
Kings fans were never allowed when they were getting royally screwed against the Lakers. The Suns fans weren't vs the Spurs last year. Anyone getting elbowed in the head by Shaq or even Karl Malone was never allowed to cry about it.
So guess what, you arent either. the Mavs set the tone for the night so they got the calls. maybe if your boys had come out more aggressive it would have been different. BTW, by your logic the Mavs should have won game 1.
[QUOTE=kentatm]please. stop crying about the refs. Mavs fans have never been allowed to do this.
Kings fans were never allowed when they were getting royally screwed against the Lakers. The Suns fans weren't vs the Spurs last year. Anyone getting elbowed in the head by Shaq or even Karl Malone was never allowed to cry about it.
So guess what, you arent either. the Mavs set the tone for the night so they got the calls. maybe if your boys had come out more aggressive it would have been different. [B]BTW, by your logic the Mavs should have won game 1[/B].[/QUOTE]
You never answered my question.
+11 is different than +2
[QUOTE=macatak911]Do you honestly believe the refs called the game the SAME WAY on BOTH ENDS of the court?[/QUOTE]
I honestly think that the Mavs were at home and got the benefit of some calls, but to call the refs out is a bs move. Had West hit his open jumpers the refs wouldn't have been a factor anyways. I'm pretty sure back when the Mavs lost in the finals, you'd be saying the same thing against them when Mavs fans were claiming the refs were biased. They actually had a legit case back then and everyone still jumped on them for suggesting the refs were calling a bad game.
This team is damned if they do, damned if they don't around here. There is literally nothing the Mavericks can do at this point to get respect from anyone on this board. They're not even my team and I feel the need to back them up against some of the crap I'm reading in this thread.
[QUOTE=ACCBaller1403]Oh I get it...it's the ref's fault. So the same thing that everyone bashes the Mavs for gets used against them...
Can't say that makes much sense.[/QUOTE]
Pargo was getting hacked alot today while Josh howard was getting calls and Dirk the flopper got alot of calls for falling.I wonder wat players floppers will do next year when stern puts in the rule for floppers.LMFAO ak,manu, and okur will be crying like babies.Almost all players flop sometime, but those guy do it wayy too much and make it look like an art.
[QUOTE=macatak911]You never answered my question.
+11 is different than +2[/QUOTE]
ive told you twice now, the Mavs came out more aggressive on offense and got NO in foul trouble by taking it to the rim a ton more. what about this do you not get?
[QUOTE=juju151111]Pargo was getting hacked alot today while Josh howard was getting calls and Dirk the flopper got alot of calls for falling.I wonder wat players floppers will do next year when stern puts in the rule for floppers.LMFAO ak,manu, and okur will be crying like babies.Almost all players flop sometime, but those guy do it wayy too much and make it look like an art.[/QUOTE]
Agreed - Except we won't be seeing many white or euro players any longer...
[QUOTE=ACCBaller1403]
This team is damned if they do, damned if they don't around here. There is literally nothing the Mavericks can do at this point to get respect from anyone on this board. They're not even my team and I feel the need to back them up against some of the crap I'm reading in this thread.[/QUOTE]
pretty much. Dirk is stuck there too. It really doesnt matter at this point what they do. They could win the title and people would rip them for only having one and say if they dont repeat its clearly a fluke.
[QUOTE=kentatm]ive told you twice now, the Mavs came out more aggressive on offense and got NO in foul trouble by taking it to the rim a ton more. what about this do you not get?[/QUOTE]
Its a simple yes or no question.
[QUOTE=juju151111]Pargo was getting hacked alot today while Josh howard was getting calls and Dirk the flopper got alot of calls for falling.I wonder wat players floppers will do next year when stern puts in the rule for floppers.LMFAO ak,manu, and okur will be crying like babies.Almost all players flop sometime, but those guy do it wayy too much and make it look like an art.[/QUOTE]
There's no way they can install a flopping rule...it's just way too subjective. I'd be all for it because then Wade, Kobe, Iverson, Manu, Parker, Okur, Varejao, Dirk, etc. would be forced to stop the bs, but there's just no realistic way that that can be enforced. It won't happen.
What they should do is crack down on all the crying after the foul call because it's gotten to levels that I've never seen before. Every single call leads to an entire team getting heated about it. Noone respects the refs anymore.
And I've never seen anyone back Pargo, a roleplaying jumpshooter who was practically out of the league 2 years ago, for not getting calls. You are a pioneer, sir.
[QUOTE=macatak911]Its a simple yes or no question.[/QUOTE]
yes you baby. the team that comes out more aggressive ALWAYS gets more calls. thats how it is. both teams have the chance to influence the game equally and Dallas did a better job. stop your *****ing.
[QUOTE=ACCBaller1403]I honestly think that the Mavs were at home and got the benefit of some calls, but to call the refs out is a bs move. Had West hit his open jumpers the refs wouldn't have been a factor anyways. I'm pretty sure back when the Mavs lost in the finals, you'd be saying the same thing against them when Mavs fans were claiming the refs were biased. They actually had a legit case back then and everyone still jumped on them for suggesting the refs were calling a bad game.
This team is damned if they do, damned if they don't around here. There is literally nothing the Mavericks can do at this point to get respect from anyone on this board. They're not even my team and I feel the need to back them up against some of the crap I'm reading in this thread.[/QUOTE]
LMAFAO Dwade was wayyy too fast thats all.Watch the tapes on youtube.They just couldn't keep up with him.He was agressive and they were falling him.D-wade was CP3 but taller so he could just finish way easier.They had a 2-0 lead.Wat the refs just decided after gm2 "the heats are losing alot lets make them win the series.Also back then dirk didn't take it to the basket alot and he improved that after that season.People critized him for that.Yep refs just magically decide to make them win after two wins by dallas and almost winning gm3.
[QUOTE=kentatm]yes you baby. the team that comes out more aggressive ALWAYS gets more calls. thats how it is. both teams have the chance to influence the game equally and Dallas did a better job. stop your *****ing.[/QUOTE]
Your explanation goes against your answer. A touch foul on one end should be called the exact same way on the other end. **** I don't even think the Mavs were in the penalty the enitre game. When's the last time you saw that?
[QUOTE=ACCBaller1403]There's no way they can install a flopping rule...it's just way too subjective. I'd be all for it because then Wade, Kobe, Iverson, Manu, Parker, Okur, Varejao, Dirk, etc. would be forced to stop the bs, but there's just no realistic way that that can be enforced. It won't happen.
What they should do is crack down on all the crying after the foul call because it's gotten to levels that I've never seen before. Every single call leads to an entire team getting heated about it. Noone respects the refs anymore.
And I've never seen anyone back Pargo, a roleplaying jumpshooter who was practically out of the league 2 years ago, for not getting calls. You are a pioneer, sir.[/QUOTE]
Who cares if he is a role player?/When he drived they were hacking him.Simple i don't give a crap.Just because he doesn't flop and fall like dirk means he didn't get foul?
[QUOTE=juju151111]LMAFAO Dwade was wayyy too fast thats all.Watch the tapes on youtube.They just couldn't keep up with him.He was agressive and they were falling him.D-wade was CP3 but taller so he could just finish way easier.They had a 2-0 lead.Wat the refs just decided after gm2 "the heats are losing alot lets make them win the series.Also back then dirk didn't take it to the basket alot and he improved that after that season.People critized him for that.Yep refs just magically decide to make them win after two wins by dallas and almost winning gm3.[/QUOTE]
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
hypocrite baby. you just owned yourself.:roll:
[QUOTE=juju151111]LMAFAO Dwade was wayyy too fast thats all.Watch the tapes on youtube.They just couldn't keep up with him.He was agressive and they were falling him.D-wade was CP3 but taller so he could just finish way easier.They had a 2-0 lead.Wat the refs just decided after gm2 "the heats are losing alot lets make them win the series.Also back then dirk didn't take it to the basket alot and he improved that after that season.People critized him for that.Yep refs just magically decide to make them win after two wins by dallas and almost winning gm3.[/QUOTE]
enuff of your cryin. yes there was a couple questionable calls in that finals but overall it was a fair series. the heat just took dallas' heart on both ends of the floor. wade offensively and mourning defensively.
[QUOTE=macatak911]Your explanation goes against your answer. A touch foul on one end should be called the exact same way on the other end. **** I don't even think the Mavs were in the penalty the enitre game. When's the last time you saw that?[/QUOTE]
I agree and how was pargo not getting calls in the 4th on those pentrations while dirk flops all day long and get everything.
[QUOTE=macatak911]Your explanation goes against your answer. A touch foul on one end should be called the exact same way on the other end. **** I don't even think the Mavs were in the penalty the enitre game. When's the last time you saw that?[/QUOTE]
ohh now its the touch fouls that were getting called wrong? take off your green glasses.
the Mavs werent getting into the penalty B/C NO DOES NOT GO TO THE HOOP ENOUGH.
jesus. im done with you and your thick skull.
[QUOTE=iggy>]enuff of your cryin. yes there was a couple questionable calls in that finals but overall it was a fair series. the heat just took dallas' heart on both ends of the floor. wade offensively and mourning defensively.[/QUOTE]
WTH i am saying it was a fair series.U just agreed with me.LOL
[QUOTE=kentatm]ohh now its the touch fouls that were getting called wrong? take off your green glasses.
[B]the Mavs werent getting into the penalty B/C NO DOES NOT GO TO THE HOOP ENOUGH.[/B]
jesus. im done with you and your thick skull.[/QUOTE]
Every other game between Dallas and NOLA this season Dallas has had 20+ fouls.
And I've said from the beginning of my posting no touch fouls were called on dallas yet they were called on nola
[QUOTE=kentatm]:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
hypocrite baby. you just owned yourself.:roll:[/QUOTE]
How????The refs called a fair gm.They couldn't stop him.I also remember(I think it was gm4) where josh howard said he couldn't shoot and he destroyed him with jumpers.
[QUOTE=juju151111]LMAFAO Dwade was wayyy too fast thats all.Watch the tapes on youtube.They just couldn't keep up with him.He was agressive and they were falling him.D-wade was CP3 but taller so he could just finish way easier.They had a 2-0 lead.Wat the refs just decided after gm2 "the heats are losing alot lets make them win the series.Also back then dirk didn't take it to the basket alot and he improved that after that season.People critized him for that.Yep refs just magically decide to make them win after two wins by dallas and almost winning gm3.[/QUOTE]
You're kidding me right? You really want to bring Youtube into this?
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lX_qMS9bRY[/url]
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I'm not going to get in a ref discussion about the Mavs/Heat because then I'd be doing exactly what you're doing...crying about the refs. I will say that the evidence is there, though.
Horrible officiated game in favor of the Mavs. This is the one game that they're supposed to win. I see the Hornets bouncing back, and taking this series in 5.
And what the hell was with Ericka Dampier? Pushed Paul around, but when Chandler got in his face he didn't do sh[I]i[/I]t. :oldlol:
[QUOTE=juju151111]Who cares if he is a role player?/When he drived they were hacking him.Simple i don't give a crap.Just because he doesn't flop and fall like dirk means he didn't get foul?[/QUOTE]
Same reason Roger Mason gets no calls in the Wizards series when he's getting hammered. The refs are notorious for star bias. Seriously, if you're upset over a no-call on Pargo and that's why you think they lost the game, you're more dense than I thought. Maybe West shooting crap from the field was why they lost. I guess the refs made him miss open J's all night too?
Just for the record, I wouldn't be surprised if the Mavs lose in 6 because it looks like their window is closing. They're still a good team though and have never gotten respect. I actually think Chris Paul is the MVP and the best PG in the NBA and have watched the Hornets all season. I don't care if the Mavs lose, but I just find it funny that the hypocrisy in this thread isn't getting called out by anyone.
[QUOTE=juju151111]WTH i am saying it was a fair series.U just agreed with me.LOL[/QUOTE]
o my bad, well then that statement goes to whoever u were talkin to.
Nice win by the mavs.
That was the 06 Mavs for a little bit there.
Terry is really the key to the team and needs to start over Stack. I think Terry has gotten a major free pass for his play this year - hopefully he continues with the standard he set 2nite.
[QUOTE=ACCBaller1403]You're kidding me right? You really want to bring Youtube into this?
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lX_qMS9bRY[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuukM40T974&feature=related[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fydhtOSlfW0&feature=related[/url]
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[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5y8nI1PPYOk&feature=related[/url]
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I'm not going to get in a ref discussion about the Mavs/Heat because then I'd be doing exactly what you're doing...crying about the refs. I will say that the evidence is there, though.[/QUOTE]
Ok let LMAO u show me 7 vids like he only took that many FTs.Ok let me look through it.The first vid shows a flop.The 2nd vid shows a clear foul caused by his agressiveness and he got cantact.(If u watch the nba now they always call that foul.)3rd vid He smacked his hand i think.I can tell from that choppy vid but u could see why the refs would think he fouled him.4th vid was a clear bad call.5th vid dirk bumed himLook at dirk left hand reaching.Last vid makes no sense.Thats just a gm of kobe not getting any calls.
Additional Note:
Why do people still whine about refs on this board?
Is it b/c of all these new people? I assume so since I am still seeing "who was better Malone or Barkley?" threads.