so where are the epstein files?

[QUOTE=Baller234;15024731]For 10 years the debate between team red and team blue has basically boiled down to:

[B]Team Red:[/B] "Our policies are better..."

[B]Team Blue:[/B] "Our leaders are better..."


So if by some chance the files became unsealed and the whole house of cards came tumbling down, including Trump, team blue has a lot more to lose. If the leaders of team blue are just as evil then it totally nullifies their entire argument.

I think you woke libs should be extremely careful of what you wish for.[/QUOTE]

OKAY :roll:


Yeah, we were all about Biden and our leaders, and MAGA was never about Trump, just the policies.

This is another bargain, because you don't like your other bargain any more.



At some point, you are going to have to come to terms with the fact that Trump is a complete and utter failure and a stain on US history.

[QUOTE=Baller234;15024732]I swear on everything that I love I would gladly sacrifice Trump if it meant bringing down the down the deep state and destroying woke leftism for good.

Can you say the same?[/QUOTE]

The Dems are 100% out right now. You got that. Trump in office, all of Congress is GOP, and even the Supreme Court is GOP.

How can it be brought down any more than that?

And no, I for one understand that the two sides keep each other in check and are both needed to prevent falling into extremism.

[QUOTE=Off the Court;15024730]Yeah and there is no PROOF that OJ killed anyone either. :oldlol:

You're still in the denial stage as well. But I do think you'll fly past the other stages at some point. You may do a little bargaining, but no where near the level of depression that Baller and Chewing and others will go through.[/QUOTE]

what is it that has you so convinced that he's indeed a pedophile?

[QUOTE=diamenz;15024736]what is it that has you so convinced that he's indeed a pedophile?[/QUOTE]

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[QUOTE=Baller234;15024732]I swear on everything that I love I would gladly sacrifice Trump if it meant bringing down the down the deep state and destroying woke leftism for good.

Can you say the same?[/QUOTE]

trump is now a part of the 'deep state'. trump has joined the uniparty - he can no longer be considered as an "outsider". the epstein fiasco, a biden 2.0 foreign policy and subserviency to his donors to cut taxes on their behalf, all destroy his credibility in that regard.

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well?

[QUOTE=diamenz;15024739]well?[/QUOTE]

Well what? there are 40+ pages of it debated in here on it. I'm not going to reiterate it all for you. It's pretty f@3king obvious at this point, the writing is on the wall. Just ask Elon Musk.

The very first reply in here was me saying Trump is listed because it was obvious BEFORE all this shit with Musk and him refusing to release the list even went down :oldlol:

[QUOTE=Hey Yo;15024729]Crickets from the Clinton loving Dumbocrats[/QUOTE]

As far as I know, we don't have any Bill Clinton fans here, boomer. I wasn't of his triangulation political ideas, he was GOP lite and a sexual predator...and pals with Trump, fukk him.

[QUOTE=Off the Court;15024733]Yeah, we were all about Biden and our leaders[/QUOTE]

Correct.

You guys bent over backwards so you can continue to support your leaders. It was never about policy or even competence with you. In fact I'm pretty sure you've admitted proudly that the only reason you supported Biden was because he wasn't Trump.

Your entire political identity is "anyone but Trump". That's fanaticism. You're so convinced that Trump is Satan that you'll slurp anyone who stands in his way.

So if it ever did come out that everyone in Washington is a demon pedophile, including prominent leaders on both sides, that's going to be way worse for you than us. We can survive on our policies and principles, but without being able to claim moral superiority you guys have nothing.

[QUOTE=TheMan;15024743]As far as I know, we don't have any Bill Clinton fans here, boomer. I wasn't of his triangulation political ideas, he was GOP lite and a sexual predator...and pals with Trump, fukk him.[/QUOTE]

Democrats worshiped the ground Hillary walked on and claimed America was sexist and bigoted because she didn't win.

Bill Clinton gave a speech at the last DNC and was given a hero's welcome.

[QUOTE=Baller234;15024745]Correct.

You guys bent over backwards so you can continue to support your leaders. It was never about policy or even competence with you. In fact I'm pretty sure you've admitted proudly that the only reason you supported Biden was because he wasn't Trump.

Your entire political identity is "anyone but Trump". That's fanaticism. You're so convinced that Trump is Satan that you'll slurp anyone who stands in his way.

So if it ever did come out that everyone in Washington is a demon pedophile, including prominent leaders on both sides, that's going to be way worse for you than us. We can survive on our policies and principles, but without being able to claim moral superiority you guys have nothing.[/QUOTE]

This entire thing conflicts with itself, so "CORRECT" we were all about our leaders and "bent over backwards" to support them. But our entire political identity is "anyone but Trump"?

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Go back to the drawing board, and come up with a more logical bargain.

Yes, you bent over backwards to support Biden.

You pretended he was smart, pretended he was capable, pretended he wasn't corrupt, pretended he wasn't a liar, pretended he never took naked showers with his daughter, pretended he didn't keep the lid on Epstein, pretended he didn't have dementia...etc.

You jumped through hoops of fire to support that man all because of your hatred for Orange Face.

We didn't care about Biden or pretend he was Superman like you are saying. We just knew he was the better option over Orange Face.

You really just need to stick with same tired old TDS stuff, because the idea that we only wanted Trump out but at the same time thought Biden was flawless makes no sense.

[QUOTE=Off the Court;15024749]We didn't care about Biden or pretend he was Superman like you are saying. [B][SIZE=5]We just knew he was the better option over Orange Face.[/SIZE][/B]

You really just need to stick with same tired old TDS stuff, because the idea that we only wanted Trump out but at the same time thought Biden was flawless makes no sense.[/QUOTE]

Of course. You were perfectly fine turning a blind eye to the whole Epstein thing, as well as Ashley's diary, because you were blinded and caught up in your anti-Trump fanaticism.

But what happens when it turns out all the people you supported were evil pedos?