[QUOTE=Mississippi]You're a 40 yr old virgin. Your life=epic fail[/QUOTE]
Thats original. Did you google that comeback?
[QUOTE]This is so true (100000+ posts by GOBB=fails).[/QUOTE]
Exagerrate much?
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[QUOTE=Mississippi]You're a 40 yr old virgin. Your life=epic fail[/QUOTE]
Thats original. Did you google that comeback?
[QUOTE]This is so true (100000+ posts by GOBB=fails).[/QUOTE]
Exagerrate much?
[QUOTE=GOBB]Thats original. Did you google that comeback?
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Yeah as if "this tread=fail" was first used last night. :rolleyes:
For those who want to see how Rondo played with out an all-star on his team look at his rookie year as a starter in 25 games he avg.
10.6 ppg
5.8 apg
5.4 rpg
2.4 spg
47.4 FG%
if he could do that as a rookie with Al Jefferson and Ryan Gomes as his best players why couldn't he put up better numbers now as a 3rd year player.
[QUOTE=Mississippi]Yeah as if "this tread=fail" was first used last night. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
What you wrote was something you made up. A lie. What I typed was the truth. Your thread is a failure. Rondo being overrated? Yeah he sure looked that way this season especially last night. Problem with you and other idiots on this msgboard? A couple posters prop, give praise to a player. And you are lookin for things to disagree on, to discredit or find flaw with. So your counter is the opposite of praise. Its making up nonsense with no basis.
Rondo has never been ranked higher than what many have him. PG is one of the most difficult transitions along with C when entering the pro game as a rookie. Let alone a starter. Rondo did a great job thus far dispite his shooting/lack of range woes. He'll continue to improve/develop and the clowns here wanna use the Big 3 as some sort of reason why he looks good. Sorry KG, Pierce nor Allen help this kid make the right decisions. They dont help him penetrate to the basket, push the rock keeping defenders on thier heels. They dont allow him to be a good defensive PG either.
If anything they make his offense not as important where he isnt dependant on scoring. Guy does everything else well and did so in college. You notice how i can briefly disect your weak thread? Your topic is a failure.
Now sit there, fabricate some tall tales for your response. Prove me right that I speak the truth, supply facts whereas you? You pass gas when typing. And quite frankly? It stinks. :no:
[QUOTE=MMM]For those who want to see how Rondo played with out an all-star on his team look at his rookie year as a starter in 25 games he avg.
10.6 ppg
5.8 apg
5.4 rpg
2.4 spg
47.4 FG%
if he could do that as a rookie with Al Jefferson and Ryan Gomes as his best players why couldn't he put up better numbers now as a 3rd year player.[/QUOTE]
Todd Day put up 16ppg one year and was out of the league shortly after. I can list all sorts of players you've probably never heard of that have had good years here and there, and sucked after.
To assume that someone's going to just keep getting better year after year is ignorance at its best.
Hell, look at Antoine Walker.
Mathius
[QUOTE=GOBB]What you wrote was something you made up. A lie. What I typed was the truth. Your thread is a failure. Rondo being overrated? Yeah he sure looked that way this season especially last night. Problem with you and other idiots on this msgboard? A couple posters prop, give praise to a player. And you are lookin for things to disagree on, to discredit or find flaw with. So your counter is the opposite of praise. Its making up nonsense with no basis.
Rondo has never been ranked higher than what many have him. PG is one of the most difficult transitions along with C when entering the pro game as a rookie. Let alone a starter. Rondo did a great job thus far dispite his shooting/lack of range woes. He'll continue to improve/develop and the clowns here wanna use the Big 3 as some sort of reason why he looks good. Sorry KG, Pierce nor Allen help this kid make the right decisions. They dont help him penetrate to the basket, push the rock keeping defenders on thier heels. They dont allow him to be a good defensive PG either.
If anything they make his offense not as important where he isnt dependant on scoring. Guy does everything else well and did so in college. You notice how i can briefly disect your weak thread? Your topic is a failure.
Now sit there, fabricate some tall tales for your response. Prove me right that I speak the truth, supply facts whereas you? You pass gas when typing. And quite frankly? It stinks. :no:[/QUOTE]
Finally!
A thoughtful response.
I too wonder why posters on this messageboard seem to bash players other then their favorites.
Rondo is a great player, maybe not an all-star but he can be a solid NBA player. Labelling a NBA player a all-star means actually nothing considering there is a chance Yi might sneak in there. What means something in this league is getting voted in the All-NBA team.
[QUOTE=Mathius]Todd Day put up 16ppg one year and was out of the league shortly after. I can list all sorts of players you've probably never heard of that have had good years here and there, and sucked after.
To assume that someone's going to just keep getting better year after year is ignorance at its best.
Hell, look at Antoine Walker.
Mathius[/QUOTE]
I'm not assuming he gets better and better I'm just showing what Rondo did without 3 all-stars on his team as a rookie PG. A lot of Rondo's doubters question his ability without the big 3 unfairly imo when just 2 seasons ago he has solid stats as a rookie. Now in his 3rd year has progressed especially on the defensive end so why do people claim the big 3 make him look good or hide his weak points. Rondo's game is good in every area besides shooting yet people continue to harp on that instead of the other 6-7 things he does at a high level.
obviously he is overrated. This guy is playing with three future HOF guys. What has he accomplished on an individual level on this team? He doesn't have to do anything and will be regarded as one of the top 10 pgs in this league...he is far from that in truth.
[QUOTE=Mathius]Todd Day put up 16ppg one year and was out of the league shortly after. I can list all sorts of players you've probably never heard of that have had good years here and there, and sucked after.
To assume that someone's going to just keep getting better year after year is ignorance at its best.
Hell, look at Antoine Walker.
Mathius[/QUOTE]
Are you comparing a very young Rondo to Walker, who actually improved a few years and Todd Day, who everybody actually expected to become very good? For every player who did not improve you can name as many who did. I'm not saying Rondo will become a star, but he's shown enough to say he's at least a above average starter.
[QUOTE=loot]Are you comparing a very young Rondo to Walker, who actually improved a few years and Todd Day, who everybody actually expected to become very good? For every player who did not improve you can name as many who did. I'm not saying Rondo will become a star, but he's shown enough to say he's at least a above average starter.[/QUOTE]
I'm not comparing anyone. I'm just pointing out the stupidity of his logic to just assume that 3 years in the league means natural progression.
Mathius
[QUOTE=bada bing]obviously he is overrated. [B]This guy is playing with three future HOF guys.[/B] What has he accomplished on an individual level on this team? He doesn't have to do anything and will be regarded as one of the top 10 pgs in this league...he is far from that in truth.[/QUOTE]
in his rookie year he played with another big 3 Al Jefferson, Gerald Green and Ryan Gomes and look what he did :banghead:
[QUOTE=Mathius]I'm not comparing anyone. I'm just pointing out the stupidity of his logic to just assume that 3 years in the league means natural progression.
Mathius[/QUOTE]
my point was not assuming he is progressing but that he is virtually the same player with or without the Big 3 for those who argue the big 3 make him look good they are flat out wrong.
[QUOTE=Mathius]I'm not comparing anyone. I'm just pointing out the stupidity of his logic to just assume that 3 years in the league means natural progression.
Mathius[/QUOTE]
Everybody assumes a player progresses in his 3rd year. If players, [I]especially starters[/I], do no progress people will be amazed. It's expected from players and especially starters. I don't see what's so absurd here, let's be realistic. You picked Todd Day, you couldve thrown in Pooh Richardson and them too, but those players were also expected to improve. I can understand it if you'll tell us players are not expected to improve when they're 27 yeras old, like David West's progression was a bit of a surprise to most. But expecting a 22 year old Rondo to imrpove from what he was last year?
That's normal, and I'm not talking about stats.
This guy is learning to play by training with some of the best in the league, proven players, he's getting tons of experience by playing extended minutes and going deep into the playoffs, leanring how it is to play under pressure by actually being there on the field during crunch time, making important decisions, handling the ball, being one of the focal points in setting up plays and having a clearly defined role within the starting five.
You don't expect those things to actually improve him as a player? He might never become a 17/9 player with great shooting, but if all those things don't factor in and enable him to grow on what he was this summer, something is clearly very wrong.
someone is angry at celtics' success. put him on suicide watch when they win it all this year
[QUOTE=loot]Everybody assumes a player progresses in his 3rd year. If players, [I]especially starters[/I], do no progress people will be amazed. It's expected from players and especially starters. I don't see what's so absurd here, let's be realistic. You picked Todd Day, you couldve thrown in Pooh Richardson and them too, but those players were also expected to improve. I can understand it if you'll tell us players are not expected to improve when they're 27 yeras old, like David West's progression was a bit of a surprise to most. But expecting a 22 year old Rondo to imrpove from what he was last year?
That's normal, and I'm not talking about stats.[/QUOTE]
That's not "normal." You can go back through history and look at guys who've had good rookie seasons or second years, and then completely digressed. There is no "normal" in the NBA.
Try watching for a few decades and then get back to me on the definition of NBA "normal."
Mathius