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[QUOTE=OldSchoolBBall]Since you were a trainer, let me ask you your opinion on this: do you agree that if Dwight Howard filled out his arms/chest/torso to match the size of his shoulders, he would be monstrous, as in Mr. Olympia monstrous? You can tell that even as muscular as he is, his frame can easily handle another 20-35 pounds of muscle with no problem.[/QUOTE]
to be conditioned the way he is and as muscular as a mister olympia contender, he'd have to gain a lot more than 20-35 pounds. quincy taylor (6'4") has gone on stage at 304 in tighter condition than dwight. allowing for his same rough bodyfat %, dwight would probably have to be in the neighborhood of 370 to match that. i'm just throwing out an estimate right now. kind of hung over from watching the blazers implode in the 4th Q to throw away any hopes of winning the series.
what a terrible f**king night.
here's quincy out of contest shape.
[img]http://www.criticalbench.com/images/quincytaylor2.jpg[/img]
and in contest shape (although he's holding water... looks 'smooth' compared to how he should be at that bf%):
[img]http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2259/1805160099_2a5956987c.jpg?v=0[/img]
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Honestly if it was revealed LeBron James, Dwayne Wade, Dwight Howard and other muscular studs took steroids it would not surprise me.
It is stunning to me that they got so big so quickly.
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[QUOTE=JEFFERSON MONEY]
Kevin Willis is the only guy I'd slightly suspect.[/QUOTE]
Kevin Willis and Karl Malone as a Laker would be my suspects. They had so much muscle that those guys could rarely dunk and were barely getting up there for layups. I know they were old but those guys seemed like they were glued stuck to the ground.
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[QUOTE=Biddy77]to be conditioned the way he is and as muscular as a mister olympia contender, he'd have to gain a lot more than 20-35 pounds. quincy taylor (6'4") has gone on stage at 304 in tighter condition than dwight. allowing for his same rough bodyfat %, dwight would probably have to be in the neighborhood of 370 to match that. i'm just throwing out an estimate right now. kind of hung over from watching the blazers implode in the 4th Q to throw away any hopes of winning the series.
what a terrible f**king night.
here's quincy out of contest shape.
[img]http://www.criticalbench.com/images/quincytaylor2.jpg[/img]
and in contest shape (although he's holding water... looks 'smooth' compared to how he should be at that bf%):
[img]http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2259/1805160099_2a5956987c.jpg?v=0[/img][/QUOTE]
Thanks. No, I know that 25-35 pounds of muscle wouldn't put him into the Mr. Olympia class at all. I was just saying that his frame can so easily support that extra muscle. His genetics are amazing. If he filled out his chest/arms/torso to match his shoulders, it'd be scary.
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You cant always determine who is on roids or not by just looking at their body, for example when its comes to sports like cycling and swimming athletes have been caught using steroids but you would never be able to tell cause of their size and frame. I dont know much about roids but it doesnt seem you have to be bodybuilder huge to be on roids.
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biddy77 my bad. I was playing Devil's Advocate and decided not to re-check the facts. It just seemed 3 - 5 lbs were way too low for 365 years of productivity in the gym.
I think when I was 15 or so I ballooned from 145-155 over the course of a half a spring and a summer. It was probably "natural" puberty growth alongsid This was w/o Whey, eating 'bout 3000 calories and it was low enough BF to see all six abs.
But 3-5 pounds of raw lean mass a year it just seems so friggin low. I'm talking about a strict regimine of good form squats, deadlifts, benches mixed in with the enough curls, military presses, lunges, shoulder shrugs to induce exceptional hypertrophy. That paired with a solid diet can assurely gain more.. esp for a tip-top athlete sans steroids?
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Every single player that I dislike is on steroids, it's a fact.
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Anyone here who thinks that NBA players aren't roided to the gills is just naive. YOU DO NOT I REPEAT YOU DO NOT necessarily get gigantic when you're on steroids. I have friends that either play or have played professionally in the three major sports. Take baseball as an example. Pitchers and infielders are notorious for taking steroids just for recovery. Not for bulking up but just so they can play at a high level. You mean to tell me that in the NBA in an 82 game season where guys like Iverson get tossed around like a rag doll, and guys like Shaq, Yao and Howard get fouled and hung on on every play there there isn't blatant steroid abuse going on there? Sorry but there is. One of my friends that played major league baseball told me that his steroid dealer said that the majority of his clients were...NBA players. Take that for what it's worth but that's what he said.
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A lot of people in this thread aren't realizing how steriods work.
Steriods don't make your muscles bigger per se, what they do is significantly decrease recovery times - allowing you to work longer, more often and harder.
I do think there is steriod use is basketball due to how many games that are played over the course of a season. Players need to help their body recover.
A guy like D. Wade is definently suspect - his sudden bounce back from a number of very serious injuries is unprecedented.
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[QUOTE=inclinerator]old picture on the abc pregame it showed lebron recently and he is way more ripped and bulkier[/QUOTE]
Lebron isn't that jacked. He looks jacked compared to most NBA players because most NBA players are long and lanky. I remember Boomer Esiason (former NFL) who is listed at 6-5 224 lbs, saying on WFAN (NY sports radio) that he saw Lebron at the airport once and he was "small". He said Lebron isn't as big as he looks on TV.
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Lebron is a well known steroid junkie.
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Can you imagine what the players in the 80s were doing?
Everything under the sun. There was essentially no testing for PEDs whatsoever.
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Players in the 80s were juiced to the gills.
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