Re: NBA admits mistake in Nuggets-Mavs game
[QUOTE=BallPhunk]I agree that in hindsight a foul should have been called. BUT I can't help but not get bent out of shape when:
1. If the team is coached properly, don't you tell the refs you have a foul to give and plan to use it (like you warn them about a time out at a crucial moment).
2. If that shot doesn't go in, I guarantee Dallas doesn't say a word. He clearly tried to play it off hoping for that very thing. If you're going to make that foul, you don't swipe - you leave no doubt. That stupid gesture he made after looked a lot like "I didn't touch him", regardless. The ref may have felt he was giving Dallas a break; it's not his job to know there's a foul to give meaning they plan to foul.
3. All this constant hysterics (like the bold above) about how the NBA is ruined with all these bad calls makes me ill. There have been some good series and the teams that should have won did.
There's always disputed calls in the playoffs. It's a hard job.
Dallas was up 4 with 30 seconds left I believe, at home. I wish they would have won, but they didn't. If they were the better team they would have.[/QUOTE]
1. I am hearing 2 sides to this...
-He should have told the refs before hand
-The refs are dumb because it should have been completely obvious
:confusedshrug:
2. If that shot had missed I would bet every penny I have that the Nuggets would be going ape sh*t and the NBA would be apologizing to THEM right now...
3. I am just talking about the way the entire game is set up in general...ever since the Mavs/Heat series and listening to Cuban's views and others it almost seems as though fouls in general just completely ruin the game even when the call is correct...
Is basketball the ONLY sport where a fould can be considered "GOOD"???
doesn't that seem as though the rules are broken???...or that something needs to change???
would you see any kind of "foul" done on purpose in the NFL or MLB or NHL or ANY OTHER SPORT???? on a regular basis???
IDK...all I am saying is that my views on the NBA have changed over the past few years...for the worse...
Re: NBA admits mistake in Nuggets-Mavs game
[QUOTE=~primetime~]1. I am hearing 2 sides to this...
-He should have told the refs before hand
-The refs are dumb because it should have been completely obvious
:confusedshrug:
2. If that shot had missed I would bet every penny I have that the Nuggets would be going ape sh*t and the NBA would be apologizing to THEM right now...
3. I am just talking about the way the entire game is set up in general...ever since the Mavs/Heat series and listening to Cuban's views and others it almost seems as though fouls in general just completely ruin the game even when the call is correct...
Is basketball the ONLY sport where a fould can be considered "GOOD"???
doesn't that seem as though the rules are broken???...or that something needs to change???
would you see any kind of "foul" done on purpose in the NFL or MLB or NHL or ANY OTHER SPORT???? on a regular basis???
IDK...all I am saying is that my views on the NBA have changed over the past few years...for the worse...[/QUOTE]
Why would we go ape ****?
Dallas had the game in there hands you guys just played dumb ball. Too be specific Wright is quite dumb.
Like I always say if Melo would be at the line more if he actually gets the calls when he's on the inside he's one of the stars that just don't get calls for the little ***** touch fouls.
It's over, if Melo missed there would be threads saying Melo isn't clutch or he's not clutch in the playoffs.
Re: NBA admits mistake in Nuggets-Mavs game
[QUOTE=~primetime~]1. I am hearing 2 sides to this...
-He should have told the refs before hand
-The refs are dumb because it should have been completely obvious
:confusedshrug:
I never said your second option. Point 1 stands.
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[QUOTE=~primetime~]2. If that shot had missed I would bet every penny I have that the Nuggets would be going ape sh*t and the NBA would be apologizing to THEM right now...[/QUOTE]
But would you be complaining? ;-)
[QUOTE=~primetime~]would you see any kind of "foul" done on purpose in the NFL or MLB or NHL or ANY OTHER SPORT???? on a regular basis???
IDK...all I am saying is that my views on the NBA have changed over the past few years...for the worse...[/QUOTE]
It's never the exact circumstances, but calls have an impact on every game. Watch football? Ask the Raiders a number of years back.
I understand a hard-core fan being pissed, but as I said there are two sides...
Re: NBA admits mistake in Nuggets-Mavs game
[B][SIZE="7"]EVERYBODY REMEMBER ONE THING:[/SIZE][/B]
NBA admits mistake in Nuggets-Mavs game
[B][SIZE="7"]EVERYBODY ANSWER ME THIS:[/SIZE][/B]
has there been a mistake made that is bigger than this?.......
Oh yea... the fact that the refs worked for the mob once....
Re: NBA admits mistake in Nuggets-Mavs game
[QUOTE=BallPhunk]Dallas was up 4 with 30 seconds left I believe, at home. I wish they would have won, but they didn't. If they were the better team they would have.[/QUOTE]
I believe if you put yourself in a position to lose, and then you lose, its on you.
Re: NBA admits mistake in Nuggets-Mavs game
[QUOTE=Killer_Instinct]Obviously you're upset at the loss. OK. But why are you crying to me? I don't want to hear your sob story about [I]why[/I] you think the Mavs lost. I responded to your first post. That's all that needed to be said, and it should have been left. If we both agree that he should have wrapped him up, why does it matter anymore? We disagree on him holding his hands/not playing after the whistle. It's called opinions. You have yours, I have mine. You're not changing my mind. So just stop. It's pointless. You're acting ass sore. Get over it. It's 3-0.
I don't really care what you think, I've already explained to you(unneccessarily) just [B]why[/B] I thought the play was weak and stupid on Wright's part. And yeah. The series was over before the tip. Denver was/is clearly the better team, and I called that before Game 1. I predicted it to be over in 5 two days before the series began. Looks like a clean sweep from here, though. You going to get mad because I didn't think the Mavs had a snowballs chance in hell? Boo-f[I]u[/I]ckin'-hoo. If me making an observation about two teams I could give a sh[I]i[/I]t about makes me bias because I didn't predict your team had a chance, then you need to grow a pair. You're looking like Cuban with your fit, and it's irrelevant, because at the end of the day it's 3-0.
Cry about it, I guess. Just not to me.[/QUOTE]
I'm a Sixers fans since the day my mom gave birth to me. So you typed all that to say what? Nothing. I typed all this to say what? Something.
Re: NBA admits mistake in Nuggets-Mavs game
[QUOTE=BallPhunk]
It's never the exact circumstances, but calls have an impact on every game. Watch football? Ask the Raiders a number of years back.
I understand a hard-core fan being pissed, but as I said there are two sides...[/QUOTE]
I think you are missing my point...
I am just saying that the past few years are making me question the rules in the NBA in general...
would you ever see an intentional pass interference done in the NFL?
would you ever see a short stop tackle a base runner on purpose?
those sports have aranged the rules to where comitting ANY kind of "FOUL" would never give your team a better chance to win...
I am just saying that the NBA is the ONLY sport where "fouls" are considered to be a "good thing" at times...
This is a problem according to Cuban...and it needs to be changed...
I have even heard some of the old timers talk about this...it is NOT how basketball was ment to be played...
the NBA should arrange the rules to where a team would NEVER want to foul...
a "FOUL" should ALWAYS be a bad thing...never a good thing...'
I would start a thread on this subject but I am all to familiar with the way alot of kids act here and it would just turn into a "STFU you sorry Mavs loser" fest...:ohwell:
anyway...JMO
Re: NBA admits mistake in Nuggets-Mavs game
It was a foul, and the ref missed it. Wright should have sold it better, but the ref missed it. It wasn't an intentional miss, Salvatore was probably influenced by the context of the situation (crunch time) and did not call it. Melo hits the shot. But he should have been fouled.
Re: NBA admits mistake in Nuggets-Mavs game
While this IS embarrassing, Nuggets were still gonna win this series. If they lost today, they would have beaten the Mavs by 58 pts in game 4. LOL ok I'm just kidding, but I coulda seen the Nuggets win game 4 regardless and basically ending the series right there.
Re: NBA admits mistake in Nuggets-Mavs game
Yeah it was a bad call. But how can you say that the refs changed the outcome of the game? Nuggets would still have the ball, and time to get a good shot (from the league's best cluch player acording to stats).. The refs tried to give this game to the mavs, they didn't think melo would make that shot, but he did.
Re: NBA admits mistake in Nuggets-Mavs game
hahahhaha
RIDICULOUS!
Defender asked the ref to not call the foul and then was pissed that the foul wasn't called, funny funny stuff. NBA is cowardly
Re: NBA admits mistake in Nuggets-Mavs game
[QUOTE=~primetime~]would you ever see an intentional pass interference done in the NFL?[/QUOTE]
all the time, if the PI prevents a sure touchdown
Re: NBA admits mistake in Nuggets-Mavs game
[QUOTE=Doomsday Dallas]Actually... I thought the Warriors had a great chance...
You F*cking idiot.
The Warriors did great against us in the regular season, and many MAVS fans were worried about the match up.
Don Nelson?[/QUOTE]
Oh, how nice. You resort to name calling. :applause: :applause: How classy of you!!!! :applause: :applause: :applause:
Re: NBA admits mistake in Nuggets-Mavs game
[QUOTE=Geandily]hahahhaha
RIDICULOUS!
Defender asked the ref to not call the foul and then was pissed that the foul wasn't called, funny funny stuff. NBA is cowardly[/QUOTE]
Why do you keep repeating yourself to the point its becoming spam? Couple posters gave you some laughing emoticons about your post earlier and now you are milkin it.
Give it a rest.
Re: NBA admits mistake in Nuggets-Mavs game
This fact stands:
The defender raised his hands asking the ref to not call the foul, when the shot went in all of a sudden he wanted the foul to be called.
LAME apology by the NBA and I'll stop making posts like this when there's no more threads about it :D