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[QUOTE=bruceblitz][B]While I do agree, that the defense didn't step up, here's what the offense did....[/B]
Game logs NBA playoffs:
Mo Williams:
5-14 35.7%
8-13 61.5%
1-11 9.1%
9-14 64.3%
7-12 58.3%
5-11 45.5%
5-13 38.5%
4-11 36.4%
6-19 31.6%
7-21 33.3%
5-16 31.3%
5-15 33%
7-14 50%
6-12 50%
Delonte West:
5-8 62.5%
7-12 58.3%
0-7 0.0%
5-10 50%
5-11 45.5%
5-10 50%
4-8 50%
7-13 53.9%
4-13 30.8%
4-7 57.1%
5-11 45.5%
7-15 46.7%
6-13 46.2%
9-19 47.4%
Zydrunas Ilgauskas
5-12 41.7%
5-12 41.7%
6-13 46.2%
4-8 50.0%
2-9 22.0%
3-6 50.0%
6-9 66.7%
6-13 46.2%
5-11 45.5%
5-13 38.5%
3-10 30.0%
5-9 55.6%
6-8 75.0%
1-5 20.0%
Wally Szczerbiak
0-0 0.0%
0-1 0.0%
0-0 0.0%
1-2 50.0%
2-4 50.0%
7-9 77.8%
0-2 0.0%
3-4 75.0%
0-2 0.0%
0-0 0.0%
0-0 0.0%
1-4 25.0%
1-3 33.3%
1-5 20.0%
Daniel Gibson
2-3 66.7%
1-7 14.3%
2-5 40.0%
0-1 0.0%
2-3 66.7%
0-3 0.0%
0-3 0.0%
0-1 0.0%
0-0 0.0%
0-0 0.0%
0-1 0.0%
2-5 40.0%
3-5 60.0%
1-3 33.3%
Daniel Gibson in the Magic Series:
0-0 0.0%
0-0 0.0%
0-1 0.0%
2-5 40.0%
3-5 60.0%
1-3 33.3%
Mo Williams in the Magic series:
6-19 31.6%
7-21 33.3%
5-16 31.3%
5-15 33%
7-14 50%
6-12 50%
Wally Szczerbiak in the Magic series:
0-2 0.0%
0-0 0.0%
0-0 0.0%
1-4 25.0%
1-3 33.3%
1-5 20.0%
Zydrunas Ilgauskas in the Magic series:
5-11 45.5%
5-13 38.5%
3-10 30.0%
5-9 55.6%
6-8 75.0%
1-5 20.0%
[B]Between Mo Williams, Daniel Gibson, Wally Szczerbiak and Big Z they shot 38.6% in the Orlando Magic series, I thought that was a big reason why they lost?[/B]
Delonte West played alright, for his own standards, and so did Anderson Varejao. Even though Anderson at his best is still not as good as about half the power forwards in the league.[/QUOTE]
Now, can someone give me LeBron's Post game 1 %!?
[QUOTE=bruceblitz][B]Between Mo Williams, Daniel Gibson, Wally Szczerbiak and Big Z they shot 38.6% in the Orlando Magic series, I thought that was a big reason why they lost?[/B][/QUOTE]
So what ? Our offense, as a whole, was fine. LeBron made up for that with his play. We scored more than enough points to let our defense win games. But we were never able to get a defensive stop. That's what killed us.
I didn't have that big of a problem with him not shaking hands or talking to the media and really I'm not too bothered by this. Is it really as bad as David Robinson stat padding on the last day of the season with playoff position set against the Los Angeles Clippers so he could win the scoring title? Or is it really as bad as Wilt passing up shots so he could lead the league in assists? They weren't criticized for that. Superstars care about stats, but I don't think Lebron puts stats above winning. It's just a shirt, no big deal in my opinion.
[QUOTE=Mikaiel]So what ? Our offense, as a whole, was fine. LeBron made up for that with his play. We scored more than enough points to let our defense win games. But we were never able to get a defensive stop. That's what killed us.[/QUOTE]
Good to see a Cavs fan be unbias and not sniff LeBron's white Powder all the time!
Its sad that he does stuff like this...no matter what he means its tacky
[QUOTE=bruceblitz]You are trying to say that Rodman was in his prime with my Chicago Bulls?
:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:
They wouldn't win as many as Jordan did, that's for sure.[/QUOTE]
Who says LeBron/Kobe wouldn't win as many rings as Jordan with that Pippen/Rodman team (talking about second 3-peat since first 3-peat was a slightly different team)?? That Bulls team got 72 wins in 96 - it is not like Jordan carried the Bulls on his back in all 72 wins during that regular season and then the playoffs during the entire 2nd 3-peat.
-Rodman won like his 4th or 5th straight rebounding title that season so it wasn't like Rodman's game was finished when he was traded to Bulls. You can make the argument that his prime was from the 91-92 season going into 97-98 season. He is easily the greatest rebounder of the 90's, and you can make the case that he is the greatest rebounder of all time (considering that people like Wilt, Russell, etc were the tallest guys on the court in their era with the average height much lower than 6 feet so they would be able to out-rebound everyone around them. Rodman out-rebounded guys MUCH bigger than him). He was a better rebounder than what LeBron/Kobe had throughout their careers (yes, Rodman is better rebounder and man-on-man defender than Shaq). If you had a player averaging 16+ RPG (he would often get 20+ rebounds in a single game), you already have 1 very consistent variable. Rodman did not have too many off nights with his rebounding. We have not even talked about how good of a defender he was.
-Do I really have to say anything about Pippen? He is a top 5 SF of all time (I personally think he is the 3rd best SF of all time after Bird/LeBron). One of the most versatile players of all time, one of the top defenders of all time, etc etc etc. He is a much more consistent and better defensive version of today's Lamar Odom.
-They had Steve Kerr, who was probably the 2nd best 3pt-shooter of the 90's. I would say he was a better version of Mo Williams today from 3pt line. He is a better 3pt shooter than what LeBron/Kobe have today.
If you don't think that LeBron/Kobe would also have gotten a 3-peat during that 96-98 years (or MINIMUM of 2 rings) then you are completely delusional.
It's not a big deal. Have you guys ever heard the saying, "Check my tats" or ,"Check out my tats"? It's just a play off that and they put a $ in front.
"Check My Stat Whoring"!
[QUOTE=bladefd]Who says LeBron/Kobe wouldn't win as many rings as Jordan with that Pippen/Rodman team (talking about second 3-peat since first 3-peat was a slightly different team)?? That Bulls team got 72 wins in 96 - it is not like Jordan carried the Bulls on his back in all 72 wins during that regular season and then the playoffs during the entire 2nd 3-peat.
-Rodman won like his 4th or 5th straight rebounding title that season so it wasn't like Rodman's game was finished when he was traded to Bulls. You can make the argument that his prime was from the 91-92 season going into 97-98 season. He is easily the greatest rebounder of the 90's, and you can make the case that he is the greatest rebounder of all time (considering that people like Wilt, Russell, etc were the tallest guys on the court in their era with the average height much lower than 6 feet so they would be able to out-rebound everyone around them. Rodman out-rebounded guys MUCH bigger than him). He was a better rebounder than what LeBron/Kobe had throughout their careers (yes, Rodman is better rebounder and man-on-man defender than Shaq). If you had a player averaging 16+ RPG (he would often get 20+ rebounds in a single game), you already have 1 very consistent variable. Rodman did not have too many off nights with his rebounding. We have not even talked about how good of a defender he was.
-Do I really have to say anything about Pippen? He is a top 5 SF of all time (I personally think he is the 3rd best SF of all time after Bird/LeBron). One of the most versatile players of all time, one of the top defenders of all time, etc etc etc. He is a much more consistent and better defensive version of today's Lamar Odom.
-They had Steve Kerr, who was probably the 2nd best 3pt-shooter of the 90's. I would say he was a better version of Mo Williams today from 3pt line. He is a better 3pt shooter than what LeBron/Kobe have today.
If you don't think that LeBron/Kobe would also have gotten a 3-peat during that 96-98 years (or MINIMUM of 2 rings) then you are completely delusional.[/QUOTE]
Steve Kerr better version of Mo Williams? Steve Kerr averaged 8 points per gamer during that timespan. You obviously didn't watch those Bulls teams. [B][I]Have you ever heard of Glen Rice or Reggie Miller?[/I][/B]
Secondly, Rodman was a huge liability on offense, he couldn't create his own shot, but yes, he could rebound and play defense and no he wasn't in his prime.
If you think you would place LeBron/Kobe on that 3 peat team, and they would have won 3 championships, you are high... this is the [B]%'s of the team's points[/B] they would have needed to score in the Finals alone:
Michael Jordan
1991: 30.8% (W)
1992: 34.6% (W)
1993: 38.3% (W)
1996: 29.4% (W)
1997: 36.8% (W)
1998: 38.1% (W)
So while you give all of that credit to the team, Jordan scored over 35% of his team's points in the 6 title runs. Which is a lot to ask of any player.
[B][U]LeDouche Bronze[/U][/B]
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[B]Obviously, his ego is larger than life...[/B]
[B]He ain't no choosen one..!! He's a big ass douche who plays football on a basketball court..Plowing through players like a running back..He's lucky the refs bail him out on every play..All those offensive fouls sending him to the line for 2s free throws..[/B]
i guess it is a reply to the outrage he got after wearing the ME=MVP shirt.
it is like
lebron wears "LJB MVP" shirt
everything slams lbj
lebron responce by wearing "Check my $tats" shirt
Wtf is he.. 12?
[QUOTE=bruceblitz]Fatal9, I wish they would have kept you banned.
Fatal9 = LeBron James HATER / Kobe Bryant LOVER[/QUOTE]
BruceBlitz's brain capacity:
Hatred for Kobe 90%
Love for MJ 9%
Love for Lebron 1%
Brucey how my ass taste?
[QUOTE=miles berg]Mo Williams?
ROFL
Ok, Mo Williams ranks right up there with other great sidekicks of the modern era like Worthy, Kareem, Pippen, Kobe, Paul Pierce, & Gasol.
Right there on the same page![/QUOTE]Mo Williams may not be as good as some of those players but at one point i think Mo + LeBron was the highest duo in the League.
Players who led the league in 3pt fg% in the 90's:
Dell Curry
Dale Ellis
Glen Rice
Tim Legler
Tracy Murray
Chris Mullin
Dana Barros
Jim Les
Steve Kerr
Players who lead the league in 3pt fg's made in the 90's:
Vernon Maxwell
Dan Majerle
Reggie Miller
John Starks
Dennis Scott
Wesley Person
Dee Brown
You have Kerr ranked 2cnd out of all these shooters?
Steve Kerr isn't anywhere near most of those guys let alone John Stockton, Mark Price and Jeff Hornacek.