Remembering the Wu-Tang era

[QUOTE=Jackass18]So you can't go back and listen to Nas, Eminem, Biggie, Tupac, The Lost Boyz, NWA, OutKast, Mobb Deep, etc.?[/QUOTE]
I can listen to all that stuff today but it is just difficult to listen to that stuff and view it the same way as I did when I was a youngster...

I am too old for Eminem...f*ck him, his sh*t is intolerable to me, much like 50 Cent or The Game

I am too young for NWA/old Easy/Luke/ect...I was in elementary school when kids had to sneak that sh*t around...

Nas I can view the same as the Wu though...his stuff is intellegent and real enough to keep serious, but neither do him or any Wu get club play today...

Outkast may be different...but Southern Playlistic is the only Outkast I really liked to begin with ( I am old, the other stuff is considered "the sh*t that was made when Andre went gay" to me...:oldlol: )

Lost Boyz got little play from me, as well as everyone from bootcamp click

the first Mobb Deep was classic...the rest is garbage to me

still like Biggie, but more for nostoligic reasons and taking me back to my youth, he still gets played at clubs unlike the others (cept Pac)...

and I am one of the VERY VERY few that never really cared that much for Pac...I still liked him, but I never thought he was the rap god that everyone else did..."FEEEL ME!!!"....most overrated rapper ever if you ask me...

[QUOTE=~primetime~]I never knew back in the 90s...and I don't think anyone did...

we thought they just called each other "gods" because it was their slang...we didn't know they really thought that the black man was "god"....like literally...

I don't like that stupid ass pro black religious BS...and unfortunatly it is near impossible to aviod it on most of their sh*t...but not all of it...


back in the 90s then I didn't care...no one cared

I had a lench mob CD...:oldlol:

[IMG]http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51J7N7916HL._SS500_.jpg[/IMG]

that sh*t was really pro black...but no one gave a f*ck...

I knew awhite dude that loved Paris

[IMG]http://bjanepr.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/paris_-_the_devil_made_me_do_it1.jpg[/IMG]


paris was actually too pro black for me...he took it to the extreme...[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I understand that but The 5% Nation aka The Nation Of God's And Earths had a strong influence on Hip Hop in the late 80's early 90's.

When Rakim said on[U] "In The Ghetto", [/U] [B]"I'm glad I listened when my father was rapping to me/Cause back in the days they lived in caves Exiled from the original man & strayed away"[/B] that was 5% lingo.

When Brand Nubian said on [U]All For One[/U] [B]"You gotta know the ledge to wise thw dumb and understand your culture of freedom." [/B]That was 5% lingo.

When Big Daddy kane said, [B]"Wisdom I speak makes your head nod/Showin I got the power, and that's from bein born the god/But many doubt my knowledge of self[/B]" That was 5% lingo.

Even IceCube said on [U]"When will They Shoot", [/U] [B]"I met Farrakhan and had dinner/Now you ask am I 5 Percenter?" [/B]

T Rogers, the guy who started the Bloods in L.A. once said, when refering to what he thought of NY before the gangbanging, that he thought NY was an all 5% city. The 5% influence was real strong in NY and it was felt all over in the 80's and 90's. Yet a lot of people never really understood the lingo.

When The Wu Tang came out they went 5% lingo crazy. But they were always flipping it with their slang. When Ghostface said on [U]"97 Mentality"[/U] [B]"To The year Born God all the Gods strike hard fast from the swine hold down your boulevard Father U The C Cypher"[/B]

He was saying 'in the year 1997 all the Black men need to hold down their areas and stop eating pig and **** The cops." But u don't care and u didnt know the 5% lingo, u woulda missed it

You do have a good taste in hip-hop.

You're an idiot if you think Mobb Deep was garbage after Infamous.

[QUOTE=i seen hippos]You're an idiot if you think Mobb Deep was garbage after Infamous.[/QUOTE]

well, actually I just stopped listening after that...maybe it is good

I am old...what can I say

I was expecting comments more like this about Outkast rather than Mobb Deep though...I know there are posters here in love with post SPCM Outkast...when ATAliens came out it was just very very different then the Outkast that we grew to love, it was very difficult to accept...

[QUOTE=~primetime~]well, actually I just stopped listening after that...maybe it is good

I am old...what can I say

I was expecting comments more like this about Outkast rather than Mobb Deep though...I know there are posters here in love with post SPCM Outkast...when ATAliens came out it was just very very different then the Outkast that we grew to love, it was very difficult to accept...[/QUOTE]

Mobb Deep is my favorite rap duo/group of all time. I get defensive. lol

Although they haven't been good since Free Agents: The Murda Mix Tape.

Great thread. I ****ing love the Wu. Also, very interesting story, RBA.

[QUOTE=oh the horror]That sh*t was massive in the 90s and early 2000s...then they practically vanished, but lets take a moment to remember how dope they were
[/QUOTE]

Remember? I never forgot.

[IMG]http://student.valpo.edu/tbricker/wu-tang.jpg[/IMG]

[QUOTE=~primetime~]well, actually I just stopped listening after that...maybe it is good

I am old...what can I say

I was expecting comments more like this about Outkast rather than Mobb Deep though...I know there are posters here in love with post SPCM Outkast...when ATAliens came out it was just very very different then the Outkast that we grew to love, it was very difficult to accept...[/QUOTE]

I never knew anyone that had a problem accepting ATLiens and I'm probably older than you.

[QUOTE=Jackass18]I never knew anyone that had a problem accepting ATLiens and I'm probably older than you.[/QUOTE]

they are like 2 completely different groups altogether

look at Andre here:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YBFYZxu2dw[/url]
he was your normal everyday southern gangsta pimp...

look at when Andre went "weird" in ATLiens:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJFurh4S5Og[/url]
what the f*ck happened?


[B]F[COLOR="Black"]UC[/COLOR]KIN GANGSTA:[/B]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_OtjRHmV-g[/url]

[B]FU[COLOR="Black"]CK[/COLOR]IN GAY:[/B]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAeFEmp0WFU[/url]


and then from there it just got stranger and stranger...

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[IMG]http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/03/06/gal_costumes_03.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://myfashionlife.com/uploads/andre3000.jpg[/IMG]

Andre 3000 total bite off Kool Keith

... this if fact

I don't listen to rap for the costumes the performers wear.

^^^
e.badu f*cked up his head.

a few thoughts:

- great story, rba. i've actually heard a similar anecdote from a couple of sources now, but you told it supremely well. wu has this legendary reputation; so many great tales of their gangsterdom have emerged throughout the years. another cool story involves ODB, masta killa, meth and redman running into a record company exec's office with AK's to renegotiate/free them from a record contract.

- you're only 20 ridonks? wtf? i always thought you were at least 22 odd. damn, that makes me feel old. anyways, 'liquid swords' the pinnacle of wu's writing. so many great metaphors, double meanings in there; the word play is absolutely amazing.

- how did rza f*ck up triumph? he killed that verse IMO. cappa was horrible, though. i was always under the impression that cappa had his early verses written by someone else. 'winter warz' and 'iron maiden' were always too fresh to be cappa verses.

- masta killa is actually very dope. his first solo album is >>> 'tical', and his latest joint was very nice too.

[QUOTE=playtetris]^^^
e.badu f*cked up his head.

a few thoughts:

- great story, rba. i've actually heard a similar anecdote from a couple of sources now, but you told it supremely well. wu has this legendary reputation; so many great tales of their gangsterdom have emerged throughout the years. another cool story involves ODB, masta killa, meth and redman running into a record company exec's office with AK's to renegotiate/free them from a record contract.

- you're only 20 ridonks? wtf? i always thought you were at least 22 odd. damn, that makes me feel old. anyways, 'liquid swords' the pinnacle of wu's writing. so many great metaphors, double meanings in there; the word play is absolutely amazing.

- [COLOR="Red"]how did rza f*ck up triumph? he killed that verse IMO.[/COLOR] cappa was horrible, though. i was always under the impression that cappa had his early verses written by someone else. 'winter warz' and 'iron maiden' were always too fresh to be cappa verses.

- masta killa is actually very dope. his first solo album is >>> 'tical', and his latest joint was very nice too.[/QUOTE]
I agree, he is either a complete hit or miss IMO and in triumph he hit a damn home run...

[I]Watch for the wooden soldiers, C-Cypher-Punks couldn't hold us
A thousand men rushing in, not one n[COLOR="Black"]ig[/COLOR]ga was sober <---:lol
Perpendicular to the square, we stand bold like Flare
Escape from your Dragon's Lair, in particular
My beats travel like a vortex, through your spine
to the top of your cerebrum cortex
Make you feel like you bust a nut from raw sex
Enter through your right ventricle clog up your bloodstream
now terminal, like Grand Central Station
Program fat baselines, on Novation
Getting drunk like a ****, I'm duckin five-year probation[/I]

I know that "c-cypher-punks" are cops but what are the wooden soldiers?...is that a reference to chess peices or something?

[QUOTE=~primetime~]I agree, he is either a complete hit or miss IMO and in triumph he hit a damn home run...

[I]Watch for the wooden soldiers, C-Cypher-Punks couldn't hold us
A thousand men rushing in, not one n[COLOR="Black"]ig[/COLOR]ga was sober <---:lol
Perpendicular to the square, we stand bold like Flare
Escape from your Dragon's Lair, in particular
My beats travel like a vortex, through your spine
to the top of your cerebrum cortex
Make you feel like you bust a nut from raw sex
Enter through your right ventricle clog up your bloodstream
now terminal, like Grand Central Station
Program fat baselines, on Novation
Getting drunk like a ****, I'm duckin five-year probation[/I]

I know that "c-cypher-punks" are cops but what are the wooden soldiers?...is that a reference to chess peices or something?[/QUOTE]

the first few lines are very militaristic, and seem to depict an battalion of dudes bumrushing the cops when f*cked up. therefore, if we extend the metaphor, the wooden soldiers would be the "toys" of the army.

my favourite rza verses:

- 'wu tang clan ain't nuttin ta f*ck with' (how can you hate his verse in that?);
- 'nutmeg';
- '4th chamber' ("camouflaged chameleon, ninjas scaling your building, no time to grab the gun they already got your wife and children");
- 'wu gambinos'

[QUOTE=KoolKat]U-God is last tho :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
Haha I know I always try to rank my favorites, but it always changes.

At the moment it probably goes

Inspectah
ghostface
Method Man
gza
raekwon
odb
rza
masta
u god

Ol dirty bastard - Goin down
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ylvr8TSnI0Q"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ylvr8TSnI0Q[/URL]
always loved this song

ol dirty bastard - cuttin headz
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tn5pWHh0jdk"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tn5pWHh0jdk[/URL]

Raekwon - North Star
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZP39nPguKA"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZP39nPguKA[/URL]