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[QUOTE=Brunch@Five]you pretend to know how MJ was defended that game, but in the same breath are admitting that you haven't even seen the game. Do I smell hypocrit?[/QUOTE]
Bullshyt. I didn't pretend anything. I even admitted I didn't see the actual 69-point game. You don't have to see that one game to see how defenders were defending MJ back then, dumbass.
[QUOTE=Brunch@Five]sure, the individual overall performance may be better.
However, Kobe brought his team back from -20, outscored the opposing team, and didn't even need an overtime to A score 81 and B win the game.
Scoring 69 and getting 18 rebounds, but you're still nearly losing to a non-elite team? Not a good sign.
In terms of impact, Kobe's game was far better than any game I've ever seen.[/QUOTE]
You are contradicting yourself. The Cavs were actually a team that was over .500 that year, what was the Raptors record last year? While that Cavs team was not a great defensive team, it was better defensively in almost every single aspect over last year's Raptors and the junk that was guarding Kobe.
Kobe had an impressive 81, I just think 69 points on the same shooting percentage AND 18 rebounds and six assists is more impressive.
Anyways, the Jordan game starts in 1 minute. Watch and then discuss more.
[QUOTE=MaxFly]Again, for those who have never seen the 69 point game, ESPN Classic is showing it at 7pm EST.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the heads up.
*****, I dont get ESPN classic :cry:
[QUOTE=Brunch@Five]And the cavs had who? Craig Ehlo? :roll:
also, doesn't the name "Adrian Griffin" remind you of some pretty decent defensive stopper?[/QUOTE]
its a shame that the young kids hate on Craig Ehlo. how much do you know about his game??? oh thats right...just the Jordan shot. :rollingeyes:
Ehlo would be a GREAT role player in today's game. he'd start for pretty much any team in today's game. he wasnt a bad defender at all either. who the hell can guard prime MJ???
in his prime he averaged 13,5,and 4. if he played in today's game those numbers would be even higher.
[QUOTE=IGGYIVERSON] who the hell can guard prime MJ???
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joe dumars.
[QUOTE=xxxSuperStar]You are contradicting yourself. The Cavs were actually a team that was over .500 that year, what was the Raptors record last year? While that Cavs team was not a great defensive team, it was better defensively in almost every single aspect over last year's Raptors and the junk that was guarding Kobe.
Kobe had an impressive 81, I just think 69 points on the same shooting percentage AND 18 rebounds and six assists is more impressive.
Anyways, the Jordan game starts in 1 minute. Watch and then discuss more.[/QUOTE]
I'm not contradicting myself. By no means was I saying that the Cavs were worse than the Raps or anything. Just that I'd expect a great player having the best game of his life not needing OT to win a game against a mediocre ballclub.
Kobe's 81 caused a near 40-point-swing in favour of the Lakers, making the Lakers win comfortably with the 2nd best player (Odom) being off and playing horribly all night.
[QUOTE=lakers-city]joe dumars.[/QUOTE]
Dumars did the best job on MJ but everyone knows Jordan burned him for 40+ quite a few times.
i just laugh when people make fun of Craig Ehlo. he'd be better than half the league today.
[QUOTE=IGGYIVERSON]its a shame that the young kids hate on Craig Ehlo. how much do you know about his game??? oh thats right...just the Jordan shot. :rollingeyes:
Ehlo would be a GREAT role player in today's game. he'd start for pretty much any team in today's game. he wasnt a bad defender at all either. who the hell can guard prime MJ???
in his prime he averaged 13,5,and 4. if he played in today's game those numbers would be even higher.[/QUOTE]
neither do I hate on Ehlo, nor am I a young kid. From what I've seen of Craig Ehlo, he's not a better defender than Adrian Griffin or Josh Howard.
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Ehlo would be a GREAT role player in today's game. he'd start for pretty much any team in today's game. he wasnt a bad defender at all either. who the hell can guard prime MJ???
in his prime he averaged 13,5,and 4. if he played in today's game those numbers would be even higher.[/QUOTE]
You have to be consistent. You can't say that Ehlo would have been a great role player and then say that he would have averaged better than 13, 5 and 4. That's a second or third option...
[QUOTE=MaxFly]You have to be consistent. You can't say that Ehlo would have been a great role player and then say that he would have averaged better than 13, 5 and 4. That's a second or third option...[/QUOTE]
in today's game, he's definitely a legit 3rd option.....at least early 90s Ehlo is.
[QUOTE=IGGYIVERSON]in today's game, he's definitely a legit 3rd option.....at least early 90s Ehlo is.[/QUOTE]
Well if so, you can't say that he would be a role player. A thrid option and a role player aren't consistent descriptions.
plus, jordan did it against much better competition. kobe did it against the hopeless raptors
yea, sure the cavs were completely owning the league :rolleyes:
[QUOTE=lakers-city]yea, sure the cavs were completely owning the league :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
I don't think anyone said they were, but they were a playoff caliber team in a much slower game.