Re: Expected trade! Josh Howard to Wizards, Caron Butler to Mavericks
[QUOTE=Hawker]This is good s[COLOR="Black"]h[/COLOR]it. We'll be able to definitely challenge the Lakers and probably get past Denver with this trade.[/QUOTE]
Probably get past denver? Get real, nugs wish they could play dallas in the 1st AND 2nd rounds- there is nothing that any logical person could see that should make you think dallas could beat denver
Re: Expected trade! Josh Howard to Wizards, Caron Butler to Mavericks
Re: Expected trade! Josh Howard to Wizards, Caron Butler to Mavericks
lol...I looked for this thread...I guess if it was stickied that is why I didn't see it...
go figure
so the Wiz are just trying to unload Butler's salary I see?
okay...
Re: Expected trade! Josh Howard to Wizards, Caron Butler to Mavericks
[QUOTE=1~Gibson~1]well maybe they just want to cut salary and start over. Gilbo + Caron + Jamison didnt get the job done so now it's time for the Wiz to rebuild i guess :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
this.
what they really need to do is dump G-Bert's contract. Somehow find a way to void that sh!t.
once they get rid of the oldies and the bad contracts, they can finally rebuild a new team.
and take this Dallas-San Antonio BS outta here...no1 cares
Re: Expected trade! Josh Howard to Wizards, Caron Butler to Mavericks
[QUOTE=kentatm]Your attempt at trolling and diverting is pathetic.
You came in and said this trade doesn't make them better than the Spurs. The Mavs currently lead the season series vs the Spurs. They are higher in the standings. They kicked the hell out of them in the playoffs last year. Yet your reasoning for the Spurs being better THIS year is they have some titles from a few years ago. Never mind you said they have never won a big game and when we rightly point out they took the Spurs on their court in a game 7 you backpeddled it to "oh well that's not a title so it's not a big game and doesn't count.". What are you? 12 years old?
I am in awe of your incredible basketball intellect.[/QUOTE]
Spurs fans logic for every argument is the titles they won a few years ago.
Re: Expected trade! Josh Howard to Wizards, Caron Butler to Mavericks
Are they even under the cap after this move? The Wiz I mean. What will their situation be for the big summer of free agents?
Re: Expected trade! Josh Howard to Wizards, Caron Butler to Mavericks
looks like the west got tougher...if haywood and butler are sent to dallas thats a pretty good deal for them...top 4 team...
Re: Expected trade! Josh Howard to Wizards, Caron Butler to Mavericks
[QUOTE=RapsFan]Are they even under the cap after this move? The Wiz I mean. What will their situation be for the big summer of free agents?[/QUOTE]
if Dallas also trades their TE for Oberto as dallasbasketball.com is guessing, the Wiz will be under the cap for this year.
Re: Expected trade! Josh Howard to Wizards, Caron Butler to Mavericks
[QUOTE=RapsFan]Are they even under the cap after this move? The Wiz I mean. What will their situation be for the big summer of free agents?[/QUOTE]
A lot of that depends on the decision on Arenas and whether he can be voided.
Counting Arenas they'll have 35 mill on the books in the summer...meaning about 17-20 mill in cap space.
Re: Expected trade! Josh Howard to Wizards, Caron Butler to Mavericks
Re: Expected trade! Josh Howard to Wizards, Caron Butler to Mavericks
I find it strange that the Wiz couldn't find a team to offer them more, if they were just looking to dump them anyway...
Is this where us Mavs fans should be greatful that we have an owner like Cuban who will take on any contract without care???
go CUBAN!!!
:applause:
should take a few weeks to gell...after that it should be interesting to see what this team will be like...
Re: Expected trade! Josh Howard to Wizards, Caron Butler to Mavericks
Josh Howard has a team option right so Wizards could just kill his deal and this is basically 3 expirers?
Wizards Acquire Howard, Gooden, Singleton, and Ross From Mavericks
[url]http://www.nba.com/wizards/news/trade_100213.html[/url]
Washington Wizards President Ernie Grunfeld announced today that the team has acquired Josh Howard, Drew Gooden, James Singleton and Quinton Ross from the Dallas Mavericks in exchange for Caron Butler, Brendan Haywood and DeShawn Stevenson.
"This trade gave us a good opportunity to change our short-term future and improve our long-term future," said Grunfeld. "It accomplished two goals by giving us financial flexibility and bringing a new look and energy to the roster."
Howard has averaged 12.5 points and 3.6 rebounds in 31 games for the Mavericks this season. He missed 19 games due to a left ankle injury and left wrist surgery and also missed two games due to a left thigh contusion and stomach illness. The seventh-year swingman holds career averages of 15.3 points and 6.0 rebounds in 431 games (all with Dallas) and was named to the 2007 All-Star Team. He was originally acquired by the Mavericks in the first round (29th pick) of the 2003 Draft.
Gooden, in his eighth season, has averaged 8.9 points, 6.9 rebounds and 1.1 blocks in 46 games Dallas this season. The 6-10 forward/center has career averages of 11.8 points and 7.8 rebounds over 556 games in stints with Orlando (twice), Memphis, Cleveland (twice), Chicago (twice), San Antonio, Sacramento and Dallas. He was signed as a free agent by Dallas prior to this season and was originally a first round draft pick (fourth overall) by Memphis in 2002.
Ross, a 6-6 swingman, has averaged 2.0 points and 1.0 rebounds in 27 games with the Mavericks this season. He is in his sixth season overall and holds career averages of 4.5 points and 2.3 rebounds in 397 career games with the L.A. Clippers, Memphis and Dallas. Ross, who was undrafted out of SMU, was signed as a free agent by Dallas prior to this season. Singleton, a 6-8 forward, has averaged 2.4 points and 2.2 rebounds in 25 games this season. He holds career averages of 3.3 points and 3.1 rebounds over four NBA seasons (two each with the Clippers and Mavericks). Singleton, who was undrafted out of Murray State, has played overseas in Spain and Italy and was originally acquired by Dallas as a free agent prior to the 2008-09 season.
"Our four new players bring versatility and the experience of playing in a winning situation," said Grunfeld. "Josh and Quinton can each play both the shooting guard and small forward positions while providing athleticism and outside shooting. Drew can play both the power forward and center positions and he and James give us an inside presence that combines skill and toughness."
Butler departs after spending four-and-a-half seasons with the Wizards, during which he compiled averages of 19.0 points, 6.6 rebounds and 3.5 assists in 310 games. He was originally acquired by the team along with Chucky Atkins from the L.A. Lakers in exchange for Kwame Brown and LaRon Profit prior to the 2005-06 season. Haywood was the longest-tenured player on the Wizards roster prior to the trade, spending eight-and-a-half seasons with the team, and leaves with averages of 7.7 points, 6.3 rebounds and 1.5 blocks in 579 games while ranking third all-time in franchise history in field goal percentage (.561), fourth all-time in blocked shots and sixth all-time in rebounds and games played. He was originally acquired from the Orlando Magic in exchange for LaRon Profit and a first-round pick prior to the 2001-02 season. Stevenson spent three-and-a-half seasons with the Wizards, compiling averages of 9.0 points, 3.6 rebounds and 3.3 assists in 236 games. He was originally signed by the Wizards as a free agent prior to the 2006-07 season.
"Caron, Brendan and DeShawn all made significant contributions to this franchise and this community, but we felt this opportunity was too good to pass up," said Grunfeld. "We wish all three players the best and thank them for what they helped us accomplish during their tenures with the Wizards."
Re: Expected trade! Josh Howard to Wizards, Caron Butler to Mavericks
great trade for the mavs.
as a laker fan I wasn't worried about them before but I am now.
its pretty much between the lakers, nuggets and mavs as to who will represent the west.
Re: Expected trade! Josh Howard to Wizards, Caron Butler to Mavericks
[QUOTE=GOBB]Josh Howard has a team option right so Wizards could just kill his deal and this is basically 3 expirers?[/QUOTE]
4 expirers. Howard, Ross. Singleton, Gooden.