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[QUOTE=Roundball_Rock]No. Peak Shaq was better than anyone other than peak Kareem and Wilt and overall he is top 5 all-time. Kobe [I]may [/I]wind up with the better career but the peak vs. peak debate will always go to Shaq.[/QUOTE]
Not even those two. Prime Shaq was better than prime KAJ and prime Wilt were.
[QUOTE=King Kong]simple question[/QUOTE]
more like stupid question
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Prime shaq is the second most dominant player that I've seen, after of course MJ.
Errrr, do people realize that peak Shaq actually dictated other playoff teams' roster moves and free agency acquisitions? Teams like Blazers, Mavs, and even Eastern Conference teams like the Pacers would actually revolve their free agency and trades around trying to get guys--not to stop Shaq but just to give themselves hope that he wouldn't destroy their entire frontcourt within the first half.
1999-2005 Kobe was usually compared and debated against Vince Carter, Tmac, Iverson. 1999-2004 Shaq was usually compared and debated against Wilt, Kareem, Moses Malone.
I remember watching playoff series after playoff series during their run where the other team would TRIPLE team him once he caught the ball in the paint and they'd have no chance...
Prime Shaq is the MDE. He's better than Kobe, and that applies for the player and the poster. :oldlol:
Yes.
I'm actually going to be objective (i'm surprised as much as you are): Kobe is BETTER IN HIS PRIME THAN SHAQ...in that he's always been a more skilled basketball player. Is he GREATER THOUGH? Absolutely not. Shaq hasn't earned the coinage of " MOST DOMINANT OF ALL TIME" because he didn't do shit. It kind of turns my face into a scowl remembering how hard it was to guard him even you had Big Sabas...ugh. Kobe was NEVER THAT GUY. The guy you feared because you knew there was nothing you could do...Shaq was that guy. Ugh...lol. Facing shaq in the early 2000s was like facing the inevitable...you just could do nothing against that ****ing bastard lol.
People hated that Laker team because of Shaq...not Kobe.
[QUOTE=Smoke117]I'm actually going to be objective (i'm surprised as much as you are): Kobe is BETTER IN HIS PRIME THAN SHAQ...in that he's always been a more skilled basketball player. Is he GREATER THOUGH? Absolutely not. Shaq hasn't earned the coinage of " MOST DOMINANT OF ALL TIME" because he didn't do shit. It kind of turns my face into a scowl remembering how hard it was to guard him even you had Big Sabas...ugh. Kobe was NEVER THAT GUY. The guy you feared because you knew there was nothing you could do...Shaq was that guy. Ugh...lol. Facing shaq in the early 2000s was like facing the inevitable...you just could do nothing against that ****ing bastard lol.[/QUOTE]What does skill have to do with being better? If you're athleticism dwarfs the rest of the league, it doesn't matter if you aren't the most skilled player. Lebron, for example, was never the most skilled player in the NBA but has been arguably the best for the last 7-8 years.
No. I'd only take two players in NBA history over Prime Shaq.
2001 Kobe at 21-22 yrs old was as good as prime Shaq.
[QUOTE=ImKobe]2001 Kobe at 21-22 yrs old was as good as prime Shaq.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Batz]Tony Parker will never be the same..[/QUOTE]
I remember Parker BOUNCING off Shaq once. And the answer to OP is HELL, NO - few were. Prime Shaq was a monster.
[QUOTE=Mr Feeny]What does skill have to do with being better? If you're athleticism dwarfs the rest of the league, it doesn't matter if you aren't the most skilled player. Lebron, for example, was never the most skilled player in the NBA but has been arguably the best for the last 7-8 years.[/QUOTE]
True. I wont argue with you, cat.