Discuss how/why the Celtics just beat the Lakers in 2010 NBA Finals game 5

[QUOTE=RedBlackAttack]Didn't say he wasn't terrible and I know that it was a huge game. Still, Game 2 was big, too. Losing home court and failing to maintain the momentum in this series was pretty big with a three-game swing in Boston on the horizon.

Pau was fantastic in that game. Let's not just dismiss his excellent games and over-emphasize his bad ones.[/QUOTE]
just be glad the next two are at home

[QUOTE=Story Up]I love Pau more then any other big man but he has yet to prove to me that he is capable of stepping up in BIG games; game 2 was big every game in this series was big but tonights game far exceeds the importance of game two.[/QUOTE]
I don't completely disagree, but if you guys win Game 2, the entire complexion of this series changes and you are almost certainly not down 3-2 at the moment.

[QUOTE=RedBlackAttack]I don't completely disagree, but if you guys win Game 2, the entire complexion of this series changes and you are almost certainly not down 3-2 at the moment.[/QUOTE]

I was blaming Kobe for wasting a great effort by Pau & Andrew in game two as well; but this game was a lot more painful to me.

I dont think Gasol has ever really been particularly happy playing with kobe, seems to ebb and flow from game to game, and funnily enough Gasols good games, usually comes from him getting his shots regularly, and when kobe goes on a ME quarter, Gasol can switch off...I mean, its almost like some games, Gasol just sits back and lets Kobe self-destruct the team, I reckon if Kobe made a conscious effort to get Gasol all the touches he deserves, then we could be seeing the Gasol we know he can be...

History is about to be made. Celtics are 11-0 when ahead 3-2 in the Finals, and Phil is 47-0 when winning Game 1. Something has to give. Team faded in the 3rd quarter. More importantly, they didn't get stops the entire game. There's obvious tension in the locker room, anyone with common sense notices that Odom was calling Kobe out during his interview.

Ron's jumper is bankrupt, Gasol crawled into a corner when he saw KG and Rasheed, and Odom is too busy eating candy. Smh. About to be the toughest games of their life, or the easiest depending on how they want to go out.

They obviously won on their awesome chants. The oh so classy 'no means no' and 'ugly sister' (at Odom) might not be tasteful but they are really funny :oldlol:

[QUOTE=Killer_Instinct]anyone with common sense notices that Odom was calling Kobe out during his interview.

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What was said? I didnt see the interview.

[QUOTE=oh the horror]What was said? I didnt see the interview.[/QUOTE]


He was being questioned on what went wrong tonight. His response was that "We didn't get stops. [B]Rondo was making those jumpers[/B]..we didn't adjust..we were right there..we just didn't get stops." A reporter asked a similar question and it became blatant what he was trying to get across. His response(and I'm parpaphrasing here) was

"We just didn't get stops...you know, [B]the Celtics...even if they go through dry spells...they still have a chance and play D because they keep everyone involved in the offense[/B]...they move the ball so well. Everyone's involved..." He kind of grinned. "We just didn't get stops."

Barkley and Kenny discussed it for a bit, but the random tid bit of the Celtics spreading the rock was clear. He feels like they weren't as motivated because they didn't get the touches. I'm not saying this as fact, but he just threw that in there. Question had 0 to do with the answer. Seeing as how Bean went crazy in the 3rd(rightfully so) I just allude this to being what he meant.

Hope this isn't the case, because if they're having issues [B]NOW[/B], this series is over.

[QUOTE=Killer_Instinct]He was being questioned on what went wrong tonight. His response was that "We didn't get stops. [B]Rondo was making those jumpers[/B]..we didn't adjust..we were right there..we just didn't get stops." A reporter asked a similar question and it became blatant what he was trying to get across. His response(and I'm parpaphrasing here) was

"We just didn't get stops...you know, [B]the Celtics...even if they go through dry spells...they still have a chance and play D because they keep everyone involved in the offense[/B]...they move the ball so well. Everyone's involved..." He kind of grinned. "We just didn't get stops."

Barkley and Kenny discussed it for a bit, but the random tid bit of the Celtics spreading the rock was clear. He feels like they weren't as motivated because they didn't get the touches. I'm not saying this as fact, but he just threw that in there. Question had 0 to do with the answer. Seeing as how Bean went crazy in the 3rd(rightfully so) I just allude this to being what he meant.

Hope this isn't the case, because if they're having issues [B]NOW[/B], this series is over.[/QUOTE]

this mother****er cant even get more than 40 pts in pop a shot and hes even talking to the interviewers.

It was embarrassing watching the Lakers D up Paul Pierce. This dude is purely a stepback midrange jumpshooter now, yet nobody on the Lakers would get up into his jersey. They kept playing 2 feet off him on every jab step like he has Rondo quickness. On the other side, the Celtics were playing Kobe so close they were basically stepping on his toes--forcing him to take difficult fadeaways, runners, and 3's (which he amazingly made).

Bottom line, if you let Paul Pierce torch you on the kind of shots he got (old man step backs), then your defense is trash and you don't deserve to win.

[QUOTE=Derka]
Kobe should be playing Rondo more tightly on defense. Given how poorly the defensive rotations are on the LA side right now added to the fact that Bynum is not playing the middle right now at anything near 100%, does it really help the Lakers defense to give Rondo THAT much room to run things and pick them apart?[/QUOTE]
I think Lakers doesnt do that because of two reasons - it would tire Kobe more, and also they [I]prefer [/I]Rondo taking jumpshots.

Celtics D has been amazing, Pierce and Rondo are dominating, Garnet has stepped up, and no one else on the Lakers is helping Kobe out.

The Celtics play championship defense, and that is what's going to win them the title.

[QUOTE=Killer_Instinct]He was being questioned on what went wrong tonight. His response was that "We didn't get stops. [B]Rondo was making those jumpers[/B]..we didn't adjust..we were right there..we just didn't get stops." A reporter asked a similar question and it became blatant what he was trying to get across. His response(and I'm parpaphrasing here) was

"We just didn't get stops...you know, [B]the Celtics...even if they go through dry spells...they still have a chance and play D because they keep everyone involved in the offense[/B]...they move the ball so well. Everyone's involved..." He kind of grinned. "We just didn't get stops."

Barkley and Kenny discussed it for a bit, but the random tid bit of the Celtics spreading the rock was clear. [B]He feels like they weren't as motivated because they didn't get the touches.[/B] I'm not saying this as fact, but he just threw that in there. Question had 0 to do with the answer. Seeing as how Bean went crazy in the 3rd(rightfully so) I just allude this to being what he meant.

Hope this isn't the case, because if they're having issues [B]NOW[/B], this series is over.[/QUOTE]

Honestly makes me lose even more respect for him as a basketball player...he needs stops to play hard in the NBA Finals...what a loser, and an underachiever.

The Lakers have one day to get their act straight.

Yes they are going to be home etc. but the Celtics are a great road team and they know how to close out a series. What makes me nervous right now is the state of this Lakers team. They got straight up outplayed yesterday...key guys Odom, Gasol, Artest, Fisher ( I give Bynum a pass) all did not show up.

I don't know what miracle Phil can pull out right now but last night the Laker looked beat up and you know the C's smell blood.

So game 6 huge game...I made a whole bunch of predictions this series before it started and before each game etc. Got some right and some wrong...I would like to say I have NO IDEA what will happen Tuesday night...and if it gets to a game 7 it's a damn toss up IMO.

If I was a fan of another team just watching I would love this series right now. Take that the refs been making crazy calls away you got to love it if this goes 7 games. I am hoping for the best that the Lakers win Game 6 and Game 7 will be Thursday night. But if everyone not names Kobe on the Lakers decides not to show up again......it's curtains.

Defense, Boards, Hustle, and ball movement on offense...that's what the Lakeshow needs.

Two plays basically told the story of this game:

First the rondo push of Artest, I think the Rondo-Artest play was very important since it basically showed the toughness of the Celtics team. I've never seen anyone other than Ben Wallace stand up to Artest and we know what that lead to. Kenyon Martin, Artest, Rasheed, Ben Wallace have you seen anyone stand up to those guys it would be like Steve Nash pushing Kenyon Martin after a hard foul on Amare. The Celtics had been saying all year that the Celtics were scared of Artest every since the first time the played in Feb. Kobe even said they seen the look in Artest eyes and all the Celtics were "shook" of him. The lead was 1 when this happened and the lead only went up after this happened

And a step back jumper of Pierce on Odom, Odom just puts his hand up and almost blocks the jumper of course it goes in but if he jumps even slightly it's a blocked shot. The Lakers as a whole didn't show much effort on Defense in basically the last 4 games.

I have a theory on playoff series the team that gets the easier looks on shots no matter if you make or miss them will win the series. Most if not all the Lakers shots have been heavily contested while the Celtics have been shooting open shots or layups fo the last 4 games.