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[QUOTE=Lakas Fan Yo]Since when was Spain versus USA friendly game a Euroleague game? Since when does it have anything to do with a Euroleague game? Apparently you do not even know what the Euroleague is.
Rubio's easiest games are when he plays against Team USA because the [B]US doesn't put any effort into[/B] defense. Rubio in FIBA, or Euroleague has never been a good offensive player.[/QUOTE]
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Important notice:
LakasFanYo is simply making propaganda to make people hate international basketball, and piss you off. He doesn't know a single thing about NBA [B]nor[/B] international basketball. Don't let him get his way.
There, my 2 pennies for ISH.
[QUOTE=BlueCrayon]So all the games in the euroleague are close games?[/QUOTE]
Brandon Jennings could barely even make a basket in the Euroleague. With barely any NBA experience he scored 55 in a game. The defense in the Euroleague is vastly superior to the defense in the NBA.
[QUOTE=Lakas Fan Yo]LOL...............unbelievable.[/QUOTE]
How so? I actually want to hear the full explanation that Euroleauge players are more skilled at defense than the Americans.
[QUOTE=MasterDurant24]How so? I actually want to hear the full explanation that Euroleauge players are more skilled at defense than the Americans.[/QUOTE]
His reason is in the NBA there are blowouts.
[QUOTE=MasterDurant24]So wait, are you saying that the Euro's leauge defense is better than the defense of the past? Because they put up those numbers back then as well. Before the removal of handchecking and the addition of the 3 seconds in the lane rule. And that's when they put a bunch of effort into defense. I surely don't see any defenders busting their ass like Charles Oakley, Dennis Rodman, Bruce Bowen, Ben Wallace, Kurt Rambis, Dave Debusschere, or just plain dominant on D like Bill Russell, Hakeem, D-Rob, Garnett, Jordan, Payton, or Stockton.[/QUOTE]
How do I have to explain it to you? The NBA plays no defense. It never has, except for that 90s era. Why do you think that EVERY NBA fan that is American repeats the same EXACT catch phrase?
"Euros can't defend"? Why is that universal amongst all American NBA fans as a belief?
It's because you are told it endlessly, over and over, by NBA related media and marketing for years now. It is a never ending NBA marketing gimmick. And the reason why it is such an enormous point of emphasis is because that the NBA does not play defense and is designed that way.
It's an entertainment show and not a serious sports competition. The only time that defense is allowed even is during the playoffs. That's why only certain kinds of Americans are ever able to play in big clubs in Europe.
It's a very select and certain type of American player. The typical American players that cannot play any defense and don't even know how, simply cannot play in the high level in Europe. But in the NBA they can even have excellent careers. Because they can jump high, they can dunk, etc. It;s what the NBA wants.
The NBA is about ratings. The Euroleague is about competition. It's that simple and the fact that most NBA fans have not yet figured that out is actually rather pathetic.
It's amazing to watch say an NFL game and then an NBA game and to think that most sports fans in the US can't seem to see the difference. NFL is a competition, NBA is sports entertainment, just one small step above the WWE.
[QUOTE=Lakas Fan Yo]How do I have to explain it to you? The NBA plays no defense. It never has, except for that 90s era. Why do you think that EVERY NBA fan that is American repeats the same EXACT catch phrase?
"Euros can't defend"? Why is that universal amongst all American NBA fans as a belief?
It's because you are told it endlessly, over and over, by NBA related media and marketing for years now. It is a never ending NBA marketing gimmick. And the reason why it is such an enormous point of emphasis is because that the NBA does not play defense and is designed that way.
It's an entertainment show and not a serious sports competition. The only time that defense is allowed even is during the playoffs. That's why only certain kinds of Americans are ever able to play in big clubs in Europe.
It's a very select and certain type of American player. The typical American players that cannot play any defense and don't even know how, simply cannot play in the high level in Europe. But in the NBA they can even have excellent careers. Because they can jump high, they can dunk, etc. It;s what the NBA wants.
The NBA is about ratings. The Euroleague is about competition. It's that simple and the fact that most NBA fans have not yet figured that out is actually rather pathetic.
It's amazing to watch say an NFL game and then an NBA game and to think that most sports fans in the US can't seem to see the difference. NFL is a competition, NBA is sports entertainment, just one small step above the WWE.[/QUOTE]
Just wondering what country are you from?
[QUOTE=Lakas Fan Yo]How do I have to explain it to you? The NBA plays no defense. It never has, except for that 90s era. Why do you think that EVERY NBA fan that is American repeats the same EXACT catch phrase?
"Euros can't defend"? Why is that universal amongst all American NBA fans as a belief?
It's because you are told it endlessly, over and over, by NBA related media and marketing for years now. It is a never ending NBA marketing gimmick. And the reason why it is such an enormous point of emphasis is because that the NBA does not play defense and is designed that way.
It's an entertainment show and not a serious sports competition. The only time that defense is allowed even is during the playoffs. That's why only certain kinds of Americans are ever able to play in big clubs in Europe.
It's a very select and certain type of American player. The typical American players that cannot play any defense and don't even know how, simply cannot play in the high level in Europe. But in the NBA they can even have excellent careers. Because they can jump high, they can dunk, etc. It;s what the NBA wants.
The NBA is about ratings. The Euroleague is about competition. It's that simple and the fact that most NBA fans have not yet figured that out is actually rather pathetic.
It's amazing to watch say an NFL game and then an NBA game and to think that most sports fans in the US can't seem to see the difference. NFL is a competition, NBA is sports entertainment, just one small step above the WWE.[/QUOTE]
Okay break down how to play defense and tell us how NBA players can't do it, you probably don't have a clue of how to play the game.
[QUOTE=MasterDurant24]How so? I actually want to hear the full explanation that Euroleauge players are more skilled at defense than the Americans.[/QUOTE]
You don't listen. NBA is a league where you are not supposed to play defense. There is a handful of players that defend in the whole league. In a lot of European clubs, like say Greek or Adriatic ones, most NBA players would be benched, or cut within a week.
Because they don't defend and it's not allowed. If LeBron took off a play on defense in Europe he would be benched and then the press and fans would be mad at him. In the NBA if the coach did that he would probably be fired the next day.
It has nothing to do with "defensive skills". You are just imagining nonsense and making things up. It's simply that the NBA is a league that emphasizes not to play defense.
It's not just good FIBA level, or good European leagues either. It's most leagues other than the NBA. And it's also NCAA. NCAA plays way harder defense and more physical game than what you see in the NBA.
[QUOTE=BlueCrayon]His reason is in the NBA there are blowouts.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, and it's ironic when many of the games so far have been blowouts.
[QUOTE=UNCNY]Just wondering what country are you from?[/QUOTE]
I'm Basque. And yes, I think the ACB has the worst defense of all the important leagues in Europe.
[QUOTE=Lakas Fan Yo]You don't listen. NBA is a league where you are not supposed to play defense. There is a handful of players that defend in the whole league. In a lot of European clubs, like say Greek or Adriatic ones, most NBA players would be benched, or cut within a week.
Because they don't defend and it's not allowed. If LeBron took off a play on defense in Europe he would be benched and then the press and fans would be mad at him. In the NBA if the coach did that he would probably be fired the next day.
It has nothing to do with "defensive skills". You are just imagining nonsense and making things up. It's simply that the NBA is a league that emphasizes not to play defense.
It's not just good FIBA level, or good European leagues either. It's most leagues other than the NBA. And it's also NCAA. NCAA plays way harder defense and more physical game than what you see in the NBA.[/QUOTE]The NCAA part I agree with you on but I don't enjoy the NCAA more only because of that. I find the atmosphere better,and the long NBA season is hard to watch until playoffs when it gets interesting.
[QUOTE=Lakas Fan Yo]You don't listen. NBA is a league where you are not supposed to play defense. There is a handful of players that defend in the whole league. In a lot of European clubs, like say Greek or Adriatic ones, most NBA players would be benched, or cut within a week.
Because they don't defend and it's not allowed. If LeBron took off a play on defense in Europe he would be benched and then the press and fans would be mad at him. In the NBA if the coach did that he would probably be fired the next day.
It has nothing to do with "defensive skills". You are just imagining nonsense and making things up. It's simply that the NBA is a league that emphasizes not to play defense.
It's not just good FIBA level, or good European leagues either. It's most leagues other than the NBA. And it's also NCAA. NCAA plays way harder defense and more physical game than what you see in the NBA.[/QUOTE]
I'm going to ask this one more time: are you even able to watch all of the NBA games over where you live?
By the way everybody; here's some videos of Euroleauge to compare:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dC5rsGBLnq0[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvY8ZRjpS2c&feature=related[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGqQSHQ4Kv8&feature=related[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4JfDr6jczY&feature=related[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhuN2yi4ZW4&feature=related[/url]
[QUOTE=UNCNY]The NCAA part I agree with you on but I don't enjoy the NCAA more only because of that. I find the atmosphere better,and the long NBA season is hard to watch until playoffs when it gets interesting.[/QUOTE]
So you agree with me then. So why are you arguing so much about it?
[QUOTE=Lakas Fan Yo]So you agree with me then. So why are you arguing so much about it?[/QUOTE]
He said the NCAA part.