Worse big men are making that much money. Good deal for a good center. The Bulls haters on this board are outrageous. :oldlol: It's like a constant Bulls hate campaign here.
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Worse big men are making that much money. Good deal for a good center. The Bulls haters on this board are outrageous. :oldlol: It's like a constant Bulls hate campaign here.
[QUOTE=YAWN]wow, talk about overpaid :hammerhead:[/QUOTE]
How is it overpaid when bigs make close or more than that? Camby just got 21 million for 2 years and he's 36. This isn't some mind boggling contract.
[QUOTE=Pharcyde]How is it overpaid when bigs make close or more than that? Camby just got 21 million for 2 years and he's 36. This isn't some mind boggling contract.[/QUOTE]
Camby is a beast.
[QUOTE=Willkill24]Camby is a beast.[/QUOTE]
And Noah is better then Camby.
Hopefully he doesnt pull an injury on an off day like Boozer. Dude is making bank.
[QUOTE=Skep]Hopefully he doesnt pull an injury on an off day like Boozer. Dude is making bank.[/QUOTE]
Noah's smoking bud on his off days. He's way too chill to do some shit like that. :lol
I agree with the Bulls fans in here. Compared to what other C's are getting paid and what Noah provides, this was a good deal for them. I suppose all you guys complaining are ok with players like Brendan Haywood, Andrew Bynum, Emeka Okafor, David Lee, getting paid in the $10-15 million range, but not Noah? Noah's better than all those guys. Especially with Boozer's latest injury, they're gonna need him big time. To the idiots who are crapping on the Bulls for not trading him for Melo, this is why they need Noah. Say they did trade him and Deng or whoever for Melo. Boozer goes down with this injury, and the Bulls are left with Taj Gibson, Omer Asik, and Kurt Thomas as the bigs. Not very reassuring. It's NOT about Melo, it's about what's more important to Chicago, and with an injury prone guy like Booze aboard, Noah's going to be extremely important.
If Varejao got 5 years 50 mill .. i think 5YR/60 mill is pretty damn good for noah.. he is twice the play Andy V is ..
nice signing bulls ..
haywood got 5Yr 55mil??? soo yeah again.. nice signing bulls
This is an absolutely terrible deal for the Bulls. Why? Because you don't even have to give this guy a ****ING CONTRACT THIS YEAR!
The CBA expires after this season. After that, it's very likely that we'll see a pretty massive makeover to the whole contract structuring process, and likely that we'll have a lockout as a result. After all that gets settled players will be taking a MASSIVE paycut. This deal will look insane when that happens.
Think - the Bulls could have avoided this by NOT extending him, waiting until he's a restricted free agent (and when the new CBA kicks in) and would have likely gotten him for 8 mill/year at MOST.
Don't point to contracts of guys who were unrestricted this summer or signed previously - they're overpaid contracts are irrelevant. Noah's was completely avoidable.
[QUOTE=craiye]This is an absolutely terrible deal for the Bulls. Why? Because you don't even have to give this guy a ****ING CONTRACT THIS YEAR!
The CBA expires after this season. After that, it's very likely that we'll see a pretty massive makeover to the whole contract structuring process, and likely that we'll have a lockout as a result. After all that gets settled players will be taking a MASSIVE paycut. This deal will look insane when that happens.
Think - the Bulls could have avoided this by NOT extending him, waiting until he's a restricted free agent (and when the new CBA kicks in) and would have likely gotten him for 8 mill/year at MOST.
Don't point to contracts of guys who were unrestricted this summer or signed previously - they're overpaid contracts are irrelevant. Noah's was completely avoidable.[/QUOTE]
Let's see how the new CBA turns out before talking like this.
This contract isn't nearly as bad as some others. There are more swingmen that average 15-20 PPG than there are defensive specialist big men that can grab 10 rebounds and block 2 shots a night.
[b]Northwest[/b]
Camby - 7.6 (7.5/11.8/2)
Nene - 10.5 (13.8/7.6/1)
Okur - 9 (13.5/7.1/1.1)
Ibaka - 1.1 (6.3/5.4/1.3)
Jefferson - 12 (17.1/9.3/1.3)
[b]Pacific[/b]
Hawes - 2.3 (10/6.1/1.2)
Beidrens 9 (5/7.8/1.3)
Bynum - 12.5 (15/8.3/1.4)
Kaman - 10.4 (18.5/9.3/1.2)
R. Lopez - 1.7 (8.4/4.9/1.0)
[b]Southwest[/b]
Haywood - 6 (9.1/9.3/2.1)
Ming - 16.3 (DNP)
McDyess - 3 (5.8/5.9/0.4)
Okafor - 10.5 (10.4/9/1.5)
Gasol - 3.2 (14.6/9.3/1.6)
[b]Atlantic[/b]
B. Lopez - 2.2 (18.8/8.6/1.7)
Lee - 7 (20.2/8.9/0.5)
Perkins - 4.2 (10.1/7.6/1.7)
Dalembert - 12 (8.1/9.6/1.8)
Bosh - 15.7 (24/10.8/1.0)
[b]Central[/b]
Noah 2.4 (10.7/11/1.6)
S. O'Neal - 20 (12/6.7/1.2)
B. Wallace - 1.3 (5.5/8.7/1.2)
Hibbert - 1.5 (11.7/5.7/1.6)
Bogut - 10 (15.9/10.2/2.5)
[b]Southeast[/b]
Horford - 4.3 (14.3/9.9/1.1)
Chandler - 11.8 (6.5/6.3/1.1)
J. O'Neal - 23 (13.6/6.9/1.4)
Howard - 15.2 (18.3/13.2/2.8)
McGee - 1.4 (6.4/4.1/1.7)
Looking at this list of contracts and stats from last season's starting centers then I come to the conclusion that Noah should be making about 8.5 per after you take out the rookie contracts and bad contracts. I also take from this list that the center position is just at a rebuilding stage, as there are a lot of broken down pieces but even more young beast centers replacing them in the near future.
[QUOTE=raptorfan_dr07]I agree with the Bulls fans in here. Compared to what other C's are getting paid and what Noah provides, this was a good deal for them. I suppose all you guys complaining are ok with players like Brendan Haywood, Andrew Bynum, Emeka Okafor, David Lee, getting paid in the $10-15 million range, but not Noah? Noah's better than all those guys. Especially with Boozer's latest injury, they're gonna need him big time. To the idiots who are crapping on the Bulls for not trading him for Melo, this is why they need Noah. Say they did trade him and Deng or whoever for Melo. Boozer goes down with this injury, and the Bulls are left with Taj Gibson, Omer Asik, and Kurt Thomas as the bigs. Not very reassuring. It's NOT about Melo, it's about what's more important to Chicago, and with an injury prone guy like Booze aboard, Noah's going to be extremely important.[/QUOTE]
Great post rap. We bulls fans need guys like you to help the idiots see the error of their way
[QUOTE=Pharcyde]And Noah is better then Camby.[/QUOTE]
Noah has'nt been better than Camby at any point in his career...
Considering Camby's age and the depth that Portland has at the Center position, Noah might have a better season this year though.
Camby and Noah are known for their defense, rebounding, shotblocking and hustle. Noah is younger and plays with more energy, but Camby is the better rebounder, shotblocker and defender.
Nice post by Blazersdozen. Repped.
Good comparison.. although listing rookie contracts might be deceiving. Some of these guys will get paid a lot more once their rookie contracts are up.
Noah got slightly overpaid IMO... good for him.
Not a terrible contract for the Bulls.
Am I the only person that thinks they overpaid? That's one thing that is bad about a player like Noah... he's a good player, but he's also a fan favorite so they have to pay him.
But yeah this is a pretty large contract. Not that anything points to this happening, but when you reward a young player who is driven by hunger with such a large extension they have the tendency to get lazy.
-Smak